[Jandek] Re: jandek Digest, Vol 59, Issue 51

[Patrick Borgen]

"That would have been a real red flag for parents of a depressed teenager:
withdrawn, socially awkward, owns 1000 sealed copies of an album called Blue
Corpse."

Yes.

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01 AM, <jandek-request at mylist.net> wrote:

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>   1. Corwood's 1000 Minimum Order (Jason Henn)
>   2. Re: Corwood's 1000 Minimum Order (Alex Koenig)
>   3. Re: Corwood's 1000 Minimum Order (GB)
>   4. Re: Corwood's 1000 Minimum Order (Jason Henn)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jason Henn <jason.henn at gmail.com>
> To: jandek at mylist.net
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 00:57:40 -0400
> Subject: [Jandek] Corwood's 1000 Minimum Order
> I just searched the archive and couldn't find any mention of this, so my
> apologies if this has already been covered. I just picked up an old radio
> station copy of Twelfth Apostle, and it still had the circa '93 Corwood
> discography inside, the oldest I've seen. I don't remember hearing about
> this crazy wholesale offer for the titles from Ready for the House through
> Blue Corpse--1000 copy minimum order, $2500. Does anyone on the list know
> someone who actually did that? Who would have possibly had the foresight to
> hoard that many copies of the early Jandek albums? Has anyone ever asked
> Corwood if they filled one of these orders? I assume that means that Corwood
> was out of individual copies at the time, but if you really, really wanted a
> copy of 739 through 753, you could pay to have an entire run re-pressed.
> Which prompts the question, if you ordered 1000 copies of Ready for the
> House in 1993, would that have forced Corwood to create an alternate back
> cover crediting the album to Jandek? Of all the time machine moments I've
> had as a record collector, this is probably the most intense retro-desire I
> have ever felt.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Alex Koenig <rabid_anti_dentite at sbcglobal.net>
> To: jandek board <jandek at mylist.net>
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 06:39:05 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Jandek] Corwood's 1000 Minimum Order
> Seeing those 1000 minimum order titles always made me laugh a bit. However,
> I'm inclined to believe that nobody ever took it upon themselves to place
> that kind of extreme order until Corwood reissued the titles on cd himself.
> However the recent vinyl reissue of Ready For the House does indeed credit
> the album to Jandek, so you could buy that and dream...
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jason Henn <jason.henn at gmail.com>
> *To:* jandek at mylist.net
> *Sent:* Thu, May 12, 2011 11:57:40 PM
> *Subject:* [Jandek] Corwood's 1000 Minimum Order
>
> I just searched the archive and couldn't find any mention of this, so my
> apologies if this has already been covered. I just picked up an old radio
> station copy of Twelfth Apostle, and it still had the circa '93 Corwood
> discography inside, the oldest I've seen. I don't remember hearing about
> this crazy wholesale offer for the titles from Ready for the House through
> Blue Corpse--1000 copy minimum order, $2500. Does anyone on the list know
> someone who actually did that? Who would have possibly had the foresight to
> hoard that many copies of the early Jandek albums? Has anyone ever asked
> Corwood if they filled one of these orders? I assume that means that Corwood
> was out of individual copies at the time, but if you really, really wanted a
> copy of 739 through 753, you could pay to have an entire run re-pressed.
> Which prompts the question, if you ordered 1000 copies of Ready for the
> House in 1993, would that have forced Corwood to create an alternate back
> cover crediting the album to Jandek? Of all the time machine moments I've
> had as a record collector, this is probably the most intense retro-desire I
> have ever felt.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: GB <nocontact at arkhonia.co.uk>
> To: Jason Henn <jason.henn at gmail.com>, jandek at mylist.net
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 14:32:21 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Jandek] Corwood's 1000 Minimum Order
> On 13/05/2011 05:57, Jason Henn wrote:
>
>  Who would have possibly had the foresight to hoard that many
>> copies of the early Jandek albums?
>>
>
> This is an interesting point - and maybe, *if* somebody had paid for a
> repress (that they therefore own outright), would they hoard them, or would
> they sell them or give them away? When I was buying up all the Jandek vinyl
> on ebay a good few years ago (I had some money at the time), certain albums
> seemed to turn up again and again, and go for low average prices (20GBP
> sometimes):  Somebody in The Snow, Lost Cause, Twelfth Apostle, the later
> vinyl; whereas early-to-mid albums went for much more (and I was beaten in
> various auctions cos prices got way too high), and seemed much less common.
> Which made me wonder whether there were more copies in circulation of these
> later releases.
>
> No way to really confirm this (popsike has archived sales listings with
> quite variable prices), pricing thing was a general observation at the time
> rather than any rule of thumb. My understanding (on the basis of accumulated
> Jandek lore) was that Ready For The House was 1000-copy pressing, and all
> the later albums were 300, but I have no immediate corroboration for this
> information.
>
> But, *if* repressed, and *if* the albums were recut rather than just
> manufactured from the same plates (two hypotheticals there, but a plausible
> supposition in the light of the CD rerelease revisions and variations), the
> hand-etched matrix number would have some differences...which, in this
> alternate timeline, would then mean trying to compare/collate runouts
> amongst owners of different copies of the same album...
>
> > Which prompts the question, if
>
>> you ordered 1000 copies of Ready for the House in 1993, would that have
>> forced
>> Corwood to create an alternate back cover crediting the album to Jandek?
>>
>
> I would say almost certainly - and as such a thing doesn't appear to exist,
> it's probably safe to assume that at least Ready For The House was not
> repressed under these terms. However, the copy I have was still
> shrinksealed, but *seemed* much 'newer' than later similarly-sealed
> purchases - different label font as well, thinner card, more flexible vinyl,
> very quiet cut, but presumably the same pressing plant due to the matrix ID
> with the LH- prefix (up to You Walk Alone, when it changed to AIH-, and
> except Twelfth Apostle, which was LIH-)...I've never seen or heard another
> copy up close to compare, but I took it on trust as an original because I
> assumed there was never a repress. Hmmm...
>
>  Of all
>> the time machine moments I've had as a record collector, this is probably
>> the
>> most intense retro-desire I have ever felt.
>>
>
> I'm glad someone else has time-travel record collector fantasies!
>
> Sorry for going on; thinking out loud.
>
> Gavin
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jason Henn <jason.henn at gmail.com>
> To: GB <nocontact at arkhonia.co.uk>
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 14:29:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Jandek] Corwood's 1000 Minimum Order
> Hey, Gavin,
>
> Thanks for responding in so much detail. I am really curious about your
> copy of Ready for the House. I've only seen two or three original copies in
> my life, and they all have heavy covers and the exact same printing and
> labels. I've also never thought to check matrix numbers for any of the
> Corwood albums, naturally assuming there was only one pressing of each. I'm
> going to check tonight--I have a copy of Ready for the House that I borrowed
> to make a digital transfer. Anyone else want to compare matrix numbers?
>
>
>> I'm glad someone else has time-travel record collector fantasies!
>
>
> Definitely! I've been thinking about this all day trying to imagine, even
> if I had heard of Jandek in 1993, what I would have done with 1000 Jandek
> albums, let alone how many paper routes I would have needed to pay for them.
> That would have been a real red flag for parents of a depressed teenager:
> withdrawn, socially awkward, owns 1000 sealed copies of an album called Blue
> Corpse.
>
> Jason
>
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