[Jandek] Re: jandek Digest, Vol 57, Issue 125

[Craig Stewart]

Oh, and if you have more than 22 minutes of multi-frequency music,
definitely use a DMM mastering process, as it eliminates one step in the
process of the lacquer to mother to plate to wax (I think). DMM = Direct To
Metal mastering, and Europadisk in the U.S. was the most-known here until
they went out of business. As far as I know Bob Weston in Chicago is the
only engineer in the states with a DMM cutter, and he's great and reasonably
priced. Another one is GZ Digital Media in the Czech Republic, who have been
around since right after WWII... they are very consistent and also
reasonable, even after freight. Don't deal with them directly, go through
Pirates Press in "Frisco, as they combine freight and make it cheaper. I was
amazed at the turnaround time.

RTI are good but overrated and snobs; if you order 300-only and have a
problem, they don't give a damn. This has happened to not just myself. And
don't ever spend $500 extra for 180gram vinyl! It does NOT matter how thick
vinyl is unless you're an idiot who leaves a disc in the sunlight and need
it be thick. Yeah it feels better in your hands but it's a waste, and it's
proven that weight matters not one bit once you're up to120 grams or so.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:03 AM, mike fey <srimad.bhagavatam at gmail.com>wrote:

> There's a La Monte Young LP (I think it was one of his) on the french
> Shandar label where each side was 40+ minutes long. And there's a number of
> Stochausen lp's on DG where each side comes very close to 30 minutes. You
> just need somebody spectacular to do the mastering (The people at RTI
> probably would do the best job). As far as mass market produced vinyl there
> was always Todd Rundgrens mid 70's Initiation LP which was 70+ minutes long
>
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>>   1. Re: Re: Put My Dream On This Planet as a vinyl release
>>      (Chris Robinson)
>>   2. Put My Dream On This Planet vinyl release (Colin Chantler)
>>   3. Re: Put My Dream On This Planet vinyl release (Mark Greenberg)
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Chris Robinson <hardeveningsuburb at gmail.com>
>> To: jandek at mylist.net
>> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:11:09 -0500
>> Subject: [Jandek] Re: Re: Put My Dream On This Planet as a vinyl release
>> I stand corrected.  I've simply never encountered a vinyl side that ran
>> 28+ minutes.
>>
>> The fact that Put My Dream On This Planet could work as a vinyl release
>> makes me very happy.  If it can be done, it should be done.  I'd love to see
>> all of the solo voice records available on vinyl.
>>
>> -Chris
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Colin Chantler <colin_chantler at hotmail.com>
>> To: <jandek at mylist.net>
>> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:36:29 +0000
>> Subject: [Jandek] Put My Dream On This Planet vinyl release
>> Hey, this is my first post on the Jandek list. It intrigued me, all this
>> talk about cutting up album tracks.
>>
>> You can stick 28+ minutes of music onto a vinyl LP at 33 and a 1/3. Side
>> three of Sonic Youth's "Goodbye 20th Century", is a performance of John
>> Cage's "Four6", and this tops out at half an hour. It CAN be done :)
>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Mark Greenberg <mark at mayfairrecordings.com>
>> To: Colin Chantler <colin_chantler at hotmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:40:23 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Jandek] Put My Dream On This Planet vinyl release
>>
>> You CAN make album sides that long but you will have to pay for it with
>> thinner grooves and an overall quieter record. It's the "Get Happy" rule.
>>
>>
>> From the Chicago Mastering Service website (
>> http://www.chicagomasteringservice.com/vinyl.html):
>>
>> "As a side gets longer, grooves must become thinner (i.e. quieter) to fit
>> on the side........ as you come down in level, you move toward the noise
>> floor of the medium and the pops and clicks usually present in a
>> manufactured record will be much louder relative to the music. "
>>
>>
>>  Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Colin Chantler wrote:
>>
>> Hey, this is my first post on the Jandek list. It intrigued me, all this
>> talk about cutting up album tracks.
>>
>> You can stick 28+ minutes of music onto a vinyl LP at 33 and a 1/3. Side
>> three of Sonic Youth's "Goodbye 20th Century", is a performance of John
>> Cage's "Four6", and this tops out at half an hour. It CAN be done :)
>>
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