[Jandek] Modern dances

[alex langer]

the singer of Give It A Name and Sadie sings on Hand for Harry Idle dont he? 
He might be drumming or playing the guitar on the LP. Eddie Might be on it 
too.

He sounds like a african-american blues singer. prob a busker Mr. Smith saw 
while why he was walking home from his Machinist job. Probably left a note 
in his guitar case with a 10 dollar bill with the adress and a note saying 
bring a guitar and amp.

hes the band i can think of not including live performers

Corwood Rep. - vocals, guitar, drums, bass, harmonica, etc
Nancy - Vocals, guitar/bass, drums(?)
Pat - Vocals, drums, guitar (?)
John - Base (sic)/drums (?)
John Doe - drums
Eddie - Vocals, guitar etc
Blues Singer - vocals, guitar ,drums
Mike - Vocals, percussion etc

from that letter to irwin whatshisname "(maye 12) other performers" maybe 
some other bass players?




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>    1. chords (cassettophone cassettophone)
>    2. Re: chords  (Seth Tisue)
>    3. Re: Eddie  (Seth Tisue)
>    4. Re: Eddie (Spencer Graham)
>    5. Re: chords (Spencer Graham)
>    6. RE: Eddie  (Allen Rendel)
>    7. Re: Eddie (Danen D. Jobe)
>    8. extra montreal ticket. (spizzletrunk)
>    9. LP era (Seth Tisue)



>From: cassettophone cassettophone <cassettophone at yahoo.ca>
>To: jandek at mylist.net
>Subject: [Jandek] chords
>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:05:19 -0700 (PDT)
>"I've been trying in vain to figure out the chords to the main riff in 
>"European Jewel". Does anyone on the list have a somewhat accurate 
>transcription?"
>
>I once had the idea to come up with a tablature/chords chart page for 
>musicians who want to play Jandek. I was flamed and ridiculed by this list 
>and never brought this sacrilegeous idea ever again.
>
>Anyway, it can be played quite easily. Email me offlist, I'll check it out 
>on my guitar tonight, and will post you the little chord sequence.
>
>Regards,
>the cassettophone dude
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>From: Seth Tisue <seth at tisue.net>
>To: jandek at mylist.net
>Subject: Re: [Jandek] chords Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:29:02 -0500
> >>>>> "cassettophone" == cassettophone cassettophone 
><cassettophone at yahoo.ca> writes:
>
>  cassettophone> I once had the idea to come up with a tablature/chords
>  cassettophone> chart page for musicians who want to play Jandek. I was
>  cassettophone> flamed and ridiculed by this list and never brought this
>  cassettophone> sacrilegeous idea ever again.
>
>I think it's a good idea.


>





>From: Seth Tisue <seth at tisue.net>
>To: jandek at mylist.net
>Subject: Re: [Jandek] Eddie Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:40:56 -0500
> >>>>> "Brad" == Brad B <jealousagain38 at gmail.com> writes:
>
>  Brad> I'm not sure how most people on the list believe when it comes to
>  Brad> the question of the amount of male singers on Blue Corpse/You
>  Brad> Walk Alone. I believed for a while that it was the same man from
>  Brad> the earlier albums changing his voice a bit, but on Blue Corpse,
>  Brad> during "CF", you can distinctly hear two men trading off
>  Brad> vocals. I'm guessing someone here's noticed it before. If so, do
>  Brad> you explain it as an overdubbing trick or as two different
>  Brad> singers?
>
>I regard this issue as settled.  "C F" ices it, but even if we didn't
>have that track, you can still tell it's two different singers.  With a
>little practice it's pretty easy to tell them apart.  He turns up on
>some of On the Way and Follow Your Footsteps as well.  (And "Sadie" from
>On the Way is sung by a third guy...)


>
>





>From: Spencer Graham <soccerdude219 at yahoo.com>
>To: Jandek <jandek at mylist.net>
>Subject: Re: [Jandek] Eddie
>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:05:19 -0700 (PDT)
>It's hard to tell, really. Jandek, like Bob Dylan, is capable of a few 
>different voices- there's the breathy thing from the early years that we've 
>seen he's still capable of producing (on albums like "The Cell"), the 
>deadpan "Telegraph Melts" weirdness, the screaming of "Interstellar 
>Discussion"- so it's quite possible the dude could just be doing a "bluesy" 
>voice. Then again, there's background laughter from what sounds like the 
>"Other Voice" on some tracks- "Long Way" for instance. For me, on "C F" 
>Jandek sounds almost like he's switching from one voice to the other- in 
>that light it's probably the worst argument in favor of the two voice 
>theory. But as the original disseminator (or at least one of them) of this 
>argument, I must stand behind it, and say that the man I call Eddie 
>definitely and even sings lead on some songs from Follow Your Footsteps 
>("Jaws of Murmur"), Blue Corpse ("I Passed By the Building", You Walk Alone 
>("I Know the Times"), and On the Way ("Ambient
>  Instrument", "I'll Sit Alone and Think a Lot About You").
>
>Brad B <jealousagain38 at gmail.com> wrote:  I'm not sure how most people on 
>the list believe when it comes to the question of the amount of male 
>singers on Blue Corpse/You Walk Alone. I believed for a while that it was 
>the same man from the earlier albums changing his voice a bit, but on Blue 
>Corpse, during "CF", you can distinctly hear two men trading off vocals. 
>I'm guessing someone here's noticed it before. If so, do you explain it as 
>an overdubbing trick or as two different singers?
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>From: Spencer Graham <soccerdude219 at yahoo.com>
>To: Jandek <jandek at mylist.net>
>Subject: Re: [Jandek] chords
>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:06:58 -0700 (PDT)
>Paul Condon tried to do that before, and figured out the tunings for the 
>first few albums, quite impressive...I know quite a few Jandek songs on 
>guitar, I can show them to anyone who cares.
>
>
>
>cassettophone cassettophone <cassettophone at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>             "I've been trying in vain to figure out the chords to the main 
>riff in "European Jewel". Does anyone on the list have a somewhat accurate 
>transcription?"
>
>   I once had the idea to come up with a tablature/chords chart page for 
>musicians who want to play Jandek. I was flamed and ridiculed by this list 
>and never brought this sacrilegeous idea ever again.
>
>   Anyway, it can be played quite easily. Email me offlist, I'll check it 
>out on my guitar tonight, and will post you the little chord sequence.
>
>   Regards,
>   the cassettophone dude
>
>
>
>
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>From: "Allen Rendel" <arendel at ripco.com>
>To: <jandek at mylist.net>
>Subject: RE: [Jandek] Eddie Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:18:20 -0500
>Which raises a whole other question - how does one go about wrangling an
>invitation to sing on a Jandek record?
>
>I supposed I could mail Corwood a CD with my acapella interpretation of
>Nancy Sings as an audition tape (that would assure that I NEVER get a 
>call).
>
>Maybe Jandek could host an Rockstar-styled reality show "America's Least
>Competent Musicians"?
>
>XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO
>Alien
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>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jandek-bounces at mylist.net [mailto:jandek-bounces at mylist.net]On
>Behalf Of Seth Tisue
>Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:41 AM
>To: jandek at mylist.net
>Subject: Re: [Jandek] Eddie
>
>
> >>>>> "Brad" == Brad B <jealousagain38 at gmail.com> writes:
>
>  Brad> I'm not sure how most people on the list believe when it comes to
>  Brad> the question of the amount of male singers on Blue Corpse/You
>  Brad> Walk Alone. I believed for a while that it was the same man from
>  Brad> the earlier albums changing his voice a bit, but on Blue Corpse,
>  Brad> during "CF", you can distinctly hear two men trading off
>  Brad> vocals. I'm guessing someone here's noticed it before. If so, do
>  Brad> you explain it as an overdubbing trick or as two different
>  Brad> singers?
>
>I regard this issue as settled.  "C F" ices it, but even if we didn't
>have that track, you can still tell it's two different singers.  With a
>little practice it's pretty easy to tell them apart.  He turns up on
>some of On the Way and Follow Your Footsteps as well.  (And "Sadie" from
>On the Way is sung by a third guy...)


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>From: "Danen D. Jobe" <djobe at uark.edu>
>To: jandek at mylist.net
>Subject: Re: [Jandek] Eddie
>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:58:03 -0500
>I've stated before that I think "Eddie" plays 12 string and shares vocals 
>on several "second band" albums. Don't know which ones exactly, (I'm pretty 
>sure it starts with "Footsteps" but not sure where it ends) but there's 
>definitely a second guy.  There's also at least one other person to play 
>the other stuff. Maybe this is the guy who sings "Sadie?" Not sure on that 
>one, but I would guess at least three, maybe four guys (plus, eventually, a 
>female vocalist who is clearly not "Nancy"). The "members" of the band seem 
>to fluctuate depending on the session.
>
>I think Corwood stopped overdubbing after a certain period of time. It's 
>been acknowledged that some of the earliest "band" work is overdubs, but he 
>seems to do away with that early on (perhaps after "Interstellar 
>Discussion?") Part of what I find appealing about Jandek is the "captured 
>moment" of the sessions - he doesn't "fix" anything. Hence, if there's a 
>second (or third, or fourth) instrument playing I believe that's somebody 
>else playing along. If it's only him, it's confined to him and whatever 
>he's playing (or not, in the case of the voice albums). Neil Young stopped 
>overdubbing  following his early albums - he may do 20 takes of a song, but 
>with rare exceptions he doesn't overdub or layer. The book "Shakey" has a 
>good description of why he does this, and I think this fits the Rep's MO.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Seth Tisue <seth at tisue.net>
>Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:42 am
>Subject: Re: [Jandek] Eddie
>To: jandek at mylist.net
>
> > >>>>> "Brad" == Brad B <jealousagain38 at gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > Brad> I'm not sure how most people on the list believe when it
> > comes to
> > Brad> the question of the amount of male singers on Blue Corpse/You
> > Brad> Walk Alone. I believed for a while that it was the same man
> > from Brad> the earlier albums changing his voice a bit, but on Blue
> > Corpse, Brad> during "CF", you can distinctly hear two men trading off
> > Brad> vocals. I'm guessing someone here's noticed it before. If
> > so, do
> > Brad> you explain it as an overdubbing trick or as two different
> > Brad> singers?
> >
> > I regard this issue as settled.  "C F" ices it, but even if we didn't
> > have that track, you can still tell it's two different singers.
> > With a
> > little practice it's pretty easy to tell them apart.  He turns up on
> > some of On the Way and Follow Your Footsteps as well.  (And "Sadie"
> > fromOn the Way is sung by a third guy...)
> >
> > --
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>From: "spizzletrunk" <spizzletrunk at mountaincable.net>
>To: <jandek at mylist.net>
>Subject: [Jandek] extra montreal ticket.
>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:42:49 -0400
>I have an extra ticket to the montreal show on june 24th at la salla rossa
>1484? st laurant street
>
>  (please double check the address).  I would give it away for twenty 
>dollars
>Canadian and I guess you could paypal me the money .  Actually please
>contact me qith questions first.  I don't know of the show is sold out or
>not but I live in Ontario fuck my spellloinbg so bear with me please so I
>orand the I could phone tem and tell the la sall aroossa staff that your
>name is now the name for the one tickdt.  Or you can give me the moneyt at
>the vebue and join me until we get  inside and then I leave you alone and
>vice versa. I  ordered by phone and the deal is they put you on a list that
>you flash id at the door - I did this for the Daniel Johnston show on may
>8th as I followed him around ontraio an the to thenmontreal show (I had so
>much fun).  I live in dunnville ontraio and I missed the jandek show in
>toronto due to pleasant  funeral arrangements and influence.  My wife
>=cannot attend this show due to other reasons and is bummed out at missing
>show however I am the "bigger" please don't choke me" fan?.  Liker enjoyer
>of the jandek tunings. She however understands the opportunity to have a 
>fun
>time with an interesting personality and does regret not being able to
>attend.  I don't know how to check me out and make sure I am not a stalker.
>I have abn ebay username of rennet with 100 feedback and a facebook profile
>of jeff Stanley.  All of my friends hate jandek or the music or whateber so
>I can't unload the ticket on them the stupid niave unappreciative.
>
>  Actually my good friends into jandek are in other places and actually 
>have
>alreDY SEEN him and a flight or drive to monreal is too pr!!!
>
>
>
>brown on the run small touchdown
>
>
>
>The endzone is my home.
>
>
>
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>From: Seth Tisue <seth at tisue.net>
>To: jandek at mylist.net
>Subject: [Jandek] LP era
>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:24:14 -0500
>
>* Female singers:
>
>In his review of Somebody on the Snow (Corwood 0757, 1990) Aaron
>Goldberg wrote, "I reckon it's Nancy recorded at a later period in
>time."  I think there's also been some skepticism on-list about there
>being two different woman singers, so I listened to that record again
>today (along with some Nancy stuff), and I'm still convinced it's not
>Nancy.  Listen to the first three songs.  Compared to Nancy, the singer
>has trouble sustaining notes very long or holding a steady pitch, and
>her voice is thinner.  Nancy's brassy and self-assured; this singer's a
>bit hesitant.  By way of comparison, play "Some of Your Peace" (from
>Foreign Keys, Corwood 0749, 1985).  At 2:14 Nancy sustains the word
>"glad" for 18 seconds (!) and stays on-pitch too.
>
>Admittedly the two singers sound similar, but there's a simple
>explanation for that: they're sisters.  It's Nancy's sister Pat.  While
>there's no song called "Pat Sings", Irwin Chusid's book quotes a letter
>from Corwood:
>
>   The cut "No Break" on side 2 features her sister Pat [last name
>   withheld] on vocals, myself on elec guitar and Nancy in a very
>   unaggressive drum stint.
>
>"No Break" is on Chair Beside a Window (Corwood 0742, 1982) -- it's the
>next cut after "Nancy Sings", so we were introduced to both sisters at
>the same time.  The letter doesn't actually confirm that it's Pat again
>on Somebody in the Snow, but my ears say it is.
>
>* Overdubbing:
>
>The letter also says:
>
>   Also cuts on entire sides of myself overdubbing base, 6 string, vocals
>   and drums all performed by myself...
>
>So there are at least some overdubbed one-man-band performances.
>Perhaps on The Rocks Crumble (Corwood 0783, 1983)?  Maybe he's referring
>instead, or referring also, to side 2 of Somebody in the Snow.  Listen
>to "Remind You".  It has the rep doing two separate vocals, one in the
>left channel, one in the right!  They even overlap in one place.  So
>there's no question that's overdubbed.  The whole album side sounds like
>one session and it sounds overdubbed.
>
>* Drums:
>
>We've talked a lot about vocalists and guitarists, but haven't talked
>much about trying to distinguish the different drummers.  If side 2 of
>Somebody in the Snow is all the rep overdubbed, then he's probably the
>drummer, and some close listening (that I haven't done yet) might help
>us learn to distinguish John-plays-drums from Sterling-plays-drums.
>
>I think we tend to forget that there are different drummers on the LP's
>and the rep is one of them, as the Chusid letter confirms, and as the
>rep's Instal 2005 appearance at the drumkit reminded us.  Also, if you
>listen to some of the later electric records, on some songs Eddie is
>both singing and doing all the guitar playing, for example on "I'll Sit
>Alone and Think a Lot About You" (from On the Way, Corwood 0755, 1988).
>If the rep is playing anything on those tracks, he's playing drums.
>
>* Electric guitar:
>
>Watching the representative on stage and listening to the live albums,
>it's sometimes a little hard to imagine, to really feel, that it's the
>same man who recorded Ready for the House.  I got that uncanny feeling
>at the hatless Glasgow Monday piano show, but at the others, not as
>much.  But over the past few days, I've been listening to the early
>electric records, most of them for the first time since 2003 or so, and
>I found it thrilling to listen to the electric guitar playing on
>Interstellar Discussion (Corwood 0747, 1984), for example, and hear just
>how close it is, how palpably the same musician, as the one we've heard
>live recently.  You don't feel it as vividly on Glasgow Sunday and
>Newcastle Sunday because of all the effects on the guitar on those early
>shows, and because the playing was a bit restrained.  But listen to some
>of the instrumental sections of some later cuts on Austin Sunday where
>the rep cuts loose on guitar... or better yet, listen to Brooklyn
>Wednesday when it comes out, or the recording from Manhattan this March
>when that comes out, and the sense of connection across the decades is
>really vivid.  (If the Brooklyn recording comes out anything like I
>remember the concert, it's going to be a knockout.)
>
>*
>
>Anyway, I think we've been over some of this before, but I hadn't
>updated the site to include it, so unless you've been on the mailing
>list for years, you might have missed it.  I've added much of the above
>to the site now.


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