[Jandek] Re: jandek Digest, Vol 59, Issue 88

draw draw at drawingsilence.com
Tue Sep 20 22:10:52 PDT 2011


If this is true has anyone asked him why?

On 6/09/2011 3:01 a.m., Danen Jobe wrote:
> For better or for worse, these CDs ARE what he wants to release. That's
> part of the point: the long silences between tracks that get longer with
> each re-issue (I once thought this, surely, was accidental), the parts
> of the songs cut off or added on, all of this is mastered professionally
> and he LIKES it. It's not being contentious or anything, just that we
> have to respect, that nothing which has been put out is accidental. It's
> all presented as Corwood wishes it to be presented, and has been
> professionally mastered and presented that way since at least 1981.
> Again, I think some of the tape noise/whatever it is shouldn't be taken
> as what he wants, but the unfortunate limitations of old tape that's
> deteriorated somewhat. But one thing I'm quite sure of is that what is
> out there is EXACTLY what he wants out there. I think people were noting
> the changes to him from the point that RFTH was re-issued (I remember
> that controversy well), but note that he insisted that Jackpot re-issue
> that and all vinyl from the CD masters, not the LP masters or from
> another vinyl. Basically, you have to get the original vinyl and make
> your own rip if you want that master, because he's never going to
> reissue it.
> Danen
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:48 PM, <phogwilde at aol.com
> <mailto:phogwilde at aol.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     Well, I'm certainly glad he's got everything up to par now, but it's
>     a real travesty about these CDs. Think someone should write Corwood
>     about it or something? I mean, I'm sure if he knew he was selling a
>     compromised product he'd do something about it. I know I would.
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Emil Macherzyński <emil.macherzynski at gmail.com
>     <mailto:emil.macherzynski at gmail.com>>
>     To: P <chairbesideawindow at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:chairbesideawindow at yahoo.com>>
>     Cc: jandek <jandek at mylist.net <mailto:jandek at mylist.net>>
>     Sent: Sun, Sep 4, 2011 8:14 am
>     Subject: Re: [Jandek] Re: jandek Digest, Vol 59, Issue 88
>
>     i think we learned not too long ago that jandek uses a professional
>     mastering engineer. or maybe he started after he pressed some cds
>     with said artefacts?
>
>     2011/9/4 P <chairbesideawindow at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:chairbesideawindow at yahoo.com>>
>
>         I have noticed digital artifacts in a lot of the cd reissues and
>         I have noticed it on blue corpse and a bunch of the acoustic
>         solo records, quite possibly could have been ripped from a
>         master analog tape than ripped to mp3 (in a low bitate)
>         than pressed from that low bit mp3....the rep at the time didn't
>         seem to know much about high tech recording or more
>         modern recording technology so its possible he didn't understand
>         the difference in bit rate before pressing those earlier
>         CD reissues.
>
>         regards
>         justin
>         www.myspace.com/iamesper <http://www.myspace.com/iamesper>
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>            1. Strange Mastering / Transcoding on "Blue Corpse" CD
>                (phogwilde at aol.com <mailto:phogwilde at aol.com>)
>         Hey Everyone,
>
>         I was listening to my "Blue Corpse" CD today, and I think
>         there's something wrong with the mastering, or maybe even the
>         master source that was used. I was noticing what I can best
>         describe as digital artifacts here and there, like the type that
>         get created when downgrading fidelity or transcoding MP3s (or
>         even just making, say, a 96k MP3). "Blue Corpse" is one of the
>         few Jandek releases that I had a vinyl copy of ("had" because I
>         had to sell it a while back to pay bills, which killed me to do
>         and still kills me to this day... wish I had that back). Before
>         I sold my vinyl copy, I made a digital copy of it so I could at
>         least listen to it. Comparing "Variant" from the CD and my
>         digital copy of the LP, you can clearly hear a fidelity
>         difference (I'm not talking about the Digital vs Analog
>         argument) and those digital artifacts/transcode noises/whatever
>         are not present at all on the LP audio. I'm almost wondering if
>         the CD was made from an MP3/compromised master.
>
>         Sorry... I know I'm rambling. Anyhow, did anyone who has
>         original vinyl copies of Jandek records notice anything like
>         this when comparing the CDs/LPs? I know there's been a lot of
>         discussion about the songs themselves (added/missing parts,
>         etc.), but I don't recall seeing anything about the actual
>         sound/mastering/whatever quality itself.
>
>         For the record, I don't know for sure which CD pressing I have,
>         but I think it's the 2005 one (back of the CD lists "One Minute"
>         as having a length of 1:15).
>
>         Any input on this would be greatly appreciated!
>
>         -Rob
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