[Jandek] Blue Icicles = First of a series of Dream albums?

Greg asleepandfalling at gmail.com
Thu Feb 4 08:43:32 PST 2010

And of course, I meant the Daze instead of the Glade. Clearly it was the
sleep deprivaiton talking.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Greg <asleepandfalling at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry that I have not gotten around to replying to this sooner. I have
> meant to for some time, but have been very busy. When listening to the Myth
> of Blue Icicles for the first time, I was very much struck by the Glade. It
> seems to have all of the qualities of a dream, but it's also something that
> seems almost menacing, or, at the very least, despairing. It instantly
> reminded me of I Knew You Would Leave on Six and Six, Interlude on Worthless
> Recluse (?), and even the Cell, simply because we have a character lost in
> himself. Though other people, presumably love interests, appear they don't
> seem nearly as real as the man himself. But it's late, and this may be the
> coffee talking.
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Danen Jobe <danen1970 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Been meaning to get with the list on this one, but it's been crazy busy in
>> my side of the world...anyway, if you like this you should pick up the other
>> three in what's becoming a "modern acoustic" phase - and I say modern
>> because these feel recorded now, almost beamed in directly after recording,
>> in fact. At the moment we have the debut of this phase, which you note
>> below, but that is then followed with "Skirting the Edge," "Not Hunting for
>> Meaning" and "What Was Out There Disappeared." Am I the only one to hear a
>> thematic connection between them? If you look at the titles of the last
>> three it does seem to say something...almost an address of his mental state,
>> but not simply the depressed side of that (which covered much of the last
>> acoustic phase), but rather the intangible, the dreamstate, that which is
>> reflected in the music.
>> This is, again, radically different from the LAST acoustic phase, though
>> it's tied in a bit thematically with the utterly wonderful London Tuesday
>> and even the "Khartoum" discs. But this is something else, and I do think
>> the last four (studio) acoustic albums should be connected in a similar
>> manner to the early phase, the middle phase (or "early CD era") and what has
>> been known as the late phase - but that term doesn't work anymore. We've
>> covered a lot of water under the proverbial bridge since then, after all. Do
>> we call these the "mature albums?" Ugh. No. But the Beckett comparisons are
>> back for me, the meta-sense of the artist aware of himself as an artist and
>> communicating it. That's what "London Tuesday" is all about, but here he's
>> not DIRECTLY addressing an audience in front of him, but rather a group of
>> unknowns, and to these people he's unwinding a long and hypnotic dream state
>> that concerns itself with romance (of course, Jandek is nothing if not a
>> romantic. Then again, so was Baudelaire...) and spirituality to a certain
>> extent, but maybe even more than that with the dream itself. Doesn't that
>> seem to sum up the title "What Was Out There Disappeared"? What else is a
>> dream save the intanglible, that thing you have for a fleeting moment but
>> which vanishes upon awakening. Perhaps you hang on to a single image, but
>> that's still a part of you, that dream, a piece of your psyche. Here, Jandek
>> is giving that to us, an exposed subconscious with all the trippy imagery
>> that goes with this, and yet it adds up to me to a reflection of life. And
>> what else is Jandek music, ever, save a reflection of one person's life?
>> Okay, I don't know if that rant made sense but I'm not going to edit it -
>> just thoughts. Point is, if you don't have these discs you should get them,
>> and listen to them in order. It makes an interesting trip.
>> Danen
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:33 AM, The Bear With The Thorn In His Side <
>> doesabearwoof at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Picked up Blue Icicles the other week, and finally got around to
>>> listening to it.  Maybe it's some kind of trompe l'oreille (trick the ear)
>>> thing, but I find myself noticing actual riffs and repeated things...
>>> Must post my sort of tribute to Jandek here soon (youtube clip,
>>> www.youtube.com/timmybear, 'Jandek Goes to Fremont, New Hampshire')
>>> "...men may become hairy as bears, if such is their fancy, without fear
>>> of excommunication or deprivation of their political rights." Charles Mackay
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