[Jandek] Jandek and AIDS

[Lauren Ciechanowski]

Or, maybe he's talking about a virus in the same way that some people say
'Augghg! I'm DYING' when they have a lot of shit to do, or are somewhat
depressed. Hyperbole, metaphor, but more than likely, not literally
illness. That's what's great about art; you can tell it like it isn't.

Lauren

> Obviously people are ultra sensitive to particular theories. I made no
> reference to his sexuality, though he mentions a virus as opposed to a
> disease, and AIDS would seem to be apocalyptic enough to fit into Jandek's
> bleak creative world..
>
> Then again, he might just have the flu, or maybe Herpes? Or HepC?
>
> But he explicitly speaks about a 'virus' despite many saying he had
> 'cancer', of which he's made no mention in his lyrics.
>
>
> On 11/15/06, jandek-request at mylist.net <jandek-request at mylist.net> wrote:
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>>   1. Re: arses (Bill Walje)
>>   2. does anyone know how to help me (Alimarea Vasquez)
>>   3. Does Jandek have AIDS? (Yuval Legendtofski)
>>   4. Re: How the music makes me feel (dan tennant)
>>   5. Re: Does Jandek have AIDS? (Lauren Ciechanowski)
>>   6. Re: Does Jandek have AIDS? (stacey graham)
>>   7. Re: Does Jandek have AIDS? (Matt Love)
>>   8. Re: Does Jandek have AIDS? (Jamie Morrison)
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Bill Walje" <demontwinkie at gmail.com>
>> To: jandek at mylist.net
>> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:22:21 -0800
>> Subject: [Jandek] Re: arses
>> Oh wow. And Butts for Jandek comes full-circle.
>>
>> That photobucket account is a friend of mine's. I believe I first
>> encountered Butts for Jandek in 04. Just my friend Justing, telling me
>> about
>> the project, and how it was blossoming on Soulseek. And now here it is
>> on
>> the Jandek board. Amazing.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Alimarea Vasquez" <beachdame125 at hotmail.com>
>> To: jandek at mylist.net
>> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 01:20:22 -0500
>> Subject: [Jandek] does anyone know how to help me
>> The email account I use is my ex boyfriends (we are on good terms, and
>> it
>> is
>> with his permission) but i just found out that his name appears when I
>> send
>> letters to people... is there a way around this... i really don't feel
>> like
>> making my own, I have kinda grown to like this one.
>>
>> also does anyone have a copy of Later On that they would be willing to
>> sell,
>> my nephew just broke mine in two with one of those paddles with the
>> rubber
>> ball on the end.
>>
>> someone please help me... I will pay.....
>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Yuval Legendtofski" <legendtofski at gmail.com>
>> To: jandek at mylist.net
>> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:11:57 +1100
>> Subject: [Jandek] Does Jandek have AIDS?
>> The stuff on Glasgow Monday the Cell sounds more like he's got a virus
>> than a cancer if you listen close.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "dan tennant" <dantennant at hotmail.com>
>> To: jandek at mylist.net, atlasvswann at googlemail.com
>> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:57:32 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [Jandek] How the music makes me feel
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd like to hear your music. Do you think you could send me a copy?
>> Maybe
>> we could do a swap? I thought about sending a CD to Corwood but I wasn't
>> sure if he'd appreciate the gift or not.
>>
>>
>>
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>> From:  *"D. Baquet" <atlasvswann at googlemail.com>*
>> To:  *"Jeff Grimshaw" <jgrimshaw at blast.net>*
>> CC:  *beachdame125 at hotmail.com, jandek list <jandek at mylist.net>*
>> Subject:  *Re: [Jandek] How the music makes me feel*
>> Date:  *Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:15:05 -0800*
>>
>> Ok, I'm new to this list, but it's as fucking weird as a Jandek record.
>> I
>> am enjoying it!  My husband said - in regards to listening to Jandek "in
>> the
>> bedroom" - was, "if I tried to listen to Jandek when we were 'doing it'
>> I'd
>> feel like Jandek was looking over my shoulder, I'd feel awkward."
>>
>>
>> Also, "wiggier" made me laugh out loud, thank you for that.
>>
>> ALL-so, we sent Jandek a copy of our music and we got a piece of that
>> infamous "thanks" Corwood handwriting, my dreams have come true!
>>
>>
>> Danielle,
>> California
>>
>> On 11/9/06, Jeff Grimshaw <jgrimshaw at blast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >     *Wow.* Many wiggy Jandek chicks have posted on the
>> Jandek list over the years, but surely none have posted anything wiggier
>> than
>> this. I hereby declare Alimarea Vasquez the official Queen of the Wiggy
>> Jandek
>> Chicks. And I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say how much I'm
>> looking forward to reading about you and your boyfriend on the cover of
>> the
>> World Weekly News. Say 'hi' to Bat Boy for us, Alimarea!
>>
>>
>>
>>  >From: "Alimarea Vasquez" <beachdame125 at hotmail.com
>> >
>> >Subject:
>> [Jandek] How the music makes me feel
>> >Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:05:51
>> -0500
>> >To: jandek at mylist.net
>> >
>> >Maybe I am the
>> only woman on the planet whose sex drive goes through the
>> >roof when I
>> hear the music, but to keep this clean since I got Austin
>>
>> >Sunday
>> >especially, me and my partner have played it in the
>> bedroom and it is
>> >surprisingly arousing. I have always used it to clean
>> the house or hang out
>> >and really listen, so I was shocked to find that
>> not only was I turned on,
>> >he was too. VERY STRANGE THINGS ARE AFOOT AT
>> THE CIRCLE K
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Jeff
>> jgrimshaw at blast.net
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Lauren Ciechanowski" <ciechano at stolaf.edu>
>> To: jandek at mylist.net
>> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:04:36 -0600 (CST)
>> Subject: Re: [Jandek] Does Jandek have AIDS?
>> Or it sounds like he's using metaphor and other literary devices to
>> describe emotions and events that he's just making up for the sake of
>> art.
>> He's an artist, not a biographer.
>>
>> ...do you really think he saw genitals when he looked outside?
>>
>> Lauren
>>
>> > The stuff on Glasgow Monday the Cell sounds more like he's got a virus
>> > than
>> > a cancer if you listen close.
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "stacey graham" <staceygraham at gmail.com>
>> To:
>> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:10:28 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [Jandek] Does Jandek have AIDS?
>>
>> > Lauren asked:  "...do you really think he saw genitals when he looked
>> > outside?"
>>
>>
>> Good one Lauren.  I wished I would see genitals when I look outside, it
>> would be more exciting than just the usual boring traffic going by!
>>
>> Jandek does have some lyrics that could be vaguely taken to mean that he
>> is at least sexually ambiguous (I remember one about standing at a sink
>> and
>> then getting real gay, or something like that...), but then again they
>> could
>> mean almost anything.
>>
>> Don't flame me please for associating gay with AIDS, it's just the first
>> thing I thought about with all this "virus" talk.  I know one doesn't
>> mean
>> the other.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Stacey Graham
>>
>> Minneapolis  MN  USA
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Matt Love" <matt.mattlove1 at gmail.com>
>> To: jandek at mylist.net
>> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:27:32 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [Jandek] Does Jandek have AIDS?
>> If he looks in on this list, he may have seen butts!
>>
>> On 11/14/06, Lauren Ciechanowski <ciechano at stolaf.edu> wrote:
>> > Or it sounds like he's using metaphor and other literary devices to
>> > describe emotions and events that he's just making up for the sake of
>> art.
>> > He's an artist, not a biographer.
>> >
>> > ...do you really think he saw genitals when he looked outside?
>> >
>> > Lauren
>> >
>> > > The stuff on Glasgow Monday the Cell sounds more like he's got a
>> virus
>> > > than
>> > > a cancer if you listen close.
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Jamie Morrison" <jamski at blueyonder.co.uk>
>> To: <jandek at mylist.net>
>> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:35:17 -0000
>> Subject: Re: [Jandek] Does Jandek have AIDS?
>> > Or it sounds like he's using metaphor and other literary devices to
>> > describe emotions and events that he's just making up for the sake of
>> art.
>> > He's an artist, not a biographer.
>> >
>> > ...do you really think he saw genitals when he looked outside?
>>
>> I like to think so.
>>
>> Jamie
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