[Jandek] Re: jandek Digest, Vol 54, Issue 123

[Yuval Legendtofski]

I think alot of Jandek fans were readers of the legendary fanzine FORCED
EXPOSURE, which prided itself on the weird, psychadelic and inspired
American underground music scene well before it got co-opted into the
post-modern-college-rock-Villgae-Voice pretentious twat set.

It's kinda hard to be a real eccentric these days, since everything is
available, and 'weirdness' has pretty good market value.

On 5/26/06, jandek-request at mylist.net <jandek-request at mylist.net> wrote:
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>   1. Jandek font (Donald Deeley)
>   2. RE: CHILL:re sterling (Allen Rendel)
>   3. What else is out there? (Jonathan Ruhe)
>   4. Re: Jandek font (Gregory Stanton)
>   5. Re: What else is out there? (stacey graham)
>   6. Re: Jandek font (Christopher Lupold)
>   7. Re: What else is out there? (Christopher tm)
>   8. RE: What else is out there? (Limbless Records)
>   9. Re: What else is out there? (eric)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Donald Deeley <dondeeley at yahoo.com>
> To: jandek at mylist.net
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 17:24:18 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [Jandek] Jandek font
> Hey,
> What is the font in the original Jandek on Corwood ad?
> http://tisue.net/jandek/discussion.html
> D-
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Allen Rendel" <arendel at ripco.com>
> To: "Vincent, Jonathan C" <jcvinc2 at email.uky.edu>, "Frank Hardy" <
> soccerdude219 at yahoo.com>, "Jandek" <jandek at mylist.net>
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 17:52:48 -0500
> Subject: RE: [Jandek] CHILL:re sterling
> Just don't call it "Butts for Sterling" or you'll be in REAL trouble.....
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jandek-bounces+arendel=ripco.com at mylist.net
> [mailto:jandek-bounces+arendel=ripco.com at mylist.net]On Behalf Of
> Vincent, Jonathan C
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 6:33 AM
> To: Frank Hardy; Jandek
> Subject: RE: [Jandek] CHILL:re sterling
>
>
> not to get off topic...(although i am not sure what the topic is and how
> anyone really feels on that very same unknown topic for sure? something
> about what to call someone when how many of us get to call this someone
> anything anyway?)
>
> but i was just noticing that this may well be the first substantive fight
> on
> the list since the whole butts for jandek project was introduced and then
> roundly mocked/praised...
>
> well at least that topic had pictures attached for the visually/spatially
> impaired...
>
> and lead into the whole jandek is or isn't a
> christian/religious/anti-butt/pro-ass/agnostic/email server...
>
> so well anyway... carry on with your liveliness ladies and gentleman.
>
> and any butts for jandek pictures can be sent care of me...
> i promise both to be faithful in the delivery of such to or away from
> whichever party we assume needs or doesn't need...
> oh i know here is one for ya...
> ever notice a certain someone uses a LOT of pro-NOUNS in his songs?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: jandek-bounces at mylist.net on behalf of Frank Hardy
> Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 12:37 PM
> To: Jandek
> Subject: Re: [Jandek] CHILL:re sterling
>
>
> Well, Chad, maybe if you started a really substantive musical discussion
> here instead of just yelling at the rest of us, we'd something to discuss
> other than this boring semantic drivel. Way to "see through the bullshit",
> man. You've really proven how "real" you are by writing in all caps and
> carrying on like some goddamn crackhead. What are we supposed to do on a
> Jandek mailing list aside from talk about Jandek? If you think his music
> and
> persona are so high and mighty that they can't be analyzed, then you get a
> another hobby, asshole.
>
> Keepin' it pretentious,
>
> F. Hardy
>
> P.S. Incidentally, I did write a term paper on Jandek.
>
> Chad Kelsey <chadkelsey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>        seriously, who gives a fuck
>        THERE IS NO MYSTIQUE or however the fuc you douches wanna term it.
>        IT'S NOT A TERM PAPER.
>        I HAVE TALKED TO STERLING SMITH AND HE HAS STATED THAT HE IS
> "JANDEK".
>        RELAX YOU FUCKERS-this is MUSIC.
>        NO SHIT, it's MUSIC!
>        .....
>        seriously, I love this guy's music
>        he's GREAT
>        why tear it apart?
>        WHY WHY WHY??????
>        find another hobby!
>        peace, C.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jonathan Ruhe <ruhetang at yahoo.com>
> To: jandek at mylist.net
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 16:03:25 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [Jandek] What else is out there?
> Right. If everyone's done hollering at each other over how we should
> address our hero, I've got a good, stimulating, non-whiny discussion topic
> for you listers.
>
> By the standards of most reasonable people, Jandek might just be the
> weirdest music ever. But we are Jandek fans, and do not have the standards
> of reasonable people. So my question to you is this: As people who find
> Jandek listenable and even enjoyable, do you find that there is still music
> out there that's too weird for even your tastes?
>
> For my own part, I still consider my Jandek recordings to be the most
> bizarre music in my collection, which is why I'm posing this question, to
> find fresh challenges for my ears.
>
> Jandek to me sounds like a musical expression of autism - alienated,
> repetitive, cataclysmically self-absorbed. Has the possibility that Jandek's
> got Asperger's syndrome or something been bandied about this list yet?
>
> -Johnny Depositor
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Gregory Stanton <gregory.stanton at sbcglobal.net>
> To: jandek at mylist.net
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 23:14:02 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Jandek] Jandek font
> It's Souvenir Light, I believe.
>
> Donald Deeley wrote:
> > Hey,
> > What is the font in the original Jandek on Corwood ad?
> > http://tisue.net/jandek/discussion.html
> > D-
> >
> > d.contextualized 91.3 WYEP Pittsburgh http://www.wyep.org/
> > http://d-contextualized.blogspot.com/
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "stacey graham" <staceygraham at gmail.com>
> To:
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 07:29:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Jandek] What else is out there?
>  "As people who find Jandek listenable and even enjoyable, do you find
> that there is still music  out there that's too weird for even your
> tastes?"
>
> It's just my personal opinion so don't flame me for it, but Toby
> Keith-style patriotic country music is just too weird for my tastes.
>
> --
> Stacey Graham
> http://aflowercallednowhere.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Christopher Lupold" <chrann at flash.net>
> To: <jandek at mylist.net>
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 09:15:03 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Jandek] Jandek font
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald Deeley" <dondeeley at yahoo.com>
> To: <jandek at mylist.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:24 PM
> Subject: [Jandek] Jandek font
>
>
> > Hey,
> > What is the font in the original Jandek on Corwood ad?
> > http://tisue.net/jandek/discussion.html
> > D-
> >
>
> I think it's ITC Souvenir Light:
>
> http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/itc-souvenir/
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Christopher tm" <xopher.tm at gmail.com>
> To: jandek at mylist.net
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 10:33:40 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Jandek] What else is out there?
> > As people who find
> > Jandek listenable and even enjoyable, do you find that there is still
> music
> > out there that's too weird for even your tastes?
>
> I listen to a lot of weird or "unlistenable" stuff for pleasure. I
> have, however, never gotten all the way through Songs for Swinging
> Larvae by Renaldo and the Loaf. It makes me uncomfortable.
>
> There is a great deal of stuff I just don't like, unlistenable or not.
> I'm not a fan of most "outsider" music at all (yes, I know many
> consider Jandek to be "outsider", but I do not.)
>
> --
> Christopher tm
>
> Gasoline fight!
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Limbless Records" <limblessrecords at hotmail.com>
> To: jandek at mylist.net
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 06:03:39 +0000
> Subject: RE: [Jandek] What else is out there?
> Personally speaking, Jandek is not the most difficult of the difficult
> listening that I own.
>
> I would say Harsh Noise or Sound Collage, or any 'noise music' in general
> really, might be offputting to many Jandek fans. As it has even less of a
> reference point with 'real music'.... Stuff like Masonna, Merzbow, Skin
> Crime, The Haters, Panicsville, AMK, Emil Beaulieau, Whitehouse, etc
> etc.....
>
> Although since noise fans are so already immersed in difficult listening,
> many are also Jandek fans.
>
> As an avid Residents fan, I think the album 'The Big Bubble' is more
> difficult than any Jandek recording I've heard. But on the other hand,
> most
> Residents albums are quite musical in their own skewed way.
>
>
> >From: Jonathan Ruhe <ruhetang at yahoo.com>
> >To: jandek at mylist.net
> >Subject: [Jandek] What else is out there?
> >Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 16:03:25 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Right. If everyone's done hollering at each other over how we should
> >address our hero, I've got a good, stimulating, non-whiny discussion
> topic
> >for you listers.
> >
> >   By the standards of most reasonable people, Jandek might just be the
> >weirdest music ever. But we are Jandek fans, and do not have the
> standards
> >of reasonable people. So my question to you is this: As people who find
> >Jandek listenable and even enjoyable, do you find that there is still
> music
> >out there that's too weird for even your tastes?
> >
> >   For my own part, I still consider my Jandek recordings to be the most
> >bizarre music in my collection, which is why I'm posing this question, to
> >find fresh challenges for my ears.
> >
> >   Jandek to me sounds like a musical expression of autism - alienated,
> >repetitive, cataclysmically self-absorbed. Has the possibility that
> >Jandek's got Asperger's syndrome or something been bandied about this
> list
> >yet?
> >
> >   -Johnny Depositor
> >
> >
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: eric <ericn613 at yahoo.com>
> To: jandek at mylist.net
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 07:23:47 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Jandek] What else is out there?
> Zitat von Jonathan Ruhe <ruhetang at yahoo.com>:
>
> >   By the standards of most reasonable people, Jandek might just be the
> > weirdest music ever. But we are Jandek fans, and do not have the
> standards of
> > reasonable people. So my question to you is this: As people who find
> Jandek
> > listenable and even enjoyable, do you find that there is still music out
> > there that's too weird for even your tastes?
>
> I still have a very difficult time trying to listen to the album "Freak
> Show" by
> the Residents. I just can't keep it on for very long without feeling like
> I'm
> going to go permanently insane. I'd rather listen to the Jandek a cappella
> albums on repeat for 24 hours straight than five minutes of "Freak Show".
>
> -e.
>
>
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