[Jandek] how big is the Corwood universe?
simon.greenwood at mac.com
Tue Aug 22 07:25:16 PDT 2006
CDs are a different process from LPs. The minimum run is 300-500, and
a thousand is more realistic. These days the discs are about 70p/$1 a
unit without packaging and a run of a thousand costs perhaps £150/
$200 more than a run of 500. I'm reasonably certain that Corwood
wouldn't have many spare from a thousand these days as a lot do go to
shops and online stores.
On 22 Aug 2006, at 03:05, Frank Hardy wrote:
> I don't remember where, but I understand that he made 1000 of RTFH
> and 300 of each subsequent record. I'm not sure if he still makes
> that many.
> Simon Greenwood <simon.greenwood at mac.com> wrote:
> That's correct - the mastering is a considerable part of the cost of
> the initial run, but how a pressing plant chooses to deliver is up to
> them. Loading up the master and a thousand blanks probably isn't that
> much more expensive than 500 or 300. However I know from experience
> that there is at least one company in the Czech Republic who have a
> minimum run of 300, although that in part is due to the small label
> market they've got in Europe. Your mileage may of course vary.
> Irrespective of that, Corwood is distributing at cost plus a bit for
> packaging, postage and handling, which they're willing to make the
> occasional loss on. I paid $7 each for half a dozen CDs in Mystery
> Train, so they are at least trying to keep prices low as well.
> On 18 Aug 2006, at 04:29, Allen Rendel wrote:
> > When my band had our CDs made the minimum run was 500 and we had to
> > hunt to
> > find a place that would do that. In the end, they ran 1000 and
> > sent us the
> > extra 500 for free with no cases. I suspect that it's a bit like
> > running a
> > printing press where once you get the machine fired up to run it
> > cranks out
> > 1000 before you can even turn it back off.
> > Allen Rendel
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jandek-bounces at mylist.net [mailto:jandek-bounces at mylist.net]On
> > Behalf Of Simon Greenwood
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:59 PM
> > To: stacey graham
> > Cc: jandek at mylist.net
> > Subject: Re: [Jandek] how big is the Corwood universe?
> > Irwin Chusid stated that Corwood had printed a thousand copies of
> > 'Ready for the House', and if you've seen a stack of a thousand LPs,
> > it takes up a fair bit of space, so he did 'have to move them'.
> > These days, I believe that the minimum viable order of a glass
> > mastered CD is 300, and I assume a DVD is the same. However, mail
> > order isn't the only market and there are plenty of record shops,
> > both physical and online, who carry the Corwood output - I bought
> > of mine in Mystery Train in Amherst MA.
> > So at a wild guess, the initial run of the last CDs and the reissues
> > is at least 1000. I don't know about the cost of a DVD but a minimum
> > of 500 would be believable.
> > Simon
> > On 17 Aug 2006, at 20:21, stacey graham wrote:
> >> Not that it matters at all, especially in this rarified and highly
> >> unusual case of artistic obscurity, but has anybody ever heard or
> >> read
> >> or even been able to extrapolate how many copies of his releases
> >> Jandek sells? I have heard some ridiculously low number of the
> >> original LP pressings, but that was from a long time and a
> >> universe (pre-internet) ago.
> >> It's hard to wrap one's head around such an unquantifiable
> number. I
> >> hope he has seen (or more probably) is now seeing some financial
> >> reward for the little corner of the universe that he has claimed as
> >> his own.
> >> P.S. If there are any Minneapolis/St. Paul area free jazz fans, the
> >> seldom-seen documentary "My Name Is Albert Ayler" is playing
> >> 8/19 at the Riverview Theater as part of the Sound Unseen festival.
> >> --
> >> Stacey Graham
> >> Minneapolis MN USA
> >> http://aflowercallednowhere.blogspot.com
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