Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28427 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:54:19 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03IsJC21787 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:54:19 -0600 Received: (qmail 11683 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2002 16:35:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 31 Dec 2002 16:35:02 -0000 Received: from web10807.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.130.249]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:33:04 -0600 Message-ID: <20021231163304.40695.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.184.13.132] by web10807.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 08:33:04 PST Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 08:33:04 -0800 (PST) From: Danen Subject: Re: Jandek site To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20021227035529.84492.qmail@web41406.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2002 16:33:04.0723 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B04B230:01C2B0EA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Daniel Marks wrote: > > > Because a new fan will most likely come to Seth's > site > first, he is likely to be influenced by opinions of > its author. This is evidenced by the exchange of > emails a while ago regarding the different players > on > European Jewel, while the site said that the first > recording with a different player was "John Plays > Drums". The question was, why does everyone say that > "JPD" is the first appearence of an outside > instrumentalist? The tounge-in-cheek answer: because > the site says so! I think you're shorting Jandek fans some, Daniel. The reason I keep on this list (though unfortunately life has kept me from commenting more often like I used to) is the overall intelligence of the people commenting. We have real DEBATES here, the kind a standard fan-boy list doesn't have. My point? People come to Jandek knowing the mystery, and wanting, in some way, to SOLVE the mystery. But when one is new to Jandek, you want someplace to start, and I think Seth has given that to people. Between Seth and Chusid (and the documentary coming soon), people can get a primer on this shadowy figure, then if they join the list they'll get other sides of the story. Obviously, Seth's opinion hasn't changed yours, and I bet you've caused Seth to think a time or two. A real fan, after receiving info, will throw out some theories and probably invent others. Maybe Blue Corpse is a throwaway that means little to the author? Maybe it's a personal statement about a breakup with Nancy? Who knows? Point is, anybody that sticks around after listening to "Living in a Moon so Blue" isn't going to patly accept things like your standard Ryan Adams fan. (yes, I know that's a BIG generalization, but you gotta point the finger somewhere, and NSYNC are overused) In conclusion: What Seth offers is a place to start. What we do on the list is stretch that out and delve further. Nobody gets offended (often) that not everyone agrees, and the worst thing (let's face it) that could happen to any of us is for Jandek to come out and tell us the whole story. I pray he never does.Meantime, newbies can get up to speed on Seth's site. If you want to put up your opinions, start your own. Seth clearly doesn't have time to list all the differences we all have! I applaud him his devotion. but Chusid's book now confirms there were > different players on European Jewel (it being the > only > song featuring a bass in the early period---although > i > could be wrong about that!). Ever heard of the fiction term "untrustworthy narrator?" Who knows the validity of those early letters? Remember, this is a man who BADLY wanted to make an image. Maybe he told the truth. Maybe he didn't. We don't really know, do we? We DO know that Nancy is not Jandek (obviously), and that "John plays Drums" has a new person, but maybe John is Jandek's alter-ego and he wanted to throw people. Or maybe (as I theorized some three years ago) Jandek is an "Anonymous Collective" group name and people come and go frequently, with Sterling being the only constant. Don't even know if I buy that theory anymore. Point is, Chusid and Seth might be closer to the truth, but maybe not. I take no one's word for God. "Follow the music," damn straight. Opinions on the new album, anyone? Danen __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28426 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:53:32 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03IrV221757 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:53:31 -0600 Received: (qmail 32082 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2002 19:45:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Dec 2002 19:45:10 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 28 Dec 2002 13:38:38 -0600 Received: (qmail 13445 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2002 19:38:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by 205-158-62-139.outblaze.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2002 19:38:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 41993 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2002 19:38:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.59) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2002 19:38:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 54343 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Dec 2002 19:38:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20021228193831.54342.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:38:31 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:38:31 -0500 Subject: hooray for ebay X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2002 19:38:38.0497 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8068910:01C2AEA8] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I just got my mint sealed copy of "One Foot In The North" in the mail. Paid $27.00 dollars for it through ebay. I'm debating on whether to open it up and put it on the turn table or not. I also just paid $16.00 to a small online store called Last Vestige Record Shop for a mint sealed copy of "Twelfth Apostle". -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28428 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:54:29 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03IsSJ21813 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:54:28 -0600 Received: (qmail 16474 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2002 19:00:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 31 Dec 2002 19:00:56 -0000 Received: from navgate2.boston.k12.ma.us ([204.57.47.3] unverified) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:51:52 -0600 Received: from mail01.admin.mybps.org ([192.168.252.80]) by navgate2.boston.k12.ma.us (SAVSMTP 3.0.0.44) with SMTP id M2002123113533515499 ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:53:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:51:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200212311351.AA431489308@mail01.admin.mybps.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Warren, Andrew" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: CC: "joshua david mann" Subject: Jandek Orgy on 95.3 WHRB X-Mailer: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2002 18:51:52.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEA81260:01C2B0FD] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Greetings Jandek fans! I wanted to inform you of an upcoming Jandek Orgy on WHRB 95.3, the Harvard radio station. The orgy will run January 20th, 21st, 22nd: 10pm-6am. We will be playing all of Jandek's LPs and CDs during this time. We are also attempting to secure a couple of relevant interviews, and any info about the upcoming Jandek documentary would be most appreciated... For more info about WHRB, or to listen online, go to whrb.org Happy new year! Andrew Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31767 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 20:11:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 20:11:19 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:10:34 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03KAXL24549 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:10:33 -0600 Received: (qmail 30939 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 19:47:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 19:47:18 -0000 Received: from web41409.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.75]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:45:25 -0600 Message-ID: <20030103194524.44118.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.172.240] by web41409.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:45:24 PST Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:45:24 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Jandek site To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20021231163304.40695.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2003 19:45:25.0084 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8D949C0:01C2B360] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I agree with you, fully. Seth's site is exactly that: a great place to start. I didn't mean to undermine its greatness in any way with my comments, just to make some suggestions. As for making my own site---- well I'm going to do just that. Why should there be just one? So stay tuned all of you for Daniel Marks' Corwood Industries Page, eventually finding a home at: http://www.geocities.com/alfredggnome/jandek.html It'll have reviews of the albums I consider to be his best, and essays about Jandek, going over the same themes i've gone over here (the "eddie" theory, the three periods, the end of the music, ect.), a scan of the catalog, and various other snippets. I'm not trying to beat seth (that'd be beyond my ability), just bringing new opinions beyond this mailing list, and hopefully creating an alternative starting point for new listeners, or at least an agumentation. wow, that last sentence was a run-on. "I couldn't be a reader/I had to write the words" D.M. --- Danen wrote: > > --- Daniel Marks wrote: > > > > > > > Because a new fan will most likely come to Seth's > > site > > first, he is likely to be influenced by opinions > of > > its author. This is evidenced by the exchange of > > emails a while ago regarding the different players > > on > > European Jewel, while the site said that the first > > recording with a different player was "John Plays > > Drums". The question was, why does everyone say > that > > "JPD" is the first appearence of an outside > > instrumentalist? The tounge-in-cheek answer: > because > > the site says so! > > I think you're shorting Jandek fans some, Daniel. > The > reason I keep on this list (though unfortunately > life > has kept me from commenting more often like I used > to) > is the overall intelligence of the people > commenting. > We have real DEBATES here, the kind a standard > fan-boy > list doesn't have. My point? People come to Jandek > knowing the mystery, and wanting, in some way, to > SOLVE the mystery. But when one is new to Jandek, > you > want someplace to start, and I think Seth has given > that to people. Between Seth and Chusid (and the > documentary coming soon), people can get a primer on > this shadowy figure, then if they join the list > they'll get other sides of the story. Obviously, > Seth's opinion hasn't changed yours, and I bet > you've > caused Seth to think a time or two. A real fan, > after > receiving info, will throw out some theories and > probably invent others. Maybe Blue Corpse is a > throwaway that means little to the author? Maybe > it's > a personal statement about a breakup with Nancy? > Who > knows? Point is, anybody that sticks around after > listening to "Living in a Moon so Blue" isn't going > to > patly accept things like your standard Ryan Adams > fan. > (yes, I know that's a BIG generalization, but you > gotta point the finger somewhere, and NSYNC are > overused) > > In conclusion: What Seth offers is a place to start. > What we do on the list is stretch that out and delve > further. Nobody gets offended (often) that not > everyone agrees, and the worst thing (let's face it) > that could happen to any of us is for Jandek to come > out and tell us the whole story. I pray he never > does.Meantime, newbies can get up to speed on Seth's > site. If you want to put up your opinions, start > your > own. Seth clearly doesn't have time to list all the > differences we all have! I applaud him his devotion. > > > but Chusid's book now confirms there were > > different players on European Jewel (it being the > > only > > song featuring a bass in the early > period---although > > i > > could be wrong about that!). > > Ever heard of the fiction term "untrustworthy > narrator?" Who knows the validity of those early > letters? Remember, this is a man who BADLY wanted to > make an image. Maybe he told the truth. Maybe he > didn't. We don't really know, do we? We DO know that > Nancy is not Jandek (obviously), and that "John > plays > Drums" has a new person, but maybe John is Jandek's > alter-ego and he wanted to throw people. Or maybe > (as > I theorized some three years ago) Jandek is an > "Anonymous Collective" group name and people come > and > go frequently, with Sterling being the only > constant. > Don't even know if I buy that theory anymore. Point > is, Chusid and Seth might be closer to the truth, > but > maybe not. I take no one's word for God. "Follow the > music," damn straight. > > Opinions on the new album, anyone? > > Danen > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 2787 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 21:58:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 21:58:43 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:51:59 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03Lpx026307 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:51:59 -0600 Received: (qmail 2297 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 21:46:31 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 21:46:31 -0000 Received: from web13310.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.222]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:46:10 -0600 Message-ID: <20030103214609.5968.qmail@web13310.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.126.199.89] by web13310.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:46:09 PST Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:46:09 -0800 (PST) From: Bradley Be Subject: Re: Jandek site / names To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030103194524.44118.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2003 21:46:10.0631 (UTC) FILETIME=[87880570:01C2B371] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Daniel Marks wrote: ...As for making my own site---- well > I'm going to do just that. I am also happy to provide various non-intrusive Jandek minutiae, including an updated scan of the Corwood Industries discography: http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee/corwood.jpg Seth's site also mentions a Hungarian reference to "ajandek." An artist with a somewhat similar name, Jarboe, is often the victim of bad name pronounciation. Her name, pronounced "ZHAR-BOW," is often mis-pronounced with a hard "J" sound as "JAR-BOW." Are we actually American-izing pronounciation of Jandek's name? Should it be pronounced with a soft "J" sound as "ZHAN-DECK" ??? "YAN-DEK" ??? Would any linguistics experts on the list care to comment? ===== http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7221 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 23:55:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 23:55:45 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:55:23 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03NtNU28553 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:55:23 -0600 Received: (qmail 7085 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 23:51:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 23:51:44 -0000 Received: from web41413.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.79]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:51:20 -0600 Message-ID: <20030103235120.43828.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.172.240] by web41413.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 15:51:20 PST Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:51:20 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Jandek site / names To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030103214609.5968.qmail@web13310.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2003 23:51:20.0849 (UTC) FILETIME=[03F85810:01C2B383] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk hey! On the Way, The Living End, and Somebody in the Snow have all been reissued! Awesome! no one mentioned that. I guess Ian kasley has to take the rest of the real audio files down. not that the server was ever friendly. 4 CDs in four months..... like he's in a rush to get it all out. Wierd.----as for the pronuciation, I know our friends in the UK pronounce it "Jon-dek", and one reviewer from there posed the question of whether his real name was "John". Funny, accents. the jandek orgy sounds awesome. i wish i could tape it all.... i'm lucky i live close enough to hear harvard's radio station-- at least i think. D.M. > I am also happy to provide various non-intrusive > Jandek minutiae, including an updated scan of the > Corwood Industries discography: > > http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee/corwood.jpg > > Seth's site also mentions a Hungarian reference to > "ajandek." An artist with a somewhat similar name, > Jarboe, is often the victim of bad name > pronounciation. Her name, pronounced "ZHAR-BOW," is > often mis-pronounced with a hard "J" sound as > "JAR-BOW." > > Are we actually American-izing pronounciation of > Jandek's name? Should it be pronounced with a soft > "J" sound as "ZHAN-DECK" ??? "YAN-DEK" ??? Would > any linguistics experts on the list care to comment? > > > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 10217 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 01:39:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 01:39:43 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:34:38 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h041Ybc29419 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:34:37 -0600 Received: (qmail 9239 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 00:59:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 00:59:44 -0000 Received: from web13307.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.175.43]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:50:39 -0600 Message-ID: <20030104005039.13657.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.126.199.89] by web13307.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:50:39 PST Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:50:39 -0800 (PST) From: Bradley Be Subject: Re: Jandek site / names To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030103235120.43828.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2003 00:50:40.0045 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D6A8DD0:01C2B38B] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Daniel Marks wrote: > hey! On the Way, The Living End, and Somebody in the > Snow have all been reissued! Awesome! no one > mentioned > that. Oh shit! I guess they have been re-released. I was so excited about ordering the new one that I didn't check for more re-releases :) ===== http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 781 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 16:01:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 16:01:52 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:52:27 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h04FqQb01869 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:52:26 -0600 Received: (qmail 20574 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 08:02:51 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 08:02:51 -0000 Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.164]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:54:03 -0600 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.71.2b4e7e92 (30950) for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 02:53:56 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: <71.2b4e7e92.2b47ed14@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 02:53:56 EST Subject: Re: Jandek site / names To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2003 07:54:03.0320 (UTC) FILETIME=[72F2B380:01C2B3C6] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I have seen the surname "Yandek" (or maybe "Yandeck") before, for what it's worth... How about an h sound, like Jose? In a message dated 1/3/03 4:59:02 PM, bradleybee@yahoo.com writes: << Are we actually American-izing pronounciation of Jandek's name? Should it be pronounced with a soft "J" sound as "ZHAN-DECK" ??? "YAN-DEK" ??? Would any linguistics experts on the list care to comment? >> Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 8567 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 21:11:03 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 21:11:03 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:10:25 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h04LAP614340 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:10:25 -0600 Received: (qmail 8368 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 21:05:03 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 21:05:03 -0000 Received: from web12004.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.172.212]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:04:31 -0600 Message-ID: <20030104210430.49925.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.54.37.154] by web12004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:04:30 PST Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:04:30 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Cooley Subject: Re: Jandek site / names To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <71.2b4e7e92.2b47ed14@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2003 21:04:31.0423 (UTC) FILETIME=[E04CE4F0:01C2B434] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Is Byron Coley or Irwin Chusid listening? I'll bet they know the 'official' pronunciation. Maybe those guys doing the documentary do, too. > In a message dated 1/3/03 4:59:02 PM, > bradleybee@yahoo.com writes: > > << Are we actually American-izing pronounciation of > Jandek's name? Should it be pronounced with a soft > "J" sound as "ZHAN-DECK" ??? "YAN-DEK" ??? Would > any linguistics experts on the list care to comment? >> __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9831 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 16:34:57 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 16:34:57 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 10:32:16 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h05GWGL28431 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 10:32:16 -0600 Received: (qmail 5145 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 12:50:57 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 12:50:57 -0000 Received: from janus.hosting4u.net ([209.15.2.91]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 06:44:19 -0600 Received: (qmail 27040 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 12:44:19 -0000 Received: from leo.hosting4u.net (HELO waferbaby.com) (209.15.2.51) by mail-gate.hosting4u.net with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 12:44:19 -0000 Received: from john ([24.94.50.69]) by waferbaby.com ; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 06:44:17 -0600 From: "Benjamin Redder" To: "'Jason Cooley'" , Subject: RE: Jandek site / names Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 07:41:46 -0500 Message-ID: <008001c2b4b7$d50b5620$0d02a8c0@WorkGroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <20030104210430.49925.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2003 12:44:19.0819 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A674BB0:01C2B4B8] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I think the real pronunciation of his (or her) name is just all part of the mystery. We're not ever supposed to find out, that's why he (or she) picked a name that is so hard to pronounce. Benjamin. -----Original Message----- From: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu [mailto:owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Jason Cooley Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 4:05 PM To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek site / names Is Byron Coley or Irwin Chusid listening? I'll bet they know the 'official' pronunciation. Maybe those guys doing the documentary do, too. > In a message dated 1/3/03 4:59:02 PM, > bradleybee@yahoo.com writes: > > << Are we actually American-izing pronounciation of > Jandek's name? Should it be pronounced with a soft > "J" sound as "ZHAN-DECK" ??? "YAN-DEK" ??? Would > any linguistics experts on the list care to comment? >> __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15239 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 20:32:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 20:32:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:22:32 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h05KMVK29875 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:22:31 -0600 Received: (qmail 12445 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 18:17:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 18:17:56 -0000 Received: from logger.o2.pl ([212.126.20.38]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:11:56 -0600 Received: from rekin.go2.pl (rekin.go2.pl [212.126.20.3]) by logger.o2.pl (Mailer_v2.01) with ESMTP id 5D7B61C40F8; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:11:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by rekin.go2.pl (Mailer_v2.01, from userid 99) id F36C6BFB6; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:11:38 +0100 (CET) To: Benjamin Redder Cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: "LUTY" Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:11:38 Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:=20RE:=20Jandek=20site=20/=20names?= Reply-To: luty10@o2.pl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: first3.pl WebMailv2.02. Usluga Poczty Elektronicznej dla o2.pl X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Originator: 62.21.19.229 Message-Id: <20030105181138.F36C6BFB6@rekin.go2.pl> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2003 18:11:56.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[EEC20B80:01C2B4E5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk In Poland when you make a diminutive form of a male name,you always add an -ek in the end.We have some names which resemble jandek like: janek,jacek,jędrek so I always pronounce the name Jandek like "Yandek" because it sounds very polish and natural for me. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15240 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 20:32:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 20:32:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:22:36 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h05KMZQ29901 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:22:35 -0600 Received: (qmail 13938 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 19:30:59 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 19:30:59 -0000 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:29:59 -0600 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.bf.2c3a7c9a (4410) for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:29:43 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:29:43 EST Subject: A seller's market for Jandek? To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2003 19:29:59.0242 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5D482A0:01C2B4F0] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Yesterday, I was looking through the Jandek section at my local Newbury Comics (yes, they really have a Jandek section). I noticed that while most of the cds were priced to move at $7.99, the new one had an import sticker and was marked $13.99! Either this was a mistake or it contains some bonus remixes that I am not aware of. Hmm. Even stranger, bidding on the Jandek tribute cd has reached $15.75 (plus shipping!) on ebay, with 3 days left to go... Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16400 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 20:54:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 20:54:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:53:20 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h05KrKI30242 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:53:20 -0600 Received: (qmail 16011 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 20:35:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 20:35:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:34:12 -0600 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h05KYCe29990 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:34:12 -0600 Message-Id: <200301052034.h05KYCe29990@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Seth Tisue Subject: Site update X-Mailer: MH-E 7.0; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.2 Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 14:34:12 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2003 20:34:12.0842 (UTC) FILETIME=[CEC134A0:01C2B4F9] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk (I don't think any of this is new info if you've been reading the mailing list for a while, but for those joining us more recently:) Added link to interview (in "Indie Death" zine) with Paul Fehler and Chad Freidrichs about their forthcoming Jandek documentary (http://www.fehlerconsulting.com/paul/interview/interview.html). Added notice about WHRB's upcoming Jandek "orgy" (coming this Jan 20-22) to main page, with link to entry on press page with more info. Added scan of the city of Houston's official proclamation of November 5, 2002 as "Jandek day" (see http://tisue.net/jandek/press.html, first thing under "Also"). Added complete lyrics for "This Narrow Road" (thank you Joe Henry!). == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24261 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2003 02:31:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2003 02:31:13 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:23:36 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h062NZn31869 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:23:35 -0600 Received: (qmail 17901 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 21:42:04 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 21:42:04 -0000 Received: from wspf1.us4.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.146]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 15:41:03 -0600 Received: (qmail 26316 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 02:43:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by 205-158-62-146.outblaze.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2003 02:43:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 9289 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 21:40:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-11.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.80) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 21:40:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 12058 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Jan 2003 21:40:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20030105214032.12057.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-11.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 16:40:32 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 16:40:32 -0500 Subject: defense of the spoken word trilogy X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-11.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2003 21:41:03.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[25743FA0:01C2B503] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I've noticed that there's been a lot of criticism of the three spoken word albums since their release. Most seems look at them either as creepy or laughable. I find these releases to be amazing documents of a man's soul painfully laid out in front of him, and that they probably will serve as the climax to Jandek's career. Maybe some find it too personal, that it ruins the "mystique" of Jandek. This is an odd criticism, for I find that after listening to most music I am starved for anything remotely personal. Many describe these albums as if Jandek was rambling to himself on a park bench, but the poetry in This Narrow Road and Worthless Recluse is beatifully structured and holds some strikingly original imagery. So I guess I'm looking for others to back me up in my support of these works, or explain their grievances with them in greater detail. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 27044 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2003 04:17:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2003 04:17:15 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:11:50 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h064Bnr32421 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:11:49 -0600 Received: (qmail 25921 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2003 03:29:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2003 03:29:14 -0000 Received: from web41414.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.80]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:20:33 -0600 Message-ID: <20030106032033.80537.qmail@web41414.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.175.11] by web41414.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 19:20:33 PST Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:20:33 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: defense of the spoken word trilogy To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030105214032.12057.qmail@mail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2003 03:20:33.0405 (UTC) FILETIME=[92B3E2D0:01C2B532] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Well, i have listened to bits of all the "trilogy" albums, and i have included "The Clothes" and "Since I Went Outside" on my two Jandek mix CDs, because i like the imagery, as you Joe mentioned. I also downloaded "Worthless Recluse", but i haven't had the guts to listen to it all the way through. As Seth said, they're hard to take even for us fans. I particularly like that quote from the site, "I haven't dared to listen to it again." It suggests fear for jandek and oneself, a driving idea behind the "Trilogy". I think his purpose in making those three records was to tell us a little about himself in a way that would be most advantageous to him. If anyone wants to know about Sterling Smith the man, don't try public records, try Listening to "Worthless Recluse" a couple times, or at least reading the lyrics to all three albums, now on the site. I have thought it would be humourous to sample pieces of it into a mock interview, me asking questions, and his ramblings as answers. There are enough details to make it seem real: Daniel Marks: so when did you start recording? Sterling Smith: Tell me all you got DM: no, i'm interviewing you SS: I've got to be doing something wrong DM: don't take it too hard... now when did you start recording? SS: Countless days in times of woe DM: i see, now what year would these times of woe be? SS: Oooooh, the years, and the time These memories that keep me going DM: Um... i see. what sort of memories? SS: I remember being alive In the cold northern cities I didn't need to think if I were interested Eight-thirty wasn't too late DM: Um...... and it would go something like that.... (note all the answers are real lyrics from the Trilogy) D.M. --- Joe Henry wrote: > I've noticed that there's been a lot of criticism of > the three spoken word albums since their release. > Most seems look at them either as creepy or > laughable. I find these releases to be amazing > documents of a man's soul painfully laid out in > front of him, and that they probably will serve as > the climax to Jandek's career. > Maybe some find it too personal, that it ruins the > "mystique" of Jandek. This is an odd criticism, for > I find that after listening to most music I am > starved for anything remotely personal. > Many describe these albums as if Jandek was rambling > to himself on a park bench, but the poetry in This > Narrow Road and Worthless Recluse is beatifully > structured and holds some strikingly original > imagery. > So I guess I'm looking for others to back me up in > my support of these works, or explain their > grievances with them in greater detail. > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at > Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > Meet Singles > http://corp.mail.com/lavalife __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 27268 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2003 20:04:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2003 20:04:40 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:04:16 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h06K4FP07678 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:04:15 -0600 Received: (qmail 25337 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2003 19:03:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2003 19:03:38 -0000 Received: from facstaff.wesleyan.edu ([129.133.1.61]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:57:43 -0600 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by facstaff.wesleyan.edu (8.11.2/8.10.2) id h06Ivgn13417 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:57:42 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: facstaff.wesleyan.edu: nobody set sender to jbreitling@wesleyan.edu using -f To: Subject: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers Message-ID: <1041879462.3e19d1a60673f@mail.wesleyan.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 13:57:42 -0500 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.0-pre13 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2003 18:57:43.0092 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E353740:01C2B5B5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This film sounds like it will be pretty authoritative, or at least as authoritative as possible, considering the difficulties of tracing the untraceable... http://www.junkmedia.org/?i=444 Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9713 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 01:53:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 01:53:52 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:50:29 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h071oSk11211 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:50:28 -0600 Received: (qmail 9591 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 01:48:36 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 01:48:36 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:48:06 -0600 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h071m5d11117 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:48:05 -0600 Message-Id: <200301070148.h071m5d11117@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Seth Tisue Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 06 Jan 2003 13:57:42 EST." <1041879462.3e19d1a60673f@mail.wesleyan.edu> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.0; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.2 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 19:48:05 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 01:48:06.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[D304DB70:01C2B5EE] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "jbreitling" == writes: jbreitling> http://www.junkmedia.org/?i=444 Interesting. I was especially interested to learn that Corwood suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving Ms. Vine's interview their 'stamp of approval.'" == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4405 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 15:25:28 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 15:25:28 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:22:51 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07FMoG15594 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:22:50 -0600 Received: (qmail 23678 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 09:19:37 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 09:19:37 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.247.154] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 03:19:14 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:19:14 -0800 Received: from 62.96.232.50 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:19:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.96.232.50] From: "Colin Meeder" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:19:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 09:19:14.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[D872C920:01C2B62D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >I was especially interested to learn that Corwood >suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't >be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving Ms. Vine's interview >their 'stamp of approval.'" Of course, it could also be interpreted as "Leave us alone. We've already said too much to Katy Vine. Talk to her." _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4912 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 15:28:30 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 15:28:30 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:28:26 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07FSPW15938 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:28:25 -0600 Received: (qmail 23678 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 09:19:37 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 09:19:37 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.247.154] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 03:19:14 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:19:14 -0800 Received: from 62.96.232.50 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:19:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.96.232.50] From: "Colin Meeder" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:19:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 09:19:14.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[D872C920:01C2B62D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >I was especially interested to learn that Corwood >suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't >be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving Ms. Vine's interview >their 'stamp of approval.'" Of course, it could also be interpreted as "Leave us alone. We've already said too much to Katy Vine. Talk to her." _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 17799 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 20:47:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 20:47:34 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:40:13 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07KeC118709 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:40:12 -0600 Received: (qmail 12504 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 18:25:07 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 18:25:07 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:16:18 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h07IGGlZ017632 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:16:16 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h07IGGO1017628; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:16:16 -0600 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:16:16 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: Colin Meeder cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 18:16:18.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[DFC36310:01C2B678] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Colin Meeder wrote: > >I was especially interested to learn that Corwood > >suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't > >be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving Ms. Vine's interview > >their 'stamp of approval.'" > > Of course, it could also be interpreted as "Leave us alone. We've already > said too much to Katy Vine. Talk to her." > Then again, if he came clean and said: "I'm a guy who makes albums in my spare bedroom with the occasional friend and I wasn't hoping to become some underground star or anything, just my contribution to music is what I was doing is all" would it satisfy any of us? Probably not. > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18836 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 21:04:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 21:04:34 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:04:12 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07L4Ca19026 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:04:12 -0600 Received: (qmail 18574 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 21:00:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 21:00:34 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.18.209] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:53:03 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:53:02 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "Paul Frederick" To: References: Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:21:46 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 20:53:02.0905 (UTC) FILETIME=[C526A290:01C2B68E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't >be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving Ms. Vine's interview >their 'stamp of approval.'" > Of course, it could also be interpreted as "Leave us alone. We've already > said too much to Katy Vine. Talk to her." Due respect, but we were talking about our interpretation. You can interpret it in any way you'd like, of course. But I assure you that if there had ever been even a glimmer.. even a hint of "Leave us alone" ... Corwood would've been left alone. Paul Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23121 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 23:13:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 23:13:29 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:12:42 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07NCfx20009 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:12:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 21686 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 22:24:47 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 22:24:47 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([216.33.237.69] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:23:26 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:23:25 -0800 Received: from 68.22.192.197 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 22:23:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.22.192.197] From: "C. A. Polk" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 22:23:25 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 22:23:25.0936 (UTC) FILETIME=[65877F00:01C2B69B] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >From: Todd Madson >Then again, if he came clean and said: "I'm a guy who makes albums in >my >spare bedroom with the occasional friend and I wasn't hoping to >become >some underground star or anything, just my contribution to >music is what I >was doing is all" would it satisfy any of us? >Probably not. PROBABLY not?????????? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23123 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 23:13:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 23:13:29 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:13:21 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07NDKA20036 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:13:20 -0600 Received: (qmail 21993 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 22:37:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 22:37:29 -0000 Received: from web41408.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.74]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:36:25 -0600 Message-ID: <20030107223621.3052.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.245] by web41408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 14:36:21 PST Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:36:21 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 22:36:25.0921 (UTC) FILETIME=[366FC310:01C2B69D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Paul Frederick wrote: > >suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as > Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't > >be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving > Ms. Vine's interview > >their 'stamp of approval.'" > > > Of course, it could also be interpreted as "Leave > us alone. We've already > > said too much to Katy Vine. Talk to her." > > Due respect, but we were talking about our > interpretation. You can > interpret it in any way you'd like, of course. But > I assure you that if > there had ever been even a glimmer.. even a hint of > "Leave us alone" ... > Corwood would've been left alone. > > Paul i agree. My opinion is that when he first started releasing albums, Mr. Smith assumed naively that his music was as normal as anyone else's in the music world. He wasn't attempting some kind of modern experiment in musical descontructionism. He probobly wasn't trying to achieve "pentatonic refractive dissonance", just a unique tuning. or maybe he bought that guitar at a yard sale and never tuned it. either way, his unprecedented style and approach were not intended to be revolutionary or unique in the outsider sense, just music that people could enjoy. evidence of this abounds in his early period correspondence. How he calls John the drummer, "absolute", even though "to my knowledge, he had never played drums before." he didn't tell irwin chusid: "i was attempting to express the feeling of suburban isolation through a dissonant guitar, and constant, pounding, offbeat drums". He was just a guy trying to have fun recording music. that's the vibe i received when i first heard him, and one of the reasons i enjoy listening to the music. the point is, corwood and sterling smith did want to be known, perhaps not in the way of personal fame, but certainly in musical fame. why send free boxes of records to hudreds of radio stations if you wanted to be unknown? why converse with people like chusid and trubee at all? why write the least possible when responding to people's letters? because it ads to the legend. corwood is sparse in everything but music, of which there is an inordinate amount. and if there is one thing that he has made clear that he wants, it is appreciation based soley on the music. note, i'm not trying to slag anyone's opinions of the man and his method (or lack thereof). i'm just saying what i think. as condon says above, you can interpret it any way you like. i know i've peeved people in the past, but if i peeve you today, you'd better loosen up. D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23841 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 23:14:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 23:14:29 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:13:47 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07NDkq20062 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:13:46 -0600 Received: (qmail 22466 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 22:53:33 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 22:53:33 -0000 Received: from web41401.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.67]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:52:11 -0600 Message-ID: <20030107225211.28765.qmail@web41401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.245] by web41401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 14:52:11 PST Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:52:11 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Documentary, Vine, and The Electric End To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 22:52:11.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A2AA470:01C2B69F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk that documentary is going to be awesome, i can't wait for it. from those two interviews, i think we can trust that the two filmmakers are going to do an excellent job. I I found it very interesting that corwood authenticated Katy Vine's now-true piece. imagine the thoughts that went through his head when she said to him "do you know anything about corwood industries?" i'd figure he first thought would be "oh no, they've found me! after all i'd done..." at that point, he could have simply said, "no, you've got the wrong fellow." but he took it with dignity, deciding that if they (the fans) wanted to know something about him this badly, he was obligated for their sake to accept one interview. it now stands as the only interview that we will ever have, and katy vine stands as the only person to have knowingly met Jandek. I'm perfectly fine with that conclusion, and i think most of us are. unrelated note: in the electric end, toward the beginning, you can hear someone (i think eddie) laughing to sterling, "what are you doing man? you're just yelling!" to which sterling replies "EEEEYAAAYAYAGHHA!" D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4057 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2003 06:18:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 8 Jan 2003 06:18:43 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:17:51 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h086Hpk21824 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:17:51 -0600 Received: (qmail 25206 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 23:47:30 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 23:47:30 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:44:10 -0600 Received: (qmail 28256 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 16:44:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by spf1.us.outblaze.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2003 16:44:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 97986 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 23:44:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.50) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 23:44:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 42625 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Jan 2003 23:44:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20030107234408.42624.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1041983048-32093-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 18:44:08 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 18:44:08 -0500 Subject: humility of pain lyrics X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 23:44:10.0937 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD5FFA90:01C2B6A6] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1041983048-32093-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've transcribed the lyrics to the rest of The Humility of Pain. 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-0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h095r0g02435 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:53:00 -0600 Received: (qmail 14176 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 05:52:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 05:52:21 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:48:19 -0600 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h095mHR02352 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:48:17 -0600 Message-Id: <200301090548.h095mHR02352@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: "Colin Tudor": List newbie questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=100 Content-Description: forwarded message X-Mailer: MH-E 7.0; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.2 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:48:17 -0600 From: Seth Tisue X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 05:48:19.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[B671A000:01C2B7A2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Resent: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:47:50 -0600 Resent: "tisue " Return-Path: cod@eggoffice.intranets.com Delivery-Date: Wed Jan 08 00:36:48 2003 Return-Path: X-Sent: 8 Jan 2003 00:34:24 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 To: owner-jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: "Colin Tudor" Return-Path: cod@eggoffice.intranets.com Subject: List newbie questions X-Sent-From: cod@eggoffice.intranets.com Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:34:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20030107163424.20390.h010.c000.wm@mail.eggoffice.intranets.com.criticalpath.net> I'm a newbie to the list and i have a few questions 1 Is Sterling Smith Jandek? 2 Is Jandek Dead? if not why the phrase 'she has the only interview we will ever have? 3 can i still get stuff from Corwood? 4 How will the forthcoming documentary be distributed/shown? 5 What form is Chusids work meant to take? A book out in the future?out already? 6 Finally, why is the list archive so badly kept, with headers and full mime docs left in? finally i find his music quite uplifting. I really like the first lp. I enjoy difficult music, i use Merzbow to relax and Albert Ayler to take off. I can't agree that noone listens to full albums as put by DM - I listen to several at a time and enjoy them immensely. I have the following 0739 Ready for the house 0740 Six and Six 0741 Later On 0743 Living in a Moon So Blue 0750 telegraph melts 0753 Blue Corpse 0759 Lost Cause 0762 Glad to get away 0770 I threw you away Are there any real goodies i'm missing? Thanks a lot Colin Tudor Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14943 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 06:02:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 06:02:21 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:59:10 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h095x8O02495 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:59:08 -0600 Received: (qmail 14658 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 05:56:28 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 05:56:28 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:55:59 -0600 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h095tvQ02459 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:55:57 -0600 Message-Id: <200301090555.h095tvQ02459@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Questions From: Seth Tisue X-Mailer: MH-E 7.0; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.2 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:55:57 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 05:55:59.0343 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8A257F0:01C2B7A3] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Colin> 3 can i still get stuff from Corwood? Yes, the ordering info at http://tisue.net/jandek/ is accurate. (Actually I've heard there are 3 more reissues now, but I haven't seen them either in my mailbox or from any online retailers, so I'm holding off on adding them until someone has actually seen/held them.) Colin> 6 Finally, why is the list archive so badly kept, with headers Colin> and full mime docs left in? Laziness. I should run them through mhonarc or pipermail at some point. Colin> Are there any real goodies i'm missing? Yeah, you should get "Interstellar Discussion", "You Walk Alone", and "On the Way", == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30458 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 14:14:04 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 14:14:04 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:13:53 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h09EDqc04977 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:13:52 -0600 Received: (qmail 19899 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 08:22:22 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 08:22:22 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.18.41] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 02:22:22 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 00:22:21 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "Paul Frederick" To: Subject: response to Jandek beginner questions Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 00:47:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2B778.B610FB80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 08:22:21.0805 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B63B1D0:01C2B7B8] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2B778.B610FB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>I'm a newbie to the list and i have a few questions I'll answer all of your questions as honestly as possible. >>1 Is Sterling Smith Jandek? Cutting right to the point, aren't we? Think less Alfred Hitchcock and more Erwin Schr=F6dinger...=20 In other words... short answer -- empty set, long answer approximates = "no" . >>2 (a)Is Jandek Dead? (b)if not why the phrase 'she has the only = interview we will ever have? (a) see answer for 1 (b) if you know of a Jandek interview, please share. >>3 can i still get stuff from Corwood? Of course! You can pick up reasonably priced titles from many sources, = including Forced Exposure... but the preferred method for getting the = CDs for most people is directly from Corwood. Write the PO Box for the = latest catalogue... a relatively recent example should be on Seth's = site. >>4 How will the forthcoming documentary be distributed/shown? Should be done by the end of April. Probably won't be shown until after = "festival season" in late August/September. Assuming that it will not = void eligibility, DVD/VHS copies will be sold to members of the list at = or near cost sometime in Spring '03. Exhibition/distribution should pace itself assuming a good showing at a = major festival. If enthusiasm at the festivals is less than optimal... = copies will be provided for those interested at a reasonable cost. A two minute theatrical trailer is now completed, and should be = somewhere on the internet within two weeks (looking for mirror sites, = btw... email jandocumentary@hotmail.com if you have some bandwidth to = share). >>5 What form is Chusids work meant to take? A book out in the = future?out already? Songs in the Key of Z, a book published a few years ago. He has several = other projects, but I'm almost sure that this is the one you're thinking = of. >>6 Finally, why is the list archive so badly kept, with headers and = full mime docs left in? Jandek is just no good at HTML... we've tried to coach him through it, = but it's just a lost cause. >>Are there any real goodies i'm missing? I'm sure there are... but I'd no sooner select Jandek songs for other = people than I would buy shoes for my girlfriend... in other words, it's = just too personal. The albums are cheap enough for most people to buy = in bulk (price break at 20 or 25). But if you'd like to sample a few = songs off of these albums to see if you like them first, then feel free = to download them on 'soulseek' (www.slsk.org). As always, the price is = reasonable enough to justify buying the records if you find that you = like them. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2B778.B610FB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>I'm a newbie to the list and i = have a few=20 questions

I'll answer all of your questions as honestly as=20 possible.

>>1 Is Sterling Smith Jandek?

Cutting = right to the=20 point, aren't we?

Think less Alfred Hitchcock and more Erwin=20 Schr=F6dinger...
 
In other words... short answer -- = empty set,=20 long answer approximates "no" .

>>2 (a)Is Jandek Dead? = (b)if not=20 why the phrase 'she has the only interview we will ever have?

(a) = see=20 answer for 1
(b) if you know of a Jandek interview, please=20 share.

>>3 can i still get stuff from Corwood?

Of=20 course!  You can pick up reasonably priced titles from many = sources,=20 including Forced Exposure... but the preferred method for getting the = CDs for=20 most people is directly from Corwood.  Write the PO Box for the = latest=20 catalogue... a relatively recent example should be on Seth's=20 site.

>>4 How will the forthcoming documentary be=20 distributed/shown?
 
Should be done by the end of = April.  Probably=20 won't be shown until after "festival season" in late = August/September. =20 Assuming that it will not void eligibility, DVD/VHS copies will be sold = to=20 members of the list at or near cost sometime in Spring=20 '03.

Exhibition/distribution should pace itself assuming a good = showing=20 at a major festival.  If enthusiasm at the festivals is less than=20 optimal... copies will be provided for those interested at a reasonable=20 cost.

A two minute theatrical trailer is now completed, and = should be=20 somewhere on the internet within two weeks (looking for mirror sites, = btw...=20 email jandocumentary@hotmail.com=  if=20 you have some bandwidth to share).

>>5 What form is Chusids = work=20 meant to take? A book out in the future?out already?

Songs in the = Key of=20 Z, a book published a few years ago.  He has several other = projects, but=20 I'm almost sure that this is the one you're thinking = of.

>>6=20 Finally, why is the list archive so badly kept, with headers and full = mime docs=20 left in?

Jandek is just no good at HTML... we've tried to coach = him=20 through it, but it's just a lost cause.

>>Are there any = real=20 goodies i'm missing?

I'm sure there are... but I'd no sooner = select=20 Jandek songs for other people than I would buy shoes for my = girlfriend... in=20 other words, it's just too personal.  The albums are cheap enough = for most=20 people to buy in bulk (price break at 20 or 25).  But if you'd like = to=20 sample a few songs off of these albums to see if you like them first, = then feel=20 free to download them on 'soulseek' (www.slsk.org).  As always, the = price is=20 reasonable enough to justify buying the records if you find that you = like=20 them.


------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2B778.B610FB80-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9225 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 19:16:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 19:16:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:14:38 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h09JEbb08190 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:14:37 -0600 Received: (qmail 8932 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 19:09:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 19:09:12 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:08:34 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h09J8RlZ025489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:08:27 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h09J8Nbe025482; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:08:27 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:08:22 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: Seth Tisue cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: "Colin Tudor": List newbie questions In-Reply-To: <200301090548.h095mHR02352@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> Message-ID: References: <200301090548.h095mHR02352@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 19:08:35.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[8273BB60:01C2B812] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Answers to Colin: (1) Nobody really knows if Sterling Smith is Jandek. It's obvious he's what makes Corwood go. And it's also pretty interesting to note that Corwood has other concerns beyond Jandek. As does Smith. (2) Not dead, just sleeping. Journalist Katy Vine tracked down one Sterling Smith and got rather cryptic answers. If he knows, he's not telling. He particularly asked her to pass on that he did not wish to ever be contacted by a journalist or a fan or anyone about Jandek ever again. Thus the 'only interview' reference. Analysis: Jandek, whoever he/she is has a lot to say musically yet values his privacy and avoids the traditional things you do as a musician: gigging out in bars, playing live, etcetera. The records are statements in themselves without the need for the ephemera of the "rock life" (and indeed, who could really say these are rock records? They are their own thing). I've heard multiple things about Jandek, I suspect most of it untrue: 1. It's Sterling Smith's solo music project, corporate day job by day, recording in the spare room by night. Truth? We will likely never know. 2. It's a rich guy bankrolling his retarded/disabled sons' music projects as an act of parental love. The work shows a little too much thought for the mindless ramblings of someone with a disabling mental condition. 3. Another theory I heard is that JANDEK isn't a PERSON, but rather JANDEK is a BANDNAME/PROJECTNAME. Since there are multiple people on some of the releases there is an aura of truth about it. This may be as close to the truth as we're likely to get. 4. Jandek supposedly means "Gift" in hungarian. I like this a lot. This being said, none of the above shouold be inferred to be true (or false). On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Seth Tisue wrote: [NON-Text Body part not included] -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18317 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 22:38:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 22:38:40 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:38:04 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h09Mc3111321 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:38:03 -0600 Received: (qmail 18153 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 22:35:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 22:35:40 -0000 Received: from c000.snv.cp.net ([209.228.32.66] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:34:28 -0600 Received: (cpmta 22545 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 14:34:27 -0800 Received: from 209.228.32.69 (HELO mail.eggoffice.intranets.com.criticalpath.net) by smtp.hosting1.intranets.com (209.228.32.66) with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 14:34:27 -0800 X-Sent: 9 Jan 2003 22:34:27 GMT Received: from [213.78.92.64] by mail.eggoffice.intranets.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:34:25 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: "Colin Tudor" Subject: Thanks to list X-Sent-From: cod@eggoffice.intranets.com Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:34:25 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: Web Mail 5.1.2-0_sol28 Message-Id: <20030109143426.612.h005.c000.wm@mail.eggoffice.intranets.com.criticalpath.net> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 22:34:28.0203 (UTC) FILETIME=[4518EBB0:01C2B82F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Dear All thanks for the info, I'm beginning to feel like I'm getting up to speed. A few more thoughts Anyone considered the Syd Barrett similarities? particlarly Syd's late period. Very Oar which i have heard compared to Jandek. Seth feels it is Jandek singing on Blue Corpse but I really feel that there are two male vocalists on that album. I'm a pro record producer and spend a lot of time listening intently to stuff and there are many differences in tone and inflection between the guy on Blue Corpse and most of the others. Unless Nancy's departure REALLY hit him hard and sent him to the bottle AND singing lessons ( Although he does sound fairly drunk on 'DOWN at the Ballpark'). The Blue Corpse vocalist natural pitching is a few tones down from the guy on ready for the house and in fact quite close to Skip Spence. Maybe its Skip doing Jandek !. On the other hand I could be completely wrong thats the joy of speculation. Maybe Sterling Smith lent Jandek out for an LP! I would really like an idea of where to go next with my collection. If I send to Corwood for bulk CD's can I select the ones i'd like (given they are in print of course)? I'll post my collection again so y'all can advise me where to go next. 0739 Ready for the house 0740 Six and Six 0741 Later On 0743 Living in a Moon So Blue 0750 telegraph melts 0753 Blue Corpse 0759 Lost Cause 0762 Glad to get away 0770 I threw you away and White Box Requiem Thanks again from a rambling newbie. Colin Tudor Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18316 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 22:38:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 22:38:40 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:37:43 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h09MbfU11295 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:37:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 18151 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 22:35:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 22:35:40 -0000 Received: from web41403.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.69]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:29:55 -0600 Message-ID: <20030109222954.55872.qmail@web41403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.138] by web41403.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:29:54 PST Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 14:29:54 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: "Colin Tudor": List newbie questions To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 22:29:55.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[A29BEF90:01C2B82E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk welcome to the list, colin. Here's my answers to your first two questions. (You'll come to find i'm one of the more pointedly opinionated people on the list)> >>>1 Is Sterling Smith Jandek? absolutely. it is painfully obvious that there is one man behind the project, the guy who signs the customs sheets, who does all the outside communications, whose name is on the us patent registry. That man is Sterling Smith. Everyone who has spoke to him on the phone says he sounds like jandek. and if he isn't jandek, he should get a better job. 2 Is Jandek Dead? if not why the phrase 'she has the only interview we will ever have? to our knowledge, he is alive and in his mid to late forties. given his last words in katy vine's article, it is safe to assume he will never accept an interview again. however, there is an entertaining theory that all of the stuff was recorded in the 60's by a vietnam draftee and is being published by a family member, jandek having died in the war. it's highly improbable, though. and because no one asked, here are my top ten Corwood albums. 10)The Beginning (if only for the title track) 9) Ready for the House 8) Graven Image 7) Chair Beside a Window 6) Glad to Get Away 5) Follow Your Footsteps 4) On the Way 3) Interstellar Discussion 2) Blue Corpse 1) You Walk Alone of course, i haven't heard them all. Honorable mentions: Lost Cause, Nine-Thirty, and Later On. i found the perfect place to start my "imagined biography": Point Judith. "Ghost Town By the Sea" says a lot about this place, which Jandek may have gone to with his family in the summer. My book begins with him returning to Point Judith in the late 80's and noting its run down, "faded glory", which he begins to see as a metaphore for his own life. the view from the silent beach prompts his to write the aformentioned song. as for other parts, i've got him living in Ohio for most of his youth, and his relationship with nancy. at some point, he leaves for texas because a friend (eddie)prompts him to come. he starts corwood soon after. nancy is tired of their long-distance relationship and ditches him. more to come when i work it out better. D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28933 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2003 21:24:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 10 Jan 2003 21:24:21 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:18:22 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0ALIL422863 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:18:21 -0600 Received: (qmail 28714 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2003 21:17:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 10 Jan 2003 21:17:21 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:17:07 -0600 Received: (qmail 11754 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2003 14:17:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by spf1.us.outblaze.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2003 14:17:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 74895 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2003 21:17:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-11.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.80) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2003 21:17:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 87907 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Jan 2003 21:17:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20030110211706.87906.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-11.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:17:05 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:17:05 -0500 Subject: jandek on rate your music.com X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-11.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2003 21:17:07.0648 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1862C00:01C2B8ED] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk A music review site called rateyourmusic.com features Jandek albums. I added a few reviews from myself. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31767 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2003 22:51:23 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 10 Jan 2003 22:51:23 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:43:13 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0AMhC823375 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:43:12 -0600 Received: (qmail 29740 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2003 21:38:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 10 Jan 2003 21:38:21 -0000 Received: from web41411.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.77]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:29:01 -0600 Message-ID: <20030110212901.40593.qmail@web41411.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.173.57] by web41411.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:29:01 PST Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:29:01 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Thanks to list To: Jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030109143426.612.h005.c000.wm@mail.eggoffice.intranets.com.criticalpath.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2003 21:29:01.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B4283A0:01C2B8EF] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk colin said: > Seth feels it is Jandek singing on Blue Corpse but I > really feel that there are two male vocalists > on that album. I'm a pro record producer and spend a > lot of time listening intently to stuff and > there are many differences in tone and inflection > between the guy on Blue Corpse... yes! finally someone agrees with me on the Eddie theory! i was discussing this point a few months back and everyone said i was wrong. it is great to hear the confiramtion of the difference in voice from an actual producer, someone who has heard a lot. I also pulled the theory further by saying that this vocalist,(who i call Eddie because jandek says "take it eddie" right before the guitar solo in "down at the ballpark") is also the "good guitarist" who first appears (i think) on Follow Your Footsteps and continues through On the Way. To my knowledge, he stops singing at On the Way. my only evidence that he is the guitarist as well is that when he stops singing, that guitar playing dissappears. There are some isolated incidences of "good" playing on the late middle albums, like "Babe I love you" "Cellar", and "I May not be around", but they are in a different style than Eddie's playing, which is very recognisable in the same way that Clapton's of Hendrix's is, even is he is no where near as good as those two. He likes certain chord progressions and his solo fills are very recognisable. he is, in my opinion, the most interesting collaborator in jandek's ouvre, adding a lot of the tone to the albums on which he plays and sings, which are usually considered to be jandek's best. On my website i have a section concerning the other performers, and the songs on which they play or sing. there is much more about eddie there. the goal of my site will not be a supreme godlike database, we already have that in Seth's site. rather, it will focus on analysis and discussion of his music, his method, if there even is a method, and his lyrics. I will only put up albums in my discography section that i have heard, with one page song-by-song reviews and ratings of each. Graded 1-5 in "sterlings" which are tiny pictures of jandek's head. my other goal is to piece together his life from documentation, and more importantly lyrics. it is www.geocities.com/alfredggnome/jandek.html and should be up by the end of the day---- D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31768 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2003 22:51:23 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 10 Jan 2003 22:51:23 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:43:48 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0AMhlD23420 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:43:47 -0600 Received: (qmail 30591 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2003 22:02:22 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 10 Jan 2003 22:02:22 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.38] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:55:32 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:54:32 -0800 Received: from 62.254.160.106 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:54:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.254.160.106] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: "EEEEYAAAYAYAGHHA!" Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:54:32 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2003 21:54:32.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB75C4C0:01C2B8F2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Daniel Marks wrote: unrelated note: in the electric end, toward the beginning, you can hear someone (i think eddie) laughing to sterling, "what are you doing man? you're just yelling!" to which sterling replies "EEEEYAAAYAYAGHHA!" Ah. If there's a better apologia for Jandek's aesthetic I have yet to hear it! Paul _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 10686 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2003 05:09:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 11 Jan 2003 05:09:43 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 10 Jan 2003 23:09:42 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0B59f224963 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 23:09:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 8460 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2003 03:36:42 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 11 Jan 2003 03:36:42 -0000 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.162]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:30:08 -0600 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.12a.1fc3f78a (3972) for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:30:03 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: <12a.1fc3f78a.2b50e9ba@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:30:02 EST Subject: Re: Thanks to list To: Jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2003 03:30:08.0554 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD9568A0:01C2B921] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk In a message dated 1/10/03 5:51:54 PM, alfredggnome@yahoo.com writes: << He likes certain chord progressions and his solo fills are very recognisable. >> Someone came up with a name for that style a while back..."the blues" I think it was. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12001 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2003 03:11:39 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2003 03:11:39 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:11:28 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0C3BRq32233 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:11:27 -0600 Received: (qmail 5804 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2003 22:35:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 11 Jan 2003 22:35:17 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.10] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:32:57 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:32:57 -0800 Received: from 62.254.160.106 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:32:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.254.160.106] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: aquarius site Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:32:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2003 22:32:57.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[63923C70:01C2B9C1] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Review of The Humility of Pain with 2 mins of You Know You Need at: http://www.aquariusrecords.org/cat/newest.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12408 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2003 03:13:39 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2003 03:13:39 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:12:39 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0C3CcP32262 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:12:38 -0600 Received: (qmail 5463 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2003 22:22:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 11 Jan 2003 22:22:17 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.83] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:16:38 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:16:38 -0800 Received: from 62.254.160.106 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:16:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.254.160.106] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: more idle speculation Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:16:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2003 22:16:38.0199 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C26C470:01C2B9BF] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >yes! finally someone agrees with me on the Eddie >theory! i was discussing this point a few months back >and everyone said i was wrong. I think it's generally accepted that "Eddie" sings on the first few songs on Blue Corpse, I Know the Times on You Walk Alone, and that any guitar featuring standard tunings (as distinct from the non-diatonic Jandek tunings and the electric stuff that sounds out of tune) is played by Ed or someone else. Also another different male vocalist on the bulk of I Woke Up, parts of Modern Dances etc. >My opinion is that when he first started releasing albums, Mr. Smith > >assumed naively that his music was as normal as anyone else's in the > >music world. I don't agree, but it does highlight what I think is one of the most unfathomable aspects of Jandek's muse - how he had the guts to release Ready for the House and send it out in the first place. He told Chusid that he intended to release all his recordings, and his drive to do so with the almost total lack of interest in his music is interesting. Did he assume at that stage that if he kept at it, they would eventually be enjoyed by even a few? Corwood's early activities would make more sense had they appeared a few years later when a small self-released pressings were more common. Then again I doubt that there was a punk aesthetic at work here (due to Jandek's apparent lack of such influences, and I somehow doubt that 1978 Houston was a hotbed of small independent label activity), but even in the context of off-the-wall vanity pressings the first album was a huge leap of faith. I don't think that the music was very calculated and contrived, but it is very deliberate, for example the way the tunings change every 2 albums for the first 6. >How he calls John the drummer, "absolute", even though "to my >knowledge, >he had never played drums before." I think this is to do with his obviously very elemental conception of rock and folk music (I use these terms widely and loosely) - that the manic thrash of the likes of John Plays Drums is total rock'n'roll, as in the idea of rock music as energy and spirit rather than more prosaic concerns with chord structures and conventional ability and accuracy etc. (which was never the point of Bo Diddley or Little Richard anyway). >why send free boxes of records to hudreds of radio stations if you >wanted >to be unknown? Well, he obviously did want them to be heard, and there was obviously a promotional aspect to this, but his comment to Chusid, "I need to move them", which I initially took as commercial ambition, was more likely to do with physically having to move them from wherever they were. >as condon says above, you can interpret>it any way you like. That wasn't me - different Paul. But 'tis true. I'll post the Rocks Crumble lyrics during the week. I also promised more on the tunings ages ago - I'll put together something as comprehensive as possible within the next few weeks. Paul _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 13330 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2003 03:33:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2003 03:33:13 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:33:02 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0C3X1l00308 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:33:01 -0600 Received: (qmail 13249 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2003 03:30:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2003 03:30:38 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:30:36 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0C3UVlZ009704 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:30:31 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0C3UUoe009700; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:30:30 -0600 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:30:30 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: Paul Condon cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: more idle speculation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2003 03:30:36.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8969860:01C2B9EA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Paul Condon wrote: > >yes! finally someone agrees with me on the Eddie > >theory! i was discussing this point a few months back > >and everyone said i was wrong. > > >My opinion is that when he first started releasing albums, Mr. Smith > > >assumed naively that his music was as normal as anyone else's in the > > >music world. > > I don't agree, but it does highlight what I think is one of the most > unfathomable aspects of Jandek's muse - how he had the guts to release Ready > for the House and send it out in the first place. He told Chusid that he > intended to release all his recordings, and his drive to do so with the > almost total lack of interest in his music is interesting. Sometimes artists will record something that speaks to them, loudly and an internal voice just says "let it go, send it out there into the world" without really asking too many questions about it. It's not that they view it as a commercial enterprise but the music sort of descended on them as if it was a peculiar gift and they feel that if they don't send it out there that maybe that gift will go away. At least that's the way it is for me. It's terrifying when you put something strange out there but there are always those who will "get it" (even if, as Mr. Smith says "there's nothign to get"). Then again, if you think about it too much you can freeze into inactivity. Maybe it's just something that he really feels strongly about and just sends it out there because he HAS to. Some musicians will know what I'm talking about. > Did he assume at that stage that if he kept at it, they would eventually > be enjoyed by even a few? Very interesting question - almost like a chicken and egg question. We may never know unless Mr. Smith speaks explicitly about it someday. > Corwood's early activities would make more sense had they appeared a > few years later when a small self-released pressings were more common. I thought about this too, but then again, I remember reading an interview with Mark Mothersbaugh of Devo where he said that the reason they made all of those short films with the Booji Boy in it and General Boy was because they read in some magazine that videodiscs would be the way people would be enjoying music in 1975, and being naive they believed it. There have been books on how to release your own records in the 1970s (I think I have one of the books lying around somewhere) but one might never know what caused him to release this stuff and keep releasing it. How many projects without major label backing dissolved after album number two or three? It really is encouraging to see the "staying power" displayed here especially given the content's non "overtly commercial" stance. Some major label projects haven't lasted as long as Jandek! > Then again I doubt that there was a punk aesthetic at work here (due to Jandek's > apparent lack of such influences, and I somehow doubt that 1978 Houston was > a hotbed of small independent label activity), but even in the context of > off-the-wall vanity pressings the first album was a huge leap of faith. I > don't think that the music was very calculated and contrived, but it is very > deliberate, for example the way the tunings change every 2 albums for the > first 6. > One wonders if there is a master flowchart on the wall of a Houston town- house somewhere, with specific plans for each release or what? > >How he calls John the drummer, "absolute", even though "to my >knowledge, > >he had never played drums before." > Very interesting. > I think this is to do with his obviously very elemental conception of rock > and folk music (I use these terms widely and loosely) - that the manic > thrash of the likes of John Plays Drums is total rock'n'roll, as in the idea > of rock music as energy and spirit rather than more prosaic concerns with > chord structures and conventional ability and accuracy etc. (which was never > the point of Bo Diddley or Little Richard anyway). > Rock as spiritual energy outlet rather than structured commercial audio wallpaper for teen listeners. > >why send free boxes of records to hudreds of radio stations if you >wanted > >to be unknown? > > Well, he obviously did want them to be heard, and there was obviously a > promotional aspect to this, but his comment to Chusid, "I need to move > them", which I initially took as commercial ambition, was more likely to do > with physically having to move them from wherever they were. > > >as condon says above, you can interpret>it any way you like. > "I need to move them" - compulsion? obsession? practical space related concern? It could be any or all of this. > That wasn't me - different Paul. But 'tis true. > I'll post the Rocks Crumble lyrics during the week. I also promised more on > the tunings ages ago - I'll put together something as comprehensive as > possible within the next few weeks. > Paul > I'd be curious as to the tunings as well. -t > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7539 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2003 17:10:24 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2003 17:10:24 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:04:26 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0CH4PV14999 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:04:25 -0600 Received: (qmail 4278 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2003 14:45:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2003 14:45:15 -0000 Received: from web14102.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.172.132]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:41:23 -0600 Message-ID: <20030112144122.24103.qmail@web14102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.173.164.250] by web14102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:41:22 GMT Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:41:22 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?the=20cumbersome=20company?= Subject: cumbersome records, melbourne australia To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2003 14:41:23.0507 (UTC) FILETIME=[ADBD4830:01C2BA48] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk hi there, i'm opening up a specialist record store in melbourne, australia, that deals solely in bands/artists who release their own material and i'd love to get some jandek in there... you can score the full details from the website below... even though i know all yr stuff is usually sold on a cash up front basis, i hope you can send us some stock to try and sell... cheers aaron ===== The Cumbersome Company / Cumbersome Records 93 Johnston St Collingwood, Melbourne Australia 3066 http://www.cumbersome.co.uk cumbersomecompany@yahoo.co.uk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23438 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2003 05:46:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Jan 2003 05:46:17 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:45:37 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0F5jZU18845 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:45:35 -0600 Received: (qmail 23388 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2003 05:44:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Jan 2003 05:44:17 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.18.81] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:43:49 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:43:48 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "Paul Frederick" To: Subject: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:12:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005F_01C2BC1A.0B301FB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2003 05:43:48.0517 (UTC) FILETIME=[1381A550:01C2BC59] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C2BC1A.0B301FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello... Still trying to work out the kinks of hosting this trailer somewhere on = the internet. In the meantime, I'll share it on soulseek (www.slsk.org) ... Username = 'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj' ... the files are named "Jandek on Corwood Movie = Trailer 17Mb" and "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 7Mb". The 17Mb file = is, predictably, higher quality... but the 7Mb version is more dialup = friendly. I certainly hope that you find it worth your time to download. We will shortly have it hosted somewhere.... just trying to give 'the = list' first crack at it. Regards, Paul ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C2BC1A.0B301FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello...

Still trying to work = out the kinks=20 of hosting this trailer somewhere on the internet.

In the = meantime, I'll=20 share it on soulseek (www.slsk.org) = ... =20 Username 'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj' ... the files are named "Jandek on Corwood = Movie=20 Trailer 17Mb" and "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 7Mb".   The = 17Mb=20 file is, predictably, higher quality... but the 7Mb version is more = dialup=20 friendly.

I certainly hope that you find it worth your time to=20 download.

We will shortly have it hosted somewhere.... just = trying to=20 give 'the list' first crack at=20 it.

Regards,
Paul
------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C2BC1A.0B301FB0-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25877 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2003 22:49:48 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Jan 2003 22:49:48 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:43:14 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0FMhDO27088 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:43:13 -0600 Received: (qmail 25431 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2003 22:37:49 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Jan 2003 22:37:49 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([216.33.237.61] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:33:41 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:33:40 -0800 Received: from 65.92.16.149 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:33:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.92.16.149] From: "Darin Mitchell" To: sandman_142@hotmail.com, jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:33:36 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2003 22:33:40.0642 (UTC) FILETIME=[273A3020:01C2BCE6] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk How do we download it? Where do we go? Where is the download section? sorry, I'm not familiar with SS. >From: "Paul Frederick" >To: >Subject: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:12:36 -0800 > >Hello... > >Still trying to work out the kinks of hosting this trailer somewhere on the >internet. > >In the meantime, I'll share it on soulseek (www.slsk.org) ... Username >'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj' ... the files are named "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer >17Mb" and "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 7Mb". The 17Mb file is, >predictably, higher quality... but the 7Mb version is more dialup friendly. > >I certainly hope that you find it worth your time to download. > >We will shortly have it hosted somewhere.... just trying to give 'the list' >first crack at it. > >Regards, >Paul _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25878 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2003 22:49:48 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Jan 2003 22:49:48 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:43:18 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0FMhH927116 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:43:17 -0600 Received: (qmail 25432 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2003 22:37:49 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Jan 2003 22:37:49 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([216.33.237.133] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:35:30 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:35:30 -0800 Received: from 65.92.16.149 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:35:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.92.16.149] From: "Darin Mitchell" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:35:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2003 22:35:30.0137 (UTC) FILETIME=[687DCC90:01C2BCE6] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk nevermind. forget that last email. I'm an idiot. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 6093 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 05:49:57 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 05:49:57 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:41:16 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0G5fFP29434 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:41:15 -0600 Received: (qmail 2795 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 03:50:49 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 03:50:49 -0000 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.163]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:49:52 -0600 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.7b.75336cb (16781) for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:49:50 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: <7b.75336cb.2b5785de@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:49:50 EST Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 03:49:52.0898 (UTC) FILETIME=[5392B620:01C2BD12] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Argh....useless with a Mac! In a message dated 1/15/03 12:46:23 AM, sandman_142@hotmail.com writes: << Hello... Still trying to work out the kinks of hosting this trailer somewhere on the internet. In the meantime, I'll share it on soulseek (www.slsk.org) ... Username 'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj' ... the files are named "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 17Mb" and "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 7Mb". The 17Mb file is, predictably, higher quality... but the 7Mb version is more dialup friendly. I certainly hope that you find it worth your time to download. We will shortly have it hosted somewhere.... just trying to give 'the list' first crack at it. Regards, Paul >> Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23366 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 14:22:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 14:22:54 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:22:50 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GEMnt00462 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:22:49 -0600 Received: (qmail 19973 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 12:10:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 12:10:54 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 06:06:28 -0600 Received: (qmail 18950 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 05:06:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by spf1.us.outblaze.com with QMQP; 16 Jan 2003 05:06:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 20184 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 12:06:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.57) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 12:06:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 10214 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Jan 2003 12:06:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20030116120627.10213.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:06:27 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:06:27 -0500 Subject: forced exposure has 2 new reissues X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 12:06:28.0398 (UTC) FILETIME=[B31334E0:01C2BD57] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Forcedexposure.com has started listing "The Living End" and "Somebody In The Snow". -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23748 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 14:23:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 14:23:54 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:23:42 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GENfF00491 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:23:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 23049 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 14:10:53 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 14:10:53 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:10:00 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0GE9vlZ006761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:09:57 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0GE9v68006757; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:09:57 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:09:56 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: NCR13@aol.com cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer In-Reply-To: <7b.75336cb.2b5785de@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <7b.75336cb.2b5785de@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 14:10:00.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[F525F870:01C2BD68] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk All I saw was some couples webpage, no movie trailer. On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 NCR13@aol.com wrote: > Argh....useless with a Mac! > > > In a message dated 1/15/03 12:46:23 AM, sandman_142@hotmail.com writes: > > << Hello... > > > Still trying to work out the kinks of hosting this trailer somewhere on the > internet. > > > In the meantime, I'll share it on soulseek (www.slsk.org) ... Username > 'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj' ... the files are named "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer > 17Mb" and "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 7Mb". The 17Mb file is, > predictably, higher quality... but the 7Mb version is more dialup friendly. > > > I certainly hope that you find it worth your time to download. > > > We will shortly have it hosted somewhere.... just trying to give 'the list' > first crack at it. > > > Regards, > > Paul > > >> > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25754 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 15:13:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 15:13:54 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:09:28 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GF9R201123 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:09:27 -0600 Received: (qmail 24933 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 14:48:53 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 14:48:53 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.245.204] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:44:31 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 06:44:30 -0800 Received: from 12.110.192.128 by by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:44:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.110.192.128] From: "dave m." To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:44:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 14:44:30.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6FCDAE0:01C2BD6D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk wha? the trailer looks great! can't wait for the whole thing. -d >From: Todd Madson >To: NCR13@aol.com >CC: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu >Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:09:56 -0600 (CST) > > >All I saw was some couples webpage, no movie trailer. > >On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 NCR13@aol.com wrote: > > > Argh....useless with a Mac! > > > > > > In a message dated 1/15/03 12:46:23 AM, sandman_142@hotmail.com writes: > > > > << Hello... > > > > > > Still trying to work out the kinks of hosting this trailer somewhere on >the > > internet. > > > > > > In the meantime, I'll share it on soulseek (www.slsk.org) ... Username > > 'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj' ... the files are named "Jandek on Corwood Movie >Trailer > > 17Mb" and "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 7Mb". The 17Mb file is, > > predictably, higher quality... but the 7Mb version is more dialup >friendly. > > > > > > I certainly hope that you find it worth your time to download. > > > > > > We will shortly have it hosted somewhere.... just trying to give 'the >list' > > first crack at it. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Paul > > > > >> > > > >-- _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 701 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 18:22:08 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 18:22:08 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:21:51 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GILod03123 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:21:50 -0600 Received: (qmail 622 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 18:21:08 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 18:21:08 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:20:41 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0GIKdlZ006088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:20:39 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0GIKdeK006084; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:20:39 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:20:39 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: "dave m." cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 18:20:41.0570 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA355C20:01C2BD8B] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I don't know. I pulled up the url in question and it was a webpage of some couple somewhere, click on the guy's face to get to his site and her face to get to hers. Nothing about Jandek that I could see. Vanity webpage. On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, dave m. wrote: > wha? > > > the trailer looks great! can't wait for the whole thing. > > -d > > > > > >From: Todd Madson > >To: NCR13@aol.com > >CC: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > >Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer > >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:09:56 -0600 (CST) > > > > > >All I saw was some couples webpage, no movie trailer. > > > >On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 NCR13@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Argh....useless with a Mac! > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 1/15/03 12:46:23 AM, sandman_142@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > << Hello... > > > > > > > > > Still trying to work out the kinks of hosting this trailer somewhere on > >the > > > internet. > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, I'll share it on soulseek (www.slsk.org) ... Username > > > 'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj' ... the files are named "Jandek on Corwood Movie > >Trailer > > > 17Mb" and "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 7Mb". The 17Mb file is, > > > predictably, higher quality... but the 7Mb version is more dialup > >friendly. > > > > > > > > > I certainly hope that you find it worth your time to download. > > > > > > > > > We will shortly have it hosted somewhere.... just trying to give 'the > >list' > > > first crack at it. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >-- > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5187 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 20:09:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 20:09:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:08:56 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GK8tA04492 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:08:55 -0600 Received: (qmail 4178 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 19:42:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 19:42:12 -0000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.39]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:36:17 -0600 Received: from AKelly1971@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.ba.34ff016e (18555); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:34:47 -0500 (EST) From: AKelly1971@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:34:47 EST Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer To: crash@waste.org, claptrap@hotmail.com CC: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ba.34ff016e.2b586357_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10630 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 19:36:17.0039 (UTC) FILETIME=[898F01F0:01C2BD96] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_ba.34ff016e.2b586357_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm also clueless as to how to access the trailer on soulseek. Somebody help me! --part1_ba.34ff016e.2b586357_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm also clueless as to how to access the trailer on soulseek.  Somebody help me! --part1_ba.34ff016e.2b586357_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5537 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 20:10:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 20:10:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:09:13 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GK9CA04518 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:09:12 -0600 Received: (qmail 4193 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 19:42:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 19:42:13 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.245.20] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:40:07 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:40:06 -0800 Received: from 12.110.192.128 by by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:40:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.110.192.128] From: "dave m." To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:40:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 19:40:06.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[124F1840:01C2BD97] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk you could either do file search for "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer", or go to 'add user', which i think is under 'options'. Add Paul (user name 'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj'), and then go to your user list and right click on his name and select 'browse users files'. I can't remember exactly where he has the file, but its not hard to find if you look through his folders. -d >From: AKelly1971@aol.com >To: crash@waste.org, claptrap@hotmail.com >CC: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu >Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:34:47 EST > >I'm also clueless as to how to access the trailer on soulseek. Somebody >help >me! _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 10603 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 22:12:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 22:12:11 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:07:33 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GM7WW05386 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:07:32 -0600 Received: (qmail 10332 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 22:04:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 22:04:12 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.158] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:03:23 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:01:33 -0800 Received: from 62.254.160.106 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:01:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.254.160.106] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: this months obligatory Mojo mention Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:01:32 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 22:01:33.0076 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4B8B540:01C2BDAA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Another brief use of Jandek as yardstick for musical oddness in this month's Mojo magazine (with Kate Bush on the cover). In a top 50 of albums by "eccentrics", Chusid's quote about Jandek not being "rock", "roll", "or even 'n'" (sic) is mentioned in relation to an album by indie band Denim. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12223 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 22:47:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 22:47:09 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:44:17 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GMiFs05702 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:44:15 -0600 Received: (qmail 11814 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 22:35:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 22:35:10 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.18.209] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:33:45 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:33:44 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "Paul Frederick" To: Subject: Dutch(?) Jandek Photography Exhibition. Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:02:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2BD70.54BD8AD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 22:33:44.0944 (UTC) FILETIME=[54345F00:01C2BDAF] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2BD70.54BD8AD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.mu.nl/exhibitions/now/43-IamAcamara/IamAcamara.html "I Am A Camera" is the title of the photo exhibition... Can't really = make very much sense of it. Anyone able to translate? ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2BD70.54BD8AD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2BD70.54BD8AD0-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12945 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 22:57:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 22:57:10 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:51:25 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GMpOU05865 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:51:24 -0600 Received: (qmail 12646 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 22:49:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 22:49:09 -0000 Received: from web41403.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.69]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:48:58 -0600 Message-ID: <20030116224857.22421.qmail@web41403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.174.175] by web41403.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:48:57 PST Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:48:57 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer (and some lyrics from 0758) To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-434349634-1042757337=:22073" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 22:48:58.0679 (UTC) FILETIME=[74D54470:01C2BDB1] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --0-434349634-1042757337=:22073 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That was the msot awesome thing i have ever seen about jandek. no lies. and thats as only two minutes! Some parts were a little cheesy----but necessary for the trailer style. the part at the end though, where jandek blinks, that was amaazingly cool. and the buildup part from "Only Lover" was perfect. In short, i think from seeing this that we can all agree that "Jandek On Corwood" promises to be the definative work on Jandek to this date. I only wish i could have gotten to be interviewed...i missed the dates. i think it would have been cool to have a younger fan's POV. It all reminds me that the real mystery with jandek is not "who?", but "why?" After all, i don't feel like I understand Weezer better because i know that the lead singer went to harvard, or that he keeps a binder of all modern pop songs in an attempt to write the pefect one. Those facts are trivial, just like that Jandek's real name is Sterling R. Smith, or that he grew up in Ohio (fairly obvious in his refern e! ces and that nancy was from ohio). That's just not important. what intigues me is what compelled him to make these recordings, why he wrote what he did, the way he did, and where he got the balls to release it. That's what I want to know, and i firmly believe the answers lie in his lyrics. Micheal May (from studio 360), speaking (i think) of this mailing list said "On the internet, fragments of information and song lyrics are exchanged and analysed, as if jandek's music is one big puzzle..."I think it is. other random thoughts. I like seth's "Mike" theory, except there is one problem. At 0:17 in "Today" the one saying "goodnight Mike" is...Mike himself. so i guess his name isn't Mike, but we'll go with it anyway, because he sure isn't Jandek. I listen to some of Telegraph Melts the other day and thoughnt it was pretty weird. Especially "Governer Rhodes". Jandek is doing a strange voice in that song, and he actually sounds more like mike than sterling. which leads me to think e! ither he is really mike, or that mike sings on telegraph melts. Who knows. I've got no idea."Jandek make---Jandek music"D.M. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now --0-434349634-1042757337=:22073 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii That was the msot awesome thing i have ever seen about jandek. no lies. and thats as only two minutes! Some parts were a little cheesy----but necessary for the trailer style. the part at the end though, where jandek blinks, that was amaazingly cool. and the buildup part from "Only Lover" was perfect. In short, i think from seeing this that we can all agree that "Jandek On Corwood" promises to be the definative work on Jandek to this date. I only wish i could have gotten to be interviewed...i missed the dates. i think it would have been cool to have a younger fan's POV. It all reminds me that the real mystery with jandek is not "who?", but "why?" After all, i don't feel like I understand Weezer better because i know that the lead singer went to harvard, or that he keeps a binder of all modern pop songs in an attempt to write the pefect one. Those facts are trivial, just like that Jandek's real name is Sterling R. Smith, or that he grew up in Ohio (fairly obvious in his referneces and that nancy was from ohio). That's just not important. what intigues me is what compelled him to make these recordings, why he wrote what he did, the way he did, and where he got the balls to release it. That's what I want to know, and i firmly believe the answers lie in his lyrics. Micheal May (from studio 360), speaking (i think) of this mailing list said "On the internet, fragments of information and song lyrics are exchanged and analysed, as if jandek's music is one big puzzle..." I think it is. other random thoughts. I like seth's "Mike" theory, except there is one problem. At 0:17 in "Today" the one saying "goodnight Mike" is...Mike himself. so i guess his name isn't Mike, but we'll go with it anyway, because he sure isn't Jandek. I listen to some of Telegraph Melts the other day and thoughnt it was pretty weird. Especially "Governer Rhodes". Jandek is doing a strange voice in that song, and he actually sounds more like mike than sterling. which leads me to think either he is really mike, or that mike sings on telegraph melts. Who knows. I've got no idea. "Jandek make---Jandek music" D.M.


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Sign up now --0-434349634-1042757337=:22073-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15269 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 23:59:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 23:59:11 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:53:37 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GNrZT06328 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:53:35 -0600 Received: (qmail 14952 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 23:49:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 23:49:10 -0000 Received: from web41409.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.75]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:47:55 -0600 Message-ID: <20030116234754.8170.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.174.175] by web41409.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:47:54 PST Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:47:54 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Rain in Cleveland To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 23:47:55.0117 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0B6E1D0:01C2BDB9] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I mentioned Jandek being from Ohio. There is a lot of proof to back this up. First, the two that Seth mentions: Chilocothe (former capital), and Governer Rhodes (former, um, governer). Also in his lyrics, he mentions Ohio twice: From "Wild Strawberries" in Six and Six: I'm wondering where The murdering town I'm beating a hundred There's a place you could call me Out in Ohio You're down in the numbers You're listed forty-five and again in Left the Beach Last Sunday"(Nine-Thirty): left the beach on last Sunday I came a long way >From South Carolina to Ohi-a Wasn't fussy about the way I came To me it was all the same I left the beach on last Sunday this explains the lyric later on the album ("Georgia East") "You people sure are strange to a city boy from up north". he means Ohio when he says up north. Other proof: Jandek says Nancy was "an Ohio cosmopolitan hillbilly type who ran across my path one day." Her chances of running across his path if he's in Texas and she's from Ohio don't seem very high. and one more tidbit: there's a woman living in Ohio named NANCY JANDEK. yeah. i heard that on this list. so i think we know where he got his name from. of course, she's probobly keeping his secret too. knowing this explains more about the relationship between Jandek and Nancy, and explains more about when the music was recorded. It seems that he moved to Texas some time near 1978, this being the latest he could have started Corwood. In 1980 he said to Chusid that he had about 10 albums worth of material, up to about Telegraph Melts or Nine-Thirty. In the trubee article, written in '85, right before the release of his 10th album, he was living in a houston apartment. Now, in his letter to chusid he says "She [Nancy] appears on many future cuts" The Nancy from Chair Beside a Window stops singing on Modern Dances. Now, after Modern Dances, we get, surpirse, Blue Corpse. No Nancy, instead Eddie and a lot of songs about a broken relationship. Clearly, as Seth said, they've broken up. so from this, we can say two things: either that all the albums up to Modern Dances were recorded in Ohio, in the seventies, or everything up to Telegraph Melts was done in Ohio, and the rest of the Nancy songs were recorded in visits from Nancy to Jandek (aka Sterling). This stays consistant with Eddie, who appears first on Follow Your Footsteps. I think Eddie is a friend Jandek met very early in Houston, and who he lost touch with as he moved to new neighborhoods, and got new jobs. So i've constructed a timeline from these tied-together information fragments. 1945-1950: Sterling Smith is Born in Ohio Late 60's to late 70's: Smith records everything up to Telegraph Melts, essentially the entire Early period. Somewhere in between, he meets Nancy. roughly between 1977-1978: Smith moves to Houston and for unknown reasons presses his first album, Ready for the House, under the name "Units". He meets Eddie and they begin to record together. roughly between 1978-1981: Sterling and Nancy break up, presumably because of long-distance problems, although he continues to record, including her visit(s), and is probobly done with Follow Your Footsteps and preceding albums by 1981. He breaks up with Nancy in between and Modern Dances and Blue Corpse, possibly halfway through Modern Dances. These years are thought of as his "lost years" but now they seem to make more sense. He probobly couldn't bring himself to release another album, or perhaps he just couldn't afford it. He deals with his pain through his lyrics, the ultimate expression of this being Blue Corpse. 1981-1986: Sterling begins to release albums again, but this time with the name changed to Jandek. I believe that Nancy Jandek is the nancy in question, and that he picked that name as an ode/spite to her, in addition to the other Units problem. Also during this time, he records from You Walk Alone to possibly Lost Cause, but maybe something else... Basically, Edie leaves...i think after On the Way, presumably because Jandek moves. Then, after Lost Cause, he movees again...it get sketchier that and that is the best I can do for now. Of course, i make a lot of barely evidenced assumptions, but this seems pretty logical to me. One more piece, here are the correct lyrics for the song, "Nine Thirty", a personal favorite of mine: Ol' texaco and seven south Montague avenue Red and green and yellow Two thousand Dorcester All those white lines And bumping tires Keep off the median There's an air force base And a whole human race Moving until tomorrow the missing word was "Dorcester", which is an area near Boston, and apparently some street in the southeast. more to come later, including Sterling's chlidhood trips to the Fishing town of Point Judith, RI, and his infamous trip around the southeast. D.M. "celebrate out magic!" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24030 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 05:00:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 05:00:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:51:29 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0H4pRj08625 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:51:27 -0600 Received: (qmail 19571 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 02:09:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 02:09:14 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:06:50 -0600 Received: (qmail 12478 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 02:06:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by spf1.us.outblaze.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2003 02:06:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 55051 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 02:06:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.55) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 02:06:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 66829 invoked by uid 1001); 17 Jan 2003 02:06:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20030117020647.66828.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:06:47 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:06:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Rain in Cleveland X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 02:07:04.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[21736070:01C2BDCD] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Well Mr. Marks, I admire your creativity and enthusiasm (and agree about Ohio), but perhaps you should put a warning on your website: CONTENTS HEAVILY SPECULATIVE AND OPINIONATIVE. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24025 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 05:00:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 05:00:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:51:09 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0H4p7G08571 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:51:07 -0600 Received: (qmail 15260 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 23:59:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 23:59:11 -0000 Received: from web13302.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.175.38]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:56:47 -0600 Message-ID: <20030116235643.59630.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.126.199.89] by web13302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:56:43 PST Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:56:43 -0800 (PST) From: Bradley Be Subject: Re: Dutch(?) Jandek Photography Exhibition. To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 23:56:47.0882 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE445EA0:01C2BDBA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Non-photos... very interesting. There is a corresponding page in english: http://www.mu.nl/exhibitions/now/43-IamAcamara/IamAcamara-eng.html Are there any european listers that can give us a first-hand account of the exhibition? --- Paul Frederick wrote: > http://www.mu.nl/exhibitions/now/43-IamAcamara/IamAcamara.html > > "I Am A Camera" is the title of the photo > exhibition... Can't really make very much sense of > it. > > Anyone able to translate? ===== http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24026 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 05:00:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 05:00:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:51:19 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0H4pIq08599 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:51:18 -0600 Received: (qmail 16893 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 00:38:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 00:38:11 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([216.33.237.47] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:30:17 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:30:16 -0800 Received: from 65.92.20.25 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:30:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.92.20.25] From: "Darin Mitchell" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: HOLY SHIT Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:30:16 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 00:30:16.0686 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B9B88E0:01C2BDBF] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Docu boys, I just watched the trailer ... wow. Amazing. Fucking amazing. You got me for sure. I am dying to see the rest now. So, hurry up! Finish it! Really, I am at a loss for words. This is gonna be really fucking good. M. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24035 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 05:00:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 05:00:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:51:38 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0H4pbj08653 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:51:37 -0600 Received: (qmail 21354 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 03:19:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 03:19:13 -0000 Received: from web41409.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.75]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:15:55 -0600 Message-ID: <20030117031554.48463.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.195] by web41409.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:15:54 PST Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:15:54 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Rain in Cleveland To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030116234754.8170.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 03:15:55.0445 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF91CE50:01C2BDD6] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk dang. my html tags didn't work. sorry. --- Daniel Marks wrote: > I mentioned Jandek being from Ohio. There is a lot > of > proof to back this up. First, the two that Seth > mentions: Chilocothe (former capital), and Governer > Rhodes (former, um, governer). > > Also in his lyrics, he mentions Ohio twice: From > "Wild > Strawberries" in Six and Six: > I'm wondering where > The murdering town > I'm beating a hundred > There's a place you could call me > Out in Ohio > You're down in the numbers > You're listed forty-five > > and again in Left the Beach Last > Sunday"(Nine-Thirty): > > left the beach on last Sunday > I came a long way > >From South Carolina to Ohi-a > Wasn't fussy about the way I came > To me it was all the same > I left the beach on last Sunday > > this explains the lyric later on the album ("Georgia > East") "You people sure are strange to a city boy > from > up north". he means Ohio when he says up north. > > Other proof: Jandek says Nancy was "an Ohio > cosmopolitan hillbilly type who ran across my path > one > day." Her chances of running across his path if > he's > in Texas and she's from Ohio don't seem very high. > and > one more tidbit: there's a woman living in Ohio > named > NANCY JANDEK. yeah. i heard that on this list. so i > think we know where he got his name from. of course, > she's probobly keeping his secret too. > > knowing this explains more about the relationship > between Jandek and Nancy, and explains more about > when > the music was recorded. It seems that he moved to > Texas some time near 1978, this being the latest he > could have started Corwood. In 1980 he said to > Chusid > that he had about 10 albums worth of material, up > to > about Telegraph Melts or Nine-Thirty. > In > the trubee article, written in '85, right before the > release of his 10th album, he was living in a > houston > apartment. Now, in his letter to chusid he says "She > [Nancy] appears on many future cuts" > > The Nancy from Chair Beside a Window stops singing > on > Modern Dances. Now, after Modern > Dances, > we get, surpirse, Blue Corpse. No Nancy, > instead Eddie and a lot of songs about a broken > relationship. Clearly, as Seth said, they've broken > up. > > so from this, we can say two things: either that all > the albums up to Modern Dances were recorded > in > Ohio, in the seventies, or everything up to > Telegraph Melts was done in Ohio, and the > rest > of the Nancy songs were recorded in visits from > Nancy > to Jandek (aka Sterling). This stays consistant with > Eddie, who appears first on Follow Your > Footsteps. I think Eddie is a friend Jandek met > very early in Houston, and who he lost touch with as > he moved to new neighborhoods, and got new jobs. > > So i've constructed a timeline from these > tied-together information fragments. > > 1945-1950: Sterling Smith is Born in Ohio > > Late 60's to late 70's: Smith records everything up > to > Telegraph Melts, essentially the entire Early > period. Somewhere in between, he meets Nancy. > > roughly between 1977-1978: Smith moves to Houston > and > for unknown reasons presses his first album, Ready > for > the House, under the name "Units". He meets Eddie > and > they begin to record together. > > roughly between 1978-1981: Sterling and Nancy break > up, presumably because of long-distance problems, > although he continues to record, including her > visit(s), and is probobly done with Follow Your > Footsteps and preceding albums by 1981. He > breaks > up with Nancy in between and Modern Dances > and > Blue Corpse, possibly halfway through > Modern > Dances. These years are thought of as his "lost > years" but now they seem to make more sense. He > probobly couldn't bring himself to release another > album, or perhaps he just couldn't afford it. He > deals > with his pain through his lyrics, the ultimate > expression of this being Blue Corpse. > > 1981-1986: Sterling begins to release albums again, > but this time with the name changed to Jandek. I > believe that Nancy Jandek is the nancy in question, > and that he picked that name as an ode/spite to her, > in addition to the other Units problem. Also during > this time, he records from You Walk Alone to > possibly > Lost Cause, but maybe something else... > > Basically, Edie leaves...i think after On the Way, > presumably because Jandek moves. Then, after Lost > Cause, he movees again...it get sketchier that and > that is the best I can do for now. > > Of course, i make a lot of barely evidenced > assumptions, but this seems pretty logical to me. > > > One more piece, here are the correct lyrics for the > song, "Nine Thirty", a personal favorite of mine: > > Ol' texaco and seven south > Montague avenue > Red and green and yellow > Two thousand Dorcester > All those white lines > And bumping tires > Keep off the median > There's an air force base > And a whole human race > Moving until tomorrow > > the missing word was "Dorcester", which is an area > near Boston, and apparently some street in the > southeast. > > more to come later, including Sterling's chlidhood > trips to the Fishing town of Point Judith, RI, and > his > infamous trip around the southeast. > > > D.M. > > > > > > > "celebrate out magic!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12565 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 14:51:36 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 14:51:36 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:51:15 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HEpDZ11639 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:51:13 -0600 Received: (qmail 10535 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 13:45:20 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 13:45:20 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:44:46 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0HDiflZ028293 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:44:41 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0HDife4028283; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:44:41 -0600 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:44:40 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: Daniel Marks cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer (and some lyrics from 0758) In-Reply-To: <20030116224857.22421.qmail@web41403.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20030116224857.22421.qmail@web41403.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 13:44:46.0382 (UTC) FILETIME=[98F5E4E0:01C2BE2E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Since some of us cannot get this trailer, can someone describe it? On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Daniel Marks wrote: > That was the msot awesome thing i have ever seen about jandek. no lies. and thats as only two minutes! Some parts were a little cheesy----but necessary for the trailer style. the part at the end though, where jandek blinks, that was amaazingly cool. and the buildup part from "Only Lover" was perfect. In short, i think from seeing this that we can all agree that "Jandek On Corwood" promises to be the definative work on Jandek to this date. I only wish i could have gotten to be interviewed...i missed the dates. i think it would have been cool to have a younger fan's POV. It all reminds me that the real mystery with jandek is not "who?", but "why?" After all, i don't feel like I understand Weezer better because i know that the lead singer went to harvard, or that he keeps a binder of all modern pop songs in an attempt to write the pefect one. Those facts are trivial, just like that Jandek's real name is Sterling R. Smith, or that he grew up in Ohio (fairly obvious in his ref! ern > e! > ces and that nancy was from ohio). That's just not important. what intigues me is what compelled him to make these recordings, why he wrote what he did, the way he did, and where he got the balls to release it. That's what I want to know, and i firmly believe the answers lie in his lyrics. Micheal May (from studio 360), speaking (i think) of this mailing list said "On the internet, fragments of information and song lyrics are exchanged and analysed, as if jandek's music is one big puzzle..."I think it is. other random thoughts. I like seth's "Mike" theory, except there is one problem. At 0:17 in "Today" the one saying "goodnight Mike" is...Mike himself. so i guess his name isn't Mike, but we'll go with it anyway, because he sure isn't Jandek. I listen to some of Telegraph Melts the other day and thoughnt it was pretty weird. Especially "Governer Rhodes". Jandek is doing a strange voice in that song, and he actually sounds more like mike than sterling. which leads me to thi! nk > e! > ither he is really mike, or that mike sings on telegraph melts. Who knows. I've got no idea."Jandek make---Jandek music"D.M. > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12563 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 14:51:36 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 14:51:36 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:50:38 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HEoat11572 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:50:36 -0600 Received: (qmail 2018 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 09:11:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 09:11:14 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.247.166] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 03:05:55 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:05:55 -0800 Received: from 62.96.232.50 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:05:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.96.232.50] From: "Colin Meeder" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Dutch(?) Jandek Photography Exhibition. Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:05:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 09:05:55.0039 (UTC) FILETIME=[A44D8EF0:01C2BE07] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Yeah, it's sort of a collection of egoless outsider photographers -- unpretentiousness and the invisibility of the photographer are sort of the themes of the show. Jandek is one of a bunch of photographers. Colin Meeder Frankfurt am Main >http://www.mu.nl/exhibitions/now/43-IamAcamara/IamAcamara.html > >"I Am A Camera" is the title of the photo exhibition... Can't really make >very much sense of it. > >Anyone able to translate? _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12568 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 14:51:36 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 14:51:36 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:51:29 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HEpSf11665 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:51:28 -0600 Received: (qmail 10720 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 13:53:20 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 13:53:20 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:52:13 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0HDqBlZ029512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:52:11 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0HDqBEu029508; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:52:11 -0600 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:52:11 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: Daniel Marks cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Rain in Cleveland In-Reply-To: <20030116234754.8170.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20030116234754.8170.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 13:52:13.0226 (UTC) FILETIME=[A34CE0A0:01C2BE2F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Fascinating. It's difficult to carry on long-distance relationships. And, if you're motivated it is not difficult to record a large body of work in a fairly short amount of time if you are focused. In 1997 I recorded three 80 minute CDs worth of original material with about another 45-50 minutes of unreleased stuff just messing around. I just used my time efficiently. If you had to move to Texas for a work-related move and didn't know too many people, wouldn't you spend your time on something that was familiar to you? Perhaps he spent a lot of time recording. The use of the name Jandek being a homage to a lost love is incredibly haunting. -t -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14120 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 15:01:36 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 15:01:36 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:56:06 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HEu5h11737 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:56:05 -0600 Received: (qmail 13755 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 14:54:37 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 14:54:37 -0000 Received: from mail7-sh.home.nl ([213.51.128.26] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:53:39 -0600 Received: from cp127068a ([213.51.21.112]) by mail7-sh.home.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09 201-253-122-126-109-20020611) with SMTP id <20030117145338.NLHT5321.mail7-sh.home.nl@cp127068a> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:53:38 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" To: Subject: RE: Dutch(?) Jandek Photography Exhibition. Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:55:29 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2BE40.DC0821A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 14:53:39.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[38C8B980:01C2BE38] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2BE40.DC0821A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm Dutch, so I can tell you what it's all about. It's an exhibition of 'non-photographs', meaning pictures that were taken by accident, by a bunch of different artists. The artists have all been invitited to send in 5 to 10 different photos. One of them is someone named Jandek. I know Danielle Lemaire, one of the people behind the exhibition, so I will e-mail her about this a.s.a.p. Marco -------------------------------------------- www.weirdomusic.com 'Discovering the darkest corners of the musical universe...' -------------------------------------------- want to hear some real weirdomusic? check out www.mp3.com/weirdomusic -------------------------------------------- -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu [mailto:owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu]Namens Paul Frederick Verzonden: vrijdag 17 januari 2003 0:03 Aan: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Onderwerp: Dutch(?) Jandek Photography Exhibition. http://www.mu.nl/exhibitions/now/43-IamAcamara/IamAcamara.html "I Am A Camera" is the title of the photo exhibition... Can't really make very much sense of it. Anyone able to translate? ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2BE40.DC0821A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm=20 Dutch, so I can tell you what it's all about.
It's=20 an exhibition of 'non-photographs', meaning pictures that were taken by=20 accident, by a bunch of different artists. The artists have all been = invitited=20 to send in 5 to 10 different photos.
One of=20 them is someone named Jandek.
I know=20 Danielle Lemaire, one of the people behind the exhibition, so I will = e-mail her=20 about this a.s.a.p.
 
Marco
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu=20 [mailto:owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu]Namens Paul=20 Frederick
Verzonden: vrijdag 17 januari 2003 = 0:03
Aan:=20 jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
Onderwerp: Dutch(?) Jandek = Photography=20 Exhibition.

h= ttp://www.mu.nl/exhibitions/now/43-IamAcamara/IamAcamara.html

= "I=20 Am A Camera" is the title of the photo exhibition...  Can't = really make=20 very much sense of it.

Anyone able to=20 translate?
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2BE40.DC0821A0-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 29429 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 22:06:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 22:06:09 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:05:53 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HM5qv14853 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:05:52 -0600 Received: (qmail 16386 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 16:03:36 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 16:03:36 -0000 Received: from web41408.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.74]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:54:59 -0600 Message-ID: <20030117155458.52133.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.174.99] by web41408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:54:58 PST Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:54:58 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Rain in Cleveland To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030117020647.66828.qmail@mail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 15:54:59.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9B434D0:01C2BE40] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk worry not. this sort of stuff goes in the "Theories/Discussions" section on my site. I try to stay with the facts everywhere else, lest new fans get totally wrong ideas from me, instead of making up their own. and i don't assume anything when reviewing the records... just, "follow the music". i'm not even 50% sure about anything i wrote in "Rain in Cleveland", but it seems to work. "Fans can imagine anything they want about Jandek, because nobody knows who he is." -Kurt Anderson, Studio 360 D.M. --- Joe Henry wrote: > Well Mr. Marks, I admire your creativity and > enthusiasm (and agree about Ohio), but perhaps you > should put a warning on your website: > CONTENTS HEAVILY SPECULATIVE AND OPINIONATIVE. > -- > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 29793 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 22:07:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 22:07:10 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:06:46 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HM6jV14890 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:06:45 -0600 Received: (qmail 17117 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 16:23:48 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 16:23:48 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.37.51] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:23:03 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:17:41 -0800 Received: from 65.214.176.227 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:17:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.214.176.227] From: "brian t" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:17:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 16:17:41.0024 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5792A00:01C2BE43] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I received my 3 jandek cd's from corwood the day before my birthday. the letter I originally sent to jandek/corwood requested 3 jandek cd's one of which must be "electric,rocking and emotive",one of which must be "a new,relevent release" and one of which must be the album "Blue Corpse" my order came. I recieved "Foreign Keys","I Threw You Away", and of course "Blue Corpse" I guess in Jandeks own opinion "foreign keys" is his most rockin release. it features electric guitar on all tracks and drumming. the drummer plays like Moe Tucker with one arm, and most tracks are very repetetive. its almost punk. also most of the tracks towards the end (side 2 on vinyl?) feature a female vocalist ("nancy"). "Blue Corpse" is now my favorite album. the entire album features a dirge-blues guitar style not heard on previous jandek albums. this leads me to believe he used a different guitarist.alot of the songs feature a sort of build up strumming style. this is the first album by jandek not to feature nancy,and the whole album seems to be a sort of "break-up" album,which leads to the popular theory that "jandek" and "nancy"(whoever they are) were involved but they broke up and this album is the result. "I Passed By Your Building" is on here and is my favorite all time jandek song.its also the very first jandek song I ever heard. the lyrics grabbed me,its a sort of universal break up theme.who hasnt been there before? other stand out tracks are "Your Other Man" and the 10 minute long blues-folk epic "Only Lover". I have yet to really get into "I Threw You Away" yet 'cause the whole CD is just 5 really long songs. Jandek had another new release but I guess he felt this one is more important,or he just wants me to buy it later. as usual Jandek/Corwood/Sterling or whoever did not give any written response to my letter. Brian T. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30230 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 22:08:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 22:08:10 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:08:01 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HM7xo14943 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:07:59 -0600 Received: (qmail 19740 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 17:32:50 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 17:32:50 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.79] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:29:23 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:24:04 -0800 Received: from 213.105.178.136 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:24:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.178.136] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: CD exists... Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:24:04 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 17:24:04.0794 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BFC39A0:01C2BE4D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Yup, the On the Way CD does exist as I just got it (and the other new reissues) in the mail. Paul _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30787 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 22:14:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 22:14:09 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:09:28 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HM9R115021 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:09:27 -0600 Received: (qmail 27924 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 21:25:07 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 21:25:07 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:15:08 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0HLF4lZ025569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:15:05 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0HLF4pn025565 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:15:04 -0600 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:15:04 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 21:15:08.0656 (UTC) FILETIME=[837DAF00:01C2BE6D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Jason Cooley asked me to forward this to the list. -- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:39:00 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Cooley To: Todd Madson Subject: Re: Jandek on Corwood -- Movie Trailer It's a very good, very accessible trailer. It plays like a trailer for a mystery movie, which I guess is what it is. It uses Jandek's more quiet, spookier music. It looks like a cross between "Half Japanese: The Band That Would Be King" and "The Blair Witch Project". I'm not kidding. There's one great part where it says something like "32 albums...an obscure record label (shows address in phone book)...this post office box (shows post office box-I thought that was very cool)...and a mystery". I think the only face from the interviewees I recognized was Calvin Johnson's. Is Seth in there? I hope so. The use of the album covers come across like those creepy grainy photos of UFOs or the Loch Ness Monster. Overall it appeals to Jandek fans and probably looks extremely interesting to those who have never heard of him. I can't wait. I was thinking of putting it up on KaZaa...is this okay with the filmmakers? --- Todd Madson wrote: > > Since some of us cannot get this trailer, can > someone describe it? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30792 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 22:14:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 22:14:09 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:08:39 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HM8cp14984 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:08:38 -0600 Received: (qmail 26095 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 20:37:05 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 20:37:05 -0000 Received: from web41407.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.73]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:33:20 -0600 Message-ID: <20030117203319.32152.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.175.203] by web41407.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:33:19 PST Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:33:19 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: ohiooooo To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 20:33:20.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC693480:01C2BE67] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk i found another mention on _Modern Dances_. the song is, "I want to know why" and The other male vocalist says "why-o why-o why-o' and Nancy says "Did i ever leave Ohio?" just thought i'd mention that D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3977 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 00:42:16 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 00:42:16 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:42:07 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0I0g5Q17184 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:42:05 -0600 Received: (qmail 3254 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 00:18:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 00:18:15 -0000 Received: from web41505.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.88]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:11:26 -0600 Message-ID: <20030118001126.46117.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.126.199.89] by web41505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:11:26 PST Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:11:26 -0800 (PST) From: Bradley Be Subject: Jandek 0755-0757 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030117203319.32152.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 00:11:27.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[24B3E660:01C2BE86] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk The latest batch of CD re-issues arrived yesterday. On the Way sounds amazing! Much clearer and deeper sound than my old LP. "I'll sit alone..." in particular is much clearer. The vocalist can actually be heard, and (to me) sounds similar to the "I woke up" vocalist. Of course, this could just be the main "Jandek" vocalist singing with less force than usual; weak warbly falsetto notes instead of the loud strained notes at the top of his vocal range. The On the Way cover pic looks no better than the LP. The Living End cover pic no longer has the background cut away. It looks like he's standing in front of a white-washed fence. I don't really notice any big differences in the Somebody... re-release. I'll post more comments after I get a chance to listen through headphones a few times. Bradley ===== http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14521 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 06:11:22 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 06:11:22 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:02:43 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0I62fh18256 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:02:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 5044 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 01:04:16 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 01:04:16 -0000 Received: from web41409.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.75]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:02:08 -0600 Message-ID: <20030118010207.79437.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.98] by web41409.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:02:07 PST Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:02:07 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Jandek 0755-0757 To: Jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030118001126.46117.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 01:02:08.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[39A00610:01C2BE8D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I'm pretty sure it's eddie singing on "I'll sit alone..." That is, the blue corpse singer. D.M. --- Bradley Be wrote: > The latest batch of CD re-issues arrived yesterday. > > > On the Way sounds amazing! Much clearer and deeper > sound than my old LP. "I'll sit alone..." in > particular is much clearer. The vocalist can > actually > be heard, and (to me) sounds similar to the "I woke > up" vocalist. Of course, this could just be the > main > "Jandek" vocalist singing with less force than > usual; > weak warbly falsetto notes instead of the loud > strained notes at the top of his vocal range. > > The On the Way cover pic looks no better than the > LP. > The Living End cover pic no longer has the > background > cut away. It looks like he's standing in front of a > white-washed fence. > > I don't really notice any big differences in the > Somebody... re-release. I'll post more comments > after > I get a chance to listen through headphones a few > times. > > Bradley > > > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 383 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 16:29:41 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 16:29:41 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:24:19 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IGOIO20859 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:24:18 -0600 Received: (qmail 19255 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 08:57:42 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 08:57:42 -0000 Received: from cassius.its.unimelb.edu.au ([128.250.6.200]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 02:57:04 -0600 Received: from localhost (jdb@localhost) by cassius.its.unimelb.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02742 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:57:03 +1100 (AEDT) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:57:02 +1100 (AEDT) From: Jonathan Benney X-Sender: jdb@cassius.its.unimelb.edu.au To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Janky Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 08:57:05.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[92D33C60:01C2BECF] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk A very brief recommendation: check the front page of http://www.engrish.com/ before the image changes. (It will be archived under "recent discoveries".) Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 6820 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 19:55:31 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 19:55:31 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:55:30 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IJtTL22096 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:55:29 -0600 Received: (qmail 2682 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 17:27:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 17:27:21 -0000 thread-index: AcK/Fts9RudVoOtPQQ6NV8xewuLZqw== Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.8] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:27:20 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 09:21:33 -0800 Received: from 62.221.11.130 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:21:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.221.11.130] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Paul Condon" To: Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: The I none is obtained. Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:21:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 17:21:33.0648 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C4EED00:01C2BF16] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I've been compulsively using Engrish.com's link to Babelfish to translate text into Japanese and then back into English (no excuse). Here's what happens when you do this with "I Ain't Got None" (with added punctuation). Note inexplicable and highly spooky reference to Ohio. It's all coming together and Daniel Marks is the Messiah. The I none is obtained. (1/6) Your mother your daughter being not to take from only her, it meaning that exactly you are lonely and fair. As for the da of the da of the da of the da of the da of the Da... it meaning that your mother takes your daughter from your, it meaning that exactly you are lonely and fair, no of Ohio state. You come... you think you and ask my son here. The I none being obtained I must say to you exactly. The I that none it is obtained, I must say to you,! _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 6965 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 19:55:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 19:55:54 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:55:54 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IJtri22150 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:55:53 -0600 Received: (qmail 3234 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 17:48:30 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 17:48:30 -0000 thread-index: AcK/Gc/dKaAv7kjaSkWiGtmvWux1qw== Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.37.26] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:48:30 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 09:48:29 -0800 Received: from 65.214.176.227 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:48:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.214.176.227] From: "brian t" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: jandek/B-52's? Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:48:29 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Message-ID: Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 17:48:29.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF9CC2C0:01C2BF19] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk the very last song on "Foreign Keys", River to Madrid, is pretty funny. jandek seems to be singing in an almost dead-on impression of B-52's vocalist Fred Schneider.who knew that jandek was a new waver? he even says to nancy before the song "let them start a while, then we'll start" in his Fred Schneider voice.Maybe jandek is just some sort of B-52's side project? brian t. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7045 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 19:56:28 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 19:56:28 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:56:27 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IJuQi22184 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:56:26 -0600 Received: (qmail 4209 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 18:23:16 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 18:23:16 -0000 thread-index: AcK/HqrklAElHplTRpyC67KrAmJoBw== Received: from web12004.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.172.212]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:23:15 -0600 Message-ID: <20030118182311.74477.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.54.37.154] by web12004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:23:11 PST Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:23:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason Cooley" Subject: Jandek On Corwood trailer To: Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 18:23:15.0679 (UTC) FILETIME=[AAE406F0:01C2BF1E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk For those out there who might have Kazaa and not Soulseek I've got it out there right now...Saturday 1:30 in the afternoon... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 8634 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 20:05:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 20:05:15 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:05:15 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IK5E722369 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:05:14 -0600 Received: (qmail 8383 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 20:00:31 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 20:00:31 -0000 thread-index: AcK/LECsdZOIbNB6SiGlkxIXV8P7aw== Received: from web41411.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.77]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:00:30 -0600 Message-ID: <20030118200029.91852.qmail@web41411.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.44] by web41411.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:00:29 PST Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:00:29 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel Marks" Subject: Re: failure delivery Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 20:00:30.0429 (UTC) FILETIME=[40AC38D0:01C2BF2C] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Condon said > Note inexplicable and highly spooky reference to > Ohio. It's all coming > together and Daniel Marks is the Messiah. YES!!!!! heh heh, D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 8717 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 20:05:20 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 20:05:20 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:05:19 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IK5Iw22396 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:05:18 -0600 Received: (qmail 8543 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 20:02:41 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 20:02:41 -0000 thread-index: AcK/LI6AKb8D3y+bSyKPkGB473frCQ== Received: from web41408.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.74]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:02:40 -0600 Message-ID: <20030118200240.8760.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.44] by web41408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:02:40 PST Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:02:40 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel Marks" Subject: Re: jandek/B-52's? Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 20:02:40.0757 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E5AB250:01C2BF2C] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I didn't get that impression when I heard the song---- although that's pretty damn funny. Who knows, we'll get a crazy version of "Private Idaho" on the next release! D.M. --- brian t wrote: > > > the very last song on "Foreign Keys", River to > Madrid, is pretty funny. > jandek seems to be singing in an almost dead-on > impression of B-52's > vocalist Fred Schneider.who knew that jandek was a > new waver? he even says > to nancy before the song "let them start a while, > then we'll start" in his > Fred Schneider voice.Maybe jandek is just some sort > of B-52's side project? > > brian t. > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months > FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 10213 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 20:42:55 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 20:42:55 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:42:55 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IKgrn22543 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:42:53 -0600 Received: (qmail 9665 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 20:25:57 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 20:25:57 -0000 thread-index: AcK/L855Ckq2cd43Q1eE0bDCen/Gww== Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.164]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:25:56 -0600 Received: from SmashBlocked@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.76.28d819e8 (30950) for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:25:51 -0500 (EST) From: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <76.28d819e8.2b5b124e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:25:50 EST Subject: Trailer Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_76.28d819e8.2b5b124e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10638 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 20:25:56.0789 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE744650:01C2BF2F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part1_76.28d819e8.2b5b124e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Goddamn it. I still can't find the trailer. What the fuck is wrong with me? jon! --part1_76.28d819e8.2b5b124e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Goddamn it. 
I still can't find the trailer.
What the fuck is wrong with me?

jon! --part1_76.28d819e8.2b5b124e_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 10508 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 20:43:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 20:43:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:43:13 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IKhC722577 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:43:12 -0600 Received: (qmail 10008 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 20:36:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 20:36:17 -0000 thread-index: AcK/MT/rjwh/Hh1qRr27NP+RV3Wo0g== Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.98]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:36:16 -0600 Received: from SmashBlocked@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.112.1d7f6a7b (30950) for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:36:11 -0500 (EST) From: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <112.1d7f6a7b.2b5b14ba@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:36:10 EST Subject: ? Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_112.1d7f6a7b.2b5b14ba_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10638 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 20:36:16.0617 (UTC) FILETIME=[3FE68590:01C2BF31] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part1_112.1d7f6a7b.2b5b14ba_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Imagine Jandek playing with the Flying Luttenbachers whoa jon! --part1_112.1d7f6a7b.2b5b14ba_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Imagine Jandek playing with the Flying Luttenbachers
whoa

jon! --part1_112.1d7f6a7b.2b5b14ba_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16802 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 21:27:07 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 21:27:07 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:27:07 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0ILR6W24395 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:27:06 -0600 Received: (qmail 16771 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 21:26:49 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 21:26:49 -0000 thread-index: AcK/OE7xxKxiTDz2RO2tNWEaibgD7Q== Received: from web9604.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.129.183]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:26:48 -0600 Message-ID: <20030118212647.47386.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.149.23.218] by web9604.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:26:47 PST Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:26:47 -0800 (PST) From: "David Garrett" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Trailer Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 To: , In-Reply-To: <76.28d819e8.2b5b124e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 21:26:48.0335 (UTC) FILETIME=[4EF1F9F0:01C2BF38] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I'd like directions again, too. Sorry! -JG --- SmashBlocked@aol.com wrote: > Goddamn it. > I still can't find the trailer. > What the fuck is wrong with me? > > jon! > ===== http://www.ma.ultranet.com/~tlclcms/refgall4.htm __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 17245 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 21:30:47 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 21:30:47 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:30:46 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0ILUjs24672 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:30:45 -0600 Received: (qmail 17219 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 21:30:20 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 21:30:20 -0000 thread-index: AcK/OM1O/FGBcZHsQ7m7LJVQsEcIfA== Received: from web12001.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.172.207]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:30:19 -0600 Message-ID: <20030118213019.45259.qmail@web12001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.54.37.154] by web12001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:30:19 PST Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:30:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason Cooley" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Trailer Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 To: "David Garrett" , , In-Reply-To: <20030118212647.47386.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 21:30:20.0023 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD1F0070:01C2BF38] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I've got it up on Kazaa this very minute...otherwise (from a few days ago)... Hello... Still trying to work out the kinks of hosting this trailer somewhere on the internet. In the meantime, I'll share it on soulseek (www.slsk.org) ... Username 'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj' ... the files are named "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 17Mb" and "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 7Mb". The 17Mb file is, predictably, higher quality... but the 7Mb version is more dialup friendly. I certainly hope that you find it worth your time to download. We will shortly have it hosted somewhere.... just trying to give 'the list' first crack at it. Regards, Paul --- David Garrett wrote: > I'd like directions again, too. > Sorry! > -JG > > --- SmashBlocked@aol.com wrote: > > Goddamn it. > > I still can't find the trailer. > > What the fuck is wrong with me? > > > > jon! > > > > > ===== > http://www.ma.ultranet.com/~tlclcms/refgall4.htm > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19460 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 22:30:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 22:30:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:30:13 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IMUC026164 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:30:12 -0600 Received: (qmail 19348 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 22:27:30 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 22:27:30 -0000 thread-index: AcK/QMlfVHaJKgG0QQquPRHuyRBc5A== Received: from app3.nasc.inter.net ([203.176.60.253] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:27:29 -0600 Received: from ip5-200.vancbc01g01.dialup.ca.telus.com ([207.6.106.200] helo=istar.ca) by app3.nasc.inter.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18a1R2-0005Yo-00 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:27:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3E29D465.4050504@istar.ca> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:25:41 -0800 From: "beeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: split a Jandek box? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 22:27:29.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[C95D6AF0:01C2BF40] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk A few year ago I split on a box of Jandek cd's w/someone from this list. I am totally blanking out on who this fine gentleman was (apologies! write and say hi). The time has come for me to git some more Jandek. Does anyone want to split on a box of cd's with me? I don't think the price has gone up (20 for $80). It would be best to have you receive the discs and send my half to a pal in Seattle (I'm in Vancouver) regards, Judith beeman@istar.ca Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 20209 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 22:46:49 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 22:46:49 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:46:49 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IMklh26334 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:46:47 -0600 Received: (qmail 20095 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 22:42:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 22:42:56 -0000 thread-index: AcK/QvEWr95ercMvRpW+9v1YIzy/hw== Received: from web41412.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.78]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:42:55 -0600 Message-ID: <20030118224254.60128.qmail@web41412.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.44] by web41412.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:42:54 PST Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:42:54 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel Marks" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Subject: Re: ? To: In-Reply-To: <112.1d7f6a7b.2b5b14ba@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 22:42:55.0335 (UTC) FILETIME=[F116DF70:01C2BF42] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk My dream---- to be Jndek's backing band, disguised as the Quinn Boys, at his one preformance in a Houston High School auditorium.....it'd be riveting. D.M. --- SmashBlocked@aol.com wrote: > Imagine Jandek playing with the Flying Luttenbachers > > whoa > > jon! > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4392 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 08:43:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 08:43:38 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:43:39 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0J8hc829297 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:43:38 -0600 Received: (qmail 1112 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 06:29:46 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 06:29:46 -0000 thread-index: AcK/hCi5qxyIH72qRgarcY+U2bJ4UA== Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:29:45 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0J6TdlZ000405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:29:39 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0J6TcZN000400; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:29:39 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:29:38 -0600 (CST) From: "Todd Madson" To: "Jason Cooley" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Cc: "David Garrett" , , X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Subject: Re: Trailer In-Reply-To: <20030118213019.45259.qmail@web12001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20030118213019.45259.qmail@web12001.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2003 06:29:45.0881 (UTC) FILETIME=[28AD0090:01C2BF84] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is the problem: "www.sisk.org" comes up as the homepage of a couple named Jason and Theresa. I looked on Kazaa this afternoon and saw Jandek tracks but no Jandek trailer. I have a website I can host the file at which is accessible 24/7. If it's below 100 megs I'd be glad to host the thing. (I see it's 7 megs - no problem for me to host that). -T On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Jason Cooley wrote: > I've got it up on Kazaa this very minute...otherwise > (from a few days ago)... > > Hello... > > Still trying to work out the kinks of hosting this > trailer somewhere on the internet. > > In the meantime, I'll share it on soulseek > (www.slsk.org) ... Username 'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj' ... the > files are named "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 17Mb" > and "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 7Mb". The 17Mb > file is, predictably, higher quality... but the 7Mb > version is more dialup friendly. > > I certainly hope that you find it worth your time to > download. > > We will shortly have it hosted somewhere.... just > trying to give 'the list' first crack at it. > > Regards, > Paul > --- David Garrett wrote: > > I'd like directions again, too. > > Sorry! > > -JG > > > > --- SmashBlocked@aol.com wrote: > > > Goddamn it. > > > I still can't find the trailer. > > > What the fuck is wrong with me? > > > > > > jon! > > > > > > > > > ===== > > http://www.ma.ultranet.com/~tlclcms/refgall4.htm > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > > now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4654 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 08:43:57 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 08:43:57 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:43:58 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0J8hvI29324 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:43:57 -0600 Received: (qmail 2198 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 07:17:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 07:17:52 -0000 thread-index: AcK/iuDpf6sRrTzsRLaRHJxDe5+Jyg== Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 01:17:51 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0J7HmlZ005296 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 01:17:48 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0J7HlQF005292; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 01:17:48 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 01:17:47 -0600 (CST) From: "Todd Madson" To: "Jason Cooley" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Cc: "David Garrett" , , Subject: Re: Trailer In-Reply-To: <20030118213019.45259.qmail@web12001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20030118213019.45259.qmail@web12001.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2003 07:17:51.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[E0D1C0B0:01C2BF8A] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk NEVERMIND! there's a big difference between SLSL and SISK. I suppose I shouldn't have my monitor set to 1280x1024 or whatnot. On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Jason Cooley wrote: > I've got it up on Kazaa this very minute...otherwise > (from a few days ago)... > > Hello... > > Still trying to work out the kinks of hosting this > trailer somewhere on the internet. > > In the meantime, I'll share it on soulseek > (www.slsk.org) ... Username 'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj' ... the > files are named "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 17Mb" > and "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 7Mb". The 17Mb > file is, predictably, higher quality... but the 7Mb > version is more dialup friendly. > > I certainly hope that you find it worth your time to > download. > > We will shortly have it hosted somewhere.... just > trying to give 'the list' first crack at it. > > Regards, > Paul > --- David Garrett wrote: > > I'd like directions again, too. > > Sorry! > > -JG > > > > --- SmashBlocked@aol.com wrote: > > > Goddamn it. > > > I still can't find the trailer. > > > What the fuck is wrong with me? > > > > > > jon! > > > > > > > > > ===== > > http://www.ma.ultranet.com/~tlclcms/refgall4.htm > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > > now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 29808 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 20:41:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 20:41:44 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:39:41 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0JKde808907 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:39:40 -0600 Received: (qmail 5292 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 08:52:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 08:52:19 -0000 thread-index: AcK/mBDrOmEs1lguSf6K95tR1QFBJw== Received: from web41504.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.87]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:52:15 -0600 Message-ID: <20030119085214.10235.qmail@web41504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from [216.190.16.89] by web41504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:52:14 PST Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:52:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Bradley Be" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Subject: Re: Trailer To: "Todd Madson" Cc: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2003 08:52:15.0960 (UTC) FILETIME=[10EB8580:01C2BF98] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Todd Madson wrote: > This is the problem: > "www.sisk.org" comes up as the homepage of a couple > named Jason and > Theresa. It should be SLSK, not SISK... I have the 7MB trailer, and I'll be logged on in a few minutes. Soulseek ID = bradleybee ===== http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30168 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 20:42:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 20:42:44 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:41:50 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0JKfn709021 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:41:49 -0600 Received: (qmail 25920 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 18:04:41 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 18:04:41 -0000 thread-index: AcK/5R4E4iPo6xRZQLmQyks94xssSw== Received: from web41411.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.77]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:03:49 -0600 Message-ID: <20030119180349.46010.qmail@web41411.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from [68.160.172.3] by web41411.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:03:49 PST Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:03:49 -0800 (PST) Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 From: "Daniel Marks" Subject: Re: Trailer To: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2003 18:03:49.0103 (UTC) FILETIME=[1DF867F0:01C2BFE5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Soulseek: It's WWW.SLSK.ORG not WWW.SISK.ORG it's the word, "soulseek" without the vowels. D.M. --- Todd Madson wrote: > This is the problem: > "www.sisk.org" comes up as the homepage of a couple > named Jason and > Theresa. > > I looked on Kazaa this afternoon and saw Jandek > tracks but no Jandek > trailer. > > I have a website I can host the file at which is > accessible 24/7. If > it's below 100 megs I'd be glad to host the thing. > > (I see it's 7 megs - no problem for me to host > that). > > -T > > On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Jason Cooley wrote: > > > I've got it up on Kazaa this very > minute...otherwise > > (from a few days ago)... > > > > Hello... > > > > Still trying to work out the kinks of hosting this > > trailer somewhere on the internet. > > > > In the meantime, I'll share it on soulseek > > (www.slsk.org) ... Username 'jjjjjjjijjjjjjj' ... > the > > files are named "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer > 17Mb" > > and "Jandek on Corwood Movie Trailer 7Mb". The > 17Mb > > file is, predictably, higher quality... but the > 7Mb > > version is more dialup friendly. > > > > I certainly hope that you find it worth your time > to > > download. > > > > We will shortly have it hosted somewhere.... just > > trying to give 'the list' first crack at it. > > > > Regards, > > Paul > > --- David Garrett wrote: > > > I'd like directions again, too. > > > Sorry! > > > -JG > > > > > > --- SmashBlocked@aol.com wrote: > > > > Goddamn it. > > > > I still can't find the trailer. > > > > What the fuck is wrong with me? > > > > > > > > jon! > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > http://www.ma.ultranet.com/~tlclcms/refgall4.htm > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > > > now. > > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > -- __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30171 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 20:42:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 20:42:44 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:41:56 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0JKftV09048 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:41:55 -0600 Received: (qmail 26175 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 18:16:41 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 18:16:41 -0000 thread-index: AcK/5gCHLBrwpe+2SbS+tOAuSHDHCA== Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.103] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:10:09 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:08:07 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from 62.221.11.130 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:08:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.221.11.130] From: "Paul Condon" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 To: Subject: Re: jandek/B-52's? Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:08:07 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2003 18:08:07.0496 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7FC0C80:01C2BFE5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >the very last song on "Foreign Keys", River to Madrid, is pretty funny. >jandek seems to be singing in an almost dead-on impression of B-52's >vocalist Fred Schneider. I didn't think that was Jandek, but maybe one of the other musicians? Reviews of the new reissues are up on the Forced Exposure site. Paul _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9495 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2003 18:08:23 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 20 Jan 2003 18:08:23 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:06:17 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0KI6Gg20203 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:06:16 -0600 Received: (qmail 8394 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2003 17:36:24 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 20 Jan 2003 17:36:24 -0000 thread-index: AcLAqkx4PfY05w/3TZW33CtdGKB/kQ== Received: from mail5-sh.home.nl ([213.51.128.18] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:35:17 -0600 Received: from cp127068a ([213.51.21.112]) by mail5-sh.home.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with SMTP id <20030120173515.ASJ23194.mail5-sh.home.nl@cp127068a> for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:35:15 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" To: Subject: RE: Dutch(?) Jandek Photography Exhibition. Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:37:08 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 In-Reply-To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2003 17:35:17.0956 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C75D840:01C2C0AA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk > http://www.mu.nl/exhibitions/now/43-IamAcamara/IamAcamara.html > "I Am A Camera" is the title of the photo exhibition... Can't really make very much sense of > it. > Anyone able to translate? I asked Danielle Lemaire, one of the people behind the exhibition, if the Jandek in question is "our" Jandek. Her answer: of course it's THE Jandek! So now I'll have to ask her how she got him to participate in the exhibition... And if she ever contacted him or Corwood personnally. Marco -------------------------------------------- www.weirdomusic.com 'Discovering the darkest corners of the musical universe...' -------------------------------------------- want to hear some real weirdomusic? check out www.mp3.com/weirdomusic -------------------------------------------- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 20323 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2003 22:56:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 20 Jan 2003 22:56:13 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:50:21 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0KMoJT24146 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:50:19 -0600 Received: (qmail 19947 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2003 22:47:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 20 Jan 2003 22:47:13 -0000 thread-index: AcLA1cTYLO3Ljn88RMKYhnU4fvb2jg== Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.25] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:46:28 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:43:43 -0800 Received: from 62.254.160.106 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:43:43 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [62.254.160.106] From: "Paul Condon" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 To: Subject: my take on the new cds Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:43:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2003 22:43:43.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[62B68110:01C2C0D5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk "The Humility of Pain" is probably the toughest album yet - "I Threw You Away" was pretty difficult at first but is comparatively structured and measured, and occasionally something that resembles a "hook" emerges that renders the material memorable. Not so with the new one - the playing seems more random, the vocals really drrraaawwwwnnnn ooouuuuttttt... overall it reminds me of "Twelfth Apostle" in its resolute tunelessness. Not suprising that he's sending out "I Threw..." rather than "Humility..." as an example of recent work. As on the title track of "I Threw You Away", "I Want to Look In" and "You Know You Need" revert to the one-handed guitar style. While the lyrics seem less depressed than the previous album, the delivery seems to be pushing the listener away rather than drawing them in. This is an odd approach given the content of the lyrics which often revert to the preachy style of "Worthless Recluse". He seems to be reasserting his desire for a modest existence, and recommending this to others, after venting the pain and failure of "I Threw You Away". "Share My Life" displays a particularly odd juxtaposition of message and delivery. If this is part of one of those series of albums (like Twelfth Apostle-Glad to get Away, or the acapella ones) where Jandek follows a particular direction to its logical (?!) conclusion, it's hard to see what's next. This album's unanswerable questions: is he addressing the listener in "You Know You Need" (as he might have done in previous songs like "What You Are" and "Plenty"?)? Does "I Stepped Out of It" suggest that he's quit the day job? Is his refrigerator broken? "On the Way" is different to what I expected - the first 2 tracks sound like Jandek on his own, then it suddenly goes all Canned Heat. I love the original side 2, but was slightly disappointed the "I'll Sit Alone..." is, as Seth mentioned, "inaudible" due to the drumming rather than by virtue of just being really quiet (like "They Knew My Game"). Notice that Jandek (presumably) insists on drumming when he's not singing or playing guitar - I can't think of a single track that doesn't feature him at all (obviously open to debate). My favourite is "I'm Ready", somewhat reminiscent of mid-70s Neil Young. "The Living End" though in some ways pretty standard fare for this era does feature a couple of standouts like "Licence to Kill", and "Talk That Talk"'s restless collapse into improv. Also amusing how the first 2 tracks share the same riff. "Tell Me Who You Are", "Om" (the most unrepresentative Jandek track ever?) and "Bring It In a Manger" are my favourites from "...Snow", for me a more satisfying album overall. From "Sense of Reason" on it seems to be Jandek overdubbing himself. Finally saw the trailer after wrestling with technology for an hour - fantastic, great use of the music, as well as of the limited available visuals. Paul _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26690 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 01:46:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 01:46:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:45:36 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0L1jZd26339 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:45:35 -0600 Received: (qmail 26633 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 01:45:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 01:45:14 -0000 thread-index: AcLA7rOv3jAvNP8QRFuK+uthBPQo6Q== Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.247.105] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:44:56 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:44:56 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from 65.92.24.231 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:44:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.92.24.231] Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Darin Mitchell" To: , Subject: RE: Dutch(?) Jandek Photography Exhibition. Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:44:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 01:44:56.0202 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3426EA0:01C2C0EE] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This could well prove EXTREMELY interesting. Where them boys with their camera? M. >From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: RE: Dutch(?) Jandek Photography Exhibition. >Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:37:08 +0100 > > > > http://www.mu.nl/exhibitions/now/43-IamAcamara/IamAcamara.html > > "I Am A Camera" is the title of the photo exhibition... Can't really >make >very much sense of > > it. > > Anyone able to translate? > >I asked Danielle Lemaire, one of the people behind the exhibition, if the >Jandek in question is "our" Jandek. Her answer: of course it's THE Jandek! > >So now I'll have to ask her how she got him to participate in the >exhibition... And if she ever contacted him or Corwood personnally. > >Marco > >-------------------------------------------- > www.weirdomusic.com > 'Discovering the darkest corners of > the musical universe...' >-------------------------------------------- > want to hear some real weirdomusic? > check out www.mp3.com/weirdomusic >-------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31010 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 04:03:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 04:03:15 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:59:29 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0L3xR127043 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:59:27 -0600 Received: (qmail 30522 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 03:51:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 03:51:15 -0000 thread-index: AcLBADm0alsVKAvtTQOZYI14MdbGFw== Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.105]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:50:23 -0600 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.1c4.3c56f4a (3972) for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:50:18 -0500 (EST) From: Message-ID: <1c4.3c56f4a.2b5e1d7a@aol.com> Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:50:18 EST Subject: The Jandek Orgy has begun! To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 03:50:23.0179 (UTC) FILETIME=[39AFF9B0:01C2C100] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk 95.3 in Boston, or streaming from whrb.org. Six and Six is beginning right now (10:45pm). Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23037 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 15:33:42 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 15:33:42 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:32:34 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0LFWXO30579 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:32:33 -0600 Received: (qmail 17350 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 12:31:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 12:31:43 -0000 thread-index: AcLBSLX25SwYniNwSCeJyDlAw/AlTQ== Received: from web41403.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.69]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 06:29:15 -0600 Message-ID: <20030121122914.97023.qmail@web41403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.75.154.227] by web41403.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 04:29:14 PST Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 04:29:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel Marks" Subject: (Daniel Was Mentioned) Re: The Jandek Orgy has begun! Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 To: In-Reply-To: <1c4.3c56f4a.2b5e1d7a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 12:29:15.0242 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5D7CCA0:01C2C148] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- NCR13@aol.com wrote: > 95.3 in Boston, or streaming from whrb.org. > Six and Six is beginning right now (10:45pm). I listened to the first three hours of the "orgy", and found the Byron Coley interview to be quite facinating-----partly because the interviewer, (who apparently subscribes to this list) mentioned me. They were talking about album covers, and he said that a lot of people were trying to find out things from the lyrics. "Like a few days ago," he said "Someone on the list came up with this theory the Jandek was from Ohio from clues and references in the lryics...that he recorded everything up to _Telegraph Melts_ on Ohio and that he moved to houston and started playing with this guy named Eddie...and he broke up with Nancy and that's where that depressing spat of albums..." the interviewer seemed to believe my theory, because of how much he had remembered, and also because he seemed to be trying to stay on Coley's terms when he said "but of course it's all speculative." I felt special for a brief moment, my theory having been mentioned. But Coley just laughed a bit, saying "that sounds like a lot of hogwash to me!" Damn. But later he said something else that I found interesting, and which allowed me to forgive him. "Because the music speaks for itself, anything you take from that is valid; it's about what it says to you." True words. But I still think I'm right. D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5885 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 21:14:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 21:14:43 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:09:52 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0LL9p302199 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:09:51 -0600 Received: (qmail 5676 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 21:08:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 21:08:44 -0000 thread-index: AcLBkUgAdoHTsL8tSBGZ6RFbq9tVRw== Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.111] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:07:47 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:03:05 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from 62.254.160.106 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:03:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.254.160.106] Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Paul Condon" To: Cc: Subject: I Passed By the Building... literally Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:03:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_5962_a6d_6bb3" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 21:03:05.0009 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DD0EA10:01C2C190] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_5962_a6d_6bb3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" The (hopefully) attached jpeg was taken by Brian O'Shaughnessy last Saturday while we were at Roman St, Cork city. Some of the houses have been repainted, and the stop light on the left of the picture doesn't appear to be working. The area is also a lot busier than one would expect from the Jandek photo, with a lot of traffic. 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tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0LLYRL02514 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:34:27 -0600 Received: (qmail 7233 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 21:31:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 21:31:44 -0000 thread-index: AcLBlH72lYgvxzp9Tymkzb27YlNhaQ== Received: from web41501.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.84]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:30:16 -0600 Message-ID: <20030121213015.4581.qmail@web41501.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from [208.187.23.218] by web41501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:30:15 PST Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:30:15 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Bradley Be" Subject: Re: I Passed By the Building... literally To: "Paul Condon" Cc: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 21:30:16.0281 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A214490:01C2C194] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Paul Condon wrote: > The (hopefully) attached jpeg was taken by Brian > O'Shaughnessy last Saturday > while we were at Roman St, Cork city. Hillarious!!! He should glue a plaque on the ground, just like they did on that Monty Python TV special: "Jandek CD cover photo taken from this spot, facing an angle ## degrees North, date unknown." ===== http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 8632 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 21:53:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 21:53:43 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:46:38 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0LLkbY02678 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:46:37 -0600 Received: (qmail 8154 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 21:41:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 21:41:43 -0000 thread-index: AcLBleP343lCa28LTLSOpR//+WjXuQ== Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.18.200] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:41:35 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:41:35 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "Paul Frederick" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal To: Subject: Cork Photo Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 14:11:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2C156.F1C39470" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 21:41:35.0302 (UTC) FILETIME=[DEDBA660:01C2C195] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2C156.F1C39470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul, Amazing... wonderful photograph. Spot on. Thanks for sharing ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2C156.F1C39470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Paul,

Amazing... wonderful = photograph. =20 Spot on.

Thanks for sharing
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2C156.F1C39470-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9419 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 00:38:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 00:38:34 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:37:58 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0N0bvF21058 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:37:57 -0600 Received: (qmail 9290 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 00:35:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 00:35:34 -0000 Received: from web41410.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.76]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:35:03 -0600 Message-ID: <20030123003503.76173.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.173.119] by web41410.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:35:03 PST Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:35:03 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: I was wrong To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 00:35:04.0007 (UTC) FILETIME=[4557BD70:01C2C277] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk yeah, i was wrong about the Nancy Jandek woman. I looked it up in the online phone book. She lives in illinois, not Ohio, and she is married, which means she took the name Jandek from her husband. Her entire extended family lives in illinois, so she has probobly been there her whole life. This blows my theory about Smith taking his name from her surname to little bits because she would have had a different name.... or does it? perhaps Mr. Jandek, to whom Nancy Jandek is married, is the "other man" on Blue Corpse and other albums, and he named his project after that in his anger...or maybe Nancy's last name was Corwood!! naw, even i don't believe me this time. Oh well, it was cool while it lasted. D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9977 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 00:43:35 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 00:43:35 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:40:49 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0N0emC21113 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:40:48 -0600 Received: (qmail 9422 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 00:38:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 00:38:34 -0000 Received: from web41411.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.77]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:38:24 -0600 Message-ID: <20030123003823.61480.qmail@web41411.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.173.119] by web41411.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:38:23 PST Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:38:23 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: The Jandek family To: Jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 00:38:24.0414 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCCB6BE0:01C2C277] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk http://teaser.ussearch.com/teaser/teaser.jsp?fc=NRNC2&TID=0&srcAdID=6110004035&sourceid=&searchZip=&searchState=&searchCity=&searchLName=Jandek&searchStreet=&searchFName= there's the link----shows the Jandek Familly from Illinois and one G.A. Jandek living quietly in Florida. "They only grow oranges in Florida" aw, just put 'em in the closet. D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24553 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 20:30:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 20:30:11 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:29:23 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0NKTMf28129 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:29:22 -0600 Received: (qmail 23790 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 20:15:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 20:15:10 -0000 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.5.4]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:09:55 -0600 Received: from asv9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.30]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H960087JO1E4L@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from SAMCOMP (ool-18bc1e12.dyn.optonline.net [24.188.30.18]) by asv9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h0NK9m4B024737 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:09:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:09:53 -0500 From: Sam Subject: I would like to know... To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-id: <002901c2c31b$65147cd0$6801a8c0@SAMCOMP> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20030123003503.76173.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 20:09:57.0231 (UTC) FILETIME=[669417F0:01C2C31B] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Without being rude, I would like to know why you people spend so much of your time looking for the real Jandek. I dont know him; I do know he, or the band, is just a regular person, a human. He is just like you and I. He is also a muscian. A surrealist type muscian who makes strange music. He could be simply making music for fun or release and not want myriads of people (like yourselves) bothering him. Who cares anyway? I like his music, you probably like it too. It doesnt matter who he is or what his deal is. Even if you did find him what would happen? I know, you might find something interesting to discuss on this list instead of the same old who is this guy. This is not a flame. Responses with real answers would be appreciated. -ambience Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25511 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 20:40:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 20:40:10 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:39:11 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0NKdAe28491 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:39:10 -0600 Received: (qmail 25380 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 20:38:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 20:38:11 -0000 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.7]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:37:42 -0600 Received: from Oogsab@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.54.815ff72 (14374) for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:37:37 -0500 (EST) From: Oogsab@aol.com Message-ID: <54.815ff72.2b61ac91@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:37:37 EST Subject: re: I would like to know... To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_54.815ff72.2b61ac91_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10641 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 20:37:42.0892 (UTC) FILETIME=[4763CAC0:01C2C31F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_54.815ff72.2b61ac91_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess it's kind of like the auteur (sorry if I slipped the spelling on that one) theory in studying film... to truly know the meaning of the artwork presented, one must also know the background of the one(s) responsible for it... otherwise you're too far removed from the source to appreciate the given stream... or something to that effect... --part1_54.815ff72.2b61ac91_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess it's kind of like the auteur (sorry if I slipped the spelling on that one) theory in studying film... to truly know the meaning of the artwork presented, one must also know the background of the one(s) responsible for it... otherwise you're too far removed from the source to appreciate the given stream... or something to that effect...

 --part1_54.815ff72.2b61ac91_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26283 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 20:49:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 20:49:11 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:49:08 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0NKn8l28685 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:49:08 -0600 Received: (qmail 26198 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 20:48:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 20:48:11 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:43:44 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0NKhflZ011728 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:43:41 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0NKheX3011722; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:43:41 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:43:40 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: Sam cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: I would like to know... In-Reply-To: <002901c2c31b$65147cd0$6801a8c0@SAMCOMP> Message-ID: References: <20030123003503.76173.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> <002901c2c31b$65147cd0$6801a8c0@SAMCOMP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 20:43:44.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[1EE7E940:01C2C320] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Sam: It's not unlike trying to find out if Paul McCartney is REALLY the Fireman, or who was really in the 80s "secret" group Blanket of Secrecy (who put out "Ears Have Walls" and vanished). To quote the man himself "A little mystery goes a long way sometimes." Whenever a CD comes out with sparse or minimal credits or no info on who performed it, human curiosity takes over and wonders who might be responsible, especially if the content is compelling. What makes Jandek a little different is that he just keeps on putting out product. There's really nothing more than a name, the songs, and the pictures and nothing else. No interviews or live shows, just what you see/hear. And year after year, like clockwork a new release. Many established groups don't have his track record. And you may very well have hit the nail on the head: corporate career by day, musician by night - why mix the two or talk about it? In some corporate environments, having a "creative outlet" might be seen as a bad thing by upper management types. In other words, you are not focusing on your career, you're focusing on doing your music thing on the side (well, that's what I do anyway). -t On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Sam wrote: > Without being rude, I would like to know why you people spend so much of > your time looking for the real Jandek. I dont know him; I do know he, or the > band, is just a regular person, a human. He is just like you and I. He is > also a muscian. A surrealist type muscian who makes strange music. He could > be simply making music for fun or release and not want myriads of people > (like yourselves) bothering him. Who cares anyway? I like his music, you > probably like it too. It doesnt matter who he is or what his deal is. Even > if you did find him what would happen? I know, you might find something > interesting to discuss on this list instead of the same old who is this guy. > > This is not a flame. > Responses with real answers would be appreciated. > > -ambience > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30110 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 22:11:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 22:11:11 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:10:26 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0NMAP529210 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:10:25 -0600 Received: (qmail 27686 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 21:11:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 21:11:12 -0000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.39]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:10:41 -0600 Received: from Anatole40@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.19e.fc76944 (15877) for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-m16.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.132]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINID74-0123161028; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:10:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:10:28 -0500 From: Anatole40@aol.com To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: re: I would like to know... MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <230D74E8.676AA0B2.022486B0@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 21:10:41.0239 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2939670:01C2C323] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that Jandek's self-created mystery elicits the normal human response of curiosity. Most fans appear to be respectful of the distance he wishes to keep from his audience, but just because we're not into stalking him and digging through his trash shouldn't preclude some degree of speculation about the man who makes the music. James Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31231 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 22:28:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 22:28:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:27:37 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0NMRaZ29479 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:27:36 -0600 Received: (qmail 31078 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 22:25:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 22:25:13 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.135] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:24:23 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:19:21 -0800 Received: from 213.105.181.208 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:19:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.181.208] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: I would like to know... Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:19:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 22:19:21.0478 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A6E2A60:01C2C32D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Personally, I have my own ideas and theories about Jandek's background which may be correct or incorrect, but for me, and I suspect for most fans, the main focus of interest is the art. It would be virtually impossible not to be curious about what lies behind the work (and who) given the mysterious presentation as well as the deeply personal nature of it. I wouldn't have posted the jpeg of the "I threw you away" location if I had any reason to believe this was in any way an invasion of privacy. As regards this list, I've also noticed a recent shift away from attempts to "track down" Jandek and more of an appreciation of his methods in terms of the overall aesthetic. I also think that the relatively inaccessability and unreducable nature of his music (as compared to mainstream popular culture) acts as a guard against amoral investigative journalism. So we may theorise/gossip a little bit, but anyone who really appreciates the music won't be hanging around the Corwood PO box. - Paul _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31234 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 22:28:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 22:28:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:27:46 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0NMRjJ29512 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:27:45 -0600 Received: (qmail 31078 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 22:25:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 22:25:13 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.135] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:24:23 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:19:21 -0800 Received: from 213.105.181.208 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:19:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.181.208] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: I would like to know... Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:19:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 22:19:21.0478 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A6E2A60:01C2C32D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Personally, I have my own ideas and theories about Jandek's background which may be correct or incorrect, but for me, and I suspect for most fans, the main focus of interest is the art. It would be virtually impossible not to be curious about what lies behind the work (and who) given the mysterious presentation as well as the deeply personal nature of it. I wouldn't have posted the jpeg of the "I threw you away" location if I had any reason to believe this was in any way an invasion of privacy. As regards this list, I've also noticed a recent shift away from attempts to "track down" Jandek and more of an appreciation of his methods in terms of the overall aesthetic. I also think that the relatively inaccessability and unreducable nature of his music (as compared to mainstream popular culture) acts as a guard against amoral investigative journalism. So we may theorise/gossip a little bit, but anyone who really appreciates the music won't be hanging around the Corwood PO box. - Paul _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 1635 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 23:04:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 23:04:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:03:50 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0NN3no30334 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:03:49 -0600 Received: (qmail 1556 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 23:03:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 23:03:12 -0000 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:02:29 -0600 Received: from Soundsofcolor@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.197.146f347d (15862) for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-m29.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINID61-0123180220; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:02:20 1900 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:02:20 -0500 From: Soundsofcolor@aol.com To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: re: i would like to know MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0CAA31D4.0273192E.4EC2D378@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 23:02:29.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[812CCAE0:01C2C333] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk to be honest, i dont think i would ever want to find out who jandek is. likewise, he probably wouldnt want me to either. dont get me wrong, guessing at the person behind the noise is exciting, but only because the mystery is intriguing. half of the reason i like jandek is the mystery. the other half would be music. without the mystery i wouldnt enjoy the music as much and without the music i wouldnt enjoy the mystery. the two kind of go hand in hand. as for the "real" meaning behind everything... i think some people (side note: phrases like "you people" arent always comforting and can provoke a negative response. remember - we are all on the same list together because we have something in common.) read into the music a little too much (relatively). reading so much into something, for me, takes away from the personal aspect of creating music. i think it is safe to say that when it comes to jandek's music, his lyrics, and the other people involved with which, a+b doesnt always have to equal c. references to ohio dont always mean he grew up there. maybe sometimes they do and other times they dont. as far as truly appreciating the artwork at hand - i dont think that necessarily applies to jandek either. it is impossible to know the "true meaning" behind jandek. mainly because it is impossible to know the "background". i think that it is this that makes most people appreciative of the "artwork" at hand, if you will. of course, the anonymity of the whole deal will continue to intrigue questions and provoke curiosity far beyond the norm, i think i can comfortably say that i do not have any conclusions about jandek except that i cant come to any conclusions, and prefer not to. --                                      if it was black,                           i probably painted it white                                      and danced on it Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3839 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 23:47:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 23:47:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:41:08 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0NNf7630811 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:41:07 -0600 Received: (qmail 2863 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2003 23:25:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2003 23:25:12 -0000 Received: from web41405.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.71]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:23:43 -0600 Message-ID: <20030123232343.98527.qmail@web41405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.217] by web41405.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:23:43 PST Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:23:43 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: re: I would like to know... To: Jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <230D74E8.676AA0B2.022486B0@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 23:23:43.0937 (UTC) FILETIME=[78A2A310:01C2C336] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk The search for information on jandek for me is only in the vein of things that we would find useful in understanding the music. Once in school I wrote an essay about "The Sun Also Rises" knowing little to nothing about Ernest Hemingway's life. I took the book at face value and was entirely wrong in my interpretation of it. The teacher told me it was mostly about his life, and without knowing that, it could be difficult to pick up on what he was thinking; on the true intention of the novel. Such is the case with Jandek. I enjoyed "The Sun Also Rises" a lot without knowing what it really meant, and found a new appriciation of it by understanding then author's intentions. But with Jandek, we'll never be sure of the author's intention, except, as he said to Katy Vine, that there is none. I can't believe that for a moment. Even absurdist plays such as "Waiting for Godot" have an intention, even if it is to present something with no intention. Sounds confusing? That's art. We can enjoy the music on its own, but knowing a bit more about Sterling Smith's(or whomever it may be) life and times would bring a new level of aprication and understanding, and would, at least for me, make the music all that better. So that's why we search for clues. To understand the music. Knowing for instance, where Jandek works, what his address is, whether he prefers boxers or briefs, etc, won't help us understand his music. But what provoked him to write Blue Corpse...that would be something I'd like to find out. It's all about the music. That's why I make my theories... to put it in a perspective. "You're the reason I live/You're the cause of my death" -Only Lover D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5673 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 00:21:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 00:21:11 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:11:58 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0O0BvT31318 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:11:57 -0600 Received: (qmail 5288 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 00:09:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 00:09:11 -0000 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.34]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:08:55 -0600 Received: from AKelly1971@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.41.2a0ba0b0 (30950) for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:08:49 -0500 (EST) From: AKelly1971@aol.com Message-ID: <41.2a0ba0b0.2b61de11@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:08:49 EST Subject: Re: I would like to know... To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_41.2a0ba0b0.2b61de11_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10630 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 00:08:55.0436 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8D08CC0:01C2C33C] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_41.2a0ba0b0.2b61de11_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's a related thought... In an interview I read earlier today with the actor John Cusack, he talks about aesthetics: "There's a wonderful book called "The Rites of Spring: The Great War and the Birth of the Modern Age" by Modris Eksteins which defines kitsch as easy beauty without consequences, superficiality. But when applied to politics and taken to its extreme, he says, kitsch is the mask of death. Fascism was all aesthetics. ...... When aesthetics become an end in themselves, you have kitsch, this sentimental vision with no ballast. Kitsch is more dangerous than it looks when taken to the extreme." To me, the music of Jandek is the antithesis of kitsch. There's so much raw feeling and such depth of emotion, of isolation, of longing, of joy in the music that whoever is behind it is intriguing by virtue of his artistic output -- even more so because of the mystery behind his identity, motives, etc. I don't generally enter into the discussions or speculations on Jandek, but I do find them interesting to consider. Knowledge of his background could aid in interpretation of understanding of the music, as Daniel Marks pointed out, or it could be totally irrelevant. Whatever the case, I'm just glad he's out there making music and sharing it with us all. Amy p.s. Here's the link to the interview, if you're interested: http://www.beliefnet.com/frameset.asp?pageLoc=/story/120/story_12015_1.html& boardID=50671 --part1_41.2a0ba0b0.2b61de11_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's a related thought... 

In an interview I read earlier today with the actor John Cusack, he talks about aesthetics:

"There's a wonderful book called "The Rites of Spring: The Great War and the Birth of the Modern Age" by Modris Eksteins which defines kitsch as easy beauty without consequences, superficiality. But when applied to politics and taken to its extreme, he says, kitsch is the mask of death. Fascism was all aesthetics. ...... When aesthetics become an end in themselves, you have kitsch, this sentimental vision with no ballast. Kitsch is more dangerous than it looks when taken to the extreme."

To me, the music of Jandek is the antithesis of kitsch.  There's so much raw feeling and such depth of emotion, of isolation, of longing, of joy in the music that whoever is behind it is intriguing by virtue of his artistic output -- even more so because of the mystery behind his identity, motives, etc.  I don't generally enter into the discussions or speculations on Jandek, but I do find them interesting to consider.  Knowledge of his background could aid in interpretation of understanding of the music, as Daniel Marks pointed out, or it could be totally irrelevant.  Whatever the case, I'm just glad he's out there making music and sharing it with us all.

Amy

p.s.  Here's the link to the interview, if you're interested: http://www.beliefnet.com/frameset.asp?pageLoc=/story/120/story_12015_1.html&boardID=50671





 --part1_41.2a0ba0b0.2b61de11_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 6115 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 00:23:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 00:23:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:22:41 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0O0MeV31473 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:22:40 -0600 Received: (qmail 5699 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 00:21:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 00:21:13 -0000 Received: from web41411.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.77]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:12:27 -0600 Message-ID: <20030124001226.12459.qmail@web41411.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.217] by web41411.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:12:26 PST Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:12:26 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: re: i would like to know To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <0CAA31D4.0273192E.4EC2D378@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 00:12:27.0669 (UTC) FILETIME=[4750BC50:01C2C33D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk woah.....was i just slagged there??? >"i think some people...read into the music a little >too much" yup. talkin' 'bout me. > i think it is safe to say that when it comes to >jandek's music, his lyrics, and the other people >involved with which, a+b doesnt always have to equal c. > references to ohio dont always mean he grew up > there. maybe sometimes they do and other times they > dont. ouch. I find that reading into the music makes it even more mysterious and entertaining. We just don't agree there. Well, point taken anyway. I never said i was certain about Ohio, or that those lyrics are a sure fire way to prove anything. But had i told you all that when i wrote the theory, it would have seemed quite watered down and inconclusive. But since inconclusion is the name of the Jandek game, i can say i don't really believe my own theories too strongly... i just like coming up with them and finding a little "proof" to back it up. He most likely didn't grow up in Ohio, that's really pushing it. but i am absolutlely sure he spent some time there...I fact, it makes a lot more sense to say that he went to college there. Nancy, a college girlfriend? That's even better! and that's where he got into college radio!! Granted, this sort of thing adds little to our understanding of the music, but i think the speculation is a lot of fun. So many things he could be....so many stories that could be told...To me it's a paint by numbers... without the numbers. Just wavy shapes. You can leave those shapes alone and take it for what it is, or you can paint it with what you think are the right numbers... and in the end you're always right, because there were no directions. Or maybe you're always wrong. Either way, while a+b doesn't always equal c, it must equal something...it wouldn't be an equation if it didn't. You may say that analysation ruins the music, but I think it makes it better. It doesn't matter how you see it, as long as you're a fan, you're alright with me. In the end we're all just a floatin' down a river to Madrid. D.M. --- Soundsofcolor@aol.com wrote: > to be honest, i dont think i would ever want to find > out who jandek is. likewise, he probably wouldnt > want me to either. dont get me wrong, guessing at > the person behind the noise is exciting, but only > because the mystery is intriguing. half of the > reason i like jandek is the mystery. the other half > would be music. without the mystery i wouldnt enjoy > the music as much and without the music i wouldnt > enjoy the mystery. the two kind of go hand in hand. > as for the "real" meaning behind everything... > i think some people (side note: phrases like "you > people" arent always comforting and can provoke a > negative response. remember - we are all on the same > list together because we have something in common.) > read into the music a little too much (relatively). > reading so much into something, for me, takes away > from the personal aspect of creating music. i think > it is safe to say that when it comes to jandek's > music, his lyrics, and the other people involved > with which, a+b doesnt always have to equal c. > references to ohio dont always mean he grew up > there. maybe sometimes they do and other times they > dont. > as far as truly appreciating the artwork at hand - i > dont think that necessarily applies to jandek > either. it is impossible to know the "true meaning" > behind jandek. mainly because it is impossible to > know the "background". i think that it is this that > makes most people appreciative of the "artwork" at > hand, if you will. > of course, the anonymity of the whole deal will > continue to intrigue questions and provoke curiosity > far beyond the norm, i think i can comfortably say > that i do not have any conclusions about jandek > except that i cant come to any conclusions, and > prefer not to. > > > > -- >                                      if it was > black, >                           i probably painted it > white >                                      and danced on it __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 8310 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 01:10:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 01:10:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:09:25 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0O19OJ31961 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:09:24 -0600 Received: (qmail 8207 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 01:08:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 01:08:11 -0000 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.8]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:02:09 -0600 Received: from Soundsofcolor@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.12.2c1770df (3874) for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:01:58 -0500 (EST) From: Soundsofcolor@aol.com Message-ID: <12.2c1770df.2b61ea86@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:01:58 EST Subject: re: To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12.2c1770df.2b61ea86_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10638 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 01:02:09.0900 (UTC) FILETIME=[38DD12C0:01C2C344] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_12.2c1770df.2b61ea86_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit please disregard my last email to the list. i obviously failed miserably at trying to get my point across. thanks if it was black i probably painted it white and danced on it woah.....was i just slagged there??? >"i think some people...read into the music a little >too much" yup. talkin' 'bout me. > i think it is safe to say that when it comes to >jandek's music, his lyrics, and the other people >involved with which, a+b doesnt always have to equal c. > references to ohio dont always mean he grew up > there. maybe sometimes they do and other times they > dont. ouch. I find that reading into the music makes it even more mysterious and entertaining. We just don't agree there. Well, point taken anyway. I never said i was certain about Ohio, or that those lyrics are a sure fire way to prove anything. But had i told you all that when i wrote the theory, it would have seemed quite watered down and inconclusive. But since inconclusion is the name of the Jandek game, i can say i don't really believe my own theories too strongly... i just like coming up with them and finding a little "proof" to back it up. He most likely didn't grow up in Ohio, that's really pushing it. but i am absolutlely sure he spent some time there...I fact, it makes a lot more sense to say that he went to college there. Nancy, a college girlfriend? That's even better! and that's where he got into college radio!! Granted, this sort of thing adds little to our understanding of the music, but i think the speculation is a lot of fun. So many things he could be....so many stories that could be told...To me it's a paint by numbers... without the numbers. Just wavy shapes. You can leave those shapes alone and take it for what it is, or you can paint it with what you think are the right numbers... and in the end you're always right, because there were no directions. Or maybe you're always wrong. Either way, while a+b doesn't always equal c, it must equal something...it wouldn't be an equation if it didn't. You may say that analysation ruins the music, but I think it makes it better. It doesn't matter how you see it, as long as you're a fan, you're alright with me. In the end we're all just a floatin' down a river to Madrid. --part1_12.2c1770df.2b61ea86_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit please disregard my last email to the list. i obviously failed miserably at trying to get my point across.

thanks



if it was black
i probably painted it white
and danced on it





woah.....was i just slagged there???

>"i think some people...read into the music a little
>too much"

yup. talkin' 'bout me.

> i think it is safe to say that when it comes to
>jandek's music, his lyrics, and the other people
>involved with which, a+b doesnt always have to equal
c.
> references to ohio dont always mean he grew up
> there. maybe sometimes they do and other times they
> dont.

ouch. I find that reading into the music makes it even
more mysterious and entertaining. We just don't agree
there. Well, point taken anyway. I never said i was
certain about Ohio, or that those lyrics are a sure
fire way to prove anything. But had i told you all
that when i wrote the theory, it would have seemed
quite watered down and inconclusive. But since
inconclusion is the name of the Jandek game, i can say
i don't really believe my own theories too strongly...
i just like coming up with them and finding a little
"proof" to back it up.

He most likely didn't grow up in Ohio, that's really
pushing it. but i am absolutlely sure he spent some
time there...I fact, it makes a lot more sense to say
that he went to college there. Nancy, a college
girlfriend? That's even better! and that's where he
got into college radio!!

Granted, this sort of thing adds little to our
understanding of the music, but i think the
speculation is a lot of fun. So many things he could
be....so many stories that could be told...To me it's
a paint by numbers... without the numbers. Just wavy
shapes. You can leave those shapes alone and take it
for what it is, or you can paint it with what you
think are the right numbers... and in the end you're
always right, because there were no directions.

Or maybe you're always wrong. Either way, while a+b
doesn't always equal c, it must equal something...it
wouldn't be an equation if it didn't. You may say that
analysation ruins the music, but I think it makes it
better. It doesn't matter how you see it, as long as
you're a fan, you're alright with me.

In the end we're all just a floatin' down a river to
Madrid.

--part1_12.2c1770df.2b61ea86_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15589 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 05:07:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 05:07:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:02:15 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0O52DL00507 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:02:13 -0600 Received: (qmail 9348 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 01:31:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 01:31:10 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([216.33.240.145] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:30:22 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:30:22 -0800 Received: from 64.40.52.86 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:30:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.40.52.86] From: "aerick duckhugger" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: re: i would like to know Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:30:22 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 01:30:22.0362 (UTC) FILETIME=[29A647A0:01C2C348] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Personally.. I think that one's sense of place and region add a hell of alot to one's art or music... and thus... If we can glean some understanding of the larger spectrum of Jandek's own sense of place... as Daniel Marks seems to be attempting to do in his theory crafting.. then perhaps we can appreciate his music all the more. Just a thought. -Aerick "aSMm" Duckhugger ----Original Message Follows---- From: Daniel Marks To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: re: i would like to know Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:12:26 -0800 (PST) woah.....was i just slagged there??? >"i think some people...read into the music a little >too much" yup. talkin' 'bout me. > i think it is safe to say that when it comes to >jandek's music, his lyrics, and the other people >involved with which, a+b doesnt always have to equal c. > references to ohio dont always mean he grew up > there. maybe sometimes they do and other times they > dont. ouch. I find that reading into the music makes it even more mysterious and entertaining. We just don't agree there. Well, point taken anyway. I never said i was certain about Ohio, or that those lyrics are a sure fire way to prove anything. But had i told you all that when i wrote the theory, it would have seemed quite watered down and inconclusive. But since inconclusion is the name of the Jandek game, i can say i don't really believe my own theories too strongly... i just like coming up with them and finding a little "proof" to back it up. He most likely didn't grow up in Ohio, that's really pushing it. but i am absolutlely sure he spent some time there...I fact, it makes a lot more sense to say that he went to college there. Nancy, a college girlfriend? That's even better! and that's where he got into college radio!! Granted, this sort of thing adds little to our understanding of the music, but i think the speculation is a lot of fun. So many things he could be....so many stories that could be told...To me it's a paint by numbers... without the numbers. Just wavy shapes. You can leave those shapes alone and take it for what it is, or you can paint it with what you think are the right numbers... and in the end you're always right, because there were no directions. Or maybe you're always wrong. Either way, while a+b doesn't always equal c, it must equal something...it wouldn't be an equation if it didn't. You may say that analysation ruins the music, but I think it makes it better. It doesn't matter how you see it, as long as you're a fan, you're alright with me. In the end we're all just a floatin' down a river to Madrid. D.M. --- Soundsofcolor@aol.com wrote: > to be honest, i dont think i would ever want to find > out who jandek is. likewise, he probably wouldnt > want me to either. dont get me wrong, guessing at > the person behind the noise is exciting, but only > because the mystery is intriguing. half of the > reason i like jandek is the mystery. the other half > would be music. without the mystery i wouldnt enjoy > the music as much and without the music i wouldnt > enjoy the mystery. the two kind of go hand in hand. > as for the "real" meaning behind everything... > i think some people (side note: phrases like "you > people" arent always comforting and can provoke a > negative response. remember - we are all on the same > list together because we have something in common.) > read into the music a little too much (relatively). > reading so much into something, for me, takes away > from the personal aspect of creating music. i think > it is safe to say that when it comes to jandek's > music, his lyrics, and the other people involved > with which, a+b doesnt always have to equal c. > references to ohio dont always mean he grew up > there. maybe sometimes they do and other times they > dont. > as far as truly appreciating the artwork at hand - i > dont think that necessarily applies to jandek > either. it is impossible to know the "true meaning" > behind jandek. mainly because it is impossible to > know the "background". i think that it is this that > makes most people appreciative of the "artwork" at > hand, if you will. > of course, the anonymity of the whole deal will > continue to intrigue questions and provoke curiosity > far beyond the norm, i think i can comfortably say > that i do not have any conclusions about jandek > except that i cant come to any conclusions, and > prefer not to. > > > > -- > if it was > black, > i probably painted it > white > and danced on it __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15593 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 05:07:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 05:07:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:03:27 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0O53Qi00558 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:03:26 -0600 Received: (qmail 11536 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 02:41:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 02:41:12 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.21.38] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:31:29 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:31:29 -0800 Received: from 4.60.185.191 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:31:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "john brown" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Cc: ambience@optionline.net Subject: Jandek -- Re: I would like to know Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:31:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 02:31:29.0079 (UTC) FILETIME=[B32EE470:01C2C350] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk
>>Without being rude, I would like to know why you people spend
>>so much of your time looking for the real Jandek.

Where did you get the idea that anyone here spent a lot of time "looking for the real Jandek" ?

>>I dont know him; I do know he, or the
>>band, is just a regular person, a human.

There's no way you know that. 

>>He is just like you and I.

That's... probably pretty "not true"...

>>A surrealist type muscian who makes strange music.

A connection between Jandek's music and surrealism would be very specious.  I don't think you know what you're talking about.

>>He could be simply making music for fun or release

You know what... he could be... that's a really refreshing and "new" way of looking at it.  You've come up with something very pithy.

NOW STOP SPENDING SO MUCH TIME TRYING TO FIND THE "REAL" JANDEK.

>>and n! ot want myriads of people
>>(like yourselves) bothering him.

Where do you get this?  Do you have some info about someone bothering him?  I don't know of that happening... especially from this list. 

>>Who cares anyway?

Lots of people.

>>It doesnt matter who he is or what his deal is.

Yes it does.

>>Even if you did find him what would happen?

NO ONE ON THIS LIST IS ACTIVELY SEARCHING FOR FACE TO FACE CONTACT WITH JANDEK.  I don't know why you've deluded yourself into believing this.

If someone were to want to do this... it would be ridiculously easy.  The fact that it doesn't happen with any regularity is proof of our collective lack of intent.

>>discuss on this list instead of the same old who is this guy.

The "same old who is this guy" discussions account for fewer than 5% of the discussions on this list.

You seem stupid,
John


MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4638 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 15:27:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 15:27:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:26:41 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OFQe203845 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:26:40 -0600 Received: (qmail 20885 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 06:59:16 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 06:59:16 -0000 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.42]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:57:51 -0600 Received: from Jwmojohand@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.f5.2882ae27 (4320) for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:57:45 -0500 (EST) From: Jwmojohand@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:57:44 EST Subject: Re: I would like to know... To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f5.2882ae27.2b623de8_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 8.0 for Windows US sub 230 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 06:57:51.0208 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9463E80:01C2C375] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_f5.2882ae27.2b623de8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oogsab@aol.com wrote: "I guess it's kind of like the auteur (sorry if I slipped the spelling on that one) theory in studying film... to truly know the meaning of the artwork presented, one must also know the background of the one(s) responsible for it... otherwise you're too far removed from the source to appreciate the given stream... or something to that effect..." The auteur notion is surely central to the love of Jandek. He has created a body of work that is as free from the trappings of the auteur theory as anyone else I can think of. What artist has been more obscure, in terms of personal details? He provides an answer to a theoretical question within auteur theory: what if we knew nary a thing about the artist? Less than we know about Robert Johnson? What if the text itself was IT? Perhaps "There's nothing to get," meant "I am not the point here. Don't try to "get" me. Just go after the records and only the records." Of course knowing Nancy's role in his life would help decipher the songs. As would info about his education, job, hobbies, etc. But it would just chuck Jandek onto the pile of all the other auteurs. For now, his work stands on its own, and that's unique. As for the personal dish on the cat, I'm more into the recent "Ohio theory," which is based solely within the text. Fearing that he's likely some Sterling Smith, possible wine-tasting club member and possibly-corporate guy in Houston, well, that is more than I ever wanted to know. I kind of cling to the fact that somehow it might be wrong anyway. I know a guy who's slightly "special," and he puts out these crazy cds of his music, and he has a website and PO Box. He has a caretaker, with a job and a normal life, who has the cds made, operates the website, and owns the PO Box. If someone were to research who the artist was, the answer would point to the normal dude, who's name is on the stuff. Maybe Sterling is a brother or friend of Jandek. I also hope that since everyone can hop on a computer nowadays, that Jandek is indeed a member of this list. He's into it enough to put out the CDs, so why the heck wouldn't he want to know how they were going over? -- Wishing the 'dek and everyone else a good day, Jack Walton --part1_f5.2882ae27.2b623de8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oogsab@aol.com wrote: "I guess it's kind of like the auteur (sorry if I slipped the spelling on that one) theory in studying film... to truly know the meaning of the artwork presented, one must also know the background of the one(s) responsible for it... otherwise you're too far removed from the source to appreciate the given stream... or something to that effect..."

          The auteur notion is surely central to the love of Jandek. He has created a body of work that is as free from the trappings of the auteur theory as anyone else I can think of. What artist has been more obscure, in terms of personal details? He provides an answer to a theoretical question within auteur theory: what if we knew nary a thing about the artist? Less than we know about Robert Johnson? What if the text itself was IT? Perhaps "There's nothing to get," meant "I am not the point here. Don't try to "get" me. Just go after the records and only the records."
          Of course knowing Nancy's role in his life would help decipher the songs. As would info about his education, job, hobbies, etc. But it would just chuck Jandek onto the pile of all the other auteurs. For now, his work stands on its own, and that's unique. As for the personal dish on the cat, I'm more into the recent "Ohio theory," which is based solely within the text.
           Fearing that he's likely some Sterling Smith, possible wine-tasting club member and possibly-corporate guy in Houston, well, that is more than I ever wanted to know. I kind of cling to the fact that somehow it might be wrong anyway. I know a guy who's slightly "special," and he puts out these crazy cds of his music, and he has a website and PO Box. He has a caretaker, with a job and a normal life, who has the cds made, operates the website, and owns the PO Box. If someone were to research who the artist was, the answer would point to the normal dude, who's name is on the stuff. Maybe Sterling is a brother or friend of Jandek.

        I also hope that since everyone can hop on a computer nowadays, that Jandek is indeed a member of this list. He's into it enough to put out the CDs, so why the heck wouldn't he want to know how they were going over?  --
                           
               Wishing the 'dek and everyone else a good day,      Jack Walton       --part1_f5.2882ae27.2b623de8_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4641 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 15:27:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 15:27:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:27:12 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OFRBt03946 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:27:11 -0600 Received: (qmail 31478 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 12:11:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 12:11:13 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:05:29 -0600 Received: (qmail 8207 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 12:05:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by spf1.us.outblaze.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2003 12:05:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 95296 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 12:05:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.37) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 12:05:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 78337 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Jan 2003 12:05:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20030124120527.78336.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:05:27 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:05:27 -0500 Subject: this whole "mystery vs. music" debate X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 12:05:29.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[E33992A0:01C2C3A0] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk If you look in the archives of this list (which are on Seth Tisue's site) you might notice that this debate gets started up about once every couple months. As for myself, I agree with what Jandek himself said on his last album: "I don’t need to discuss my life We’re talking about it now I know that you’ll hear me You didn’t bring me all this way for nothing I know that you’re here And we’re both together What more could you want? You’d be surprised at how simple your intake can be" -(from the song "You Know You Need") -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4640 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 15:27:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 15:27:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:26:44 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OFQi103871 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:26:44 -0600 Received: (qmail 25512 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 09:03:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 09:03:15 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.247.120] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:58:37 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:58:37 -0800 Received: from 62.96.232.50 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:58:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.96.232.50] From: "Colin Meeder" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: re: i would like to know Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:58:36 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 08:58:37.0020 (UTC) FILETIME=[C81D69C0:01C2C386] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I like Daniel's theories precisely BECAUSE I think they're perfectly incorrect. (This is not a joke or insult.) Colin Meeder Frankfurt am Main _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5385 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 15:28:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 15:28:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:27:18 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OFRHk03972 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:27:17 -0600 Received: (qmail 31864 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 12:24:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 12:24:14 -0000 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.161]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:21:02 -0600 Received: from AKelly1971@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.13.170db3ab (3842); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:20:53 -0500 (EST) From: AKelly1971@aol.com Message-ID: <13.170db3ab.2b6289a5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:20:53 EST Subject: LIGHTEN UP!!!!! To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu CC: ambience@optionline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_13.170db3ab.2b6289a5_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10630 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 12:21:02.0194 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F33E520:01C2C3A3] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_13.170db3ab.2b6289a5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Let's keep it friendly here, okay? Ambience had a question, we discussed it. No need to say someone's stupid or callother names. Let's nip this in the bud and get back to Jandek and his music. --part1_13.170db3ab.2b6289a5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Let's keep it friendly here, okay?  Ambience had a question, we discussed it.  No need to say someone's stupid or callother names.  Let's nip this in the bud and get back to Jandek and his music.  --part1_13.170db3ab.2b6289a5_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5389 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 15:28:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 15:28:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:27:29 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OFRT304001 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:27:29 -0600 Received: (qmail 31939 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 12:25:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 12:25:15 -0000 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.99]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:24:41 -0600 Received: from AKelly1971@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.8f.28727dec (3842) for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:24:34 -0500 (EST) From: AKelly1971@aol.com Message-ID: <8f.28727dec.2b628a82@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:24:34 EST Subject: LIGHTEN UP!!!!! To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10630 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 12:24:41.0958 (UTC) FILETIME=[92313860:01C2C3A3] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5393 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 15:28:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 15:28:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:27:55 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OFRtw04029 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:27:55 -0600 Received: (qmail 32545 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 12:49:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 12:49:14 -0000 Received: from prserv.net ([32.97.166.32] unverified) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:40:41 -0600 Received: from attglobal.net (slip-32-103-39-10.il.us.prserv.net[32.103.39.10]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2003012412403020205rlaage>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:40:31 +0000 Message-ID: <3E313497.7040807@attglobal.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:41:59 -0600 From: Dale - HifiToaster User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jandek list Subject: the Jandek mystery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 12:40:41.0952 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE64AE00:01C2C3A5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk regarding the mystery of Jandek Todd Madson wrote: >It's not unlike trying to find out if Paul McCartney is >REALLY the Fireman To me it's more like wondering if the Walrus was really Paul or looking at the "clues" about his death. It's something interesting to read about, ponder, and occasionally discuss. I got into Jandek not because I heard a song and became a fan, but because the back story was so fucking intriguing. And when I picked up On The Way in the late 80's I was quite perplexed and didn't really get it. I never found another person who cared about Jandek (or even knew who he was), seldom stumbled across press about him, which meant that there was no other impetus to return to him since I didn't like the record. It wasn't until I got online a few years ago and started finding some stuff on Jandek (namely Seth's site) and found other people interested in him that I returned to the record with ten more years of experiences and perspective and wanted to hear more. The mystery and speculation stimulated my interest again. I really don't care who Jandek is, and I hope I never know for sure. But I love reading of people trying to piece together a puzzle and argue over an interpretation of a lyric or photo. Was there a master plan of obscurity from the beginning or did it just happen and he decided to ride out the concept. I enjoy speculating on how and why he spent so much money and resources to send out so many records in the early days without the intention of following up on potential interest other than by putting out another record. Dale Maybe Jandek is just another side project of Chuck Barris along with his secret CIA career. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7684 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 16:01:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 16:01:13 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:53:30 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OFrTi04545 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:53:29 -0600 Received: (qmail 7204 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 15:49:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 15:49:13 -0000 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.41]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:39:49 -0600 Received: from Anatole40@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.1ee.ee5e0 (15899) for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-m31.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINID92-0124103943; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:39:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:39:43 -0500 From: Anatole40@aol.com To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: instrumentals MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <42C08ED7.69C3D8AC.022486B0@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 15:39:50.0008 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4BBDF80:01C2C3BE] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk has anyone ever drawn up a list of all the Jandek instrumental tracks? James Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9109 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 16:38:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 16:38:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:37:21 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OGbL705114 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:37:21 -0600 Received: (qmail 9006 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 16:36:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 16:36:12 -0000 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([17.250.248.97]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:27:02 -0600 Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h0OGR0FF013384 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:27:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.2.2] ([141.151.184.162]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H988CZ00.74Y for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:26:59 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: maurice@mail.mac.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3E313497.7040807@attglobal.net> References: <3E313497.7040807@attglobal.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:26:56 -0500 To: Jandek list From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Re: the Jandek mystery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 16:27:02.0334 (UTC) FILETIME=[6CEE85E0:01C2C3C5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk At 6:41 AM -0600 1/24/03, Dale - HifiToaster wrote: >I really don't care who Jandek is, and I hope I never know for sure. >But I love reading of people trying to piece together a puzzle and >argue over an interpretation of a lyric or photo. Exactly. The whole Jandek "mystery" gives us all a partly (even mostly) blank page on which we can write our own text around his, which is much more interesting than nailing the guy down to someone with a social security number, car payment, mortgage, etc. I don't necessarily think Daniel's Ohio theory is "correct," but it doesn't matter--I was happy to read it and consider it. Actually, I'd like to see other potentially plausible (and even wilder) speculation. He's in Houston, right? Let's work up some evidence of a connection to the space program, for instance. Or whatever. The point is that it's fascinating to see what people come up with, given the sparse particulars that are available. -M -- Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 11096 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 17:25:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 17:25:11 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:24:19 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OHOI805783 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:24:18 -0600 Received: (qmail 11029 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 17:23:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 17:23:11 -0000 Received: from epimetheus.hosting4u.net ([209.15.2.92]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:20:24 -0600 Received: (qmail 23387 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 17:20:23 -0000 Received: from leo.hosting4u.net (HELO waferbaby.com) (209.15.2.51) by mail-gate.hosting4u.net with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 17:20:23 -0000 Received: from john ([24.94.50.69]) by waferbaby.com ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:20:22 -0600 From: "Benjamin Redder" To: "'john brown'" , Cc: Subject: RE: Jandek -- Re: I would like to know Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:18:17 -0500 Message-ID: <002f01c2c3cc$97200d00$0d02a8c0@WorkGroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01C2C3A2.AE858760" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 17:20:24.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[E17F5B80:01C2C3CC] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C2C3A2.AE858760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I dont know him; I do know he, or the >>band, is just a regular person, a human. He could be an alien. >>He is just like you and I. Yes, haven't all of us released 30-something albums of material? I think the fact that we're actually on a mailing list, conversing with other people and volunteeringly giving away our actual names and identities proves that we aren't just like Jandek. >>He could be simply making music for fun or release He could be making music at gunpoint, who knows? >>and n! ot want myriads of people >>(like yourselves) bothering him. The closest anyone has ever come to "bothering" him, is probably Katy Vine, and who knows if Jandek was actually bothered? >>Who cares anyway? Lots of people. >>It doesnt matter who he is or what his deal is. Yes it does. >>Even if you did find him what would happen? We would probably ask a lot of questions. And we would probably buy him a lot of drinks. >>discuss on this list instead of the same old who is this guy. Start your own Jandek list where no one is allowed to talk about who Jandek is. See how many people join. Its part of the experience. If you like Jandek solely for the music and the album covers, you're nuts. You can't honestly say that you became interested in Jandek because of his musicianship, and that the mystery of it had nothing to do with it. Ben. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C2C3A2.AE858760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>>I dont know him; I do know he, or the
>>band, = is just=20 a regular person, a human. 

He could=20 be an alien.

>>He is just like = you and=20 I.

Yes, haven't all of us=20 released 30-something albums of material?  I think the fact = that we're=20 actually on a mailing list, conversing with other people and = volunteeringly=20 giving away our actual names and identities proves that we aren't just = like=20 Jandek.

>>He could be simply making music for fun or release=20

He could be making music at = gunpoint, who=20 knows? 

>>and n! ot want myriads of=20 people
>>(like yourselves) bothering him.

The closest anyone has ever come to = "bothering"=20 him, is probably Katy Vine, and who knows if Jandek was = actually=20 bothered?  

>>Who cares anyway? =

Lots of=20 people.

>>It doesnt matter who he is or what his deal is.=20

Yes it does.

>>Even if you did find him what would = happen?=20

We would probably ask a = lot of=20 questions.  And we would probably buy him a lot of = drinks.

>>discuss on this = list=20 instead of the same old who is this guy.

Start your own Jandek list where no one is = allowed to=20 talk about who Jandek is.  See how many people join.   = Its part=20 of the experience.  If you like Jandek solely for the music and the = album=20 covers, you're nuts.  You can't honestly say that you became = interested in=20 Jandek because of his musicianship, and that the mystery of it had = nothing to do=20 with it.

Ben. 
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C2C3A2.AE858760-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14174 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 18:26:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 18:26:10 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:25:59 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OIPwG06487 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:25:58 -0600 Received: (qmail 14133 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 18:25:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 18:25:10 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.247.13] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:25:04 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:25:04 -0800 Received: from 216.170.175.171 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:25:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.170.175.171] From: "Courtney Jacobs" To: differentkitchen@attglobal.net, jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: the Jandek mystery Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:25:04 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 18:25:04.0447 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA3334F0:01C2C3D5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk word up dale...except for that whole CIA thing though you never know... this man vs myth thing is not as complicated as it looks. jandek, whether a single person, band, collaborative effort, whatever...produces intriguing, straight out of nowhere music. but the exciting part comes from an ingenius (or unintentional...or both) business mind. how many artists that create today ponder endless nights on how to keep their audience captivated? an audience loves a good mystery. an audience also loves playing poirot or sherlock holmes. the point is not to solve this mystery. the point is to have fun trying and to appreciate the intrigue jandek presents us. process orientation versus product. (read the tao of pooh) meanwhile, jandek presents us with a great soundtrack to go on our merry ways...its worth its present, but not necessarily its future. take a deep breath people! courtney sidenote: i am terribly excited to see this documentary. if anyone is in the chicago/milwaukee area and wants to eventually have a screening shindig, i think that would be loads of fun. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22228 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 21:59:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 21:59:09 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:59:00 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OLwx307999 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:58:59 -0600 Received: (qmail 17999 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 20:00:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 20:00:09 -0000 Received: from web41402.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.68]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:57:35 -0600 Message-ID: <20030124195735.99400.qmail@web41402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.174.193] by web41402.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:57:35 PST Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:57:35 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: instrumentals To: Anatole40@aol.com Cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <42C08ED7.69C3D8AC.022486B0@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 19:57:35.0909 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7211550:01C2C3E2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Anatole40@aol.com wrote: > has anyone ever drawn up a list of all the Jandek > instrumental tracks? > James That'd be quite a chore---- off the top of my head: Lavender Honey (from Follow...) Ambient Instrument Nancy Knows Street Walk A couple songs from White Box Requiem (sic) Why Did I Change a Word in the Last Song Upon the Grandeur (technically he does sing, but who can understand him---his voice is more of an instrument here) there are a lot more. D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22777 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 22:02:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 22:02:09 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:01:21 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OM1L508153 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:01:21 -0600 Received: (qmail 19012 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 20:25:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 20:25:09 -0000 Received: from web41408.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.74]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:20:14 -0600 Message-ID: <20030124202014.33537.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.174.193] by web41408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:20:14 PST Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: (Flame) War Dance and Shoddy Packaging Skills To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 20:20:14.0510 (UTC) FILETIME=[00EB24E0:01C2C3E6] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk The comments from John and Ben were totally unnecesary....The guy who wrote the original question just wanted to know why we search. Granted, none of us are tearing through public records trying to find out what Smith's social security number is, but nobody's opinion is stupid...only misguided. But we're all misguided when it comes to Jandek, because there is no right way. My conclusion: we are propelled by the music and the mystery. One evokes the other. They cannot be taken apart. It's not the theories i like as much as the process of putting them together. When i come up with a new one, i don't think "here's what it is". I think "here's another possibility." A pedophilic albino with a slick haircut? A mental patient with a kind caretaker? a cosmopolitan hilbilly? A guy in one of houston's upscale neighbourhoods with nice cufflinks and an affinity for gardening? The solo career of the guy from A Flock of Seaguls? YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR? Jandek could be any or none of the above, and that's what makes it so great. I liked what Colin Meeder said about my theories...they're perfectly incorrect. Not quite sure what you meant by that, Colin, but I'm sure it's positive. Although I have a theory.... I got 0742 Chair Beside a Window today. I was irked because the jewel case was cracked up quite a bit. This happened before, with Follow Your Footsteps. I was going to send it back, hoping he'd refund it and throw in an apoligetic free album, but i figured i'd leave him alone, and that'd be pretty cheap of me. Besides, the album is too good for me to care. I recommend it highly...one of my top 5. The corwood catalog had a lot of awful typos on it, like he was in a rush... I never knew he had an album called "Graven Omage". "By the sea by the sea/In a point Judith Diary" D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24799 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 22:55:08 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 22:55:08 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:50:41 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OMoeY09072 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:50:40 -0600 Received: (qmail 24661 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 22:50:07 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 22:50:07 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.18.88] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:49:10 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:49:09 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "Paul Frederick" To: "Daniel Marks" , References: <20030124202014.33537.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (Flame) War Dance and Shoddy Packaging Skills Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:18:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 22:49:09.0692 (UTC) FILETIME=[CEB3B7C0:01C2C3FA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Daniel, > I was irked > because the jewel case was cracked up quite a bit. When we toured Houston Records... Chad and I got to see their "packaging room." The centerpiece of this room was a giant CD packaging machine that would, in seconds, assemble the jewel case, insert front and back labels, put the CD in its place, seal it, and stack it. The machine, if I remember correctly, was shipped freight... unseen, from Bali. How to put this... The machine wasn't very "gentle." I'd imagine that the damage was done before Corwood got them. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26781 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 23:32:08 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 23:32:08 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:31:30 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0ONVUV09562 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:31:30 -0600 Received: (qmail 26522 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 23:28:08 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 23:28:08 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.18.122] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:23:24 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:23:23 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "Paul Frederick" To: Cc: "Jandek Documentary" Subject: Jandek Documentary... request for help Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:53:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C2C3C0.B365B700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 23:23:23.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[9723FC70:01C2C3FF] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C2C3C0.B365B700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jandek fans, In our never-ending quest for B-roll (surplus of sounds... dearth of = images)... we've come up with a novel idea. We'd need some help to pull = it off. In our travels, we've found that some of the more interesting Jandek... = 'artifacts' have been the LPs themselves, as modified by the people who = receive them. I'm sure that many of you are familiar with the college radio practice = of writing reviews directly on the album/on a sticker affixed to the = album... writing the station's call letters prominently on the cover to = discourage theft, and adding all manner of funny and not so funny = commentary on the album jacket. We figure that several of you frequent college/community radio stations, = or have in your collection LPs bought from or given away by (you DID = come by those records honestly, didn't you!?) these radio stations. WE URGENTLY NEED scans (300dpi or greater) of these albums... important = documents in the evolution (and possibly regional interpretation) of = Jandek. Please send any questions to jandocumentary@hotmail.com ... We'd = probably need them burned to CD and mailed... we'd try to defray = shipping/media cost if that would motivate you. If you needed help = walking you through the process, we'd be happy to do so. BUT AN LP IS FAR BIGGER THAN MY/MY RADIO STATION'S SCANNER: Not a = problem... you could either "mosaic" it and send us both (all three?) = scans... or... even easier, you could send us scans of only those = portions of the album with pithy/ironic/inane/hilarious writing on it... = and we'll composite it on another scan. WE'LL DO ANYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE IT AS EASY FOR YOU AS POSSIBLE. Of course, we will credit/'special thanks' you and/or your radio = station, unless you wouldn't want that for some reason. Please pitch in, if you can... we're plugging away on this project, and = need your help. Website for doc, with downloadable trailers, should be ready by next = week, for all those who couldn't download through soulseek. ALSO; We'd like to talk to anyone with a digitized copy of "Twelfth = Apostle"... assuming s/he exists. Thanks so much, Paul Fehler ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C2C3C0.B365B700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Jandek fans,

In our = never-ending quest=20 for B-roll (surplus of sounds... dearth of images)... we've come up with = a novel=20 idea.  We'd need some help to pull it off.

In our travels, = we've=20 found that some of the more interesting Jandek... 'artifacts' have been = the LPs=20 themselves, as modified by the people who receive them.

I'm sure = that=20 many of you are familiar with the college radio practice of writing = reviews=20 directly on the album/on a sticker affixed to the album... writing the = station's=20 call letters prominently on the cover to discourage theft, and adding = all manner=20 of funny and not so funny commentary on the album jacket.

We = figure that=20 several of you frequent college/community radio stations, or have in = your=20 collection LPs bought from or given away by (you DID come by those = records=20 honestly, didn't you!?) these radio stations.

WE URGENTLY NEED = scans=20 (300dpi or greater) of these albums... important documents in the = evolution (and=20 possibly regional interpretation) of Jandek.

Please send any = questions to=20 jandocumentary@hotmail.com= ...=20 We'd probably need them burned to CD and mailed... we'd try to defray=20 shipping/media cost if that would motivate you.  If you needed help = walking=20 you through the process, we'd be happy to do so.

BUT AN LP IS FAR = BIGGER=20 THAN MY/MY RADIO STATION'S SCANNER:   Not a problem... you = could=20 either "mosaic" it and send us both (all three?) scans... or... even = easier, you=20 could send us scans of only those portions of the album with=20 pithy/ironic/inane/hilarious writing on it... and we'll composite it on = another=20 scan.

WE'LL DO ANYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE IT AS EASY FOR YOU = AS=20 POSSIBLE.

Of course, we will credit/'special thanks' you and/or = your=20 radio station, unless you wouldn't want that for some = reason.

Please=20 pitch in, if you can... we're plugging away on this project, and need = your=20 help.

Website for doc, with downloadable trailers, should be = ready by=20 next week, for all those who couldn't download through=20 soulseek.

ALSO;  We'd like to talk to anyone with a = digitized copy=20 of "Twelfth Apostle"... assuming s/he exists.

Thanks so = much,
Paul=20 Fehler
------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C2C3C0.B365B700-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28774 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2003 00:24:08 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 00:24:08 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:15:04 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0P0F4809865 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:15:04 -0600 Received: (qmail 28407 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2003 00:12:07 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 00:12:07 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.247.139] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:09:09 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:09:09 -0800 Received: from 68.22.194.178 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:09:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.22.194.178] From: "C. A. Polk" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek -- Re: I would like to know Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:09:09 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_481f_33f_32d5" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2003 00:09:09.0527 (UTC) FILETIME=[FBA06A70:01C2C405] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_481f_33f_32d5 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "john brown" >>I dont know him; I do know he, or the >>band, is just a regular person, a human. >There's no way you know that. And there's no way YOU know otherwise either. >>It doesnt matter who he is or what his deal is. >Yes it does. Says who? >You seem stupid, Funny - after that post, I'd say the same of you. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------=_NextPart_000_481f_33f_32d5 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Message-Info: dHZMQeBBv44lPE7o4B5bAg== Received: from cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.99.240]) by mc9-f20.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:08:04 -0800 Received: (qmail 15623 invoked by uid 1032); 24 Jan 2003 05:07:16 -0000 Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15593 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 05:07:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 05:07:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:03:27 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0O53Qi00558 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:03:26 -0600 Received: (qmail 11536 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 02:41:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 02:41:12 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.21.38] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:31:29 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:31:29 -0800 Received: from 4.60.185.191 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:31:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "john brown" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Cc: ambience@optionline.net Subject: Jandek -- Re: I would like to know Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:31:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 02:31:29.0079 (UTC) FILETIME=[B32EE470:01C2C350] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Return-Path: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
>>Without being rude, I would like to know why you people spend
>>so much of your time looking for the real Jandek.

Where did you get the idea that anyone here spent a lot of time "looking for the real Jandek" ?

>>I dont know him; I do know he, or the
>>band, is just a regular person, a human.

There's no way you know that. 

>>He is just like you and I.

That's... probably pretty "not true"...

>>A surrealist type muscian who makes strange music.

A connection between Jandek's music and surrealism would be very specious.  I don't think you know what you're talking about.

>>He could be simply making music for fun or release

You know what... he could be... that's a really refreshing and "new" way of looking at it.  You've come up with something very pithy.

NOW STOP SPENDING SO MUCH TIME TRYING TO FIND THE "REAL" JANDEK.

>>and n! ot want myriads of people
>>(like yourselves) bothering him.

Where do you get this?  Do you have some info about someone bothering him?  I don't know of that happening... especially from this list. 

>>Who cares anyway?

Lots of people.

>>It doesnt matter who he is or what his deal is.

Yes it does.

>>Even if you did find him what would happen?

NO ONE ON THIS LIST IS ACTIVELY SEARCHING FOR FACE TO FACE CONTACT WITH JANDEK.  I don't know why you've deluded yourself into believing this.

If someone were to want to do this... it would be ridiculously easy.  The fact that it doesn't happen with any regularity is proof of our collective lack of intent.

>>discuss on this list instead of the same old who is this guy.

The "same old who is this guy" discussions account for fewer than 5% of the discussions on this list.

You seem stupid,
John


MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* ------=_NextPart_000_481f_33f_32d5-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3201 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2003 04:36:05 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 04:36:05 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:28:34 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0P4SXw11182 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:28:33 -0600 Received: (qmail 1931 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2003 03:48:06 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 03:48:06 -0000 Received: from epimetheus.hosting4u.net ([209.15.2.92]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:43:42 -0600 Received: (qmail 25719 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2003 03:43:41 -0000 Received: from leo.hosting4u.net (HELO waferbaby.com) (209.15.2.51) by mail-gate.hosting4u.net with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 03:43:41 -0000 Received: from john ([24.94.50.69]) by waferbaby.com ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:43:39 -0600 From: "Benjamin Redder" To: "'C. A. Polk'" , Subject: RE: Jandek -- Re: I would like to know Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:41:41 -0500 Message-ID: <003901c2c423$ad148da0$0d02a8c0@WorkGroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2003 03:43:42.0511 (UTC) FILETIME=[F485E3F0:01C2C423] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk The fact of the matter is that it really doesn't matter WHY we search. I can give you three or four unsatisfactory answers to the question of "Why Jandek Fans Search to Figure Out Whom the Real Jandek Is" 1. its a mystery 2. its a free country 3. its fun 4. it would be an accomplishment I'm sure there are an array of other reasons that other people have and that's great. I have other reasons myself, but they don't really matter. Like I said before, if you don't like people talking about it, then start your own mailing list and enforce a rule which bans the use of the words "mystery" and the like. See what people talk about instead. Probably nothing. What do people talk about on mailing lists for other artists? The news articles that they read. Okay, sweet. Well, there ain't too many of those for ol' Janky, so we gots to make up some gossip ourselves. Ben. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22985 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2003 16:19:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 16:19:56 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:19:52 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0PGJqq14913 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:19:52 -0600 Received: (qmail 19157 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2003 13:43:47 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 13:43:47 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.21.31] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 07:31:09 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:43:34 -0800 Received: from 4.60.185.191 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 06:43:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "john brown" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Jandek; Seeming Stupid, and etiquette Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 06:43:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2003 06:43:34.0636 (UTC) FILETIME=[15217AC0:01C2C43D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk



C.A. Polk,

> > >>I dont know him; I do know he, or the
> > >>band, is just a regular person, a human.
> >
> > >There's no way you know that.
> >
> > And there's no way YOU know otherwise either.

That's kind of my point.  I don't know, he doesn't know.  It's irresponsible for people to put things like that "out there" as fact while not knowing.  (notice... I never once intimated or implied that "I knew."  That was the province of your haughty new pal).

> > >>It doesnt matter who he is or what his deal is.
> >
> > >Yes it does.
> >
> > Says who?

C'mon... it's ludicrous to suggest that it doesn't matter "what his deal is."  Don't play the reluctant altruist... doesn't suit you any better than it did him.

Let's level, C.A;  I came down on him pretty hard, but you saw right through him too, didn't you?  I mean, you read that mish-mash of contrived objection and see-through contrarianism for what it was, right?  It was a baiting and malformed bitch session by someone not well-versed enough, topically, to construct a compelling argument.  It was a troll... and a holier-than-thou one at that.

Please tell me, C.A... that you're calling me out for my methods, and not my argument.  I can take that, of course, but throw me a bone and tell me that you think my argument is sound.

The alternative for our group, of course, is to cower and apologize to every single person bold enough to ask for a justification/apology for things that we aren't even doing.  I! WILL NOT BE MADE TO LIVE LIKE THE SWISS, C.A. POLK.  THEY MATE ONLY ONCE A YEAR AND TRADE IN THE SOULS OF CHRISTIAN CHILDREN.  THE RED CROSS IS JUST PUBLICITY THING; THEIR TRADE IN CHOCOLATES AND SMALL GEARS AND SPROCKETS IS ONLY A FRONT.

> > >You seem stupid,
> >
> > Funny - after that post, I'd say the same of you.

I'll take that.  I'll jump on the grenade.  I seem stupid.  But it doesn't make him seem any less stupid.

I didn't say anything that most other people on the list hadn't already thought.  I'm willing to accept that I seemed stupid in the process.

Yours... seeming stupid,
John

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Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3997 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 00:12:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 00:12:52 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:09:01 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0Q090r17647 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:09:00 -0600 Received: (qmail 27256 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2003 18:38:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 18:38:29 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.247.164] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:36:25 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:36:25 -0800 Received: from 68.22.194.178 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:36:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.22.194.178] From: "C. A. Polk" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek; Seeming Stupid, and etiquette Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:36:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_2189_52b4_3d7c" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2003 18:36:25.0148 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA57AFC0:01C2C4A0] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_2189_52b4_3d7c Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "john brown" > > >>I dont know him; I do know he, or the > > >>band, is just a regular person, a human. > > >There's no way you know >that. > > And there's no way YOU know otherwise either. >>>That's kind of my point. I don't know, he doesn't know. It's >>>irresponsible for people to put things like that "out there" as fact >>>while not knowing. (notice... I never once intimated or implied that "I >>>knew." That was the province of your haughty new pal). "Haughty"? So you DO think that it IS possible for someone to be something other than "a regular person", in relation to other people? Interesting. >>>C'mon... it's ludicrous to suggest that it doesn't matter "what his deal >>>is." Don't play the reluctant altruist... doesn't suit you any better >>>than it did him. Wow - and you know what I'm "playing". Damn, Kreskin, you're pretty good... >>>Let's level, C.A; I came down on him pretty hard, but you saw right >>>through him too, didn't you? I mean, you read that mish-mash of >>>contrived objection and see-through contrarianism for what it was, right? >>> It was a baiting and malformed bitch session by someone not well-versed >>>enough, topically, to construct a compelling argument. It was a troll... >>>and a holier-than-thou one at that. How long did that paragraph take you? >>>Please tell me, C.A... that you're calling me out for my methods, and not >>>my argument. I can take that, of course, but throw me a bone and tell me >>>that you think my argument is sound. Sad to say - you shall remain boneless, my friend. >>>The alternative for our group, of course, is to cower and apologize to >>>every single person bold enough to ask for a justification/apology for >>>things that we aren't even doing. I! WILL NOT BE MADE TO LIVE LIKE THE >>>SWISS, C.A. POLK. THEY MATE ONLY ONCE A YEAR AND TRADE IN THE SOULS OF >>>CHRISTIAN CHILDREN. THE RED CROSS IS JUST PUBLICITY THING; THEIR TRADE >>>IN CHOCOLATES AND SMALL GEARS AND SPROCKETS IS ONLY A FRONT. What in the HELL are you on about? And can I have some of those drugs too? > > >You seem stupid, > Funny - after that post, I'd say the same of you. >>>I'll take that. I'll jump on the grenade. I seem stupid. But it >>>doesn't make him seem any less stupid. I didn't say anything that most other people on the list hadn't already thought. I'm willing to accept that I seemed stupid in the process. Since I tried this once before a while back, somewhat obtusely, I'll try to be more direct about it now : "There's nothing to get". - Jandek Now, if all you fanboys can read that sentence, and STILL go on and on and ON about your theories, that's fine. You are ABSOULUTELY entitled to do that. But be VERY AWARE of the fact that when you do go on about it all, what you are REALLY talking about is YOU, not Jandek. The person who started this little dance stated quite clearly that he wasn't being rude, and that he was interested in serious replies, not flames. Your response(s), John (to him AND me) was EXACTLY what he did NOT ask for, and is also EXACTLY what I'm referring to above - you talking about YOU, not Jandek. So pardon me while I yawn. Now, go back to glowering at a map of Switzerland like a good little psycho, OK? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------=_NextPart_000_2189_52b4_3d7c Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Message-Info: dHZMQeBBv44lPE7o4B5bAg== Received: from cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.99.240]) by mc7-f2.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 08:20:18 -0800 Received: (qmail 22995 invoked by uid 1032); 25 Jan 2003 16:19:57 -0000 Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22985 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2003 16:19:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 16:19:56 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:19:52 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0PGJqq14913 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:19:52 -0600 Received: (qmail 19157 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2003 13:43:47 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 13:43:47 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.21.31] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 07:31:09 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:43:34 -0800 Received: from 4.60.185.191 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 06:43:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "john brown" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Jandek; Seeming Stupid, and etiquette Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 06:43:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2003 06:43:34.0636 (UTC) FILETIME=[15217AC0:01C2C43D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Return-Path: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu



C.A. Polk,

> > >>I dont know him; I do know he, or the
> > >>band, is just a regular person, a human.
> >
> > >There's no way you know that.
> >
> > And there's no way YOU know otherwise either.

That's kind of my point.  I don't know, he doesn't know.  It's irresponsible for people to put things like that "out there" as fact while not knowing.  (notice... I never once intimated or implied that "I knew."  That was the province of your haughty new pal).

> > >>It doesnt matter who he is or what his deal is.
> >
> > >Yes it does.
> >
> > Says who?

C'mon... it's ludicrous to suggest that it doesn't matter "what his deal is."  Don't play the reluctant altruist... doesn't suit you any better than it did him.

Let's level, C.A;  I came down on him pretty hard, but you saw right through him too, didn't you?  I mean, you read that mish-mash of contrived objection and see-through contrarianism for what it was, right?  It was a baiting and malformed bitch session by someone not well-versed enough, topically, to construct a compelling argument.  It was a troll... and a holier-than-thou one at that.

Please tell me, C.A... that you're calling me out for my methods, and not my argument.  I can take that, of course, but throw me a bone and tell me that you think my argument is sound.

The alternative for our group, of course, is to cower and apologize to every single person bold enough to ask for a justification/apology for things that we aren't even doing.  I! WILL NOT BE MADE TO LIVE LIKE THE SWISS, C.A. POLK.  THEY MATE ONLY ONCE A YEAR AND TRADE IN THE SOULS OF CHRISTIAN CHILDREN.  THE RED CROSS IS JUST PUBLICITY THING; THEIR TRADE IN CHOCOLATES AND SMALL GEARS AND SPROCKETS IS ONLY A FRONT.

> > >You seem stupid,
> >
> > Funny - after that post, I'd say the same of you.

I'll take that.  I'll jump on the grenade.  I seem stupid.  But it doesn't make him seem any less stupid.

I didn't say anything that most other people on the list hadn't already thought.  I'm willing to accept that I seemed stupid in the process.

Yours... seeming stupid,
John

MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. ------=_NextPart_000_2189_52b4_3d7c-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4001 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 00:12:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 00:12:52 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:09:55 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0Q09tI17688 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:09:55 -0600 Received: (qmail 32334 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2003 21:37:05 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 21:37:05 -0000 Received: from web41411.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.77]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:35:40 -0600 Message-ID: <20030125213539.1840.qmail@web41411.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.172.65] by web41411.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:35:39 PST Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:35:39 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: enough To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2003 21:35:40.0578 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5141020:01C2C4B9] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I've had enough of these flame wars! Let's take the high road and forget about it. let's stick to intelligent conversation...not like that hippy arguement from way back. Those that want to be objective, can do so---those that want to search----do so. But let's leave each other alone. Thoughtful debate is good, but pointless arguement is bad. Just remember: W.W.J.D What Would Jandek Do? hahaha i crack myself up. D.M. --- john brown wrote: --------------------------------- C.A. Polk, > > >>I dont know him; I do know he, or the > > >>band, is just a regular person, a human. > > > > >There's no way you know that. > > > > And there's no way YOU know otherwise either. That's kind of my point. I don't know, he doesn't know. It's irresponsible for people to put things like that "out there" as fact while not knowing. (notice... I never once intimated or implied that "I knew." That was the province of your haughty new pal). > > >>It doesnt matter who he is or what his deal is. > > > > >Yes it does. > > > > Says who? C'mon... it's ludicrous to suggest that it doesn't matter "what his deal is." Don't play the reluctant altruist... doesn't suit you any better than it did him. Let's level, C.A; I came down on him pretty hard, but you saw right through him too, didn't you? I mean, you read that mish-mash of contrived objection and see-through contrarianism for what it was, right? It was a baiting and malformed bitch session by someone not well-versed enough, topically, to construct a compelling argument. It was a troll... and a holier-than-thou one at that. Please tell me, C.A... that you're calling me out for my methods, and not my argument. I can take that, of course, but throw me a bone and tell me that you think my argument is sound. The alternative for our group, of course, is to cower and apologize to every single person bold enough to ask for a justification/apology for things that we aren't even doing. I! WILL NOT BE MADE TO LIVE LIKE THE SWISS, C.A. POLK. THEY MATE ONLY ONCE A YEAR AND TRADE IN THE SOULS OF CHRISTIAN CHILDREN. THE RED CROSS IS JUST PUBLICITY THING; THEIR TRADE IN CHOCOLATES AND SMALL GEARS AND SPROCKETS IS ONLY A FRONT. > > >You seem stupid, > > > > Funny - after that post, I'd say the same of you. I'll take that. I'll jump on the grenade. I seem stupid. But it doesn't make him seem any less stupid. I didn't say anything that most other people on the list hadn't already thought. I'm willing to accept that I seemed stupid in the process. Yours... seeming stupid, John --------------------------------- MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 6014 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 01:01:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 01:01:52 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:54:33 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0Q0sWk17984 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:54:32 -0600 Received: (qmail 5563 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 00:49:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 00:49:52 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.18.63] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:45:31 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:45:30 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "Paul Frederick" To: Subject: What Would Jandek Do? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:15:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 00:45:30.0621 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A12B2D0:01C2C4D4] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Frederick" To: "Daniel Marks" Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:09 PM Subject: What Would Jandek Do? > > > Just remember: > > W.W.J.D > > What Would Jandek Do? > > When we were filming in Olympia, we met a woman from the Film coop there who > helped us quite a bit. She had spent quite a bit of time with us, showing > us around the city, and acting as a liason... organizing some of our > interviews... very helpful. > > As we were getting ready to go, she gave us two WWJD? bracelettes. I was > taken aback, because I didn't get a very "christian" vibe from her. > Truthfully, I was a little disappointed and confused as to how we should > react. > > Then she looks at us, completely deadpan, and says "What Would Jandek Do?" > I laughed all the way to the airport. > > Whereas asking yourself the question "What Would Jesus Do?" has an > expectation of a certian type of behaviour, of piousness and kindness., > "What Would Jandek Do?" (to me, at least) is a wonderful justification for > any number of behaviours... (what the hell WOULD Jandek do, anyway? Dunno) > > Still have the bracelette, and it still makes me laugh. > > P > Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12131 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 22:07:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 22:07:18 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:05:19 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0QM5J600547 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:05:19 -0600 Received: (qmail 9354 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 20:13:01 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 20:13:01 -0000 Received: from web13205.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.190]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:03:20 -0600 Message-ID: <20030126200320.62598.qmail@web13205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [158.254.224.113] by web13205.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:03:19 PST Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:03:19 -0800 (PST) From: Quenby Alclaire Subject: Product To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 20:03:20.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[F99F08F0:01C2C575] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >What makes Jandek a little different is that he just keeps on >putting out product. i think to refer to a record or recorded material as 'product' is a supreme insult. yes some records are comparable to low fat potato chips....some are not. i worked in a large chain grocery store for a week or so and everything was refered to as 'product'.......capitalism is bad enough without it infecting everyones language too......it's just creepy. ~~M.E. ===== Quenby Ellis "No"- pulic domain __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12135 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 22:07:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 22:07:18 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:05:31 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0QM5UC00585 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:05:30 -0600 Received: (qmail 9633 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 20:26:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 20:26:02 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:22:31 -0600 Received: (qmail 26744 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 20:22:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by spf1.us.outblaze.com with QMQP; 26 Jan 2003 20:22:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 63334 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 20:22:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.54) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 20:22:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 63328 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Jan 2003 20:22:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20030126202230.63327.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:22:30 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:22:30 -0500 Subject: jandek as clip art X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 20:22:31.0404 (UTC) FILETIME=[A75702C0:01C2C578] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk A picture of Jandek (from the cover of "Six and Six") was used as an example of an "average white guy" in an article from the website somethingawful.com. Here's the link: http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=368 -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12922 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 22:09:20 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 22:09:20 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:09:07 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0QM97Y00653 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:09:07 -0600 Received: (qmail 12136 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 22:07:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 22:07:19 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.83] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:05:41 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:03:04 -0800 Received: from 62.254.160.106 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:03:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.254.160.106] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: lightbulbs Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:03:03 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 22:03:04.0109 (UTC) FILETIME=[B31CBDD0:01C2C586] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Couple of Jandek mentions in this months issue of the Wire, courtesy of (suprise suprise) Byron Coley, in an article on Charambalides (probably spelt wrong, but you know who I mean), and a review of the new home-recorded Keiji Haino album. The latter is reportedly similar to his early 80s "Watashi Dake" which does remind me of Jandek in its very intimate atmosphere and skewed approach to the guitar. Reviews of "Somebody in the Snow" and "The Living End" are now on the Aquarius records site with 2 realaudio samples each. Ah, all the recent bad blood is now deleted from my inbox and will soon be forgotten... how many Jandek fans does it take to screw in a lightbulb anyway? Paul _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14670 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 23:03:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 23:03:18 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:00:30 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0QN0UJ00781 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:00:30 -0600 Received: (qmail 13997 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 22:39:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 22:39:18 -0000 Received: from web41404.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.70]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:30:41 -0600 Message-ID: <20030126223041.72453.qmail@web41404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.117] by web41404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:30:41 PST Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:30:41 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: jandek as clip art To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030126202230.63327.qmail@mail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 22:30:41.0605 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F0E8F50:01C2C58A] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk That's great! I love Something Awful...Many a time i was tempted to send a doctored Jandek pic to their "Phototshop Phriday" section, but i knew no one would get it. D.M. --- Joe Henry wrote: > A picture of Jandek (from the cover of "Six and > Six") was used as an example of an "average white > guy" in an article from the website > somethingawful.com. Here's the link: > http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=368 > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at > Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > Meet Singles > http://corp.mail.com/lavalife __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14674 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 23:03:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 23:03:18 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:00:38 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0QN0c300810 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:00:38 -0600 Received: (qmail 14001 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 22:39:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 22:39:18 -0000 Received: from web41411.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.77]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:31:35 -0600 Message-ID: <20030126223135.43936.qmail@web41411.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.117] by web41411.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:31:35 PST Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:31:35 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Product To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030126200320.62598.qmail@web13205.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 22:31:35.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF409840:01C2C58A] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Quenby Alclaire wrote: .......capitalism is bad > enough without it infecting everyones language > too......it's just creepy. > > ~~M.E. > > Captialism is bad?! Uh oh, we've got a communist on out hands here... Watch him with great caution! D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15488 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 23:07:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 23:07:13 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:06:13 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0QN6CF00895 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:06:12 -0600 Received: (qmail 14667 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 23:03:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 23:03:18 -0000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:59:03 -0600 Received: from LiLiPUT1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.1e5.5dd396 (4328) for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:58:58 -0500 (EST) From: LiLiPUT1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e5.5dd396.2b65c231@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:58:57 EST Subject: Re: Jandek As Clip Art To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e5.5dd396.2b65c231_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL For Mac OS X sub 16 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 22:59:03.0579 (UTC) FILETIME=[85832EB0:01C2C58E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_1e5.5dd396.2b65c231_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How the hell did you stumble across that website? It's fascinating. Kevin John --part1_1e5.5dd396.2b65c231_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How the hell did you stumble across that website? It's fascinating.

Kevin John --part1_1e5.5dd396.2b65c231_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15489 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 23:07:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 23:07:13 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:06:20 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0QN6Jp00922 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:06:19 -0600 Received: (qmail 14678 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 23:03:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 23:03:18 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:02:14 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0QN2DlZ017029 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:02:13 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0QN2DHx017025; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:02:13 -0600 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:02:13 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: Quenby Alclaire cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Product In-Reply-To: <20030126200320.62598.qmail@web13205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20030126200320.62598.qmail@web13205.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 23:02:15.0234 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7BF6A20:01C2C58E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Quenby Alclaire wrote: > >What makes Jandek a little different is that he just keeps on > >putting out product. > > i think to refer to a record or recorded material as 'product' is a > supreme insult. yes some records are comparable to low fat potato > chips....some are not. i worked in a large chain grocery store for a week > or so and everything was refered to as 'product'.......capitalism is bad > enough without it infecting everyones language too......it's just creepy. > Sigh. I put out music myself. I guess calling it product is doing a disservice to me? Anyway. "He keeps on putting out more jandek records". Better? Oh, some of them are CDs. Well, heck, "more Jandek recordings." -t > ~~M.E. > > > > ===== > Quenby Ellis > > "No"- pulic domain > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19538 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 01:21:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 01:21:29 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:02:25 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0R02Pm01307 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:02:25 -0600 Received: (qmail 17148 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2003 23:40:55 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 23:40:55 -0000 Received: from web41408.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.74]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:12:28 -0600 Message-ID: <20030126231227.64310.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.117] by web41408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:12:27 PST Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:12:27 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Product To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 23:12:28.0417 (UTC) FILETIME=[653BB710:01C2C590] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Wow, Jandek fans are definitly anally retentive people, to some degree. I think that's one blanket statement i can make that everyone will agree with. If he produces it...would it not then be product? It is the product of a recording session. What-ever. D.M. --- Todd Madson wrote: > > > > On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Quenby Alclaire wrote: > > > >What makes Jandek a little different is that he > just keeps on > > >putting out product. > > > > i think to refer to a record or recorded material > as 'product' is a > > supreme insult. yes some records are comparable to > low fat potato > > chips....some are not. i worked in a large chain > grocery store for a week > > or so and everything was refered to as > 'product'.......capitalism is bad > > enough without it infecting everyones language > too......it's just creepy. > > > > Sigh. I put out music myself. I guess calling it > product is doing a > disservice to me? Anyway. "He keeps on putting out > more jandek records". > Better? Oh, some of them are CDs. Well, heck, > "more Jandek recordings." > > -t > > > ~~M.E. > > > > > > > > ===== > > Quenby Ellis > > > > "No"- pulic domain > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > -- ===== Take nothing and no one seriously. Daniel S. Marks- Author, musician, admirer of pretty things. http://www.geocities.com/alfredggnome http://www.casualfridaysband.com http://www.mp3.com/CasualFridays __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16096 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 15:21:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 15:21:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:14:52 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0RFEpP05841 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:14:51 -0600 Received: (qmail 20974 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 02:03:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 02:03:29 -0000 Received: from web41505.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.88]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:59:03 -0600 Message-ID: <20030127015902.13911.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.126.199.89] by web41505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:59:02 PST Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:59:02 -0800 (PST) From: Bradley Be Subject: Re: Product To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030126200320.62598.qmail@web13205.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2003 01:59:03.0228 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA9AD7C0:01C2C5A7] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Quenby Alclaire wrote: > i think to refer to a record or recorded material as > 'product' is a supreme insult. I can find nothing insulting about this. In fact, an American that actually produces a worthwhile physical product is becoming quite rare indeed. Jandek produces a conpletely non-disposable product, despite what the RIAA wants you to think about music. The recordings, now that digital masters have been created, are virtually indestructable. They'll last longer than steel. They'll last longer than the artist himself. I think it would be more insulting to say that Jandek performs a 'service.' You're not going to start calling him a 'music broker,' are you? ===== http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 17055 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 15:46:31 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 15:46:31 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:36:57 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0RFavb06560 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:36:57 -0600 Received: (qmail 25323 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 05:14:55 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 05:14:55 -0000 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.101]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:14:11 -0600 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.145.8c8980f (4238) for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:14:06 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: <145.8c8980f.2b661a1e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:14:06 EST Subject: Re: Product To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2003 05:14:11.0286 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED26B760:01C2C5C2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk The Buzzcocks box set was entitled "Product". I say if it's good enough for them... In a message dated 1/26/03 5:07:26 PM, flagrant_sake@yahoo.com writes: << >What makes Jandek a little different is that he just keeps on >putting out product. i think to refer to a record or recorded material as 'product' is a supreme insult. yes some records are comparable to low fat potato chips....some are not. i worked in a large chain grocery store for a week or so and everything was refered to as 'product'.......capitalism is bad enough without it infecting everyones language too......it's just creepy. ~~~M.E. >> Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 27140 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 19:39:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 19:39:17 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:38:46 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0RJckY11586 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:38:46 -0600 Received: (qmail 27050 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 19:38:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 19:38:17 -0000 Received: from web13208.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.193]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:35:02 -0600 Message-ID: <20030127193502.51167.qmail@web13208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.185.112.109] by web13208.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:35:02 PST Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:35:02 -0800 (PST) From: Quenby Alclaire Subject: Re: Product To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030127015902.13911.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2003 19:35:02.0799 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FDA21F0:01C2C63B] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk > I think it would be more insulting to say that Jandek > performs a 'service.' You're not going to start > calling him a 'music broker,' are you? no...as that would still be using the language and context of consumerism. it's just inefficient and derogatory. it's describing everything as a commodity. ~~M.E. ===== Quenby Ellis "No"- pulic domain __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 2028 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 22:16:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 22:16:17 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:09:00 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0RM90613317 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:09:00 -0600 Received: (qmail 28921 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 20:13:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 20:13:15 -0000 Received: from web13205.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.190]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:07:31 -0600 Message-ID: <20030127200730.91446.qmail@web13205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.185.112.109] by web13205.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:07:30 PST Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:07:30 -0800 (PST) From: Quenby Alclaire Subject: Re: Product To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030126231227.64310.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2003 20:07:31.0506 (UTC) FILETIME=[B95F3920:01C2C63F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Daniel Marks wrote: > Wow, Jandek fans are definitly anally retentive > people, to some degree. I think that's one blanket > statement i can make that everyone will agree with. > > If he produces it...would it not then be product? It > is the product of a recording session. > that is one usage...but not the most common. it is my understanding that only anal retentative people worry about what's anal retentive or not. you know like homophobia is a symtom of repressed homosexuality. ~~M.E. ===== Quenby Ellis "No"- pulic domain __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 2854 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 22:29:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 22:29:17 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:19:42 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0RMJfb13631 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:19:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 2029 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 22:16:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 22:16:17 -0000 Received: from web41402.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.68]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:15:57 -0600 Message-ID: <20030127221556.29793.qmail@web41402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.177.22] by web41402.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:15:56 PST Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:15:56 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Product To: Quenby Alclaire Cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030127200421.72032.qmail@web13207.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2003 22:15:57.0362 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA6B8920:01C2C651] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Sure, i'm anally retentive too. It's not a bad thing, i was merely pointing it out. But you, "quenby", seem to take everything as offensive. You need to lighten up. I can't imagine the length of the pole someone would have to have up his ass to take offense at calling a product "product". Just what are you trying to prove with your anti-capitalist bilge? But that's just my opinion. We're all entitled, right? D.M. --- Quenby Alclaire wrote: > > it is my understanding that only anal retentative > people worry about > what's anal retentive or not. you know like > homophobia is a symtom of > repressed homosexuality. > > ~M.E. > > > ===== > Quenby Ellis > > "No"- pulic domain > > ===== Take nothing and no one seriously. Daniel S. Marks- Author, musician, admirer of pretty things. http://www.geocities.com/alfredggnome http://www.casualfridaysband.com http://www.mp3.com/CasualFridays __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3338 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 22:30:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 22:30:17 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:29:54 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0RMTsi13855 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:29:54 -0600 Received: (qmail 2846 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 22:29:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 22:29:17 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:21:34 -0600 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0RMLYS13656 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:21:34 -0600 Message-Id: <200301272221.h0RMLYS13656@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Seth Tisue Subject: Hey! X-Mailer: MH-E 7.0; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.2 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:21:34 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2003 22:21:34.0642 (UTC) FILETIME=[73746120:01C2C652] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Please stop with the flaming, insults, etc. Your list admin, == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4046 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 22:41:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 22:41:17 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:40:45 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0RMejD14091 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:40:45 -0600 Received: (qmail 4005 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 22:40:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 22:40:17 -0000 Received: from web9606.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.129.185]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:39:29 -0600 Message-ID: <20030127223928.46004.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.149.23.192] by web9606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:39:28 PST Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:39:28 -0800 (PST) From: Junker George Subject: Re: Product To: Quenby Alclaire , jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030127200730.91446.qmail@web13205.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2003 22:39:29.0666 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4380620:01C2C654] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I cringed when I saw the word 'product' used like it was. And cheered when an objection was voiced. -And I'm AMAZED that everybody is piling on the objector! I should have spoken up sooner. I feel like such a lout! Now it's all got out of hand & the topic is beat. -JG ===== http://www.ma.ultranet.com/~tlclcms/refgall4.htm __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 13415 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 03:10:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 03:10:15 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:09:40 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0S39dt17546 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:09:39 -0600 Received: (qmail 13346 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 03:09:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 03:09:14 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:00:39 -0600 Received: (qmail 385 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 03:00:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by spf1.us.outblaze.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2003 03:00:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 6790 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 03:00:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.55) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 03:00:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 62471 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Jan 2003 03:00:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20030128030030.62470.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:00:30 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:00:30 -0500 Subject: jandek on allmusic.com X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2003 03:00:39.0941 (UTC) FILETIME=[706E3B50:01C2C679] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Go to allmusic.com and search for Jandek, and a plethora of original (I think) reviews of his albums will come up. They're not all very accurate, but I thought Seth might want to list them on his site. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 20114 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 21:52:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 21:52:45 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:48:22 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0SLmLf27209 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:48:21 -0600 Received: (qmail 19830 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 21:44:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 21:44:45 -0000 Received: from web41412.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.78]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:44:13 -0600 Message-ID: <20030128214412.13246.qmail@web41412.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.172.153] by web41412.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:44:12 PST Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:44:12 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: revisions of the theory To: Jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2003 21:44:13.0134 (UTC) FILETIME=[65D326E0:01C2C716] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I've decided to scrap my Ohio theory. Aside from that he spent some time there, I don't think my "proof" holds much at all. I guess it just comes from actually listening again. 0742 rules. peace, D.M. ===== Take nothing and no one seriously. Daniel S. Marks- Author, musician, admirer of pretty things. http://www.geocities.com/alfredggnome http://www.casualfridaysband.com http://www.mp3.com/CasualFridays __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 20132 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 21:52:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 21:52:45 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:48:30 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0SLmT927235 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:48:29 -0600 Received: (qmail 19871 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 21:45:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 21:45:45 -0000 Received: from web41414.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.80]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:45:18 -0600 Message-ID: <20030128214518.84159.qmail@web41414.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.172.153] by web41414.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:45:18 PST Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:45:18 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: revisions of the theory To: Jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2003 21:45:18.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D122620:01C2C716] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I've decided to scrap my Ohio theory. Aside from that he spent some time there, I don't think my "proof" holds much at all. I guess it just comes from actually listening again. 0742 rules. peace, D.M. PS., don;t you think it's wierd that Chusid was willing to interview the guys for the record orgy but not for the documentary? What a jerk. ===== Take nothing and no one seriously. Daniel S. Marks- Author, musician, admirer of pretty things. http://www.geocities.com/alfredggnome http://www.casualfridaysband.com http://www.mp3.com/CasualFridays __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 20113 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 21:52:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 21:52:45 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:48:16 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0SLmF527183 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:48:15 -0600 Received: (qmail 19725 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 21:42:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 21:42:45 -0000 Received: from web41402.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.68]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:40:25 -0600 Message-ID: <20030128214025.62453.qmail@web41402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.172.153] by web41402.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:40:25 PST Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:40:25 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: jandek on allmusic.com To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030128030030.62470.qmail@mail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2003 21:40:26.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE7A1AA0:01C2C715] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Yeah he mentioned them in the press page. Pretty good reviews, although many of Jandek's best albums are not listed (Blue Corpse, You Walk Alone, ect.) Sorry about the flames everyone. No more flames. It brings out the worst in all of us. Jandek wouldn't want it. You can put your bloody mind in a paper bag and eat it for lunch, D.M. --- Joe Henry wrote: > Go to allmusic.com and search for Jandek, and a > plethora of original (I think) reviews of his albums > will come up. They're not all very accurate, but I > thought Seth might want to list them on his site. > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at > Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > Meet Singles > http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ===== Take nothing and no one seriously. Daniel S. Marks- Author, musician, admirer of pretty things. http://www.geocities.com/alfredggnome http://www.casualfridaysband.com http://www.mp3.com/CasualFridays __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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However, the first review I looked at (for Denim's "Denim on Ice") references Chusid's "Neither rock, roll, nor even 'n'" description of Jandek (the "folk sociopath"). The record in question sounds nothing like Jandek....Though the band is a spinoff of Felt, whose early work does bring to mind an alternate-universe Jandek who listened to Television and the Velvets a little too much. 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--B_3126664115_14104337-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 10677 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2003 22:24:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 29 Jan 2003 22:24:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:16:34 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0TMGXf15817 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:16:33 -0600 Received: (qmail 10133 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2003 22:10:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 29 Jan 2003 22:10:02 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.30] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:03:16 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:58:51 -0800 Received: from 62.254.160.106 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:58:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.254.160.106] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: instrumentals Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:58:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2003 21:58:51.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BB366F0:01C2C7E1] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Somebody recently asked for a list of Jandek instrumentals. Here goes... I dare you all to make a comp of these and listen to it exclusively for a week. (Note: I haven't heard One Foot in the North and don't know if it features any instrumentals. What's this album like anyway?) LIVING IN A MOON SO BLUE: One Step Ahead STARING AT THE CELLOPHANE: This Is For You Basic Themes - not really an instrumental, but features a wordless vocal YOUR TURN TO FALL: Decree New String INTERSTELLAR DISCUSSION: Why Did I Change a Word in the Last Song NINE-THIRTY: Tumblings FOREIGN KEYS: Coming Quiet FOLLOW YOUR FOOTSTEPS: Honey Straight Thirty Seconds BLUE CORPSE: Harmonica (though there is some moaning through the harmonica towards the end) YOU WALK ALONE: Lavender ON THE WAY: Ambient Instrument (though some percussive vocal sounds at the start) THE LIVING END: Start the Band (some crooning from "Nancy II" throughout, but it's very quiet and barely noticable) SOMEBODY IN THE SNOW: Pastimes LOST CAUSE: The Electric End (another wordless vocal) GRAVEN IMAGE: A Real Number GLAD TO GET AWAY: Nancy Knows WHITE BOX REQUIEM: The Glade Concrete Steps Eternal Waltz Walking in the Meadow Approaching the City I WOKE UP: Get Back Inside Joab NEW TOWN: Street Walk THE BEGINNING: The Beginning _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24664 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 05:27:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 05:27:52 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:27:42 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0U5RfC18592 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:27:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 16172 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 00:36:07 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 00:36:07 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:35:28 -0600 Received: (qmail 28452 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 00:35:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by spf1.us.outblaze.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2003 00:35:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 19165 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 00:35:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.49) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 00:35:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 84468 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Jan 2003 00:35:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20030130003524.84467.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:35:24 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:35:24 -0500 Subject: Re: one foot in the north X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 00:35:28.0320 (UTC) FILETIME=[7CB9DC00:01C2C7F7] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Here's my review of One Foot In The North (I posted it on rateyourmusic.com along with a bunch of others): Jandek - One Foot In The North (three stars out of five) Between 1987 and 1992, Jandek put out about seven albums that became the most approachable work in his discography. They mostly center around electric blues with standard tuning. One Foot In The North is probably the weakest of the lot, but still retains some worth while qualities. "Yellow Pages" starts the album on a slow, eerie pace. "Angel" continues in this atmosphere, but uses a appealing guitar theme that makes the experience more enjoyable. "Show The Man Your Picture" and "Think About Your Lady" are a bit dull, due to Jandek's lazy mumbling over very quiet guitar wanderings. Drums appear in "Real Fine Movement", which gives the song some direction and makes it more successful than the others. "Alehouse Blues" is the standout track on the album, which uses two guitars and drums, with structured blues guitar riffs behind Jandek's Lou Reed-ian lyrics about how he got drunk with a "redhead punk" named Randy. "Upon The Grandeur" is a beautifully delicate eight-minute instrumental, similar to "Lavendar" from You Walk Alone. "Phoenix" is a stumbling, bluesy waltz, with some of the loudest drumming on the record. "Dreaming Man" and "Breast in a Moonbeam" use Moe Tucker like bass drumming and have a dramatic quality to them, but both seem to lead up to a climax that never comes. The album closes with "Honey", the shortest and loudest track. I am critical in this review, but the album certainly does maintain an interesting atmosphere (distant, echoed), even if most of the songs do not stand up to repeated listenings. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25028 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 05:28:53 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 05:28:53 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:27:54 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0U5Rro18619 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:27:53 -0600 Received: (qmail 16738 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 00:55:03 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 00:55:03 -0000 Received: from pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca ([24.71.223.10]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:51:51 -0600 Received: from pd4mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.215]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H9I00LK652E1V@l-daemon> for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:51:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml4so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.148]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H9I00DE352EXO@l-daemon> for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:51:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from gregkk43cqeg8r (h24-85-239-34.wp.shawcable.net [24.85.239.34]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with SMTP id <0H9I00KMA52DJH@l-daemon> for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:51:50 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:51:45 -0600 From: Greg and Karen Subject: RE: www.jandekoncorwood.com In-reply-to: To: Jandek Documentary Cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0yqvTzeSNkPsp3SkfFYyig)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 00:51:51.0289 (UTC) FILETIME=[C69F0690:01C2C7F9] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_0yqvTzeSNkPsp3SkfFYyig) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The page looks really good. Very plain and basic, like his LP artwork. He'd approve, I think! Greg. -----Original Message----- From: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu [mailto:owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Jandek Documentary Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:12 PM To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: www.jandekoncorwood.com Hey guys... www.jandekoncorwood.com ... Trailer is available online. Any suggestions appreciated.... HTML is not our strong suit. Hope you like... Paul jandocumentary@hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online --Boundary_(ID_0yqvTzeSNkPsp3SkfFYyig) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
The page looks really good. Very plain and basic, like his LP artwork.
 
He'd approve, I think!
 
Greg.
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Here's a link: http://www.whatsbetter.com/ranklist.pyt?query=jandek Last time I checked, their scores were in the negative hundreds. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25053 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 05:28:53 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 05:28:53 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:28:17 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0U5SGF18652 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:28:16 -0600 Received: (qmail 18487 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 01:53:39 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 01:53:39 -0000 Received: from web41511.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.94]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:46:01 -0600 Message-ID: <20030130014601.43174.qmail@web41511.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.187.72.113] by web41511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:46:01 PST Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:46:01 -0800 (PST) From: Bradley Be Subject: Re: Jandek - One Foot in the North To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Cc: paulgcondon@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 01:46:01.0820 (UTC) FILETIME=[5816B1C0:01C2C801] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Paul Condon wrote: I haven't heard One Foot in the North and > don't know if it features > any instrumentals. What's this album like anyway?) One Foot in the North features a mix of solo electric guitar songs and band tunes. The first few solo songs have the guitarist playing actual chords. Later ones are in the open-tuned style. The drum-guitar tracks are a mix of improvs, "Lavender"-style ballads, a 12-bar blues and various other ramblings. The tone throughout is somewhat low-key. And again, as is heard on many other Jandek releases, for the last track of the LP he uses the limitations of the master tape as a compositional tool: when the tape runs out, the LPs over. no instrumentals... ===== http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25068 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 05:28:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 05:28:54 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:28:37 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0U5SaH18716 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:28:36 -0600 Received: (qmail 21921 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 03:54:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 03:54:52 -0000 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.5.17]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:54:14 -0600 Received: from asv2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.51]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H9I00B69DILX0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from gregg (ool-18bbbeb8.dyn.optonline.net [24.187.190.184]) by asv2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0U3rGKM006942 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:53:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:54:11 -0500 From: Gregg Turek Subject: jandek To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-id: <001e01c2c813$42e409d0$6401a8c0@gregg> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pI5bPgHE6IhTIxOpg34e7w)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 03:54:14.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[4187AE20:01C2C813] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_pI5bPgHE6IhTIxOpg34e7w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The "Jandek on Corwood" movie trailer is up on the Web at http://www.jandekoncorwood.com/ Gregg Turek yuus@optonline.net --Boundary_(ID_pI5bPgHE6IhTIxOpg34e7w) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

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--Boundary_(ID_pI5bPgHE6IhTIxOpg34e7w)-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 11031 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 14:02:57 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 14:02:57 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:56:02 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0UDo2B20822 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:50:02 -0600 Received: (qmail 31041 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 07:16:24 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 07:16:24 -0000 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.98]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:12:40 -0600 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.1eb.94c51c (4328) for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:12:34 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: <1eb.94c51c.2b6a2a61@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:12:33 EST Subject: Re: one foot in the north To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 07:12:40.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[F98BE160:01C2C82E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk In a message dated 1/30/03 12:28:20 AM, crushtacoes@mail.com writes: << "Upon The Grandeur" is a beautifully delicate eight-minute instrumental, similar to "Lavendar" from You Walk Alone. >> WTF people....This song is NOT an instrumental!! Here's strong evidence that to support my clain, i.e. the lyrics: Well let's burst upon the grandeur Second to see the scene(?) And when it's time To find a ? Too close to ? your picture I'm down to You deliver a place for me I ? upon a ? of stone ??? You turn around to ? You ? run away You smile ?? I pray to see the day And if you go away I will wait here and miss you Oh join hands and lead the way Reborn again today I feel whimsical That's the whimsy And there's no question Ask any man in the world And when this time is over There'll be another one To be ? this? And you're moving on to the next one ??? lurks It's cold and your neck hurts There ain't a ? here no more A letter's by the door(?) I leave by dawn today To find another way 'Til the day I see the light That brings my fortune here tonight Obviously that's not 100% correct, but still... if that's an instrumental so is Smells Like Teen Spirit. Plus it is the third time that basic tune was used (see I'll Sit Alone... and Pastimes). No connection to Lavender at all. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16813 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 16:39:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 16:39:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:34:41 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0UGYfw22192 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:34:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 14024 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 15:21:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 15:21:56 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.247.143] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:13:36 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:13:35 -0800 Received: from 65.92.19.191 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:13:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.92.19.191] From: "Darin Mitchell" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Sterling, Neil and You Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:13:35 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 15:13:35.0891 (UTC) FILETIME=[28F72E30:01C2C872] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk A while back someone put a negative Neil Hagerty (from the now defunct Royal Trux) quote about Jandek. Regardless of the fact that I love a lot of RTX's stuff, Hagerty must be full of shit. If you listen to the first Royal Trux album (RTX 1) you can totally hear parts of Follow Your Footsteps being completely ripped off. In sound, style and texture. Those guitar runs especially and the fire cracker drumming. He's mentioned Jandek a few times, in a negative way, but I really hear Jandek's influence in early RTX records. Anyone else hear this too? M. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22185 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 18:34:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 18:34:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:29:18 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0UITH123789 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:29:17 -0600 Received: (qmail 21813 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 18:24:03 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 18:24:03 -0000 Received: from femail21.im.home.ne.jp ([203.165.11.236]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:21:52 -0600 Received: by femail21.im.home.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20030130182150.NYZ1074.femail21.im.home.ne.jp@smtp202.mf.home.ne.jp> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:21:50 +0900 Received: from jcom.home.ne.jp (61-26-176-69.home.ne.jp [61.26.176.69]) by smtp202.mf.home.ne.jp (s22082600) with ESMTP id h0UILnRe014753 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:21:49 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:21:49 +0900 Subject: Re: Sterling, Neil and You Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Paul Collett To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 18:21:52.0578 (UTC) FILETIME=[7650D220:01C2C88C] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 12:13 am, Darin Mitchell wrote: > If you listen to the first Royal Trux album (RTX 1) you can totally > hear parts of Follow Your Footsteps being completely ripped off. In > sound, style and texture. Those guitar runs especially and the fire > cracker drumming. Maybe on the first track, "Bad Blood", but the primitivism here is more a product of where they came from - the NY "no wave" scene, where you can hear lots of Jandek-style atonalism - and a junkie emulation of bands like the Stones. Royal Trux are pretty open in admitting narcotics played a large part in the sound of their first few albums, perhaps that's Jandek's secret too? Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25537 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 19:59:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 19:59:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:56:20 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0UJuKh24638 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:56:20 -0600 Received: (qmail 25309 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 19:53:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 19:53:14 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:52:39 -0600 Received: (qmail 9026 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 19:52:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by spf1.us.outblaze.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2003 19:52:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 43249 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 19:52:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.49) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 19:52:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 33922 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Jan 2003 19:52:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20030130195212.33921.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:52:12 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:52:12 -0500 Subject: Re: upon the grandeur X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 19:52:39.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[24D9A4F0:01C2C899] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk > WTF people....This song is NOT an instrumental!! Sorry, that's my bad. I'm an idiot. But it is similar to Lavendar, musically. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28198 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 20:50:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 20:50:19 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:49:34 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0UKnYS25364 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:49:34 -0600 Received: (qmail 26177 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 20:03:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 20:03:15 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.37.71] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:02:17 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:01:50 -0800 Received: from 68.97.60.77 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:01:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.97.60.77] From: "Matt Hall" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Sterling, Neil and You Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:01:50 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 20:01:50.0338 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D425E20:01C2C89A] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk i'm kind of new to both the list and the man, but i found this observation particularly interesting. has their been much discussion in the past over possible drug use by jandek? >From: Paul Collett >To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu >Subject: Re: Sterling, Neil and You >Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:21:49 +0900 >MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) >Received: from cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.99.240]) by >mc9-f21.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 30 Jan >2003 10:34:23 -0800 >Received: (qmail 22195 invoked by uid 1032); 30 Jan 2003 18:34:03 -0000 >Received: (qmail 22185 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 18:34:02 -0000 >Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) >(129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 18:34:02 >-0000 >Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by >mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 >Jan 2003 12:29:18 -0600 >Received: (from tisue@localhost)by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu >(8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0UITH123789for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 30 Jan >2003 12:29:17 -0600 >Received: (qmail 21813 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 18:24:03 -0000 >Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) >(129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 18:24:03 >-0000 >Received: from femail21.im.home.ne.jp ([203.165.11.236]) by >mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 >Jan 2003 12:21:52 -0600 >Received: by femail21.im.home.ne.jp with ESMTP id ><20030130182150.NYZ1074.femail21.im.home.ne.jp@smtp202.mf.home.ne.jp> > for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:21:50 +0900 >Received: from jcom.home.ne.jp (61-26-176-69.home.ne.jp [61.26.176.69])by >smtp202.mf.home.ne.jp (s22082600) with ESMTP id h0UILnRe014753for >; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:21:49 +0900 (JST) >X-Message-Info: dHZMQeBBv44lPE7o4B5bAg== >Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu >In-Reply-To: >Message-Id: >X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 18:21:52.0578 (UTC) >FILETIME=[7650D220:01C2C88C] >Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu >Precedence: bulk >Return-Path: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > > >On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 12:13 am, Darin Mitchell wrote: > >>If you listen to the first Royal Trux album (RTX 1) you can totally hear >>parts of Follow Your Footsteps being completely ripped off. In sound, >>style and texture. Those guitar runs especially and the fire cracker >>drumming. > >Maybe on the first track, "Bad Blood", but the primitivism here is more a >product of where they came from - the NY "no wave" scene, where you can >hear lots of Jandek-style atonalism - and a junkie emulation of bands like >the Stones. Royal Trux are pretty open in admitting narcotics played a >large part in the sound of their first few albums, perhaps that's Jandek's >secret too? _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 32417 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 22:26:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 22:26:18 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:26:15 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0UMQEh26505 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:26:14 -0600 Received: (qmail 32379 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 22:25:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 22:25:19 -0000 Received: from web41404.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.70]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:24:05 -0600 Message-ID: <20030130222404.61216.qmail@web41404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.173.135] by web41404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:24:04 PST Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:24:04 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: one foot in the north To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <1eb.94c51c.2b6a2a61@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 22:24:05.0656 (UTC) FILETIME=[4CB48980:01C2C8AE] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Excellent job. I couldn't make out anything he was saying. Techinically "Upon the Grandeur" isn't an instrumental...but his voice seems more like an instrument there. Incomprehensible except by a few. D.M. --- NCR13@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/30/03 12:28:20 AM, > crushtacoes@mail.com writes: > > << "Upon The Grandeur" is a beautifully delicate > eight-minute instrumental, > similar to "Lavendar" from You Walk Alone. >> > > WTF people....This song is NOT an instrumental!! > Here's strong evidence that > to support my clain, i.e. the lyrics: > > Well let's burst upon the grandeur > Second to see the scene(?) > And when it's time > To find a ? > Too close to ? your picture > I'm down to > You deliver a place for me > I ? upon a ? of stone > ??? > You turn around to ? > You ? run away > You smile ?? > I pray to see the day > And if you go away > I will wait here and miss you > Oh join hands and lead the way > Reborn again today > I feel whimsical > That's the whimsy > And there's no question > Ask any man in the world > And when this time is over > There'll be another one > To be ? this? > And you're moving on to the next one > ??? lurks > It's cold and your neck hurts > There ain't a ? here no more > A letter's by the door(?) > I leave by dawn today > To find another way > 'Til the day I see the light > That brings my fortune here tonight > > Obviously that's not 100% correct, but still... if > that's an instrumental so > is Smells Like Teen Spirit. Plus it is the third > time that basic tune was > used (see I'll Sit Alone... and Pastimes). No > connection to Lavender at all. ===== Take nothing and no one seriously. Daniel S. Marks- Author, musician, admirer of pretty things. http://www.geocities.com/alfredggnome http://www.casualfridaysband.com http://www.mp3.com/CasualFridays __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 6496 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2003 01:28:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 01:28:34 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:21:17 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0V1LGg28886 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:21:16 -0600 Received: (qmail 2169 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 23:18:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 23:18:19 -0000 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.7]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:17:27 -0600 Received: from Anatole40@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.24.35dc2292 (18707) for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:17:22 -0500 (EST) From: Anatole40@aol.com Message-ID: <24.35dc2292.2b6b0c82@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:17:22 EST Subject: friends of Jandek To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 36 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 23:17:27.0780 (UTC) FILETIME=[C151E240:01C2C8B5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk one of the aspects of the Jandek mystery that's always intrigued me is the degree to which Sterling's personal friends, business associates, etc., have any idea about his musical activities. While of course Jandek records exist on a sub-strata of obscurity, he *does* get some degree of recognition. And it's not like he's a Thomas Pynchon who eschews portrait photographs. He's had his mug printed in Spin magazine, after all... I wonder if anyone who knows Sterling read that issue and did a doubletake. Or, say, the friends of his at the bar that he took Katy Vine to. The article described them as winking and nudging since he didn't introduce her as a journalist; did he ever explain it to them later? What about the employees at the post office where he has his PO box? I don't know about him, but as someone with a long-kept PO box myself, I've gotten to know the regulars behind the counter, and they ask questions about how my record label's going, etc. What about record shops in Houston? (Anyone on this list live in the area?) Does Jandek get his CDs into the local shops? How many people has he "confessed" to, and does he make them all take some vow of silence? On the one hand, it's not like the National Enquirer is offering $50,000 to anyone who can spill the beans... but you'd think that *somewhere* in the course of 25 years, someone who knows him might have told a friend, who in turn told a friend... Not that I want the mystery to be revealed, mind you. It's just one of those things to think about. James Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 2295 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2003 16:18:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 16:18:19 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:12:55 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0VGCuY01207 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:12:56 -0600 Received: (qmail 29844 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2003 13:29:08 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 13:29:08 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:27:12 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0VDR9lZ014874 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:27:09 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h0VDR9NN014870; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:27:09 -0600 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:27:09 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: Anatole40@aol.com cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: friends of Jandek In-Reply-To: <24.35dc2292.2b6b0c82@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <24.35dc2292.2b6b0c82@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2003 13:27:12.0281 (UTC) FILETIME=[76735890:01C2C92C] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Either they're all in on it or they know nothing about it. -t On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 Anatole40@aol.com wrote: > one of the aspects of the Jandek mystery that's always intrigued me is the > degree to which Sterling's personal friends, business associates, etc., have > any idea about his musical activities. While of course Jandek records exist > on a sub-strata of obscurity, he *does* get some degree of recognition. And > it's not like he's a Thomas Pynchon who eschews portrait photographs. He's > had his mug printed in Spin magazine, after all... I wonder if anyone who > knows Sterling read that issue and did a doubletake. > Or, say, the friends of his at the bar that he took Katy Vine to. The > article described them as winking and nudging since he didn't introduce her > as a journalist; did he ever explain it to them later? What about the > employees at the post office where he has his PO box? I don't know about > him, but as someone with a long-kept PO box myself, I've gotten to know the > regulars behind the counter, and they ask questions about how my record > label's going, etc. > What about record shops in Houston? (Anyone on this list live in the area?) > Does Jandek get his CDs into the local shops? > How many people has he "confessed" to, and does he make them all take some > vow of silence? On the one hand, it's not like the National Enquirer is > offering $50,000 to anyone who can spill the beans... but you'd think that > *somewhere* in the course of 25 years, someone who knows him might have told > a friend, who in turn told a friend... > Not that I want the mystery to be revealed, mind you. It's just one of those > things to think about. > James > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22754 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2003 22:20:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 22:20:18 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:19:59 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0VMJwo06539 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:19:58 -0600 Received: (qmail 22663 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2003 22:18:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 22:18:17 -0000 Received: from web41411.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.77]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:15:57 -0600 Message-ID: <20030131221556.71490.qmail@web41411.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.175.78] by web41411.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:15:56 PST Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:15:56 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: friends of Jandek To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2003 22:15:57.0402 (UTC) FILETIME=[5418A3A0:01C2C976] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Considering the way he is, i'd say Corwood is a secret operation even to his friends. Of course, people like Nancy, his neighbor Poe, John, and Eddie, and "Mike" all knew his secret...or maybe not! Maybe none of them knew he was going to put them on a record. After all, there are never any credits as to who plays what on Jandek's albums....intriguing. In my imagined biography (which i scrapped because i felt it was ultimately blasphemy)I had a scene in which one of the characters, a next door neighbor, finds out that he is Jandek, and Jandek brings him down to his basement, in which there are boxes and boxes of "product". Our friend is amazed. D.M. > > On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 Anatole40@aol.com wrote: > > > one of the aspects of the Jandek mystery that's > always intrigued me is the > > degree to which Sterling's personal friends, > business associates, etc., have > > any idea about his musical activities. While of > course Jandek records exist > > on a sub-strata of obscurity, he *does* get some > degree of recognition. And > > it's not like he's a Thomas Pynchon who eschews > portrait photographs. He's > > had his mug printed in Spin magazine, after all... > I wonder if anyone who > > knows Sterling read that issue and did a > doubletake. > > Or, say, the friends of his at the bar that he > took Katy Vine to. The > > article described them as winking and nudging > since he didn't introduce her > > as a journalist; did he ever explain it to them > later? What about the > > employees at the post office where he has his PO > box? I don't know about > > him, but as someone with a long-kept PO box > myself, I've gotten to know the > > regulars behind the counter, and they ask > questions about how my record > > label's going, etc. > > What about record shops in Houston? (Anyone on > this list live in the area?) > > Does Jandek get his CDs into the local shops? > > How many people has he "confessed" to, and does he > make them all take some > > vow of silence? On the one hand, it's not like > the National Enquirer is > > offering $50,000 to anyone who can spill the > beans... but you'd think that > > *somewhere* in the course of 25 years, someone who > knows him might have told > > a friend, who in turn told a friend... > > Not that I want the mystery to be revealed, mind > you. It's just one of those > > things to think about. > > James > > > > -- ===== Take nothing and no one seriously. Daniel S. Marks- Author, musician, admirer of pretty things. http://www.geocities.com/alfredggnome http://www.casualfridaysband.com http://www.mp3.com/CasualFridays __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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