Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 17970 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2001 22:23:15 -0000 Received: from imo-r12.mx.aol.com (HELO imo-r12.mail.aol.com) (152.163.225.66) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2001 22:23:15 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id l.bf.a742fb7 (3937) for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 17:22:43 -0500 (EST) From: BlackBook78@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 17:22:42 EST Subject: Are the fans becoming as silent as Jandek? To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bf.a742fb7.2788f4b2_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_bf.a742fb7.2788f4b2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So is this dead or what?? I was flipping through channels this morning, and a movie called "Janek: The Silent Betrayal" was on Court TV. I thought it was pretty amusing.. Anyone notice that "Jandek" on the cover of Somebody in the Snow really doesn't look like the other photos of the men on the earlier albums? Though that has probably already been in speculation... Anyway, see ya'll later! --part1_bf.a742fb7.2788f4b2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So is this dead or what??

I was flipping through channels this morning, and a movie called "Janek: The
Silent Betrayal" was on Court TV.  I thought it was pretty amusing..

Anyone notice that "Jandek" on the cover of Somebody in the Snow really
doesn't look like the other photos of the men on the earlier albums?  Though
that has probably already been in speculation...

Anyway, see ya'll later! --part1_bf.a742fb7.2788f4b2_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18799 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2001 22:45:36 -0000 Received: from fireball.blast.net (207.162.131.33) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2001 22:45:36 -0000 Received: from fireball (clinton-nj.ts27.dialup017.blast.net [207.162.152.173]) by fireball.blast.net (8.9.3/8.10.2) with SMTP id RAA28263; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 17:39:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901c07833$406b1a40$ad98a2cf@blast.net> From: "Jeff Grimshaw" To: , References: Subject: Re: Are the fans becoming as silent as Jandek? Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 17:51:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C07809.566E93A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C07809.566E93A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My theory is we're all on pins and needles waiting for the new CD, hence = the long silence. My further theory is that ithe CD has been delayed = because J read all of our suggestions for cover versions and is busily = working on BONUS TRACKS. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: BlackBook78@aol.com=20 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu=20 Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 5:22 PM Subject: Are the fans becoming as silent as Jandek? So is this dead or what??=20 I was flipping through channels this morning, and a movie called = "Janek: The=20 Silent Betrayal" was on Court TV. I thought it was pretty amusing..=20 Anyone notice that "Jandek" on the cover of Somebody in the Snow = really=20 doesn't look like the other photos of the men on the earlier albums? = Though=20 that has probably already been in speculation...=20 Anyway, see ya'll later!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C07809.566E93A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My theory is we're all on pins and needles waiting = for the new=20 CD, hence the long silence. My further theory is that ithe CD has=20 been delayed because J read all of our suggestions for cover = versions and=20 is busily working on BONUS TRACKS.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 BlackBook78@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, January 06, = 2001 5:22=20 PM
Subject: Are the fans becoming = as silent=20 as Jandek?

So is this = dead or=20 what??

I was flipping through channels this morning, and a = movie=20 called "Janek: The
Silent Betrayal" was on Court TV.  I = thought it=20 was pretty amusing..

Anyone notice that "Jandek" on the cover = of=20 Somebody in the Snow really
doesn't look like the other photos of = the men=20 on the earlier albums?  Though
that has probably already been = in=20 speculation...

Anyway, see ya'll later!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C07809.566E93A0-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010108174111.26783.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 26774 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2001 17:41:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jan 2001 17:41:10 -0000 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Are the fans becoming as silent as Jandek? From: Seth Tisue In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jan 2001 17:22:42 EST." Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:41:10 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "BlackBook78" == BlackBook78 writes: BlackBook78> Anyone notice that "Jandek" on the cover of Somebody in BlackBook78> the Snow really doesn't look like the other photos of BlackBook78> the men on the earlier albums? Though that has probably BlackBook78> already been in speculation... I think there's absolutely no question that it's the same guy, just with his hair slicked back. I think all of the other cover photos are of younger versions of the man and the "Somebody" cover is just a rare example of Jandek treating us to a more contemporary photo of himself. Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010112072742.8116.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 8107 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 07:27:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 07:27:40 -0000 Subject: New Jandek CD! To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 01:27:40 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Package from Corwood today -- it's the new Jandek CD for 2000 (well, a couple weeks late, but it says "2000" on the back). It's called "Put My Dream On This Planet". Here's the track titles and times: 1. I Need Your Life (28:43) 2. It's Your House (22:14) 3. I Went Outside (1:17) Crazy! But wait, there's more... It's all solo voice! No instruments! (Well, I haven't actually listened to the whole thing yet, but no instruments in my sampling so far.) Just Jandek! Rambling at you for almost an hour! It's sort of spoken/sung -- more sung, using blues intervals and rhythms, so it comes off as closer to music than a poetry reading. It's similar in feel to the solo voice tracks on Captain Beefheart's "Trout Mask Replica". It's super lo-fi, but very silent whenever he pauses, like it was recorded on a voice-activated cassette recorder. Enclosed catalog had a note to the effect that the next reissue, of "Your Turn to Fall", would be out in a few weeks. Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24655 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 12:37:55 -0000 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.9) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 12:37:55 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id 5.d9.ec82b04 (15857); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from web49.aolmail.aol.com (web49.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.10]) by air-id05.mx.aol.com (v77.35) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:37:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:37:14 EST From: BlackBook78@aol.com Subject: Re: New Jandek CD! To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown Message-ID: Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Finally! What great news! But what about the cover? Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010112142717.28410.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 28401 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 14:27:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 14:27:16 -0000 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: New Jandek CD! From: Seth Tisue In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:37:14 EST." Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:27:16 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "BlackBook78" == BlackBook78 writes: BlackBook78> Finally! What great news! But what about the cover? It's extremely dark and blurry, and motion-blurred too. It looks like it might be a white-sleeved arm and, um, something, and another something. Maybe. If anyone gets a copy and can make it out let me know. Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31210 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 15:33:03 -0000 Received: from web3805.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.203.176) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 15:33:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20010112153258.5282.qmail@web3805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.243.134.73] by web3805.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:32:58 PST Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:32:58 -0800 (PST) From: PID Subject: Re: New Jandek CD! To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk is this only available from CORWOOD? Couldn't find it on Forced Exposure site... --- Seth Tisue wrote: > >>>>> "BlackBook78" == BlackBook78 > writes: > > BlackBook78> Finally! What great news! But what > about the cover? > > It's extremely dark and blurry, and motion-blurred > too. It looks like > it might be a white-sleeved arm and, um, something, > and another > something. Maybe. If anyone gets a copy and can > make it out let me > know. > > Seth > seth@tisue.net > http://tisue.net > ===== ===== Presented by: The APE in The MOON Independent Submarine Productions www.mp3.com/pid www.mp3.com/hamletidiot __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31680 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 15:37:24 -0000 Received: from rcl.lib.rochester.edu (128.151.244.122) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 15:37:24 -0000 Received: from RCL-Message_Server by rcl.lib.rochester.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:37:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:36:38 -0500 From: "John Schoen" To: Subject: Re: New Jandek CD! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I'm guessing Forced Exposure will have it up on their site within the next = couple of days. They are pretty much "it" when it comes to distribution = for Jandek. John. >>> PID 01/12/01 10:32AM >>> is this only available from CORWOOD? Couldn't find it on Forced Exposure site... --- Seth Tisue wrote: > >>>>> "BlackBook78" =3D=3D BlackBook78=20 > writes: >=20 > BlackBook78> Finally! What great news! But what > about the cover? > =20 > It's extremely dark and blurry, and motion-blurred > too. It looks like > it might be a white-sleeved arm and, um, something, > and another > something. Maybe. If anyone gets a copy and can > make it out let me > know. >=20 > Seth > seth@tisue.net=20 > http://tisue.net=20 >=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Presented by: The APE in The MOON Independent Submarine Productions www.mp3.com/pid=20 www.mp3.com/hamletidiot=20 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010112173006.4712.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 4701 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 17:30:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 17:30:05 -0000 Subject: Seth Tisue: Re: Jandek story To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:30:05 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk ------- Forwarded Message > Hi Seth, I'm ***** ******, a writer with ********** > *****. I'm doing a piece on our local songster-and no, it's > not another find the recluse article. It's about how Jandek > has moved from the ultimate fringe artist to cult hero and > from everyone I've interviewed, they say that you are the > person most responsible. Is that true? Well, there have been some interesting new developments on the Jandek front in the past few years: - Corwood's CD reissue series - Jandek doing a few unaccustomedly non-reclusive things: taking photos for Summersteps for their compilation, and allowing a track of his to be used on the "The Unaccompanied Voice" compilation (Secretly Canadian) - Katy Vine's article in Texas Monthly - Douglas Wolk's piece which ran in some alternative weeklies - Jandek tribute compilation CD (Summersteps Records) - my website (woefully out of date now) - Irwin Chusid's chapter on Jandek in his book "Songs in the Key of Z" Chusid's book has actually done the most in terms of getting the word out about Jandek to a wider audience -- certainly the most since Byron Coley wrote about Jandek in Spin magazine a few times in the late 1980's. But on the balance, I don't think there's been much change in Jandek's status, or popularity, or wherever you locate the difference between "fringe artist" and "cult hero", in the ten years or so I've known about him. If you want to write about it that way in order to have an angle to justify the story to your editors, I'd understand. But I think the story of Jandek remains a soldiering-on-in-obscurity story, not a coming-in-to-the-light story, the above list notwithstanding. I think Vine, Wolk, and Chusid all got this (at least) right in their pieces: they didn't try to sell him as up-and-coming. What has changed with my website is that now people who are interested in Jandek can find out more about him relatively easily. Before, if you hadn't happened to have seen one of the Spin pieces, the only way to find out even basic stuff (like that he had so many albums, and that the first one came out in 1978) was via the fanzine/collector grapevine, or like I did: by finding his albums in the stacks at a college radio station (hopefully with helpful comments from music directors written on them). A listener might hear his name dropped in the press (like when Kurt Cobain mentioned him in Spin in 1993) or hear a track on college radio but it would really be a challenge to find out anything about him unless you knew someone who was "in the know". Now that's not true anymore. Also, the fact that all the CD reissues are coming out means that increasingly you can get a handle on Jandek's past with your own ears, easily. Throughout the 1980's, if you wanted to hear any Jandek LP all you had to do was order it from Corwood. But all the old LP's went out of print around 1990, so for the past decade you'd either have to hunt down used copies (very, very difficult) or know a person or radio station with a stash. Together, the website and the reissues mean the stage has been set for word about Jandek to spread more rapidly than it could have before, but is it happening? Is Jandek becoming a cult hero? I think not. His music is just as harrowing and impenetrable as ever -- it's not the kind of thing that merely requires more exposure to catch on, even in the "cult hero" sense of catching on. That's the difference between Jandek and, say, Daniel Johnston. Jandek is not fun or amusing. He's not a lovable, harmless eccentric like most of the subjects of Chusid's book. It's true that Jandek went through a more "fun" and/or "accessible" period during the mid-to-late 1980's: fun on records like "Telegraph Melts" with Jandek and Nancy hollering silly lyrics back and forth at each other, and accessible on records like "You Walk Alone" where Jandek employed a technically proficient second guitarist and stuck closer to blues/rock sounds and forms. But it'll be another couple years before these records, Jandek's best shot at attracting a Johnston-style cult of patronization, are back in print. And for the last ten years his music has been heading straight in the opposite direction. In the early 90's he reverted completely to the bleak and forbidding solo acoustic aesthetic of his earliest recordings. And lately he's been indulging a taste for perverse experiments in expectation frustration. This has culminated in his brand new CD, "Put My Dream On This Planet", which has no instruments on it, just close to an hour of solo vocals spread over only three tracks. It's sure to test the patience even of fans, not to mention anyone just getting into Jandek. (It might be brilliant, I don't know yet, it just came in the mail yesterday.) Well, that's my take on what's up with Jandek these days. Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net ------- End of Forwarded Message Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 10568 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 19:21:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vader.websoft.net) (207.235.44.191) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 19:21:01 -0000 From: "Rick Mantler" To: Subject: Who/What Is Jandek? Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:49:47 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-reply-to: Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Greetings, Jandek fans. I am quite new to the Jandek fold exclusively as a result of Chusin's book and CD given to me as a gift which I found fascinating and far better than it had to be. Little did I know that Daniel Johnston lives with his folks right outside of Houston! Little did I know that I've missed several of his performances at a live music venue no more than three city blocks from my home. I will most certainly *not* be missing his next show. Being a Jandek rookie, I have quickly fallen into the trap of wanting to demystify him/it/they. It helps that I've lived in Houston for over 20 years. My profession also gives me an advantage. In the tradition of Katy Vine's article, I won't disclose the key specifics of what I have found out of respect for Jandek's apparently very real desire to be left alone (although I think one must admit that his behavior just begs for this brand of chasing/researching that people like myself are compelled to engage in). Call it stalking if you like, but that strikes me as rather silly. One element that is no secret is that Jandek is closely associated with a person by the name of Sterling R. Smith. What we do not know with any certainty at all is if they are the same person. I haven't been able to figure that out yet. Since I have no intention of invading Smith's privacy, I will probably not be able to figure that part of the mystery out. Given the duration and volume of Jandek's output, it is difficult to sympathize with his ostensible desire to "be left alone", but I'm in no position to second guess his motives. His cryptic modes of communication *seem* deliberate and calculated to elicit persistent curiousity among the cult-minded, but quite frankly, I haven't a clue. I can say with absolute certainty that Sterling R. Smith is a very real person and is now in his mid to late 50's. Yep, he's a baby boomer. He is also *definitely* the point man for Corwood Industries. He also lives alarmingly close to my office in a surprisingly expensive brand new townhome (for those of you who don't live in Houston, there is a process going on that involves the mowing down of historic homes in our "just outside of downtown" area which are then rapidly replaced with $250,000 townhomes spaced literally inches apart). Sterling R. Smith lives in one of these such townhomes. He is not poor by any stretch of the imagination. As Ms. Vine referenced in her article, if you know a little bit about public records and are sufficiently motivated, you would be amazed what you can find out, and I've found out quite a bit. As a sidenote, I read previously on this list that Smith/Jandek/??? had told somebody that the "house" at 3333 Cummins was something from the distant past. This is not possible because I drove by 3333 Cummins and it is an *enormous* apartment complex that has been there for at least 20 years, if not considerably longer. If he lived there, it was in an apartment, and a reasonably nice one at that. Note that the old Corwood Industries address/phone listing does not provide an apartment number, effectively making that address worthless given the hundreds of apartment units at the 3333 Cummins address. I think we can probably safely dismiss the notion that Jandek is a mental incompetent living in a shack down by the ship channel making records with sticks and rocks. Being that I very nearly drive right by this guy's townhome on my way home from work, I may learn more in time. The whole body of data is so self-contradictory as to be dizzying. How could the Jandek we know possibly be a highly successful (or just plain well-to-do) baby boomer living in a very pricey brand new Houston inner loop townhome? The crazy person/shack theory makes a lot more sense, but all of the available information speaks strongly to the contrary. In closing, I'd say that I'm somewhat inclined to agree with those who suggest that Sterling Smith may simply be acting as an agent on behalf of Jandek (whether Jandek is an individual or a collective of some sort). Has anybody ever read any interesting notes scrawled in the rideout grooves in his records? Is there anything written there at all? If there are any journalists out there that need help researching a Jandek story, let me know. I'll do my best to maintain the balance between the intense curiousity Jandek, intentionally or unintentionally, has created, and Sterling R. Smith's seemingly sincere request to be left unpursued. In any event, Jandek done a phenomenally effective job of leaving a trail of crumbs behind him that somehow intensify the mystery the more intensely one attempts to decrypt the crumbs (so to speak). Please send any specific requests for information or help to my home email address at: mantler@blkbox.com And no, I won't attempt to charge for my help (assuming it is wanted by any living human). Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 17537 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 21:30:35 -0000 Received: from mail.mailstart.com (207.231.76.67) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 21:30:35 -0000 Received: from tan [207.231.76.119] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A774113E00BC; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:30:28 -0800 To: rmantler@intelnetinc.com CC: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: smathesn@istar.ca Subject: RE: Who/What Is Jandek? Message-Id: <12010112.48629@198.103.138.130> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:30:35 -0800 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk How can you say with certainty that this is the right Sterling R. Smith? Did you tail him to the Corwood PO Box or something? Gotta admit too that I was bummed out by the revelations in the Vine article - Jandek always struck me as something akin to a blues singer for working-class loners, and finding out he's likely of a relatively ritzy status adds an incongruous element of "poseyness" to the whole thing - not that anything inherent about the music necessitates a low-income background, but the whole atmosphere works to give that impression... ***** I can say with absolute certainty that Sterling R. Smith is a very real person and is now in his mid to late 50's. Yep, he's a baby boomer. He is also *definitely* the point man for Corwood Industries. He also lives alarmingly close to my office in a surprisingly expensive brand new townhome (for those of you who don't live in Houston, there is a process going on that involves the mowing down of historic homes in our "just outside of downtown" area which are then rapidly replaced with $250,000 townhomes spaced literally inches apart). Sterling R. Smith lives in one of these such townhomes. He is not poor by any stretch of the imagination. ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18443 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 21:45:22 -0000 Received: from www.cyberbuilding.com (HELO webmail.cyberbuilding.com) (207.124.68.198) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 21:45:22 -0000 Received: from [192.168.10.72] ([207.124.68.142]) by webmail.cyberbuilding.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G71N2T00.Q96 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:44:53 -0500 X-Sender: dbcloud@popserver.panix.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <12010112.48629@198.103.138.130> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:55:27 -0500 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Douglas Wolk Subject: RE: Who/What Is Jandek? Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >Gotta admit too that I was bummed out by the revelations in the >Vine article - Jandek always struck me as something akin to a >blues singer for working-class loners, and finding out he's likely >of a relatively ritzy status adds an incongruous element of "poseyness" >to the whole thing - not that anything inherent about the music >necessitates a low-income background, but the whole atmosphere >works to give that impression... I don't think anything that anyone does persistently for 22 years counts as "posey" by any stretch of the imagination... everyone's entitled to an interior life, an art-making impulse and an aesthetic, and it doesn't necessitate starving in a garret. If he's managed to do okay for himself, good for him. d. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19113 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 21:54:12 -0000 Received: from mail.consultech.net (12.2.37.32) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 21:54:12 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.11] [63.87.46.102] by mail.consultech.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A7AD167200F8; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:56:13 EST User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:53:37 +0800 Subject: RE: Who/What Is Jandek? From: Eric Weddle To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >Gotta admit too that I was bummed out by the revelations in the >Vine article - Jandek always struck me as something akin to a >blues singer for working-class loners, and finding out he's likely >of a relatively ritzy status adds an incongruous element of "poseyness" >to the whole thing - not that anything inherent about the music >necessitates a low-income background, but the whole atmosphere >works to give that impression... I find that to be an absurd comment. Jandek probably looses about $1000 per CD release. I am sure he took an even greater loss with all of the LPs. If Jandek did not have a job that afforded him the ability to release album after album, with seemingly no intent on recouping the costs, than he would be even more of a mystery. A person's real or imagined wealth should not make their art any less genuine. There is no argument about him having an air of "poseyness". The fact that he has continued to release albums shows an undying dedication and vision which, to me, seems unmatched by any other artist. Eric -- Family Vineyard PO Box 2161 Bloomington, IN 47402 http://www.family-vineyard.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 21723 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 22:41:18 -0000 Received: from f79.law7.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.79) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 22:41:18 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:40:51 -0800 Received: from 209.91.128.105 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 22:40:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.91.128.105] From: "Darin Mitchell" To: eric@fvrec.com, jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: RE: Who/What Is Jandek? Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 22:40:51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2001 22:40:51.0851 (UTC) FILETIME=[B774B5B0:01C07CE8] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >A person's real or imagined wealth should not make their art any less >genuine. I totally agree with this. In fact, I hope that Jandek is rich as fuck. That would be just another fuck-you to the impatient, the frauds, the poseurs etc... M. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22065 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 22:46:09 -0000 Received: from bert.traverse.net (HELO neumann.traverse.net) (207.140.226.2) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 22:46:09 -0000 Received: from pm3-a-s16.traverse.net ([12.2.89.112] helo=gtii.com) by neumann.traverse.net with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 14HD2f-0008B6-00 for jandek@cs.nwu.edu; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:51:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3A5F8B86.16B17EFE@gtii.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:56:06 -0500 From: Brian X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: New Jandek CD! References: <20010112072742.8116.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk hmmm.... Maybe "The Beginning" was referring to the beginning of a new style for J? I mean, the title track was a piano solo... perhaps he's keen on reinventing himself....? I'm very excited about this new CD! Seth Tisue wrote: > > Package from Corwood today -- it's the new Jandek CD for 2000 (well, a > couple weeks late, but it says "2000" on the back). > > It's called "Put My Dream On This Planet". Here's the track titles > and times: > > 1. I Need Your Life (28:43) > 2. It's Your House (22:14) > 3. I Went Outside (1:17) > > Crazy! But wait, there's more... > > It's all solo voice! No instruments! (Well, I haven't actually > listened to the whole thing yet, but no instruments in my sampling so > far.) Just Jandek! Rambling at you for almost an hour! > > It's sort of spoken/sung -- more sung, using blues intervals and > rhythms, so it comes off as closer to music than a poetry reading. > It's similar in feel to the solo voice tracks on Captain Beefheart's > "Trout Mask Replica". > > It's super lo-fi, but very silent whenever he pauses, like it was > recorded on a voice-activated cassette recorder. > > Enclosed catalog had a note to the effect that the next reissue, of > "Your Turn to Fall", would be out in a few weeks. > > Seth > seth@tisue.net > http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23072 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 23:05:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vader.websoft.net) (207.235.44.191) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 23:05:16 -0000 From: "Rick Mantler" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Who/What Is Jandek? Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:34:03 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-reply-to: <12010112.48629@198.103.138.130> Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk How can you say with certainty that this is the right Sterling R. Smith? Did you tail him to the Corwood PO Box or something? Oh, God. No, no, no. Being that I am new to the mailing list (and what will probably turn out to be little more than the temporary and mild pursuit of the mystery of Jandek), I am expecting to be very nearly flamed to death over my effort to at least partially figure out what the deal is here. If I describe how I tracked down the info, I fear the annoyance that might befall Mr. Smith as a result. I'll be vague and try. I think I can safely say (without subjecting Mr. Smith to more of what he may consider to be harassment) that the way I got my answers was by cross referencing all of the bits and pieces I have collected via a variety of public records. There are certain types of public records that allow for home *and* alternate mailing addresses (typically P.O. boxes), and when I found the one that included *both* the Corwood P.O. box *and* the home address I found, I knew I had the right guy (among a series of other perfect match factors). It helps tremendously to figure out what his middle name is. It turns out there are far fewer Sterling R. Smith's in Texas than you might imagine, and the demographics of the others were so far off they weren't even worth pursuing. I am absolutely sincere when I say I don't want to be responsible for causing this guy any grief. Obviously, he has his reasons, whatever they may be. I must say that I found the notion that Jandek might be the mentally disturbed son of the kind of person who Mr. Smith appears to be to be compelling, but not likely. That would explain where he got the resources to create, have produced, and distribute his records. I think it is easy to drastically underestimate the resources (financial, mental, and otherwise) that it takes to do what he's been doing music business-wise for the past 23 years or so. It would also explain his attitude particularly obvious in the Vine article- it seems as if he is trying to protect somebody. This would make perfect sense if the "mentally disturbed son" theory is correct. Certainly "dad" wouldn't want his "son" exposed to what often seems to be the somewhat cruel criticism of his musical efforts. Unfortunately, the probable age differential between father and son pretty much kills the whole idea. I believe that Jandek and Smith are one in the same. I'm not suggesting that he's sold millions of albums (I'm not *that* Jandek illiterate), but what he *has* accomplished has required quite a bit of effort, especially considering that he started with vinyl. You can't press "just a couple" of records without getting seriously raped on the setup costs, not to mention having full 4-color jackets printed up. At least with CD's, you can burn 'em one at a time at home or just buy a duplicator. Point being: prior to at-home CD burning techonology becoming available to Joe Average, the concept of "do it yourself" recordings was pretty much out of the question unless you simply made cassettes (I can hear the under 30 crowd laughing at me at this very moment). Gotta admit too that I was bummed out by the revelations in the Vine article - Jandek always struck me as something akin to a blues singer for working-class loners, and finding out he's likely of a relatively ritzy status adds an incongruous element of "poseyness" to the whole thing - not that anything inherent about the music necessitates a low-income background, but the whole atmosphere works to give that impression... It's just so damned hard to say. Is it a prank? Is it a sincere musical effort? I simply cannot tell. I can say, though, that the very first time that the Jandek song on the Chusin disc came through my speakers, I was immediately and simultaneously creeped out and fascinated. I got the feeling that this is not a person I would like stalking me (irony, anyone?). I got the feeling this is not a person I would want hating me. No matter how hard I listen, I can't discern any smug pranksterism present. I do believe he's got me beat. Well done, Jandek. Jandek- 1 Me- 0 Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24196 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 23:24:44 -0000 Received: from www.cyberbuilding.com (HELO webmail.cyberbuilding.com) (207.124.68.198) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 23:24:44 -0000 Received: from [192.168.10.72] ([207.124.68.142]) by webmail.cyberbuilding.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G71ROH00.C85 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 06:24:17 -0500 X-Sender: dbcloud@popserver.panix.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <12010112.48629@198.103.138.130> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:34:53 -0500 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Douglas Wolk Subject: RE: Who/What Is Jandek? Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk At 5:34 PM -0600 1/12/01, Rick Mantler wrote: >I'm not suggesting that he's sold millions of albums (I'm not *that* Jandek >illiterate), but what he *has* accomplished has required quite a bit of >effort, especially considering that he started with vinyl. You can't press >"just a couple" of records without getting seriously raped on the setup >costs, not to mention having full 4-color jackets printed up. At least with >CD's, you can burn 'em one at a time at home or just buy a duplicator. >Point being: prior to at-home CD burning techonology becoming available to >Joe Average, the concept of "do it yourself" recordings was pretty much out >of the question unless you simply made cassettes (I can hear the under 30 >crowd laughing at me at this very moment). Not the case. Making 100 LPs w/ printed 4-color jackets (and weren't a lot of the early Jandek albums in b/w covers?) might well be prohibitively expensive on a cost-per-unit basis, but for the last 20 years or so it hasn't been hard to make 1000 LPs with packaging for $2000 (and in the Katy Vine story, didn't the person from the pressing plant say "we've been working with him for a long time, we wouldn't do this for just anybody" or something similar?). There are zillions of private-press LPs from the '70s and '80s out there--Janky was just a lot more persistent about it. I also get the sense that making money off Jandek albums has never been a concern for him nearly as much as getting them out into the world where people can hear them (hence his early habit of sending out boxes of them to people who noticed them and said nice things, or in fact _any_ things, about them). Corwood albums wholesale for less than any other label's that I'm aware of--I think the idea is just to charge a nominal amount, to make the transaction meaningful. d. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7403 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2001 23:14:49 -0000 Received: from imo-r13.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.67) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Jan 2001 23:14:49 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.b0.f076565 (4219) for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:14:10 -0500 (EST) From: BlackBook78@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:14:10 EST Subject: New Album To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b0.f076565.2794de42_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_b0.f076565.2794de42_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So Seth, have you had a chance to listen closely to the new album? Any thoughts/impressions/ideas? Has anyone else on the list received it? I'm still waiting on mine..... --part1_b0.f076565.2794de42_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So Seth, have you had a chance to listen closely to the new album?  Any
thoughts/impressions/ideas? Has anyone else on the list received it?  I'm
still waiting on mine..... --part1_b0.f076565.2794de42_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 17699 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2001 12:59:53 -0000 Received: from server42.aitcom.net (HELO laudanum.net) (208.234.0.36) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2001 12:59:53 -0000 Received: from alias.aliasfrequencies.org (CPE-144-132-241-44.nsw.bigpond.net.au [144.132.241.44]) by laudanum.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18248 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:59:51 -0500 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010117234550.00c8b7a0@aliasfrequencies.org> X-Sender: alias@aliasfrequencies.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:01:23 +1100 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: "shannon o'neill" Subject: intro In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk hello, i'm new to the list - any other australians here? brief intro - i first heard about jandek in spin mag's 'most influential 80s artists' article (strange since i've only ever read a handful of spins). i was intrigued, but didn't get to hear any of his music until recently, thanks to napster. now i'm hooked and have bought three of his cds so far, with many more to come i'm sure. i also make music (of the electronic variety) and am thinking of covering a jandek song on my next album, plus i've made short films, including a doco on sydney outsider band the mu-mesons.. the katy vine article seems like required reading, but i've been unlucky in my attempts to find it. the texas monthly archive is for subscribers only, and i've yet to find a copy of it on the net. hopefully someone here can direct me to a copy (e.g. in the list archives) or even forward it to me - it would be most appreciated. thanks shannon aliasfrequencies.org Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 1414 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2001 19:15:50 -0000 Received: from mail.consultech.net (12.2.37.32) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2001 19:15:50 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.35] [63.87.47.11] by mail.consultech.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A9FA3A300F6; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:17:30 EST User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:15:05 +0800 Subject: New CD From: Eric Weddle To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Does anyone find it coincidental that the new album, "Put My Dream On This Planet," which according thus far to Seth is a capella, is the first album to be released since Jandek appeared on the "Unaccompanied Voice," an a capella compilation that Secretly Canadian released at the end of summer? Someone on the list stated that they felt Jandek wasn't too interested in "Unaccompanied Voice" because he did not provide a new song. "Om," from Somebody in the Snow (1990) was used. Sec. Can. did ask Jandek for a contribution and he (Corwood) replied (something like): "We will provide nothing new but you are welcome to take what already has been recorded." No songs were given as choices, he said to take anything. Shortly after getting the letter I talked with Calvin Johnson who said that early on in the label's history K asked Jandek to either do a 7" or be on a comp (I can't remember which) and Corwood replied in the same way. (Johnson also told me that during a Beat Happening tour through Texas he called Jandek/Smith/Corwood/etc and asked if the band could stay the night and the person on the other end said "we don't think that would be a good idea." eric -- Family Vineyard PO Box 2161 Bloomington, IN 47402 http://www.family-vineyard.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 1764 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2001 19:19:03 -0000 Received: from gtei1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.40.145) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2001 19:19:03 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (adsl-141-158-71-5.pittpa.adsl.bellatlantic.net [141.158.71.5]) by gtei1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17173 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:18:42 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: maurice@mail.mac.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:18:15 -0500 To: From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Re: New CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk At 2:15 PM +0800 1/17/01, Eric Weddle wrote: > >(Johnson >also told me that during a Beat Happening tour through Texas he called >Jandek/Smith/Corwood/etc and asked if the band could stay the night and the >person on the other end said "we don't think that would be a good idea." I've heard this story, too--it's a classic. Just adds to the mystique. -- Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3859 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2001 19:54:06 -0000 Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (63.211.172.74) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2001 19:54:06 -0000 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"ki1X92maXV6QklUPABtL0Qd53YodFXtQso8eybzmCmv0BA3AmjY6xQ=="> Received: (from benthos@juno.com) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id FTZT6FQQ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:53:23 EST To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:51:29 -0700 Subject: the Katy vine article Message-ID: <20010117.125135.-205845.1.benthos@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-3,13,24,34,48,66,80,96,115,120,137,148,155,160,167,173,180,192,197-199,209 From: Chris D Woodward Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Jandek and Me He's a cult hero to deejays and record collectors, but he won't talk to the press–or at least he wouldn't, until I found him in Houston. I think. by Katy Vine Although Jandek has put out 27 original recordings since 1978—more than Prince, Bruce Springsteen, or countless other stars—he isn't a household name. But he's definitely famous in certain circles. He was picked by Spin magazine as one of the ten "most interesting" musicians of the late eighties and name-dropped by Kurt Cobain, and record collectors have cradled his albums in their arms for years. Adding to his cultish status is the fact that he's a J. D. Salinger-style recluse: All that's known about him is that he probably lives in Houston. But this spring I found the person I believe is Jandek, and to my amazement, he invited me to go out for a beer. He's not what you'd call an ordinary guy, though given his creative output—one of the most unusual bodies of work in recent memory—it would have been surprising if he hadn't shown flashes of eccentricity. There has been, on average, one full-length Jandek (pronounced Jan-deck) release every year since 1981. Each album or CD cover is illustrated with a grainy photo depicting either a house with the curtains drawn, furniture, or the same tidy, expressionless, fair-featured young man. The back covers are white with black type listing nothing but the title, the song list, and an address: P.O. Box 15375, Houston, TX, 77220. If you line up all the records side by side, the uniformity of their design is enough to give you a headache. And that's before you hear the music. You cannot play air guitar to Jandek, and you can't snap your fingers or sing along. It sounds like his guitar strings are horribly out of tune, yet he strums away as if nothing is wrong. His songs typically last for two to four minutes. His guitar playing—if you can call it that—usually consists of his repeating two chords over and over. He begins by singing in a high voice, holding notes for long periods, and sometimes slides down the scale, reciting dark, deeply personal lyrics so close to the microphone that it's impossible to imagine him performing. It's more like he has crawled in between your ears and sat down for a pow-wow. If you think these oddball characteristics have endeared him to the hipster set, think again; the number of people who consider him a genius could fit in a sedan. But even though most listeners would agree that his records are amateurish, there is something appealing about him. Maybe it lies in the stark, desolate picture of the world he paints in his lyrics, or maybe it's his level of inaccessibility, which is almost unheard of—even for an underground musician. His records have no liner notes, he doesn't perform live, and he has never made a video. He doesn't grant interviews, has never been professionally photographed, and refuses to communicate with the public. All this secrecy gives rise to fascinating theories: that the name of Jandek's record label—Corwood Industries—somehow incorporates his real surname, that he's a mental patient, that he works in a Houston record-pressing plant, that his father works in a record-pressing plant, that it's all a practical joke. "Jandek's not pretentious, but only pretentious people like his music," Cobain told Spin in 1993. If so, there are close to one hundred pretentious people out there, since that's the number of Jandek's fans on an e-mail list kept by Seth Tisue, a Northwestern University graduate student. "You have to have a tolerance for really strange-sounding music," says Tisue, who hosts a Jandek Web site . "I mean, not just strange sounding but almost amateur sounding. His guitar is out of tune, and he can't sing. People who like Jandek also appreciate the whole loner mystique." Some diehards try to find similarities between Jandek's albums and those by other artists, most of them almost as obscure: the solo release by Moby Grape's Alexander "Skip" Spence, for instance, or the recordings of sixties proto-punk rockers the Godz. Yet Jandek seems to have conceived his music in creative isolation, almost willing his CDs to be filed in the bin marked "other" at your local record store—that is, if your local record store carried them, which it doesn't. His work is sold only through the mail, though I bet the staff at the post office doesn't have to check Box 15375 that often. Part of Jandek's peculiar charm is that he prefers to sell his albums in bulk. Early in his career, selected fans were occasionally mailed boxes of 50 LPs and asked to give them away. People who wrote to Corwood Industries received a catalog of dirt-cheap releases: In the eighties you could get a box of 25 for $50, though now that the label has switched to CDs and no longer carries anything from before 1994, you get 20 for $80. A line at the bottom of the current catalog states that you can buy 1,000 copies wholesale for $3,000 (by comparison, the out-of-print LPs can sell for as much as $40 each). In the old days copies were also mailed to college and co-op radio stations, which became Jandek's window to the world. He wasn't always played with urgency, but if a station manager was courteous enough to at least keep his albums on the shelf and not turn them into Frisbees, a new group of deejays would rediscover him every few years. Only a few fans have had phone contact with Corwood Industries, but they all report the same thing: There's something strange about the man or men involved. Some have been lucky enough to reach Jandek's representative, Sterling Smith, who nervously and politely says as little as possible. One of the first deejays to give Jandek airplay and open the lines of communication was Irwin Chusid of the alternative station WFMU in East Orange, New Jersey. According to his forthcoming book, Songs in the Key of Z: The Curious Universe of Outsider Music (A Cappella Books), Chusid sent a letter to the post office box in 1980 stating, "I've concluded [this] is one of the most frightening albums I've ever heard." Someone claiming to be a representative of Corwood Industries replied with a rambling phone call in which he said that Jandek had sold only two copies of the record, that he had written seven novels but burned the manuscripts after they were rejected by New York publishers, and that he'd recorded enough material for ten albums and hoped to release them all. Though Chusid's conversations were brief—he had several more just like the first—they were long and enlightening compared with other fans' tales of phoned and written responses. Certainly they were enlightening compared with mine. The first time I tried to contact Corwood Industries I got the number from the phone book. When I called, I got an answering machine, but instead of leaving a message, I decided to write a letter, which I figured would be less intrusive. Two weeks after mailing it, I hadn't received a response, so I broke down and called again, only to find the machine had been disconnected. I began feeling that I might as well have written to the North Pole requesting Christmas gifts. Finally, after a month and a half, I got a call from a man claiming to be Chris Puccio of Houston Records, a family-owned record-manufacturing plant. Though Puccio was friendly and professional, I couldn't stop thinking about the Jandek record-plant rumors, and as he talked, I grew more and more skeptical of his identity. I asked him a few questions, but he wanted to talk business and figure out what happened to an order I had placed for twenty Jandek CDs. During the conversation we discovered that the CDs had been mailed to my old address. There was silence, and then Puccio said with a chuckle, "Wow, they're in for a surprise." Puccio, my instincts told me, was not Jandek, and I didn't get the sense that he was related to him either. But after I hung up the phone and reflected on the call, I was struck by how bizarre it was. He wouldn't say anything about his client except, "There are only a few independent artists we'll do this for." Another dead end. I decided to go to Houston. Looking for Jandek wasn't easy. I don't recommend it. It required me to go on what seemed like an endless series of wild-goose chases, all in the hope of finding someone who didn't want to be found. Then again, my perseverance paid off. After a couple of weeks of research—both on the phone and in various offices where public records are on file—I developed various leads, but none panned out. After all but exhausting my list of possibilities, I rang one final doorbell in one of the city's nicer neighborhoods. When I heard the garage door open, I walked back to the driveway and approached a man who looked like a late-thirties version of the youth on the record covers. He was neatly dressed in a long-sleeved white shirt with beautiful cufflinks, black pants, a black tie, and black shoes. I introduced myself and asked him if he knew anything about Corwood Industries. He paused for a long time, then said, "What do you want to know?" I asked if Corwood Industries was involved in projects other than Jandek records. He said yes but he couldn't tell me anything about them. I asked if Jandek ever intended to be a cult figure. He said he wasn't comfortable with the question. After a heavy sigh he pulled his jaw to the side, looking amused, and asked how I knew about Jandek. I told him I saw a row of his records in an Appleton, Wisconsin, radio station seven years ago. (He told me later that I had earned his trust with that anecdote since he had been to Appleton and knew that there were Jandek records at the local college station.) When I asked if he could tell me anything about Jandek, he started to appear upset. I said that I didn't want to make him uncomfortable, but it was too late. There was an awkward silence as he stared at the ground. His shirt was now soaked with sweat—presumably from the heat, though it might have been the questions. Suddenly he looked up and asked, "Do you drink beer?" He didn't want there to be any physical evidence of our meeting. He wouldn't draw me a map to our destination, he wouldn't let me tape-record him, and at his request I cannot reveal his name, occupation, address, or phone number. But I have no doubt he is indeed the person who makes the music, even if it was hard to imagine this affluent-looking, well-groomed man writing such lyrics as "You can put your bloody mind in a paper bag and eat it for lunch," or "Don't wanna be clanky but here comes Janky." I followed him to a parking lot and walked a few blocks with him to an upscale bar—I'm duty-bound not to say which bar—where he introduced me to three friends dressed just as he was. Since he didn't tell them where I worked or why I was with him, they winked and nudged at each other as we made our way to the back patio. Except for a few animated moments, he remained solemn, choosing his words carefully, speaking slowly, and ending his sentences with a concentrated gaze. Though he was hesitant to discuss Jandek, he was more than willing to talk at length about food, gardening, and allergies. A nagging voice in the back of my mind kept saying, "Great, now I can tell the world Jandek's opinion on the milk-allergy connection." Eventually, however, he gave me more information than I had ever expected to get. The people who attended clubs, he told me, were more interested in a musician's image than music. Bands didn't interest him, and though he didn't say so, I got the impression that he wasn't the type of person who would run to a record store and snatch up CDs. When I told him Jandek's music sounded as if it were cultivated in a hothouse, his eyes lit up. "That's exactly the word I would have chosen," he said. Like a well-traveled businessman, he had visited big and small cities all over the U.S., Mexico, and Europe. He once even made a trip to a North Texas town because he heard nobody there had cavities. When my college, the University of Wisconsin at Madison, came up in conversation, he said he had been there and that it rained the whole time. Maybe he had forgotten that Jandek once recorded a song called "Rain in Madison." Maybe he was intentionally leaving me a clue. While he doesn't watch TV and never surfs the Web, he frequently goes out to see movies. He enjoys discussing films and had recently seen The Matrix. I asked him if he liked it. He thought for a while, then said that he did. It turns out that he had studied philosophy in college, so the movie's concept of a reality you can choose to accept (by taking a red pill) or ignore (by taking a blue pill) appealed to him. "Sometimes I feel like I took the blue pill," he said wryly, explaining that his white-collar career was becoming "of increasing disinterest" to him. He said he had enthusiasm for it but wished that he could spend more time with creative pursuits. He couldn't, he said, for fear that inventive energy would bring destruction—the whole "candle that burns brightest burns out fastest" scenario. Unlike most musicians, who are concerned about profit, fame, and critical acclaim, he seemed content that Jandek's recordings were merely out there. Reviews don't faze him, though he liked one critic's description of the music as "pentatonic refractive dissonance." "That's something you can use," he said. "Okay," I replied. "So do you want people to 'get it'?" "There's nothing to get," he said. Our conversation was coming to a close. The entire time, I had referred to Jandek in the third person—not because I doubted I was talking to him, but as a nod to his discomfort. Still, I was confused when he told me quite frantically that he wasn't important to Jandek or Corwood Industries. Was this more philosophy? Was he just panicking? Had he convinced himself that he was only Jandek while he was recording? He wanted me to understand but wouldn't address the issue directly. He had obviously thought about the difference between himself and his alter ego and agonized over its logic. This was what he came up with to clarify his point: "You're a journalist, but you grow snap beans." We finished a second round of beers. I tried several times to pay the bill, but he said I had come all this way to talk to him and that I should spend the money on gasoline. He walked me to my car and said good-bye, stressing that even though he had had a nice time, he didn't want to be contacted in person by a fan or a journalist or anybody about Jandek ever again. I said that I understood. Then we both drove away. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5500 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2001 20:19:25 -0000 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 17 Jan 2001 20:19:25 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.31.f396c57 (15889) for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from web41.aolmail.aol.com (web41.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.2]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v77.35) with ESMTP; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:18:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:18:34 EST From: BlackBook78@aol.com Subject: Re: New CD To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <31.f396c57.2797581b@aol.com> Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk When I spoke with Sterling in regards to the compilations Jandek has appeared on, he mentioned that there was another one besides Secretly Canadian that had come out in the 80's on Vinyl, though I am assuming that it was a limited run that didnt last long, and he didn't even remember the name of it. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19485 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 01:16:06 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 01:16:06 -0000 Received: from digger.excite.com ([199.172.152.82]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20010118011535.CEMS14313.fortune.excite.com@digger.excite.com> for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:15:35 -0800 Message-ID: <23152809.979780535907.JavaMail.imail@digger.excite.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:15:35 -0800 (PST) From: Ronald Karlin To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: New CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 64.197.80.210 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:18:15 -0500, Maurice Rickard wrote: > At 2:15 PM +0800 1/17/01, Eric Weddle wrote: > > > >(Johnson > >also told me that during a Beat Happening tour through Texas he called > >Jandek/Smith/Corwood/etc and asked if the band could stay the night and the > >person on the other end said "we don't think that would be a good idea." > > I've heard this story, too--it's a classic. Just adds to the mystique. > Perhaps it was because Jandek has the good taste not to hang out with a bunch of bullshit talentless pretenders like Butt Happening, an utterly useless band if there ever was one. Asswipe Johnson needs to get a real job. And never mind his Dub Narcotic project, he should be lynched for that one Ron the dink _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 20310 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 01:31:28 -0000 Received: from web2305.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.80) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 01:31:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20010118013127.2573.qmail@web2305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.26.69.167] by web2305.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:31:27 PST Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:31:27 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Subject: jandek mp3s on usenet To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1957747793-979781487=:2532" Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --0-1957747793-979781487=:2532 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was just over in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 and "Lost Cause" has been posted. Get it while the gettins' good. -HB --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. --0-1957747793-979781487=:2532 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I was just over in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 and "Lost Cause" has been posted.  Get it while the gettins' good.

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Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. --0-1957747793-979781487=:2532-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25311 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 03:21:03 -0000 Received: from web3802.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.203.173) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 03:21:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20010118032058.29089.qmail@web3802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.122.234.153] by web3802.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:20:58 PST Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:20:58 -0800 (PST) From: PID Subject: Re: New CD To: BlackBook78@aol.com, jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Who had that Calvin story? I didn't get the whole scoop...? --- BlackBook78@aol.com wrote: > When I spoke with Sterling in regards to the > compilations Jandek has appeared on, he mentioned > that there was another one besides Secretly Canadian > that had come out in the 80's on Vinyl, though I am > assuming that it was a limited run that didnt last > long, and he didn't even remember the name of it. ===== ===== Presented by: The APE in The MOON Independent Submarine Productions www.mp3.com/pid www.mp3.com/hamletidiot __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25766 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 03:25:04 -0000 Received: from web3802.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.203.173) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 03:25:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20010118032503.29481.qmail@web3802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.122.234.153] by web3802.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:25:03 PST Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:25:03 -0800 (PST) From: PID Subject: Re: New CD To: Ronald Karlin , jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Well, I don't think THAT! I like Beat Hap tons and Dub Narcotic live...was...fun...but I am surprised that Calvin (or anybody) would be so bold as to ask Jandek if he could stay with him - I mean, though it's the indie types who have "embraced" him, I doubt that he views himself as part of some kind of underground community or punk rock or whatever... --- Ronald Karlin wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:18:15 -0500, Maurice Rickard > wrote: > > > At 2:15 PM +0800 1/17/01, Eric Weddle wrote: > > > > > >(Johnson > > >also told me that during a Beat Happening tour > through Texas he called > > >Jandek/Smith/Corwood/etc and asked if the band > could stay the night and > the > > >person on the other end said "we don't think > that would be a good idea." > > > > I've heard this story, too--it's a classic. Just > adds to the mystique. > > > > > Perhaps it was because Jandek has the good taste not > to hang out with a > bunch of bullshit talentless pretenders like Butt > Happening, an utterly > useless band if there ever was one. Asswipe Johnson > needs to get a real > job. And never mind his Dub Narcotic project, he > should be lynched for that > one > > Ron the dink > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > ===== ===== Presented by: The APE in The MOON Independent Submarine Productions www.mp3.com/pid www.mp3.com/hamletidiot __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26331 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 03:32:33 -0000 Received: from gtei2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.40.146) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 03:32:33 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (adsl-141-158-71-5.pittpa.adsl.bellatlantic.net [141.158.71.5]) by gtei2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA29390 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:32:26 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: maurice@mail.mac.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010118032503.29481.qmail@web3802.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010118032503.29481.qmail@web3802.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:32:07 -0500 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Re: New CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk At 7:25 PM -0800 1/17/01, PID wrote: >Well, I don't think THAT! I like Beat Hap tons and Dub >Narcotic live...was...fun... I second that. Having seen them both live, they were both lots of fun. (Maybe I saw DN on a good night.) >but I am surprised that >Calvin (or anybody) would be so bold as to ask Jandek >if he could stay with him - I mean, though it's the >indie types who have "embraced" him, I doubt that he >views himself as part of some kind of underground >community or punk rock or whatever... Apparently, K used to distribute J's records in the Pacific Northwest, so Calvin had the phone number, and probably just thought... The rest, of course, is history. -- Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 27809 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 04:08:29 -0000 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.36) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 04:08:29 -0000 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.64.a6b1e57 (4340) for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:07:57 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: <64.a6b1e57.2797c61d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:07:57 EST Subject: Re: New CD To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 113 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk If only Calvin, Jandek, and Jad Fair could form a supergroup and take it on the road, that would probably be the moment that music could not possibly progress any further... Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5424 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 08:22:50 -0000 Received: from server42.aitcom.net (HELO laudanum.net) (208.234.0.36) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 08:22:50 -0000 Received: from alias.aliasfrequencies.org (CPE-144-132-241-44.nsw.bigpond.net.au [144.132.241.44]) by laudanum.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21005 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:22:46 -0500 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010118181837.03dfa440@aliasfrequencies.org> X-Sender: alias@aliasfrequencies.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:24:21 +1100 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: "shannon o'neill" Subject: Re: the Katy vine article In-Reply-To: <20010117.125135.-205845.1.benthos@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk thanks chris! the katy vine article was very illuminating, but it also raises plenty of questions. i'm curious to know what the list thinks of the following: do you think that the jandek of recent albums sounds twenty or so years older than his early records? are his albums recorded and released chronologically (i.e. at least one album per year)? or are they the result of a few intense bursts of creativity (e.g. he claimed to have ten albums in the can early on). if, as katy vine suggested, he is now in his late thirties, he must have been in his mid-late teens when his first albums were released. 'they told me i was a fool' doesn't sound like the work of a teenager to me.. adding to the mystery is that the youthful 'jandek' photos on so many of the covers have a late-60s/early-70s look to them. and what teenager has so many spooky photos taken of them? who took them? (makes one wonder about the 'jandek' family..) if katy vine did meet the 'real' jandek, perhaps she just got his age wrong. mid-late forties would seem to fit better. i'm glad that the article goes some way to debunking the condescending myth that he's an idiot-savant. he does seem almost painfully introverted (and was probably a very strange youth) - who knows, perhaps he even has (manic) depression - but such factors would not necessarily prevent him from holding down a job and having friends (i found it spooky when it was noted that his friends looked like him). of course without the often sublime music, these questions would be less interesting, but my mind can't help but race when confronted with such mystery. i believe that mystery is a very important part of art - something that jandek is definitely aware of (and acknowledged in the chusid article). because of that, it is perfectly consistent that he studied philosophy, and deals with religion/spirituality in his songs. sorry if this has all been discussed to death already. as you know, i'm new here. cheers, shannon aliasfrequencies.org At 12:51 PM 17/01/01 -0700, Chris D Woodward wrote: >Jandek and Me Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 20347 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 12:34:03 -0000 Received: from imo-r11.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.65) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 12:34:03 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id a.93.5b28c0a (15903); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:33:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from web48.aolmail.aol.com (web48.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.9]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.13) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:33:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:33:06 EST From: BlackBook78@aol.com Subject: Re: the Katy vine article To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <93.5b28c0a.27983c83@aol.com> Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk If you listen to Chair beside a window, the vocals sound as if he is 18 or 19, so Im assuming that a bulk of music was recorded, therefore none of the albums are new, only new issues of the music. Someone also mentioned once that some of the songs sound like large improvs that have been spliced into individual songs. I am pretty sure that Katy must have met Sterling Smith, whom people think is jandek rather than a mere representative. It definitely sounds like him in the article, unless she found another "Rep" from Corwood who is carrying introvertive tendencies in order to conceal the mystery. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30901 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 16:45:25 -0000 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 16:45:25 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (user-2ive65u.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.24.190]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA21775 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:45:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <009301c0816e$a8397f60$be18f7a5@oemcomputer> From: "Tom Meadows" To: Subject: 746 & 748 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:47:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk hello hello, New to this list but a long time fan of the man... not much to say but I'm curious how many of you out there have each and every recording on Corwood. I'd like to say I do but I'm missing THE ROCKS CRUMBLE and NINE-THIRTY. These two plus the Units one were the first 3 to go out of print (not availlable when I did the popular "box of 25 for $60" way back when). Anyone out there want to scan these so I can count covers whenever I have insomnia. It's tough counting "Photo not available". Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010118194346.8027.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 8018 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 19:43:45 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 19:43:45 -0000 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: 746 & 748 From: Seth Tisue In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:47:58 EST." <009301c0816e$a8397f60$be18f7a5@oemcomputer> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:43:45 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Tom" == Tom Meadows writes: Tom> hello hello, New to this list but a long time fan of the man... Tom> not much to say but I'm curious how many of you out there have Tom> each and every recording on Corwood. Well, I do. (All the vinyl and all the CD's.) Tom> Anyone out there want to scan these so I can count covers Tom> whenever I have insomnia. The reason there isn't a complete set of cover scans on the website is that I haven't owned, or had access to, a scanner large enough to fit an LP on. I've tried doing two scans and patching them together but couldn't get a good result (white-balance problems) and gave up. But, new development: I have a digital camera now so I'm going to use that to get a full set of covers up Real Soon Now. Here's the two you asked for: The Rocks Crumble (1983) http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0746.jpg Nine-Thirty (1985) http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0748.jpg Note that the former is very similar to the cover of The Beginning (1999). Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9008 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 19:57:36 -0000 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (HELO mailbox.mcs.net) (@192.160.127.87) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 19:57:36 -0000 Received: from Mars.mcs.net (bassler@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by mailbox.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02432 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:57:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bassler@Mcs.Net) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:57:34 -0600 (CST) From: RPB X-Sender: bassler@localhost To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: 746 & 748 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk > But, new development: I have a digital camera now so I'm going to use > that to get a full set of covers up Real Soon Now. Here's the two > you asked for: At the very least, Jandek covers never fail to make awesome desktop wallpaper. BTW, for those in the Chicagoland area, Reckless Records carries Jandek CD's. Ryan polyholiday.com/LMP Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010118200152.9484.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 9475 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 20:01:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 20:01:51 -0000 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: the Katy vine article From: Seth Tisue In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:33:06 EST." <93.5b28c0a.27983c83@aol.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:01:51 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "BlackBook78" == BlackBook78 writes: BlackBook78> If you listen to Chair beside a window, the vocals sound BlackBook78> as if he is 18 or 19 I don't think you can pin it that closely. Under 30, certainly. Under 25, probably. Under 20, well, maybe, maybe not. BlackBook78> so Im assuming that a bulk of BlackBook78> music was recorded, therefore none of the albums are BlackBook78> new, only new issues of the music. No, you can definitely hear his voice getting older over the course of his career. Could be true of some of the earlier records -- the reissues that are now available -- not true overall. Listening to the Jandek LP's from 1983-1992 (the out-of-print ones) dispells the impression entirely, at least for me. In addition to the voice, there's also the audible development in Jandek's guitar playing over the years, and the shifting lineups of singers and backup musicians. BlackBook78> Someone also BlackBook78> mentioned once that some of the songs sound like large BlackBook78> improvs that have been spliced into individual songs. I've never gotten that impression. Occasionally a song cuts in or cuts out abruptly, that's about it. Do you have specific examples? BlackBook78> I am pretty sure that Katy must have met Sterling Smith, BlackBook78> whom people think is jandek rather than a mere BlackBook78> representative. It definitely sounds like him in the BlackBook78> article, unless she found another "Rep" from Corwood who BlackBook78> is carrying introvertive tendencies in order to conceal BlackBook78> the mystery. I agree. I don't take seriously the theory that Sterling Smith is just a "representative" of Jandek, for many reasons. The Vine article is one. Several people who have spoken with Sterling Smith on the phone say his voice sounds to them like the one on the records. The same people also say that Smith's evasiveness about his identity and the identity of Jandek very much give the flavor -- the Vine article conveys this as well -- of someone (not very successfully) covering up themselves, not covering for someone else. Nothing's 100% in the world of Jandek, but the theory that Jandek and Sterling Smith aren't one and the same is seriously in need of actual some evidence to support it. While there is plenty of evidence they are the same. Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 10025 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 20:04:30 -0000 Received: from imo-r11.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.65) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 20:04:30 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id 5.4d.6454758 (15899); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from web34.aolmail.aol.com (web34.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.10]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.13) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:03:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:03:36 EST From: BlackBook78@aol.com Subject: Re: 746 & 748 To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <4d.6454758.2798a619@aol.com> Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Jandek looks pretty content in the photo for Nine Thirty (is he wearing flip flops??), now the only cover I need to see that is left is interstellar discussion. Reminds me of the cover for blue corpse, and looks like it was taken the same day as Foreign Keys. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010118200721.10300.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 10289 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 20:07:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 20:07:20 -0000 Subject: Blue Corpse guitarist To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:07:20 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I think I've convinced myself that even though Blue Corpse (1987) is solo-acoustic-guitar-with-vocals, the guitarist is not the same guitarist as on either the earlier or later records, in other words, is not Jandek. He's too proficient and he just sounds different. He *strums*. Jandek does not (on the other records) strum. My tentative theory is that maybe it's the same guy who plays lead electric guitar on the next LP, You Walk Alone (1988). Does anybody who's heard either or both albums, and maybe knows more about guitar playing than I do, have an opinion on this? Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010118201205.10774.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 10765 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 20:12:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 20:12:04 -0000 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: the Katy vine article From: Seth Tisue In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:24:21 +1100." <4.3.2.7.2.20010118181837.03dfa440@aliasfrequencies.org> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:12:04 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "shannon" == shannon o'neill writes: shannon> if katy vine did meet the 'real' jandek, perhaps she just shannon> got his age wrong. mid-late forties would seem to fit shannon> better. Agreed. Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12328 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 20:29:35 -0000 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.40) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 20:29:35 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id 5.a2.eeb8bd4 (15867); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from web34.aolmail.aol.com (web34.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.10]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.13) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:28:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:28:55 EST From: BlackBook78@aol.com Subject: Re: the Katy vine article To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I suppose you are correct in saying that it could be early to late 20's perhaps, then again, you've listened to the albums over a longer period than I, so I trust your opinions, over my speculations that were quickly manufactured. Personally, I feel that Sterling soundeds lke the singer on I Woke Up. Deep husky voice with no accent, very serious, though he does have a sense of humor, the backround extremely silent except for the creaks of the floor. I think I, as well as many others, decide that Sterling wants the music to speak for itself, completely lended to personal idea and emotion sprang from one persons experiences set to music. Sure, Sterling will tell you how many albums he sold last year, what he likes to read, his slight interest in classical music (though he mentioned that everyone to a certain extent is influenced by it, hence the term "classical") I also seriously doubt he uses a voice modifier. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12702 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 20:32:42 -0000 Received: from imo-r18.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.72) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 20:32:42 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id 5.d.f090fd5 (15895); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from web33.aolmail.aol.com (web33.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.9]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.13) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:31:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:31:28 EST From: BlackBook78@aol.com Subject: Re: 746 & 748 To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Yes! I was at Reckless last Saturday and noticed every single one, even with little descriptions...Too bad they dont have any records, though I didnt search too hard. They do have Philosophy of the World on Vinyl though for $20. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26187 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 00:50:53 -0000 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.6) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 00:50:53 -0000 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.a7.aed47fd (4410) for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:50:22 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:50:22 EST Subject: Re: Blue Corpse guitarist To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 113 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk You hear the same style on Lost Cause, but the mood is much more upbeat. "I Know You Well" off Follow Your Footsteps is also obviously the same guy...That particular song is in open G tuning which tends to make that folky stuff a LOT easier to play. Some of Blue Corpse sounds like standard tuning, as does side 2 of On the Way...The point is, it sounds different because the guitar IS tuned, and even on the later blues songs the rhythm guitar is reasonably solid (when you consider the drums and lead guitar it had to accompany). As to whether or not it was really Jandek going through a more melodic phase, who knows... In a message dated 1/18/01 3:07:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, seth@tisue.net writes: > I think I've convinced myself that even though Blue Corpse (1987) is > solo-acoustic-guitar-with-vocals, the guitarist is not the same > guitarist as on either the earlier or later records, in other words, > is not Jandek. He's too proficient and he just sounds different. He > *strums*. Jandek does not (on the other records) strum. My tentative > theory is that maybe it's the same guy who plays lead electric guitar > on the next LP, You Walk Alone (1988). Does anybody who's heard > either or both albums, and maybe knows more about guitar playing than > I do, have an opinion on this? Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26733 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 00:58:09 -0000 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.36) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 00:58:09 -0000 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.b3.5ea0358 (4410) for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:57:38 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:57:38 EST Subject: Re: 746 & 748 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 113 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk So The Rocks Crumble, The Beginning, On the Way, and New Town are all basically from the same photo session....Nine-Thirty, Foreign Keys, You Walk Alone, Blue Corpse and Telegraph Melts all seem to come from another...he should get another 15 album covers out of that roll of film (assuming 24 exposures). In a message dated 1/18/01 2:43:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, seth@tisue.net writes: > The Rocks Crumble (1983) > http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0746.jpg > Nine-Thirty (1985) > http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0748.jpg > > Note that the former is very similar to the cover of The Beginning > (1999). Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 27488 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 01:07:29 -0000 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.1) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 01:07:29 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.c0.ea92b1f (18404); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:06:56 -0500 (EST) From: BlackBook78@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:06:56 EST Subject: Re: 746 & 748 To: NCR13@aol.com, jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c0.ea92b1f.2798ed30_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_c0.ea92b1f.2798ed30_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/18/2001 4:58:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, NCR13@aol.com writes: > So The Rocks Crumble, The Beginning, On the Way, and New Town are all > basically from the same photo session....Nine-Thirty, Foreign Keys, You > Walk > Alone, Blue Corpse and Telegraph Melts all seem to come from another...he > should get another 15 album covers out of that roll of film (assuming 24 > exposures). > > > > Well maybe Nine Thirty, Foreign Keys and You Walk Alone were all in the > same session. Blue Corpse and Modern Dances seem more in the same period. > Jandek "cutting it lose, taking off his shirt, and prancing in front of a > brick wall". --part1_c0.ea92b1f.2798ed30_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/18/2001 4:58:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, NCR13@aol.com
writes:


So The Rocks Crumble, The Beginning, On the Way,  and New Town are all
basically from the same photo session....Nine-Thirty, Foreign Keys, You
Walk
Alone, Blue Corpse and Telegraph Melts all seem to come from another...he
should get another 15 album covers out of that roll of film (assuming 24
exposures).



Well maybe Nine Thirty, Foreign Keys and You Walk Alone were all in the
same session.  Blue Corpse and Modern Dances seem more in the same period.  
Jandek "cutting it lose, taking off his shirt, and prancing in front of a
brick wall".  What is on the cover for Interstellar Discussion?


 --part1_c0.ea92b1f.2798ed30_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 27694 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 01:08:26 -0000 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.10) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 01:08:26 -0000 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.85.5b6abc8 (4410) for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:07:51 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: <85.5b6abc8.2798ed65@aol.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:07:49 EST Subject: Re: the Katy vine article To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 113 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk > BlackBook78> Someone also > BlackBook78> mentioned once that some of the songs sound like large > BlackBook78> improvs that have been spliced into individual songs. > > I've never gotten that impression. Occasionally a song cuts in or > cuts out abruptly, that's about it. Do you have specific examples? The Living End sounds like it was edited down into coherent bits from a big jam session, though that's very unlike the other LPs of that era. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28075 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 01:13:06 -0000 Received: from web4003.mail.yahoo.com (216.115.104.37) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 01:13:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20010119011305.23695.qmail@web4003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.94.42.27] by web4003.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:13:05 PST Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:13:05 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Rosevere Subject: Re: Blue Corpse guitarist To: Seth Tisue Cc: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I have to agree, Seth. Even though his recording methods change all the time, close inspection to that recording indicates that Jandek (the guy singing) is recording live in the same room as another guitarist, who is doing the playing. At one point during "Down at the Ball Park" (1:33 exactly), Jandek says "Take it..take it Eddie", which could either be a joke name, or the name of the real person. Either way, Jandek is not playing guitar, someone else is: someone who picks, strums actual real chords. Also compare "Lavender" with any other tune (not from "You Walk Alone"). It's not impeccably played, but it's certainly more capable than the guitarist on "Crack A Smile", for example. And the drums on "Lavander" are very similar to those played on "One Minute" and "The Electric End", to name a few Jandek tracks. That makes me think Jandek is on drums those songs (btw, that's probably 'Eddie' speaking at the end of "One Minute"). However, that's not to say that a song like "The Electric End" has someone else there too. It doesn't sound like it to me, it sounds like Jandek all the way through - possibly a 4-track recording (drums in stereo on 2 tracks with tin whistle & howling played at the same time, and 2 guitar parts recorded on 2 seperate tracks panned dead center, for the effect of 2 guitarists, or a really whacked-out solo performance). I'm not really a guitarist, but a drummer and recording buff who's spent too much time dissecting the Beatles 4-track tapes. Does it show? ~LR > I think I've convinced myself that even though Blue > Corpse (1987) is > solo-acoustic-guitar-with-vocals, the guitarist is > not the same > guitarist as on either the earlier or later records, > in other words, > is not Jandek. He's too proficient and he just > sounds different. He > *strums*. Jandek does not (on the other records) > strum. My tentative > theory is that maybe it's the same guy who plays > lead electric guitar > on the next LP, You Walk Alone (1988). Does anybody > who's heard > either or both albums, and maybe knows more about > guitar playing than > I do, have an opinion on this? > > Seth __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28268 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 01:13:21 -0000 Received: from imo-r13.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.67) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 01:13:21 -0000 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.17.1073e200 (4410) for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:12:47 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: <17.1073e200.2798ee8f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:12:47 EST Subject: Re: 746 & 748 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 113 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I think it's like,"Jandek looks outside, struts around on the walk, then says 'fuck it' and throws on some flip flops...Then he takes off his shirt and does stretching exercises in the garden to prepare himself for the walk along the outside of the brick building". That's my story and I'm sticking to it! > > Well maybe Nine Thirty, Foreign Keys and You Walk Alone were all in the > > same session. Blue Corpse and Modern Dances seem more in the same period. > > > Jandek "cutting it lose, taking off his shirt, and prancing in front of a > > brick wall". Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28740 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 01:17:24 -0000 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.6) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 01:17:24 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.a0.ee4c5ea (18404); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:16:46 -0500 (EST) From: BlackBook78@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:16:45 EST Subject: Re: 746 & 748 To: NCR13@aol.com, jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a0.ee4c5ea.2798ef7d_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_a0.ee4c5ea.2798ef7d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/18/2001 5:14:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, NCR13@aol.com writes: > I think it's like,"Jandek looks outside, struts around on the walk, then > says > 'fuck it' and throws on some flip flops...Then he takes off his shirt and > does stretching exercises in the garden to prepare himself for the walk > along > the outside of the brick building". That's my story and I'm sticking to it! > > > Also notice the clothes he's wearing in most of the covers..White dress shirt, black pants, very conservative, as Katy mentioned in her article (black pants, black tie, white shirt) I just can't picture Sterling wearing flip flops though. --part1_a0.ee4c5ea.2798ef7d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/18/2001 5:14:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, NCR13@aol.com
writes:


I think it's like,"Jandek looks outside, struts around on the walk, then
says
'fuck it' and throws on some flip flops...Then he takes off his shirt and
does stretching exercises in the garden to prepare himself for the walk
along
the outside of the brick  building". That's my story and I'm sticking to it!




Also notice the clothes he's wearing in most of the covers..White dress
shirt, black pants, very conservative, as Katy mentioned in her article
(black pants, black tie, white shirt)  I just can't picture Sterling wearing
flip flops though. --part1_a0.ee4c5ea.2798ef7d_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 29070 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 01:24:13 -0000 Received: from imo-r16.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.70) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 01:24:13 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.b4.10225927 (18404); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:23:55 -0500 (EST) From: BlackBook78@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:23:55 EST Subject: Re: Blue Corpse guitarist To: leerosevere@yahoo.com, seth@tisue.net, jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b4.10225927.2798f12b_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_b4.10225927.2798f12b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/18/2001 5:13:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, leerosevere@yahoo.com writes: > At one point during "Down at the Ball Park" (1:33 > exactly), Jandek says "Take it..take it Eddie", which > could either be a joke name, or the name of the real > person. Either way, Jandek is not playing guitar, > someone else is: someone who picks, strums actual real > chords. > > In Modern Dances and Foreign Keys, its quite apparent that there are several people in the room. In "Hand For Harry Idle" Nancy mentions "Tommy(?) doesnt want a hand!" And in "Number 512", before the song starts, Jandek tells Nancy "Just talk yourself into it it will be number 512 (which it really isnt), then she repeats the sentence, and someone in the backround asks "Anyone want a ___?? In Foreign Keys, a Fred Schneider-ish Jandek voice tells Nancy "Let them start for awhile and then we'll start" in Spanish In Me. Heh, Foreign Keys, Jandeks "comedic schizo" album... --part1_b4.10225927.2798f12b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/18/2001 5:13:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
leerosevere@yahoo.com writes:


At one point during "Down at the Ball Park" (1:33
exactly), Jandek says "Take it..take it Eddie", which
could either be a joke name, or the name of the real
person.  Either way, Jandek is not playing guitar,
someone else is: someone who picks, strums actual real
chords.  



In Modern Dances and Foreign Keys, its quite apparent that there are several
people in the room.  In "Hand For Harry Idle" Nancy mentions "Tommy(?) doesnt
want a hand!" And in "Number 512", before the song starts, Jandek tells Nancy
"Just talk yourself into it it will be number 512 (which it really isnt),
then she repeats the sentence, and someone in the backround asks "Anyone want
a ___?? In Foreign Keys, a Fred Schneider-ish Jandek voice tells Nancy "Let
them start for awhile and then we'll start" in Spanish In Me. Heh, Foreign
Keys, Jandeks "comedic schizo" album... --part1_b4.10225927.2798f12b_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010119013756.29900.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 29891 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 01:37:55 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 01:37:55 -0000 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: the Katy vine article From: Seth Tisue In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:28:55 EST." Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:37:55 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "BlackBook78" == BlackBook78 writes: BlackBook78> Personally, I feel that Sterling soundeds BlackBook78> lke the singer on I Woke Up. You mean the other "singer" ("speaker", more like it) on several tracks? (I think most of the list agreed there are two different vocalists on that CD, although there were a couple dissenters.) It sounds like you've spent a while on the phone with him so when you get to hear Put My Dream On This Planet I'll be curious what your verdict is. Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30662 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 01:50:54 -0000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.39) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 01:50:54 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id 5.c2.5ece928 (18404); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:50:27 -0500 (EST) From: BlackBook78@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:50:26 EST Subject: Re: the Katy vine article To: seth@tisue.net, jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c2.5ece928.2798f762_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_c2.5ece928.2798f762_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/18/2001 5:38:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, seth@tisue.net writes: > You mean the other "singer" ("speaker", more like it) on several > tracks? (I think most of the list agreed there are two different > vocalists on that CD, although there were a couple dissenters.) > > It sounds like you've spent a while on the phone with him so when you > get to hear Put My Dream On This Planet I'll be curious what your > verdict is. > > It was actually quite brief if you dont include the protracted silences, or the drawn out sentences that seemed like he was possibly making things up as he went along, or wondering if he really should answer the question. Example: "Does Jandek mean something?" "Yes................It...does...But I really don't want to go into that right....Now" I was going to mention that I remembered a few people had mentioned that there were maybe 2 singers on I Woke Up, but to be more accurate, Sterling sounds EXACTLY like the singer on First Awake Moment...I really got the impression that once the reissues are done, then that will be it. Jandek over, done...Thats the conclusion that he came to after everything. But remember I called only to validate that fake signature on Ready for the House that appeared on Ebay a few months back and sold for 400 (he laughed hard when I explained to him what Stellazine was), not to tape record him smoking a cigarette, or write a "Jandek exposed" article. I never intended to ask questions or chat, but I found him to be a pleasant person, and never intruded. Its nice to share your thoughts on the music of Jandek to someone who is/has/possibly involved. More than anything, Sterling wants to know what you think of the music, and how it has affected you, and I respect him completely........ Seth, have you observed the new album closely yet? Bleak/optimistic view? Depressing? Enlightened? I can't wait to hear it. --part1_c2.5ece928.2798f762_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/18/2001 5:38:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,
seth@tisue.net writes:


You mean the other "singer" ("speaker", more like it) on several
tracks?  (I think most of the list agreed there are two different
vocalists on that CD, although there were a couple dissenters.)

It sounds like you've spent a while on the phone with him so when you
get to hear Put My Dream On This Planet I'll be curious what your
verdict is.



It was actually quite brief if you dont include the protracted silences, or
the drawn out sentences that seemed like he was possibly making things up as
he went along, or wondering if he really should answer the question.  
Example:  "Does Jandek mean something?" "Yes................It...does...But I
really don't want to go into that right....Now"  I was going to mention that
I remembered a few people had mentioned that there were maybe 2 singers on I
Woke Up, but to be more accurate, Sterling sounds EXACTLY like the singer on
First Awake Moment...I really got the impression that once the reissues are
done, then that will be it.  Jandek over, done...Thats the conclusion that he
came to after everything.  But remember I called only to validate that fake
signature on Ready for the House that appeared on Ebay a few months back and
sold for 400 (he laughed hard when I explained to him what Stellazine was),
not to tape record him smoking a cigarette, or write a "Jandek exposed"
article.  I never intended to ask questions or chat, but I found him to be a
pleasant person, and never intruded.  Its nice to share your thoughts on the
music of Jandek to someone who is/has/possibly involved.  More than anything,
Sterling wants to know what you think of the music, and how it has affected
you, and I respect him completely........

Seth, have you observed the new album closely yet?  Bleak/optimistic view?
Depressing? Enlightened?  I can't wait to hear it. --part1_c2.5ece928.2798f762_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 1342 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 02:59:48 -0000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 02:59:48 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (pool0217.cvx12-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.226.217]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA15406 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:59:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <412001151925954480@earthlink.net> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Priority: Reply-To: murderedman@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.03.42 (Windows) From: "Gregg Lopez" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Jandek's guitar Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:59:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8" Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Overdubbing seems plausible when you consider the clarity of the vocals on the same track as two guitars and drums. His use of effects also point to something other than live 2-track. The blues strumming is actually very easy. Usually that's the first thing people pick up when learning guitar, but Jandek seems to have avoided that style for many years. The leads parts on you walk alone are a surprising relief from the minimalist picking of previous LPs but he could have learned those licks pretty fast too. Blows away Jerry Garcia any day if you ask me. His voice is his strongest instrument, though - a huge influence on me for years. The range of emotions and tonal flight are breathtaking. One spin of You Painted Your Teeth or Quinn Boys ("when I got out of there I said, 'aaaaah!'") and you know this isn't your average "I just want to tell you how I feel" troubadour. Elliot Smith stole Jandeks whole act and won an Academy Award. --- murderedman@earthlink.net www.mp3.com/murderedman ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII

Overdubbing seems plausible when you consider the clarity of the vocals on the same track as two guitars and drums. His use of effects also point to something other than live 2-track. The blues strumming is actually very easy. Usually that's the first thing people pick up when learning guitar, but Jandek seems to have avoided that style for many years. The leads parts on you walk alone are a surprising relief from the minimalist picking of previous LPs but he could have learned those licks pretty fast too. Blows away Jerry Garcia any day if you ask me. His voice is his strongest instrument, though - a huge influence on me for years. The range of emotions and tonal flight are breathtaking. One spin of You Painted Your Teeth or Quinn Boys ("when I got out of there I said, 'aaaaah!'") and you know this isn't your average "I just want to tell you how I feel" troubadour.
Elliot Smith stole Jandeks whole act and won an Academy Award. 
 
 
 
 

------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4707 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 04:09:36 -0000 Received: from rmx325-mta.mail.com (165.251.48.53) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 04:09:36 -0000 Received: from web394-mc (web394-mc.mail.com [165.251.48.135]) by rmx325-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA23838 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:09:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <383717841.979877370321.JavaMail.root@web394-mc> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:09:30 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Wolov To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Put My Dream On This Planet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 32.100.253.135 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Hi, I think that I received my copy of Put My Dream On This Planet the day after Seth got his. I've had the chance to listen to it a couple of times and am still taking it in - it is certainly like no other Jandek release before it, and not just because the entire album is solo voice. There are three songs: I Need Your Love (28:43) It's Your House (22:14) I Went Outside (1:17) Since I Went Outside is by far the shortest song on the album, I managed to write down the lyrics: Cold dark and lonely I look round for my shoes (4x) I put them on I went for a walk In the snow and ice So cold And the album cover is really cool - It's an extremely blurry photo of a person (probably Jandek) wearing what looks like a bowler hat! More later Mark ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19121 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 09:42:54 -0000 Received: from web117.mail.yahoo.com (HELO web117.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.91) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 09:42:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 14862 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jan 2001 09:42:53 -0000 Message-ID: <20010119094253.14861.qmail@web117.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.218.245.7] by web117.yahoomail.com; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:42:53 PST Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:42:53 -0800 (PST) From: Bradley Be Subject: Re: Blue Corpse guitarist To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Seth Tisue wrote: > > I think I've convinced myself that even though Blue Corpse (1987) is > solo-acoustic-guitar-with-vocals, the guitarist is not the same > guitarist as on either the earlier or later records, in other words, > is not Jandek. He's too proficient and he just sounds different. He > *strums*. Jandek does not (on the other records) strum. My tentative > theory is that maybe it's the same guy who plays lead electric guitar > on the next LP, You Walk Alone (1988). Does anybody who's heard > either or both albums, and maybe knows more about guitar playing than > I do, have an opinion on this? > > Seth > seth@tisue.net > http://tisue.net There is great acoustic guitar work on FOLLOW YOUR FOOTSTEPS 0751, particularly Preacher, Didn't Ask Why and I Know You Well. I think this is the guitarist who plays on Blue Corpse. There's also great guitar on side 2 of On The Way, in a style similar to Blue Corpse. This could be a guitar player Jandek used when he doesn't want to record with the full band, or he could have also played with the "Jandek Band" and just changed his style a lot for the electric songs. I am convinced that the music from You Walk Alone to SOMEBODY IN THE SNOW was all recorded live, no 4-trak dubbing, with a fluctuating 4-5 piece lineup: drums, 2 guitar players, Jandek on lead vocals & sometimes a female vocalist. I think Jandek might have played guitar on some of the songs but not all of them. There is evidence that Jandek was not the drummer (the instructions at the begining of One Minute,) and both the lead and rhythm guitar parts on You Walk Alone seem a little more nimble fingered than the songs that are clearly Jandek solos, so I always imagined Jandek as the lead singer....like Axl Rose, with his band behind him. :) ===== Nardwuar: Why does Led Zeppelin suck? Kim Gordon: Because there's so many bad bands that imitated them... http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9982 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 17:47:41 -0000 Received: from escape.com (root@198.6.71.10) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 17:47:41 -0000 Received: from localhost ([198.6.71.10]) by escape.com ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:42:38 -3736631 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:42:37 -0500 (EST) From: "R. Lim" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: 746 & 748 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 BlackBook78@aol.com wrote: > Also notice the clothes he's wearing in most of the covers..White dress > shirt, black pants, very conservative, as Katy mentioned in her article > (black pants, black tie, white shirt) I just can't picture Sterling wearing I would describe such a wardrobe as urban and definitely pretty hip (in an understated way). If you want to see various shades of conservative dress, turn on a presidential debate and marvel at the variations you can make with a blue suit, white shirt and red tie. In a sea of polo shirts and khakis, black trousers and black tie will definitely standout (unless you live in New York). And wearing french cuffs without looking like a pimp or wannabe is surely a sign of sartorial sophistication, is it not? -rob Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010119181829.11881.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 11872 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 18:18:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 18:18:28 -0000 Subject: Two more new album covers To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:18:28 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Interstellar Discussion (1984): http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~tisue/jandek/scans/covers/0747.jpg Closeup of The Drumkit. Probably from the same roll of film as the cover of New Town (1998). Somebody in the Snow (1990): http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~tisue/jandek/scans/covers/0757.jpg This is the infamous "fashion-plate" photo of Jandek. His hair is slicked back, he's wearing some pretty sharp clothes, and he's striking a fashion-model pose, too. This and the cover of The Living End (1989) are the two most adult Jandeks we have. I haven't sat down with the new CD yet, no. The right time to tilt my recliner back and have a private concert in my living room hasn't come yet. I was fast-forwarding through it to verify that it really is vocals-only, though, and I stopped at a random point in the middle and Jandek was saying "I'm ready for the house..." Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7445 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2001 18:28:28 -0000 Received: from imo-r18.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.72) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 20 Jan 2001 18:28:28 -0000 Received: from GJCLIMER@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.43.f8e98d8 (8417) for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:27:53 -0500 (EST) From: GJCLIMER@aol.com Message-ID: <43.f8e98d8.279b32a9@aol.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:27:53 EST Subject: ordering info To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 124 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk could someone post the corwood ordering info for the new CD? i want it as soon as i can and figured if i wrote corwood for the order info it would be a few weeks before i even got to send in my order! how much is it? corwoods address? name and number of CD? i know somewhere in my house this address is stored but i cant find it! Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12428 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2001 20:47:40 -0000 Received: from web116.mail.yahoo.com (HELO web116.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.89) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 20 Jan 2001 20:47:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 29068 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2001 20:47:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20010120204739.29067.qmail@web116.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.218.245.7] by web116.yahoomail.com; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:47:39 PST Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:47:39 -0800 (PST) From: Bradley Be Subject: Re: ordering info To: GJCLIMER@aol.com Cc: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- GJCLIMER@aol.com wrote: > could someone post the corwood ordering info for the new CD? corwood industries p.o. box 15375 houston texas 77220 The new one is # 0767. $8 each, 20 for $80, intern. add 10%. 0739-0744 and 0761-0767 are available, and 0746 is supposed to be available soon. ===== Nardwuar: Why does Led Zeppelin suck? Kim Gordon: Because there's so many bad bands that imitated them... http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010120215852.15115.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 15106 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2001 21:58:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jan 2001 21:58:51 -0000 Subject: 3 more new album covers To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:58:51 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Foreign Keys (1985): http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0749.jpg Young-ish Jandek. Looks like it might be the same age and the same house as You Walk Alone (1988). Modern Dances (1987): http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0752.jpg Blue Corpse (1987): http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0753.jpg Two shirtless Jandeks in front of a brick wall ("I passed by the building..."), taken apparently only seconds apart. The back yard visible at the edge of the former appears to be the same backyard as Jandek is crouching in on the cover of Telegraph Melts (1986). Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19550 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2001 23:46:34 -0000 Received: from f267.law7.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.236.145) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 20 Jan 2001 23:46:34 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:46:07 -0800 Received: from 209.91.128.105 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:46:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.91.128.105] From: "Darin Mitchell" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: ordering info Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:46:07 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2001 23:46:07.0563 (UTC) FILETIME=[28B4F1B0:01C0833B] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk For all you folks that have the new cd, how did y'all come about it so quickly? Did you put in orders beforehand? Did the folks at Corwood send anything to you indicating that a new album was ready? Anyone on the list receiving 'free' albums when they arrive on cd? Are most people ordering through mail or over the phone? Just wondering, M. >From: Bradley Be >To: GJCLIMER@aol.com >CC: jandek@cs.nwu.edu >Subject: Re: ordering info >Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:47:39 -0800 (PST) > >--- GJCLIMER@aol.com wrote: > > could someone post the corwood ordering info for the new CD? > >corwood industries >p.o. box 15375 >houston texas 77220 > >The new one is # 0767. > >$8 each, 20 for $80, intern. add 10%. 0739-0744 and 0761-0767 are >available, and 0746 is supposed to be available soon. > > >===== >Nardwuar: Why does Led Zeppelin suck? >Kim Gordon: Because there's so many bad bands that imitated them... > >http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25173 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2001 02:29:11 -0000 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.5) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jan 2001 02:29:11 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id i.39.f8e9321 (18410); Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:28:36 -0500 (EST) From: BlackBook78@aol.com Message-ID: <39.f8e9321.279ba353@aol.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:28:35 EST Subject: Re: ordering info To: susseddm@hotmail.com, jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_39.f8e9321.279ba353_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_39.f8e9321.279ba353_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I preordered mine, but I still had to call Corwood twice to remind him. I should be getting it in a couple of days. It always seems that Jandek is pretty generous to those who have benefited the music by exposure or admiration. I know a couple people who wrote to Corwood requesting an interview, or mentioning the prospect of writing an article, and all they'll get in return is a CD. Back in the 80s, Sterling said they mostly just gave everything away, mentioned by our dear Irwin Chusid, whose associates enjoyed the music mostly while the albums provided added comfort as seat props. There are no release dates, or notifications, only speculated dates. How many other people received on the letter a message that said the new album would be out before January? --part1_39.f8e9321.279ba353_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I preordered mine, but I still had to call Corwood twice to remind him.  I
should be getting it in a couple of days.  It always seems that Jandek is
pretty generous to those who have benefited the music by exposure or
admiration.  I know a couple people who wrote to Corwood requesting an
interview, or mentioning the prospect of writing an article, and all they'll
get in return is a CD.  Back in the 80s, Sterling said they mostly just gave
everything away, mentioned by our dear Irwin Chusid, whose associates enjoyed
the music mostly while the albums provided added comfort as seat props.  
There are no release dates, or notifications, only speculated dates.  How
many other people received on the letter a message that said the new album
would be out before January? --part1_39.f8e9321.279ba353_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010121223527.7213.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 7202 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2001 22:35:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jan 2001 22:35:26 -0000 Subject: Lots of new album covers To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:35:26 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk All new: Chair Beside a Window (1982) http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0742.jpg Very young, very grainy, B&W Jandek in profile. Staring at the Cellophane (1982) http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0744.jpg Acoustic guitar leaning against wall; closet with hangers and clothes. On the Way (1988) http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0755.jpg Very dark and instinct photo of a chair and drumkit -- the cover of The Beginning (1999) is a near-replica of this one. Twelfth Apostle (1993) http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0760.jpg Rear of a house, probably the same house as Graven Image (1994) and Glad to Get Away (1993). The curtains are all drawn. And here's some that I already had scans of, but they were small and lo-resolution... here's new, high-resolution scans: Telegraph Melts (1986) http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0750.jpg Shirtless Jandek crouches in his garden and ponders its growth (having just passed by brick wall). Follow Your Footsteps (1986) http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0751.jpg Teenage Jandek plays electric guitar in his parents' basement. The Living End (1989) http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0756.jpg Nice clear B&W head shot of adult Jandek. Lost Cause (1992) http://tisue.net/jandek/scans/covers/0759.jpg High school age (?) Jandek w/ short hair in front of curtain, in color. Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14670 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2001 00:54:08 -0000 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.35) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2001 00:54:08 -0000 Received: from Cassierosek@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id l.61.ab585ab (4562) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:52:20 -0500 (EST) From: Cassierosek@aol.com Message-ID: <61.ab585ab.279e2fc4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:52:20 EST Subject: Put My Dream.... To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_61.ab585ab.279e2fc4_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 172 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_61.ab585ab.279e2fc4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I received Put My Dream On This Planet today. After one listen, I feel it to be evolutionary in terms of Jandek. It seems quite sequential. I believe someone mentioned it in comparison to Captain Beefheart's pearls before swine ice cream for crow. Perhaps in terms of recording and format, they can be linked. Yet, Don's approach and delivery is very deliberate and assured in contrast with his scatological subject matter. While Jandek begins and ends this way, he seems to be searching and pleading in articulation and phrasing and in terms of himself. Jandek uses exaggerated repetition to really bring home his ideas. Time differences definitely play a role as well as some sort of an awareness for the intended audience and intention. His admired references to the Chinese and Japanese and even an indirect Michael Jackson reference are wonderful. The cover is beautiful too. Cassie Rose --part1_61.ab585ab.279e2fc4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit      I received Put My Dream On This Planet today.  After one listen, I
feel it to be evolutionary in terms of Jandek.  It seems quite sequential.  I
believe someone mentioned it in comparison to Captain Beefheart's pearls
before swine ice cream for crow.   Perhaps in terms of recording and format,
they can be linked.  Yet, Don's approach and delivery is very deliberate and
assured in contrast with his scatological subject matter.  While Jandek
begins and ends this way, he seems to be searching and pleading in
articulation and phrasing and in terms of himself.  Jandek uses exaggerated
repetition to really bring home his ideas.  Time differences definitely play
a role as well as some sort of an awareness for the intended audience and
intention. His admired references to the Chinese and Japanese and even an
indirect Michael Jackson reference are wonderful.  The cover is beautiful
too.  

Cassie Rose --part1_61.ab585ab.279e2fc4_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19256 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2001 02:33:03 -0000 Received: from f202.law7.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.202) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 23 Jan 2001 02:33:03 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:32:36 -0800 Received: from 209.91.128.114 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 02:32:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.91.128.114] From: "Darin Mitchell" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: And Then Some Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 02:32:36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2001 02:32:36.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF26E0E0:01C084E4] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk
Weep - Daily Pellets of Desire
 

"I guess since there are no real comparisons the only response most people have is that Jandek music is all the "same"."

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INSIDE OUTSIDE by Jeff Grimshaw 

http://grimshaw.jeff.tripod.com/inside.htm

"Irwin offered the crowd a choice of two Key of Z chapters-- the one on Jandek, the Texas outsider who has released 28 albums of self penned quasi-atonal (but to my ears, often wonderful) songs, or the one on Tiny Tim. By show of hands the selection was overwhelmingly for Jandek."
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CRYSTAL DRUM by Jeff Grimshaw

http://grimshaw.jeff.tripod.com/reviews.htm#songs

"And one guy simply said, "I'm not into the blues." A reaction I occasionally get when playing Captain Beefheart records, which leads me to conclude that to folks who don't dig the blues, the blues sound like Jandek and Captain Beefheart. But if so, why don't they LOVE the blues??"

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Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010124013349.18892.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 18881 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2001 01:33:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jan 2001 01:33:48 -0000 Subject: New CD: album cover scan To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:33:48 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~tisue/jandek/scans/covers/0767.jpg I see a bent, sleeved arm. If you can make out anything else, post. Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19587 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2001 01:43:08 -0000 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.37) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2001 01:43:08 -0000 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.60.af68880 (3315) for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:42:27 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: <60.af68880.279f8d02@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:42:26 EST Subject: Re: New CD: album cover scan To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 113 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk The object in the background might be the Ark of the Covenant, but I'm not 100% on that... Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26847 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2001 02:59:58 -0000 Received: from oe5.law9.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.8.109) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2001 02:59:58 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:59:31 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [64.154.149.12] User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:58:53 -0800 Subject: New CD Front Cover Image From: h e a t h e r To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2001 02:59:31.0139 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC376130:01C085B1] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk there is a lamp in the back of the room on the right. the person appears to be wearing a hat. the person is in a white shirt, arms are crossed and he is leaning on something (perhaps another lamp)? heather Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22188 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2001 12:05:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO usiatl.com) (63.79.204.2) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2001 12:05:29 -0000 Received: from [10.80.1.19] (HELO spiderman.usiatl.com) by usiatl.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 565659 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:05:18 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010124065345.02ac3760@mail.usiatl.com> X-Sender: ghp@mail.usiatl.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:03:54 -0500 To: From: Greg Parker Subject: Re: New CD Front Cover Image In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_1255915==_" Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --=====================_1255915==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Here's a "better" look. 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imo-r11.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.65) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2001 12:56:07 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.56.650cf91 (15702) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from web44.aolmail.aol.com (web44.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.5]) by air-id05.mx.aol.com (v77.35) with ESMTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:55:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:55:32 EST From: BlackBook78@aol.com Subject: Put My Dream: Cover To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <56.650cf91.27a02ac4@aol.com> Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Well upon first looking at it, I thought it to be a person crouched over holding a baby, but when I zoomed in, I felt a strong possibility that it could be Jandek crouched over the back of a couch because you can see a hand resting on the side, with the face looking forward possibly watching TV or something. And Cassie was correct, it is a very beautiful cover indeed. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26699 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2001 14:04:37 -0000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.39) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2001 14:04:37 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.b7.ad19231 (5714) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:03:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from web32.aolmail.aol.com (web32.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.8]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v77.35) with ESMTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:03:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:03:38 EST From: BlackBook78@aol.com Subject: Re: Put My Dream: Cover To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Heh, nevermind my last post. It looks clearly to be Jandek with his arms crossed, simliar to the cover of Foreign Keys. On the left side of the picture you can see the elbow protruding, but the face is completely blurred in the dark. Does anyone think that the pictures of the covers could be arriving in some sort of cycle or arrangement that continues itself within different themes? Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 29249 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2001 14:46:02 -0000 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.10) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2001 14:46:02 -0000 Received: from Cassierosek@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id l.f7.6d92153 (4219) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:45:25 -0500 (EST) From: Cassierosek@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:45:24 EST Subject: Cover To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f7.6d92153.27a04484_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 172 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_f7.6d92153.27a04484_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the man definitely appears to be the man from the other covers. I believe he is leaning forward onto a desk or table. His elbow is angled towards a letter of sorts. In bright sunlight, the wall in the background appears to the same mint green paint job as Ready for the House, which would make perfect sense because in "It's your house" he demands that he is ready for the house. I think this is the most clever Jandek cover yet. After each viewing, one can see something new just like the music. As well as one's listening perspective may change because of mood or circumstance and visually the light source that the cover is viewed in shows many different perspectives. It has a wonderful indefinite quality that makes Jandek so intriguing. Cassie --part1_f7.6d92153.27a04484_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit      I think the man definitely appears to be the man from the other
covers.  I believe he is leaning forward onto a desk or table.  His elbow is
angled towards a letter of sorts.  In bright sunlight, the wall in the
background appears to the same mint green paint job as Ready for the House,
which would make perfect sense because in "It's your house" he demands that
he is ready for the house.  I think this is the most clever Jandek cover yet.
 After each viewing, one can see something new just like the music.  As well
as one's listening perspective may change because of mood or circumstance and
visually the light source that the cover is viewed in shows many different
perspectives.  It has a wonderful indefinite quality that makes Jandek so
intriguing.
      Cassie --part1_f7.6d92153.27a04484_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12183 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2001 19:58:08 -0000 Received: from ewey-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO ewey.excite.com) (198.3.99.191) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Jan 2001 19:58:08 -0000 Received: from digger.excite.com ([199.172.152.82]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20010124195755.QFMA11406.ewey.excite.com@digger.excite.com> for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:57:55 -0800 Message-ID: <8255466.980366275242.JavaMail.imail@digger.excite.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:57:55 -0800 (PST) From: Ronald Karlin To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: cover Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 207.233.56.250 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is kind of like of Rorschach test isn't it? This is what I see: a man in a long-sleeve shirt sitting down in a semi-fetal position. He has his arms crossed and is wearing a black has that has a prominent brim, almost like a bowler. His head looks partially bent down. I sent away for the CD and I can't wait to hear it. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5837 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2001 16:39:40 -0000 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (HELO mailbox.mcs.net) (@192.160.127.87) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2001 16:39:40 -0000 Received: from Mars.mcs.net (bassler@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by mailbox.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA46745 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:39:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bassler@Mcs.Net) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:38:59 -0600 (CST) From: R P B X-Sender: bassler@localhost To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: suck.com mention Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Dialed up suck.com today, only to discover Jandek being the top story ... ah, yes, was only a matter of time. 6 months, and a Time magazine mention is inevitable ... a year from now, and cut to an "nice & homey" article in People, complete with 1978 grainy photo of Jandek frying up eggs in the kitchen. Ryan _____________.sig______________ LMP's A Century of Song project 101 years, 101 songs, 101 mp3's http://polyholiday.com/century Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010126043819.11314.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 11305 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 04:38:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 04:38:17 -0000 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Blue Corpse guitarist From: Seth Tisue In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:03:46 GMT." Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:38:17 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "aerick" == aerick duckhugger writes: aerick> but then again Seth... i do comics and art and i've been aerick> doing it for a long time... and i can draw in one style that aerick> looks totally crazy and sloppy lined and then turn around and aerick> play in an entirely different style that looks cleaner and aerick> more proficient.... it's just what happens when you get good aerick> enough at something and do it for a long time... you can play aerick> around with it more and switch around from one style to aerick> another if it suits you... i'm pretty sure myself that aerick> Jandek is a very "proficient" guitarist that just usually aerick> plays in a stylized way that sounds kinda' crazy and sloppy aerick> and, ahem, strumless. -aerick duckhugger "Proficient" was the wrong word -- "conventional" would have been better. I have the opposite feeling -- that Jandek's plays the only way he knows how -- but of course I can't prove it. I think what gives me that feeling the strongest is these things: - the long, slow development of his style over the years -- it's become more proficient, varied, capable, elaborated -- without becoming a whit more conventional - the fact that the more conventional playing on "Blue Corpse" and "You Walk Alone" is so isolated in his discography -- it is neither hinted at in previous records nor are traces of it left on his recent records -- this strongly suggests an outside guitarist to me - "Blue Corpse" comes right in the middle of a period that was the height of Jandek collaborating with a pool of other people But it's a judgment call. It probably depends partly on what you want to believe about Jandek, the idea of Jandek that pleases you. P.S. 4000 hits on the website today due to the suck.com mention. Usually only 250/day. (Hits, not people -- I'd to do log analysis to count people.) I've got about 25 people all seeing totally different things in the cover of the new CD -- I'll have to sort through that at some point. Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010126044109.11549.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 11540 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 04:41:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 04:41:08 -0000 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Blue Corpse guitarist From: Seth Tisue In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:42:53 PST." <20010119094253.14861.qmail@web117.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:41:08 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Bradley" == Bradley Be writes: Bradley> There is great acoustic guitar work on FOLLOW YOUR FOOTSTEPS Bradley> 0751, particularly Preacher, Didn't Ask Why and I Know You Bradley> Well. I think this is the guitarist who plays on Blue Bradley> Corpse. There's also great guitar on side 2 of On The Way, Bradley> in a style similar to Blue Corpse. This could be a guitar Bradley> player Jandek used when he doesn't want to record with the Bradley> full band, or he could have also played with the "Jandek Bradley> Band" and just changed his style a lot for the electric Bradley> songs. I am convinced that the music from You Walk Alone to Bradley> SOMEBODY IN THE SNOW was all recorded live, no 4-trak Bradley> dubbing, with a fluctuating 4-5 piece lineup: drums, 2 Bradley> guitar players, Jandek on lead vocals & sometimes a female Bradley> vocalist. I think Jandek might have played guitar on some Bradley> of the songs but not all of them. There is evidence that Bradley> Jandek was not the drummer (the instructions at the begining Bradley> of One Minute,) and both the lead and rhythm guitar parts on Bradley> You Walk Alone seem a little more nimble fingered than the Bradley> songs that are clearly Jandek solos, so I always imagined Bradley> Jandek as the lead singer....like Axl Rose, with his band Bradley> behind him. Thanks for posting this... I take back what I said in that messag about "Blue Corpse" being so isolated. Really appreciate this kind of close listening. I'll take a listen to those LP's. I am absorbing all these mailing list discussions for eventual updates to the website, by the way... it's all in my head and (on my computer)... Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010126044808.12045.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 12036 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 04:48:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 04:48:07 -0000 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Blue Corpse guitarist From: Seth Tisue In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:48:03 PST." <20010119034803.2734.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:48:07 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "PID" == PID writes: PID> Just cause a guy CAN play good, doesn't mean he WANTS to, and PID> definitely doesn't mean he wants to every time out. Jandek could PID> have learned trad guitar, tried it, and abandoned And then pulled it out for one album, and then put it away again? It just seems weird to me. I can't accept that degree of compartmentalization in his head -- it's like "ha ha, fooled you, I can play!". I don't see him operating with that kind of irony/detachment. It's so much simpler to assume that the guitarist is one of this pool of people we know he was working with at the time. PID> it...isn't it PID> weird though that if he puts his face on the covers of his PID> records that some friend/relative wouldn't have at some point PID> made the obvious connection...? and why wouldn't one of his PID> former colleagues write the expose that must eventually come? I wonder this especially about the Spin article, which showed the face shot from "The Living End" really clearly. Maybe Jandek's friends and coworkers just have absolutely no contact with music circles, certainly "underground" music circles. The Katy Vine article makes it sound that way. In that case, the Texas Monthly article would actually be likelier to cause an acquaintance of his to recognize him -- except Texas Monthly didn't run a photo, did they? I don't think they did. Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24080 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 08:47:21 -0000 Received: from adsl-63-194-217-205.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO kasley.com) (admin@63.194.217.205) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 08:47:21 -0000 Received: from [10.10.100.3] by kasley.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:47:24 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:47:17 -0800 Subject: Re: Blue Corpse guitarist From: Ian Kasley To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010126044808.12045.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk on 1/25/01 8:48 PM, Seth Tisue at seth@tisue.net wrote: > PID> it...isn't it > PID> weird though that if he puts his face on the covers of his > PID> records that some friend/relative wouldn't have at some point > PID> made the obvious connection...? and why wouldn't one of his > PID> former colleagues write the expose that must eventually come? > > I wonder this especially about the Spin article, which showed the face > shot from "The Living End" really clearly. Maybe Jandek's friends and > coworkers just have absolutely no contact with music circles, > certainly "underground" music circles. The Katy Vine article makes it > sound that way. In that case, the Texas Monthly article would > actually be likelier to cause an acquaintance of his to recognize him > -- except Texas Monthly didn't run a photo, did they? I don't think > they did. Yes, actually I believe they did. I can't seem to find my copy of the magazine at the moment, but if I'm not mistaken, they used the cover image from "Lost Cause". -ian Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010127160942.14972.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 14961 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2001 16:09:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Jan 2001 16:09:41 -0000 Subject: Drops To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:09:41 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Just noticed that this song from The Beginning (1999): A DOZEN DROPS A dozen drops fall from your face She came in rain and my fireplace I tried to reach you But ??? an elm tree God came between us And he lit our hearts on fire Quotes this song from Chair Beside a Window (1982): NANCY SINGS A dozen drops fall from your face Shaking the rain in a quiet place Shining clean a fresh new day Wakes up the world in a fragrant bouquet Listen to the sound of a constant fall Skies give water for life of all If you reach into the air Rain will come to kiss your hair Listen to the sound of a constant fall Skies give water for life of all If you reach into the air Rain will come to kiss your hair Actually, the second line of lyrics of one of these two must be incorrect -- I'll check on that. As well as this song from Lost Cause (1992): GOD CAME BETWEEN US God came between us He brought a huge sun He brought the black night We know no other way God came between us The line made us all blind, made us blind Who do you think that we could see Earth Mars Venus or Mercury God came between us, God came between us And he lit our hearts on fire and put it out with oceans Nobody'd ever see us, nobody'd ever know But God came between us, God came between us Doing the reissues seems to have Jandek's mind casting back to his early records... cf. the "ready for the house" reference on the new one... Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19821 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2001 18:10:49 -0000 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.2) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2001 18:10:49 -0000 Received: from GJCLIMER@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.d7.195c409 (15814) for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from web46.aolmail.aol.com (web46.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.7]) by air-id05.mx.aol.com (v77.35) with ESMTP; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:11:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:11:23 EST From: GJCLIMER@aol.com Subject: lryics please? To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Could someone send the lyrics from the third track on the new album to me? i know they were posted a little while ago and i lost them! ive got a concert tonight and thought it would be fun to cover his newest number! (occasionally jandek's music makes an appearance at my concerts.....) thanks friends greg (i know im lazy and could just copy them down myself, but im crazy busy today) Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30098 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2001 22:17:35 -0000 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.5) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Jan 2001 22:17:35 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.7d.1027144f (4266); Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:18:11 -0500 (EST) From: BlackBook78@aol.com Message-ID: <7d.1027144f.27a49513@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:18:11 EST Subject: Put My Dream........ To: GJCLIMER@aol.com, jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7d.1027144f.27a49513_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_7d.1027144f.27a49513_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FINALLY received my copy today....Listened to the 1st track and love it already....When I wrote to Corwood requesting it, I informed him that people were wondering what was on the cover. The only thing he wrote on the catalog was "Is the cover image that unclear?". After listening to the 1st track, I never realized he had such an apparent accent, and yes, Sterlings voice is a complete match on the songs, which is more distinct without instruments. Can anyone explain why the recording drops out and becomes silent after he finishes speaking? Maybe he stops the tape recorder and rests for awhile, who knows...... Your Turn to Fall is slated for arrival 3 weeks...... --part1_7d.1027144f.27a49513_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FINALLY received my copy today....Listened to the 1st track and love it
already....When I wrote to Corwood requesting it, I informed him that people
were wondering what was on the cover.  The only thing he wrote on the catalog
was "Is the cover image that unclear?".

After listening to the 1st track, I never realized he had such an apparent
accent, and yes, Sterlings voice is a complete match on the songs, which is
more distinct without instruments.

Can anyone explain why the recording drops out and becomes silent after he
finishes speaking?  Maybe he stops the tape recorder and rests for awhile,
who knows......

Your Turn to Fall is slated for arrival 3 weeks...... --part1_7d.1027144f.27a49513_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010128021228.7104.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 7095 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2001 02:12:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2001 02:12:27 -0000 Subject: Review of new CD To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:12:27 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is from the last update from Forced Exposure (www.forcedexposure.com): JANDEK: Put My Dream On This Planet CD (COR 0767). "Record number twenty-nine in the ever growing oeuvre of Jandek, and it's certainly a head-scratcher. No guitar, no drums, no piano, just him rambling on for a small eternity in a sort of song/speech mode on two lengthy and one very short tracks; all of it sounding kind of like it was recorded though a 15 watt Peavey Bandit amp with a broken reverb spring and a noise-gate pedal. Eerie (some might say annoying or god awful), almost bluesy hiss bathed vocals are separated by some rather lengthy periods of complete silence, covering some of the places and 'feelings' that populate his other records so vividly. Reading into it a bit (for in this place everything means something), we see that his last record ended with 'The Beginning' (!) -- a 15+ vocal-less (!) piano 'meditation' which certainly clouded the waters when it dropped -- which can now be viewed as an intro to this new acapella recording...you get the idea. So then, as concrete poetry it's not so hot, and as some kind of Out Blues piece, it's actually rather dire, but viewed in the microscope of the Jandekian Canon, it's pretty massive, and that's saying something too." -- Billy Kiely $7.00 Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12958 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2001 03:45:11 -0000 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.8) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Jan 2001 03:45:11 -0000 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.13.10ae3721 (3891) for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 22:44:40 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: <13.10ae3721.27a4efa7@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 22:44:39 EST Subject: Has anyone tried... To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 113 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Playing "The Beginning" title track with any of the new LP at the same time? Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 17044 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2001 05:56:29 -0000 Received: from imo-r18.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.72) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Jan 2001 05:56:29 -0000 Received: from BlackBook78@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id f.4e.10b5c129 (18406) for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:55:59 -0500 (EST) From: BlackBook78@aol.com Message-ID: <4e.10b5c129.27a50e6e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:55:58 EST Subject: "I Need Your Life" Lyrics (Long) To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_4e.10b5c129.27a50e6e_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_4e.10b5c129.27a50e6e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_4e.10b5c129.27a50e6e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: From: BlackBook78@aol.com Full-name: BlackBook78 Message-ID: <8f.6226faa.27a50e20@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:54:40 EST Subject: "I Need Your Life" Lyrics (Long) To: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part2_4e.10b5c129.27a50e20_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 --part2_4e.10b5c129.27a50e20_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok folks, here are the lyrics to the 1st song on "Put My Dream...". Definitely an intimate experience, and I noticed that if you listen with headphones, you will detect that there are in fact no real dropouts in between Jandeks singing. Actually, it sounds like there is a window in the backround pounding against the wall because of heavy winds that are gently hissing. I don't know, just my thought. I Need Your Life I been through your nursery rhyme I been through your nursery rhyme I took all your nickels and dimes But you left me cold You wouldn't let me home (?) Or longer than it took to go I dont care if I die I dont even care if I'm in a wheelchair Or in a bed Unable to move For all I know It's better than what I did today You heed me on You bring me up And then you take away my lord I'm standing I'm trying to stand Somehow you push me down You let me up and have me on a shoulder Tell me go on go ahead on And then you push me down Down But I know, I know you want to let me up Another time And I don't know why Sometimes I think maybe You let me up just to push me down You let me feel good Just let to let me feel bad And it was ok It's all ok But now I'm slippin You gave me one thing You took away two I dont know Oh, but you're trying to do Am I going down the wrong road Am I doin the wrong thing Please let me know Please tell me loud I want to know I'm asking please Let me know Let me know the right way Oh, is there a right way and I know Yes I know That there's a wrong way I saw today But you showed me before That I can lose All the faith I had That I can be So small That I can lose All I got All my faith All my hope Where does it go And you can't tell me any little thing Because I feel I feel So bad You can be happy You can laugh laugh laugh But I take a look I see the Chinese I see the Japanese They're laughing and joking Having a good time I see people in the paper I see the models I see walking down the street They look so good But I can't have it I'm all locked up I'm inside this thing And I can't oh no I cant I can't get out I can't take what I want I can see it Oh I can see it But it's not mine You build me up You show me these things You push me down You say forget it You can't have anything you just stay down I say belly up Let me up You gotta let me up You pushed me down Down on the ground I can't feel I can't be here Please make a change Help me live I want to give I wanna do I wanna have your life I wanna have your life Give me your life Let me up I know you can let me up You dont have to keep me down You dont have to keep me down Keep these things Away from me These bad things Away from me I wanna be right I'm willing to live a routine I'm willing to exercise my day I'm willing to give up Heh I'm willing Oh I'm willing You've got to let me up You know I'll do anything But don't push me down Don't push me down You make me wonder What should I do Should I come out Yeah, should I leave this thing I can do it I can do it Is that what you want I don't think so But you can change my mind You can change my mind You can have me All of me All but, let me up Let me up Give me a chance Don't push me down Don't push me down And you know I I know, I cant ever Push you down I can't ever Let you up You got it all You got it all Give me some Give me some of your life I want your life I want your life I'm willing to pay Pay the price Out of my life Take what it costs You got it all You always had it all So take it all You know you got it Yeah I'll live on I'll live on And I see the chinese I see the beautiful people I want them But I don't need them I don't need them You know what I need I need you Give me your life Give me your life Take mine Take my life You got it It's always been yours Always been yours You got my life You got it Give me yours Give me your life Give me your life Give me your life I need your life I need your life I need your life So what do I do Just what do I do You'd better show me Show me Don't push me down Don't push me down Yeah, yeah I know You can push me down You can push me down You can crush me You can snuff me out I don't care I don't care if I die I dont care if I'm in a wheelchair I don't care if I'm in a bed And I can't even move Hey, would it be worse than today You can pick me up Please pick me up Oh please Pick me up Please Oh please Pick me up You can pick me up Don't push me down Don't push me down I feel bad I feel bad I been here before I've had your nursery rhymes I've had your nickles and dimes I had your good times I had your lovely people All over me I liked it Now they're all gone Now I'm alone But you got me still Yeah you got me still You let me move around But you got me still And you know it And you let me up But then you go and push me down And you hurt me And times you hurt me bad And I've got one fear In my life And that fear is that I'm slippin I'm slipping And I see it And I feel it And I know it And I know, it doesn't have to be this way Tell me what I'm doin wrong Tell me Tell me what I'm doin wrong Because I want to be right I want to be good I don't want to be bad I know some people like to be bad, and they sing about being bad, and they say "Im bad". You know, I want to be good I want to be right I wanna be good And right I dont wanna have to fight and lose Please let me win Let me win this war I'm on your side I'm on your side What else I gonna do You push me down You let me up I dont wanna be down I dont wanna be down Please Please Let me up Let me win Let me get this war taken care of I be on your side Where else am I gonna be Ugh, I love you I surely do If you want me down I'll be on the ground But let me feel Like I'm not losing ground Let me win Let me be on top somehow someway I don't need to be conventional Let me up Let me up Oh please let me up You know it's been so long It's been so long I'm trying to remember It's not easy I see myself slipping I don't want to slip Let me up Let me up I need to be up I need to be right I'm willing to work Work, I'm willing to work I love you I love you Uh, I love you I love you Please let me win Let me win Somehow let me win I need to win Lets not have any misunderstanding I need to win I'm asking, please don't push me down I need to win your love And I'll do anything I don't know if I'm hurting myself I surely hope not But I feel like I'm maybe slipping I want some help So I don't have to go down Cause I see the Chinese and the Japanese laughing, talking, acting just like animals Why can't I act like an animal, take care of myself the right way. Sure would be good nice Sure Let me ask you Another time Treating me right Treating me right I got some kind of feeling I'm not being treated right, I don't know if I'm not being myself right, you're not treating me right but I'm slipping, and I don't want to be slipping I want to move on I want to create I want to be ahead I want to win I want to love I want to feel like I'm moving and doing things right but oh I don't feel too good about it. Why not Why don't I feel good Hey I don't know about other people I don't know what they do I don't know if they feel right sometimes they look like they feel just fine and I don't know. --part2_4e.10b5c129.27a50e20_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok folks, here are the lyrics to the 1st song on "Put My Dream...".  
Definitely an intimate experience, and I noticed that if you listen with
headphones, you will detect that there are in fact no real dropouts in
between Jandeks singing.  Actually, it sounds like there is a window in the
backround pounding against the wall because of heavy winds that are gently
hissing.  I don't know, just my thought.


I Need Your Life

I been through your nursery rhyme
I been through your nursery rhyme
I took all your nickels and dimes
But you left me cold
You wouldn't let me home (?)
Or longer than it took to go
I dont care if I die
I dont even care if I'm in a wheelchair
Or in a bed
Unable to move
For all I know
It's better than what I did today
You heed me on
You bring me up
And then you take away my lord
I'm standing
I'm trying to stand
Somehow you push me down
You let me up and have me on a shoulder
Tell me go on go ahead on
And then you push me down
Down
But I know, I know you want to let me up
Another time
And I don't know why
Sometimes I think maybe
You let me up just to push me down
You let me feel good
Just let to let me feel bad
And it was ok
It's all ok
But now I'm slippin
You gave me one thing
You took away two
I dont know
Oh, but you're trying to do
Am I going down the wrong road
Am I doin the wrong thing
Please let me know
Please tell me loud
I want to know
I'm asking please
Let me know
Let me know the right way
Oh, is there a right way
and I know
Yes I know
That there's a wrong way
I saw today
But you showed me before
That I can lose
All the faith I had
That I can be
So small
That I can lose
All I got
All my faith
All my hope
Where does it go
And you can't tell me any little thing
Because I feel
I feel
So bad
You can be happy
You can laugh laugh laugh
But I take a look
I see the Chinese
I see the Japanese
They're laughing and joking
Having a good time
I see people in the paper
I see the models
I see walking down the street
They look so good
But I can't have it
I'm all locked up
I'm inside this thing
And I can't oh no I cant
I can't get out
I can't take what I want
I can see it
Oh I can see it
But it's not mine
You build me up
You show me these things
You push me down
You say forget it
You can't have anything you just stay down
I say belly up
Let me up
You gotta let me up
You pushed me down
Down on the ground
I can't feel
I can't be here
Please make a change
Help me live
I want to give
I wanna do
I wanna have your life
I wanna have your life
Give me your life
Let me up
I know you can let me up
You dont have to keep me down
You dont have to keep me down
Keep these things
Away from me
These bad things
Away from me
I wanna be right
I'm willing to live a routine
I'm willing to exercise my day
I'm willing to give up
Heh I'm willing
Oh I'm willing
You've got to let me up
You know I'll do anything
But don't push me down
Don't push me down
You make me wonder
What should I do
Should I come out
Yeah, should I leave this thing
I can do it
I can do it
Is that what you want
I don't think so
But you can change my mind
You can change my mind
You can have me
All of me
All but, let me up
Let me up
Give me a chance
Don't push me down
Don't push me down
And you know I
I know, I cant ever
Push you down
I can't ever
Let you up
You got it all
You got it all
Give me some
Give me some of your life
I want your life
I want your life
I'm willing to pay
Pay the price
Out of my life
Take what it costs
You got it all
You always had it all
So take it all
You know you got it
Yeah I'll live on
I'll live on
And I see the chinese
I see the beautiful people
I want them
But I don't need them
I don't need them
You know what I need
I need you
Give me your life
Give me your life
Take mine
Take my life
You got it
It's always been yours
Always been yours
You got my life
You got it
Give me yours
Give me your life
Give me your life
Give me your life
I need your life
I need your life
I need your life
So what do I do
Just what do I do
You'd better show me
Show me
Don't push me down
Don't push me down
Yeah, yeah I know
You can push me down
You can push me down
You can crush me
You can snuff me out
I don't care
I don't care if I die
I dont care if I'm in a wheelchair
I don't care if I'm in a bed
And I can't even move
Hey, would it be worse than today
You can pick me up
Please pick me up
Oh please
Pick me up
Please
Oh please
Pick me up
You can pick me up
Don't push me down
Don't push me down
I feel bad
I feel bad
I been here before
I've had your nursery rhymes
I've had your nickles and dimes
I had your good times
I had your lovely people
All over me
I liked it
Now they're all gone
Now I'm alone
But you got me still
Yeah you got me still
You let me move around
But you got me still
And you know it
And you let me up
But then you go and push me down
And you hurt me
And times you hurt me bad
And I've got one fear
In my life
And that fear is that I'm slippin
I'm slipping
And I see it
And I feel it
And I know it
And I know, it doesn't have to be this way
Tell me what I'm doin wrong
Tell me
Tell me what I'm doin wrong
Because I want to be right
I want to be good
I don't want to be bad
I know some people like to be bad, and they sing about being bad, and they
say "Im bad".
You know, I want to be good
I want to be right
I wanna be good
And right
I dont wanna have to fight and lose
Please let me win
Let me win this war
I'm on your side
I'm on your side
What else I gonna do
You push me down
You let me up
I dont wanna be down
I dont wanna be down
Please
Please
Let me up
Let me win
Let me get this war taken care of
I be on your side
Where else am I gonna be
Ugh,  I love you
I surely do
If you want me down
I'll be on the ground
But let me feel
Like I'm not losing ground
Let me win
Let me be on top somehow someway
I don't need to be conventional
Let me up
Let me up
Oh please let me up
You know it's been so long
It's been so long
I'm trying to remember
It's not easy
I see myself slipping
I don't want to slip
Let me up
Let me up
I need to be up
I need to be right
I'm willing to work
Work, I'm willing to work
I love you
I love you
Uh, I love you
I love you
Please let me win
Let me win
Somehow let me win
I need to win
Lets not have any misunderstanding
I need to win
I'm asking, please don't push me down
I need to win your love
And I'll do anything
I don't know if I'm hurting myself
I surely hope not
But I feel like I'm maybe slipping
I want some help
So I don't have to go down
Cause I see the Chinese and the Japanese laughing, talking, acting just like
animals Why can't I act like an animal, take care of myself the right way.
Sure would be good nice
Sure
Let me ask you
Another time
Treating me right
Treating me right
I got some kind of feeling I'm not being treated right, I don't know if I'm
not being myself right, you're not treating me right but I'm slipping, and I
don't want to be slipping I want to move on I want to create I want to be
ahead I want to win I want to love I want to feel like I'm moving and doing
things right but oh I don't feel too good about it.
Why not
Why don't I feel good
Hey I don't know about other people
I don't know what they do
I don't know if they feel right sometimes they look like they feel just fine
and I don't know.
--part2_4e.10b5c129.27a50e20_boundary-- --part1_4e.10b5c129.27a50e6e_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-ID: <20010128224722.30676.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> Received: (qmail 30665 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2001 22:47:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2001 22:47:21 -0000 Subject: Album cover collection completed To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:47:21 -0600 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I've put up new high-resolution scans of these album covers, formerly up only in thumbnail versions: Your Turn To Fall (1983) http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~tisue/jandek-scans/covers/0745.jpg Jandek's desk, guitar case, and comfy chair. Objects on desk not readily identifiable. You Walk Alone (1988) http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~tisue/jandek-scans/covers/0754.jpg Young adult Jandek stands in front of a white house (!) and squints. He's looking tall and long-legged, and sharp in those pointy toed boots. One Foot in the North http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~tisue/jandek-scans/covers/0758.jpg Silhouette of Jandek in profile -- gray on gray, as if in fog. Apparently from the same roll of film as this very similar cover: http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~tisue/jandek-scans/covers/0741.jpg Plus here's the infamous "Chinese restaurant" back cover of Your Turn To Fall: http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~tisue/jandek-scans/covers/0758-back.jpg Chew on that, Jandek list! That does it for the cover-scanning project. Now you can go to http://tisue.net/jandek/discog.html and have an experience I used to only be able to get by spreading out all the albums out on my living room floor. Click to zoom in and search for telltale details. Coming soon: more lyrics! Seth seth@tisue.net http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7177 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2001 14:30:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO htcexch11286.htc.edu) (209.44.60.236) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 29 Jan 2001 14:30:39 -0000 Received: by htcexch11286.htc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:31:21 -0600 Message-ID: <45BB3D25CA31FC4F9FE376F6E0EAD34E07B81F@htcexch11286.htc.edu> From: "Ronsen, Josh P." To: "'jandek@cs.nwu.edu'" Subject: RE: Album cover collection completed Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:31:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Seth Tisue writes: > You Walk Alone (1988) > http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~tisue/jandek-scans/covers/0754.jpg > > Young adult Jandek stands in front of a white house (!) and > squints. He's looking tall and long-legged, and sharp in those > pointy toed boots. "You are a cowboy when you wear those boots." ? -Josh Ronsen http://www.nd.org/jronsen Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26914 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2001 20:56:31 -0000 Received: from f8.law7.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.8) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 29 Jan 2001 20:56:31 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:56:01 -0800 Received: from 208.194.202.254 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:56:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.194.202.254] From: "Christina Carter" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: I Need Your Life lyrics Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:56:01 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2001 20:56:01.0392 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3129700:01C08A35] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Seems this is what i hear... I Need Your Life I been through your nursery rhyme I been through your nursery rhyme I took all your nickels and dimes But you left me cold You wouldn't let me home (?) --[You wouldn't let me HOLD]-- Or longer than it took to go --[ON longer than it took to go]-- I dont care if I die I dont even care if I'm in a wheelchair Or in a bed Unable to move For all I know It's better than what I did today You heed me on --[You LEAD me on]-- also instead of: I say belly up --[I say LET ME up]-- Christina _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 6488 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2001 00:42:28 -0000 Received: from bucky-rwcmex.excite.com (HELO bucky.excite.com) (198.3.99.218) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Jan 2001 00:42:28 -0000 Received: from digger.excite.com ([199.172.152.82]) by bucky.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20010130004200.WMJ18109.bucky.excite.com@digger.excite.com> for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:42:00 -0800 Message-ID: <18704024.980815320307.JavaMail.imail@digger.excite.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:42:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ronald Karlin To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: I Need Your Life lyrics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 207.233.56.250 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:56:01 -0600, Christina Carter wrote: Christina- this may be off topic but I recently bought the new Charalambides CD "Houston" and I think it's brilliant. I think you're the only any band on earth that could fairly do a Jandek cover song. I know you already did "Variant" but I'd love to hear you guys cover "Nancy Sings" and "I Sit Alone and think about you a lot". That would be amazing. Just a thought... Ron _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4591 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 01:16:36 -0000 Received: from web110.mail.yahoo.com (HELO web110.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.80) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 01:16:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 8750 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Feb 2001 01:16:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20010201011630.8749.qmail@web110.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.27.3.52] by web110.yahoomail.com; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:16:30 PST Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:16:30 -0800 (PST) From: Bradley Be Subject: Show me the way, o lord To: jandek list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Just found another Jandek cover on the web: http://www.bluesanct.com/archive/sound.html Scroll down to the band "static films." This is a VERY STRANGE version. There is also a cool live Current 93 track at the bottom of the page. ===== "It's nobler to never get paid than to bank on shit and dismay." - A Silver Mount Zion http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/