Message-ID: From: "David Miller" To: Subject: maybe Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:47:37 -0600 Maybe this is nothing to this news group, but I just recently got interested in Jandek. Anyway, I called Corwood tonight and am expecting a call tomorrow morning. If I can record it in any way, I will. xoxoxo david Message-ID: <000801bf55fc$2185ce40$54aaa392@siue.edu> From: "David Miller" To: Subject: jandek... Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:06:35 -0600 i just got off the phone with sterling smith - from corwood. very business-like conversation with the man. i requested a catalog, = what are the chances he'll feel generous and send along a cd or something? we'll see. i asked if there was any reason as to why the corwood catalogue began with the number 0739 - he said "not to my knowledge". he also said that 0741 is at the cd pressing plant right now. anyway, that's my two cents. david Message-ID: <010901bf55fe$cc5c04e0$a769a8c0@multiplan.com> From: "David Willems" To: Subject: Re: jandek... Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:25:37 -0500 Is there an actual listing for Corwood Industries in Houston, Texas? Message-ID: <20000103.122518.-1624671.1.benthos@juno.com> From: Chris D Woodward To: damille@siue.edu Cc: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: jandek... Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 12:03:12 -0700 On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:06:35 -0600 "David Miller" writes: > he also said that 0741 is at the cd pressing plant right now. woo-hoo! would that be "later on"? can't remember.. cheers, chris Message-ID: <0.116fed8d.25a2f6c3@aol.com> From: Neonrace@aol.com To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: jandek... Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 02:09:55 EST Hey, this is my first posting to the Jandek mailing list. I'm listening to the man right now, "White House Requiem." "I did it now . . . I did it now . . . The box said 'do not open . . .'" I think that everyone who has been enlightened by the Jandek ignition ought to leave the brother alone. It's obvious that he just wants to jam his tunes and have people check them out. He doesn't want to reveal much, but he leaves us imagining a lot. Corwood Industries returned a message I had left requesting a catalog and then I received two free water damaged compact discs with a catalog. But I didn't want to hassle him, I just wanted the music and I wanted to be sure that he received the money. What else could anyone expect? Does anyone know a person who hunts down grocers for supplying fresh fruit? Jandek is a fresh grocer, we better leave him to his affairs. Sincerely, David Caddell Message-ID: <006701bf56bd$ce5a5f20$a769a8c0@multiplan.com> From: "David Willems" To: Subject: Re: jandek... Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:12:54 -0500 It's an interesting point, and I haven't made a clear decision, but you must have been curious enough to call at least. I mean it's human nature not to want to seperate the art from the artist so people want to know what's behind this music. I mean it doesn't sound like ANYTHING else. I really don't care about the history Limp Bizkit, although I'm sure it would be readily available to me if I so care to persue it. Part of the allure of Jandek is the mystery of Jandek. Part of what makes the music so curious (and good) is not knowing who or what or when is exactly creating it. The cover art, the similarity of style over 20 or so years etc.. all creates this mystery. And mystery creates curiosity. I certainly wouldn't want everything revealed (that's the point), but curiosity is justified I believe. Message-ID: <38720D56.70A5@earthlink.net> From: awa To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Jandek's power Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 07:10:14 -0800 That article by the Houston journalist who "met Jandek" is enough Jandek The Guy for me. I'm convinced she met him. He said to her, "You're a journalist but you also grow snap peas." He also said, "Do you drink beer?" He's seen "Matrix" and he liked it. I learned that he has allergies and dresses well. He has a comfy position in Corporate America which allows him the luxury of travel. That's something that I kind of expected for some reason. As for Jandek The Enigma, his power is the secrecy, the conspiracy of the whole thing. He's about disappearance rather than appearance and therein lies his "purity" for lack of a better word. No better concept into practice does there exist, aside from The Residents. His fragile buying base would probably toss him out like a tired, rusty old whore trying to look comely if it were to get the warm, fuzzy and chatty Jandek. Or at least I'm sure that's what he believes. Maybe all the answers are in the lyrics and photos and people should connect the dots and look for clues there. I'm actually surprised no-one has found that friggin' house and taken their own photographs. Certainly there are Houstonian 'dek fans who know that neighborhood! --Alec Message-Id: From: Maurice Rickard To: Subject: Re: jandek... Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:05:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <006701bf56bd$ce5a5f20$a769a8c0@multiplan.com> Well, there's that Texas Monthly article at http://www.texasmonthly.com/mag/1999/aug/jandek.html in which he makes it clear that he doesn't want to be contacted about Jandek ever again by anyone. While I'm happy to leave him alone, I'm also happy to retain my curious fascination. -Maurice Message-ID: <0.577f14b7.25a3db8d@aol.com> From: Masseymail@aol.com To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Jandek's power Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:26:05 EST In a message dated 1/4/2000 10:08:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, errora@earthlink.net writes: << He's about disappearance rather than appearance >> amen, and more of that for me, please. today i saw a sign on a coliseum which said "Got Milk? presents: Britney Spears." [as an aside: i bet not too many at the american dairy association see the irony in this...] 'nuff said. bob m Message-ID: From: "David Miller" To: Subject: mp3... Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 22:37:41 -0600 I am upping a jandek mp3 to some guy right now. Maybe we can spread the word. Down at the ballpark. Message-ID: <20000105183620.49928.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Jason Cooley" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: kim's underground Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 10:36:20 PST I just spent this past New Years running a small radio station for the big Phish (yeah, I know) show in FLA. The station was located backstage and I made sure to play plenty of Jandek. Imagine: thousands of retarded hippie Deadheads nodding their heads to Jandek. On the way back home I stopped in NYC and went to Kim's Underground on St. Marks. In the used vinyl section (upstairs) is (or was) a very nice copy of "One Foot In the North" for $9.99. So if you're in the area...go get it! Message-ID: <20000105210649.42393.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "chrislyn carter" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Jandek's power Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 15:06:49 CST -Hello- Do you mean the house on the covers? (Providing it is existant). The description in the Texas Monthly article of the neighborhood as "one of Houston's better..." is meaningless in such a sprawling city. Houston has many such neighborhoods from River Oaks to Tanglewood to The Heights to Bellaire etc. One would have to pursue records and such as K. Vine (who lives in Austin, not Houston) sopposedly did, and that would require effort, patience and perhaps a lack of a certain amount of scruples (at least enough disregard of the possible and potential infringement of privacy). >I'm actually surprised no-one has found that friggin' house and taken >their own photographs. Certainly there are Houstonian 'dek fans who >know that neighborhood! One of the most fascinating covers to me is the Ready For The House with the book placed in front of the window. What does that particular book indicate? >Maybe all the answers are in the lyrics and photos and people should >connect the dots and look for clues there. I'm not sure who I believe she met. She said that she met the man on the covers, but who is that? Christina Message-ID: <20000105211754.19873.qmail@web1004.mail.yahoo.com> From: Matthew Perpetua To: chrislyn carter Cc: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Jandek's power Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:17:54 -0800 (PST) > I'm not sure who I believe she met. She said that > she met the man on the > covers, but who is that? My feeling about that article is that she did not meet Jandek, but Sterling Smith. I'm of a mind to say that Sterling and Jandek are NOT the same guy. Maybe brothers or relatives of some kind, but not the same. Message-ID: <20000106162706.28579.qmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> From: rowan morrison To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: jandek fans Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:27:06 -0800 (PST) > Imagine: > thousands of retarded hippie > Deadheads nodding their heads to Jandek. what a snotty thing to say! no wonder kurt cobain has been quoted as saying only pretentious people listen to jandek. since i joined this list i've read very few posts that i would consider interesting. instead, my mailbox has been barraged with posts that lead me to believe that MOST of you only listen to jandek for his collectability. this list seems to have little to do with music and a lot to do with one-up-manship. if jandek had a number one single, i doubt that many of you would even continue to be jandek fans, in fact, i believe that there would be more jandek albums in the used racks of record stores than there are grunge albums today, and a good portion of them would be supplied by this list. there certainly seem to be a lot of you who identify yourselves by your "obscure" musical tastes, even to the point of being convinced that you're better than the average music fan. sure jandek's mystique is interesting, but what really matters at the heart of things is his music. a good album is a good album, whether there are ten copies or ten million copies in print. good day, bryan Message-ID: From: Sam Leimer To: rowan morrison cc: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: jandek fans Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:45:44 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <20000106162706.28579.qmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> whatever, anybody who spends their life following the Greatful Dead around is probably retarded and definitely a hippy. Jesus, you don't have to be a snob to recognize how bad the dead suck. yeah, some of these people are pretentious but hating the dead? come on, who doesn't? (wankers, retards and losers, oh yeah, and ed reno) Sam Message-ID: From: disco j0n To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: jandek fans Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:49:24 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20000106162706.28579.qmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> > jandek had a number one single, i doubt that many of > you would even continue to be jandek fans, in fact, i > believe that there would be more jandek albums in the > used racks of record stores than there are grunge > albums today, and a good portion of them would be > supplied by this list. if he had a number one single...would the mystique still be present..or would he go public and properly support said single with a tour and maybe some talk show appearences...i like the music..but i am further interested in the mystique and DIY qualities that go along with it...would these aspects be aided by or expanded upon..thus causing greater interest.. or would they be lost in the fanfare behind the single... the idea of jandek playing for large crowds of people is interesting to me also...would the people actively be listening to it..or would it play at a more subconcious level...how would they be affected by it..would it be a positive thing..would it stretch there interest in music to more abstract things..or would they drop their grilled cheese sandwiches and start getting freaked out by the ghostly vocals and chord progressions... while i've gathered up enough strength to post....do moments on white box requiem remind anyone else of moments on derek bailey's aida... jon Message-ID: <20000106165533.5499.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> From: Seth Tisue To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Jandek list Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 10:55:32 -0600 Please let's not have flamewars over: 1) whether Jandek fans are just trying to out-obscure everyone 2) the Grateful Dead Thank you, Seth Tisue s-tisue@nwu.edu http://www.cs.nwu.edu/~tisue/ Message-ID: <00e101bf5867$355e1fe0$a769a8c0@multiplan.com> From: "David Willems" To: Subject: Re: jandek fans Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:58:00 -0500 That's an interesting point. I don't think Jandek's music could work in a live setting. Part of the "sound" of it is a guy sitting alone in his room and making this extremely private music. Daniel Johnston's tapes remind me of the same thing. Although I must admit seeing him live is an extremely intense experience. Jandek in performance I would liken to more of a shoe-gazer type of setting or seeing Low or something where it works (at least for me) better on record when you can just sit and listen to it. Message-ID: From: disco j0n To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: jandek fans Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:13:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <00e101bf5867$355e1fe0$a769a8c0@multiplan.com> On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, David Willems wrote: > That's an interesting point. I don't think Jandek's music could work in a > live setting. Part of the "sound" of it is a guy sitting alone in his room > and making this extremely private music. Daniel Johnston's tapes remind me > of the same thing. Although I must admit seeing him live is an extremely > intense experience. Jandek in performance I would liken to more of a > shoe-gazer type of setting or seeing Low or something where it works (at > least for me) better on record when you can just sit and listen to it. > as far as large crowds..i was thinking more in the sense of having his music played over a PA..so the sound is still intact...it would loose part of the sound you refer to...but i am thinking what other aspects it may take on..when mixed with low crowd noise sort of like walking in a store or something...and suddenly becommming aware of music being played over head..not neccesarily whether you recognise it or not...but how you would interpret it... i would like to see jandek in a bar sometime after 1 am..when the bar is emptying out and its getting kinda mellow...that appeals to me in an aesthetic sense...but thats just me...my best jandek listens have been late at nite.. jon Message-ID: <20000106171905.14005.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> From: "O.K. Robot" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: not sterling Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:19:05 -0800 (PST) The Texas Monthly article says: "He wouldn't draw me a map to our destination, he wouldn't let me tape-record him, and at his request I cannot reveal his name, occupation, address, or phone number." Yet she freely discusses Sterling Smith earlier in the article. To me, that means that he isn't Jandek. Message-ID: <000801bf5873$5664e780$54aaa392@siue.edu> From: "David Miller" To: Subject: the units... Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:24:54 -0600 i found an interview with jello biafra (of the dead kennedys) who mentions The Units 'a great electronic band' - so it's not jandek - = but for=20 those interested in who the units were... here's a bit of info... david Message-Id: <200001062037.OAA07031@harper.uchicago.edu> From: Ben Evans To: Subject: Re: the units... Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 14:37:15 -0600 In-Reply-To: <000801bf5873$5664e780$54aaa392@siue.edu> At 12:24 PM 1/6/00 -0600, David Miller wrote: > i found an interview with jello biafra (of the dead kennedys) > who mentions The Units 'a great electronic band' - so it's not jandek - but > for > those interested in who the units were... > here's a bit of info... > david Yeah. There was another, unrelated band called The Units, or maybe just Units. More info is at: http://www.trouserpress.com/bandpages/UNITS.html Maybe that's why "The Units" who recorded "Ready for the House" changed his name to Jandek. At one point the other Units were signed to Epic, so maybe Epic's legal team had some words with Sterling Smith. Which leads me to speculate that if not for this other band, perhaps there would be no Jandek. -Ben Evans www.dragking.org Message-ID: <20000106210324.6883.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Jason Cooley" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: jandek fans Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 13:03:24 PST >this list seems to have little to >do with music and a lot to do with one-up-manship. who am I trying to "one-up"? The Grateful Dead? >what really >matters at the heart of things is his music. a good >album is a good album, whether there are ten copies or >ten million copies in print. You are just emphasizing the point of playing his music to a large audience, whether they be idiot hippies or teeny-bopping Britney fans. Obviously I believe his music is good and definitely playable alongside more recognizable stuff like Beck or Guided By Voices or even something by the Dead. I played it, identified the artist and recommended it to the listener, just like any normal DJ would. Jandek was played for the same reason Half Japanese, the Beatles and the Beta Band were played. It's good music. I'm sure that out of the thousands of people listening, somebody wrote his name down and is going to go looking him. And I think this is good. I hope somebody got that "One Foot" I saw in the village. Message-ID: <1264927923-327545045@ardentmicro.com> From: chris@bellwethermfg.com (Chris Swanson) To: Sam Leimer Cc: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: jandek fans Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:34:39 -0600 Hello, I am a huge Jandek fan. I also am a GRATEFUL DEAD fan. I also like Christopher Cross, John Cale and Judas Priest. I'd suppose almost half of the people on the jandek list like the Grateful Dead as well. I'm not saying you shouldn't say harsh things about them on the list, but just be advised that there may be fewer people who agree with you than you may assume. I don't know about you all, but I usually assume that most people who would be interested in Jandek would probably have rather open minds musically, and therefore I always find it very strange and rather unsettling when people post to this list flagrantly swinging their apparently closed minds around. I'd rather hear about what people find interesting about music than what they think "sucks" or is "retarded" which are very easy, reactionary statements to make. To make this worthwhile banter: One thing I was thinking the other day is how much Jandek's voice sometimes reminds me of the more melancholy side of EPIC SOUNDTRACKS. Certainly Epic's singing has more melody, but their voices share a similar timbre at times... Anyone else hear it? Chris Message-Id: From: Maurice Rickard To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Epic Soundtracks Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:53:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1264927923-327545045@ardentmicro.com> I'm going to confess my philistinism and ask where one should start with Epic Soundtracks. I'm semi-familiar with Crime and the City Solution, but what do you recommend for his singing/other instruments? FWIW, I am aware that he passed away a year or two ago. Sad story. -Maurice Maurice Rickard http://www.envirolink.org/maurice Message-Id: From: Michael Bruner To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: RE: jandek fans Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:52:31 -0500 Hi, I just subscribed to this list today. I just found out about Jandek last week at the new year's Phish concert where they played Jandek over the PA system between sets. Most of my retarded friends hated the stuff but I thought it was great. So far I only have two cds and some mp3s, so I guess I have a long road ahead of me. Does anyone else think Down at the Ballpark is eerily similar to Run Like An Antelope from phish's lawn boy album??? I'd also love to trade for live jandek tapes if any one is interested. I have every new year's Phish concert since 1987, and a couple hundred concerts since 1992. Most are high quality except for the usual hippie Deadhead banter from the crowd. Message-Id: From: Maurice Rickard To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: RE: jandek fans Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:58:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: Michael, Welcome to the wonderful world of Jandek! You'll probably get people pointing this out, but there aren't, to my knowledge, any live Jandek tapes, because there haven't been (AFAIK) any live performances. The records are it. Sorta adds to the mystique, IMO. -Maurice Message-ID: <387538C6.C27@earthlink.net> From: awa To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Cobain?! Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:52:22 -0800 Why do people always refer to the Cobain reference? Who cares if Cobain said only pretentious people listen to Jandek but Jandek isn't pretentious. That was a very disposable observation on his part and definitely not worth carving in stone. Why is he considered the Messiah for the unpretentious? He wrote OK pop songs and sang in a strangled voice. He married a very loud-mouthed grrrrrrrrrrrl, they reproduced and then he shot himself, which is always sad, and that is about it. I don't know why there was such hatred projected against the Dead. I've only heard them a couple of times. I've been recommended their first two records and maybe one day I'll actually get them. The Dead have nothing to do with Jandek anymore than Prince, My Bloody Valentine, Phish, Bill Nelson, Freddie Hubbard, Astrid Gilberto or Brian Eno do. And another thing: Jandek transcends the obscure thing because it just doesn't get more obscure than Jandek. Well, maybe The Residents get close but that's completely different. If there's some product out there that's as obscure as Jandek, I doubt it would be as complete a package as Jandek releases. It doesn't matter what other music you listen to. Jandek is NOT about your other musical tastes because he's not making music, whoever HE is. He is making atmospheres, moods, anti-atmospheres and anti-moods and the results are always a challenge to the ear. There would never be a number one single. The fact that he uses a tape machine, acoustic guitar, drums, electric guitar, piano, voice, recites lyrics, etc. doesn't mean that he's making music. It is sounds that sound very one-take and it is D.I.Y. all round. He transcends punk cred considerations as well because of what he does and who he isn't. People will try to out obscure each other because that's how things work here on planet earth and the known universe, right down to the microbes. Everything is trying to outdo everything else. Also, welcome to the internet. There are very few lists that I've EVER experienced, aside from the XTC list, that do anything more than provide a forum for people to ego clash and insult one other and one another's tastes in music, literature, politics, diet, film, bicycles, domestic animals, food, whatever. You have to expect the cooler-than-thou thing to be in full swing on a Jandek list and take it with a "grain of". Come ON, mon. --Alec Message-ID: <38753A76.7F3F@earthlink.net> From: awa To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Some more Units talk Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:59:34 -0800 The Units were a band that were big in the fired up San Francisco post-punk scene in the late '70s/early '80s era that included other bands with names like Our Daughters Wedding, Romeo Void, The Offs, Chrome Dinette (sp?), Monochrome Set. I remember hearing a lot about the Units from people who were friends with them. They would tell me stories of how they squandered money, friends, musical equipment, opportunity in general. I was also surprised to hear how Bill Nelson, their producer, had a lot of headache involved in the babysitting of the band. I was fired up when I read "The Units" on the back of the Jandek cover. I wish I knew what happened to them. I have 2 of their 45s and they're very interesting, very much of the time of their release. Electropop to be sure and not very Jandek at all. Very worth checking out if you like YMO, Devo, Bill Nelson, Gary Numan, early OMD, etc. Message-ID: <38753AA8.2B637FA4@libcom.com> From: langel@libcom.com To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: not sterling Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 20:00:25 -0500 "O.K. Robot" wrote: > The Texas Monthly article says: > "He wouldn't draw me a map to our destination, he > wouldn't let me tape-record him, and at his request I > cannot reveal his name, occupation, address, or phone > number." > > Yet she freely discusses Sterling Smith earlier in the > article. To me, that means that he isn't Jandek. It's pointless to argue this point because it's doubtful that anyone will be proven right or wrong anytime soon, but I feel compelled to reply to this message. I wonder about the logic at work in the conclusion reached above. Freely discussing Sterling Smith in one part of the article and stating that Jandek requested that she not reveal his (Jandek's) real name in another part of the article does not necessarily mean that the two have to be different people, does it? I didn't take it that way. The article doesn't come out and say "Sterling Smith is not Jandek". Doesn't matter, I guess... I honestly don't know what to think. And, yes, I have read the TX Monthly article - several times. I think it's great. Is anyone on the list a Houston resident? I'm curious to know. GL Message-ID: From: "David Miller" To: Subject: late at night, in a bar... Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:19:57 -0600 > i would like to see jandek in a bar sometime after 1 am..when the bar is > emptying out and its getting kinda mellow...that appeals to me in an > aesthetic sense...but thats just me...my best jandek listens have been > late at nite.. wouldn't it be wild if he actually did play late night bars somewhere -- just didn't tell anyone... david Message-ID: <20000107043408.90039.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Jason Cooley" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: RE: jandek fans Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 20:34:08 PST >Hi, I just subscribed to this list today. I just found out about Jandek >last >week at the new year's Phish concert where they played Jandek over the PA >system between sets. Most of my retarded friends hated the stuff but I >thought it was great. > >So far I only have two cds and some mp3s, so I guess I have a long road >ahead of me. Does anyone else think Down at the Ballpark is eerily similar >to Run Like An Antelope from phish's lawn boy album??? > >I'd also love to trade for live jandek tapes if any one is interested. I >have every new year's Phish concert since 1987, and a couple hundred >concerts since 1992. Most are high quality except for the usual hippie >Deadhead banter from the crowd. I have far more disdainful filth and bile to spew towards these hippie jam-rock bands and their baked fans than this guy, but I'm keeping it to myself. Sorry, evrybody, I guess I really fucked this one up. I've turned the Jandek discussion line to a forum for the Grateful Dead. How did this happen? Why is it that whatever I touch turns to shit? why why why really, tho. Sorry. Message-ID: From: NCR13@aol.com To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Cobain?! Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:28:56 EST In a message dated 1/6/00 7:50:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, errora@earthlink.net writes: > It doesn't matter what other music you listen to. Jandek is NOT about > your other musical tastes because he's not making music, whoever HE is. > He is making atmospheres, moods, anti-atmospheres and anti-moods and the > results are always a challenge to the ear. There would never be a > number one single. The fact that he uses a tape machine, acoustic > guitar, drums, electric guitar, piano, voice, recites lyrics, etc. > doesn't mean that he's making music. It is sounds that sound very > one-take and it is D.I.Y. all round. Well, let's see...I can certainly compare "I Know You Well" off Follow Your Footsteps to John Fahey's "On the Sunny Side of the Ocean", which is about as musical as you're going to get and is most certainly well-rehearsed. "Alehouse Blues" and "Cellar" (2 parts of what I hope will be a musical trilogy?) are passable attempts at electric and acoustic/folk blues respectively. I think he CAN be indisputably musical at times; he just chooses to go with the "challenging" type stuff more often than not. My favorite Jandek song, "Upon the Grandeur" , has one of the most beautiful guitar parts I've ever heard yet it still sounds incredibly fragile and isolated, so he certainly has it in him to go in both directions at once. But what do I know, I like Nirvana ;) NCR "...And this here ain't no jive" Message-ID: <20000107090206.37354.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "chrislyn carter" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: not sterling Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 03:02:06 CST Hi- At the risk of participating in some sort of endless debate (Stratfordians vs Baconians vs etc.), how do we know that there is a lone man (Sterling R. Smith for instance) that claims the name or identity of Jandek? Christina I lived in Houston for 29 years until 2 years ago. Now Austin is home and I visit Houston regularly. Message-ID: From: Tom Dickinson To: chrislyn carter cc: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: not sterling Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 02:29:15 -0700 (MST) In-Reply-To: <20000107090206.37354.qmail@hotmail.com> Thank you, Christina, for that much needed dose of reality in your latest missive (not to mention for quite a few other things). Incidentally, am I too cynical or does anyone else think that the correspondent who wanted to trade live Jandek tapes for Phish stuff was indulging in an all-too-obvious farcical putdown of the naive mailing list mentality? +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Tom Dickinson email: Thomas.Dickinson@colorado.edu website: http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~dickintw Message-ID: <38760001.16CE@earthlink.net> From: awa To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: much needed dose of reality Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 07:02:25 -0800 Tom Dickinson wrote: > Thank you, Christina, for that much needed dose of reality in your latest > missive (not to mention for quite a few other things). Whew, yeah, thanks. How heavy a dose of reality was that? Message-Id: From: "Aaron Aldorisio" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Jandek vs. the Mailing List Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 09:19:02 -0600 Hello- I'm not sure which of the many debates going on I'm about to become = involved in, but here goes. Though part of me wants to know more about = "Jandek," or Sterling Smith or whatever the musican(s) real name is, and I = did enjoy the Texas Monthly article, I feel that we should leave the man = alone. Brian Wilson didn't wan't to be bothered, yet fans and friends = would not leave him alone, and look what happened to him. Sure, sometimes = the mystery surrounding Jandek can be frustrating, but I'm fairly content = with what little information the man has offered. Irwin Chusid, who I = believe has definitely spoken with the person who makes the music on = Jandek records, says in his new book Songs in the Key of Z, "Jandek is a = man named Sterling Smith." But who knows... On another note, there's an article about Jandek featured in this week's = Chicago Reader. Aaron Message-ID: <20000107154006.13056.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> From: "O.K. Robot" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Jandek vs. the Mailing List Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 07:40:06 -0800 (PST) Aaron Aldorisio wrote: > Irwin Chusid, who I believe has > definitely spoken with the person who makes the > music on Jandek records, says in his new book Songs > in the Key of Z, "Jandek is a man named Sterling > Smith." But who knows... Oh that's another thing- Irwin's kind of a prick for saying that in his book. He should know that Jandek (whoever he is) would not want his identity revealed, and that his fans do not want the MYSTIQUE wrecked by some know-it-all jerk trying to impress everyone!!! Another example of his disrespect. But he probably never spoke to Jandek anyway... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Message-Id: <200001071616.KAA28791@harper.uchicago.edu> From: Ben Evans To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Jandek vs. the Mailing List Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:16:16 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20000107154006.13056.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> Fellow Jandekians, I was thinking that perhaps Irwin printed that allegation(which I think we can deduce is completely false) as a red herring to prevent people from looking for the true identity (or identities) of Jandek. Where did the Sterling Smith allegations originate anyway? -Ben Message-ID: <20000107190112.1177.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "bob lukomski" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: The Smith(s) Contraversy Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 14:01:12 EST In one of the first issues of SPIN magazine (Not the premier issue, but maybe the 2nd or 3rd - summer of 1985, I have a copy somewhere) John Trubee wrote a brief article about Jandek and identified the man behind the music as one Sterling Smith, a machinist working in Houston, TX. Assuming this is consistent with other stories of Jandek's early years - 1979-sometime in the mid 80's (cf. Chusid, Option, Op) - it seems that "our" man was somewhat forthcoming with at least some information, including returning phone calls and advertising Corwood product. I first got into Jandek's music as a result of, and about 8 months after, reading said SPIN article (That's what college is for...) in 1986, when TELEGRAPH MELTS came out. That following summer was the first I had heard of the whole "mystique" issue (in Forced Exposeur magazine). I don't know if Corwood had a hands off policy before this point, or if it arose out of the SPIN article, or if it is just coincidence. Hell, maybe Messrs. Coley and Johnson had something to do with it... just kidding (don't know who's gonna get offended here, or worse yet, take things TOO seriously). Whatever the reason, people started hitting the Corwood brick wall around 1985 in earnest. Whilst I do enjoy contemplating the Jandek "mystique" (I admit that I got excited when I got the "standard" cryptic note on the typewritten catalogue), ultimately it's a potential energy vacuum. As a composer (composeur?) of what is considered "serious" music (for choral and chamber ensembles, nach - not trying to play the academic elitist card either, this is just where I'm at) (hey - sorry 'bout all the "quotes" - I'm acting like Dr. Evil), I've been told by teachers to leave my ego out of the process, that nobody cares what "I" think regarding the pieces I write, one's music has to live or die on it's own merits. Maybe Jandek/Corwood/Sterling Smith/Whatever-you-believe-Jandek-to-be is trying his darndest to do the same thing... "There's nothing *to* get..." Bob Lukomski BTW, "Lavender" is one beautiful piece of music. Message-ID: <00eb01bf5943$d17bdde0$a769a8c0@multiplan.com> From: "David Willems" To: Subject: ready for the house Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:17:10 -0500 I was just taking a close look at the cover for Ready For The House. It's really amazing. The colors of the wall and window sill. My favorite bit is the coasters under the couch on an immaculately vacuumed carpet. Has anyone ever identified the book on the window sill? It looks like a portrait of Shakespeare, however it could be any of those Rennaissance writers, all their portraits tend to look the same. Message-Id: <200001071947.NAA01615@harper.uchicago.edu> From: Ben Evans To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: The Smith(s) Contraversy Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 13:47:47 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20000107190112.1177.qmail@hotmail.com> At 02:01 PM 1/7/00 -0500, bob lukomski wrote: >In one of the first issues of SPIN magazine (Not the premier issue, but >maybe the 2nd or 3rd - summer of 1985, I have a copy somewhere) John Trubee >wrote a brief article about Jandek and identified the man behind the music >as one Sterling Smith, a machinist working in Houston, TX. Is this article on the web anywhere? Somehow the "machinist" occupation doesn't quite fit with the Texas Monthly article for me.... Thanks, "just" curious, Ben Message-ID: <20000107200531.11433.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "bob lukomski" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: ready for the house Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 15:05:30 EST >From: "David Willems" >I was just taking a close look at the cover for Ready For The House. It's >really amazing. The colors of the wall and window sill. My favorite bit >is >the coasters under the couch on an immaculately vacuumed carpet. Has >anyone >ever identified the book on the window sill? It looks like a portrait of >Shakespeare, however it could be any of those Rennaissance writers, all >their portraits tend to look the same. I thought it was a Penguin Classics edition of Machiavelli's THE PRINCE, which opens up an interesting can o' worms... but it could be Spinoza's ETHICS, which in some odd way is more in keeping with the "mystique", altho' I've always took Jandek's cosmology (based upon his lyrics) to have more of a Kierkegaardian bent...huh-huh. Lukomski Message-Id: From: Jon Fine To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: The Smith(s) Contraversy Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:07:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20000107190112.1177.qmail@hotmail.com> In late '88, a booking agent (Craig Koon, who now lives in Austin) tried to convince jandek to do a tour. The radio station I worked at contacted Corwoo--or the booking agent did, can't recall--several times, to get him (assuming...) to play at the campus chapel. I didn't make the calls, but I remember the person who did said the person at Corwood sounded kinda nervous, generally evasive, and kept referring to Jandek as "them": "...well, uh, I'll try to get in touch with THEM. I'll have to see what THEY think. I mean, it's really all up to THEM." Etc. Even back then (and for a couple years before, so far as I knew), the Jandek/Corwood bunker mentality was in full effect, so I doubt that the SPIN or FE articles had anything to do with it. I read in Conflict in '86 that Sterling Smith answered the phone at Corwood but insisted he wasn't the man. I don't recall ever seeing a Corwood ad. For what it's worth, Katy Vine's description of the man she approached sort of squares with the personal information on Sterling Smith's web site--he works for Hewlett Packard or something like that. has this all been mentioned before? probably. "it comes around every century. so wrap it up." jf Message-ID: <20000107212615.9807.qmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> From: Matthew Perpetua To: Jon Fine Cc: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: The Smith(s) Contraversy Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:26:15 -0800 (PST) > For what it's worth, Katy Vine's description of the > man she approached sort > of squares with the personal information on Sterling > Smith's web site--he > works for Hewlett Packard or something like that. a very good point about this was made on the FMBB (http://discserver.snap.com/Indices/14995.html) yesterday: the guy on that page is much too young to be Jandek, much less the Sterling Smith we're talking about...he graduated college in 87! think about how young that'd make him around 78! Message-Id: <200001072144.PAA24103@harper.uchicago.edu> From: Ben Evans To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: The Smith(s) Contraversy Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 15:45:00 -0600 In-Reply-To: At 01:07 PM 1/7/00 -0800, Jon Finewrote: >For what it's worth, Katy Vine's description of the man she approached sort >of squares with the personal information on Sterling Smith's web site--he >works for Hewlett Packard or something like that. Although the web page of "Sterling Smith" features someone who looks very unlike the photographs on the Lps, he does have reddish hair and light skin, so maybe these two people could be related (to each other and/or "Jandek"). The web page of "Sterling Smith"(http://home.earthlink.net/~sylver/biopage.html) describes someone who graduated from Eastern Kentucky University in 1987 with a B.S in Mathematics, and so was unlikely to be the machinist who was running Corwood in the early eighties or even late seventies. This "Sterling Smith" has posted his resume which includes his current position with the Houston based Compaq Computer Corporation(ASIC design department of the Portable Products division), Ford Microelectronics, Inc.(Computer Assisted Engineering), Symmetrix, Inc. and even Radio Shack("I was a certified, card-carrying, Sales Associate"!!!). Would be too easy if he included his previous job as a machinist? He also claims, along with "Ed Smith" and "Chuck Smith" to have contributed to the "top 5" web site(!!!): http://www.topfive.com/ -Ben Message-Id: From: "Sam M." To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: The Smith(s) Controversy Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 17:47:53 -0500 >>In one of the first issues of SPIN magazine (Not the premier issue, but >>maybe the 2nd or 3rd - summer of 1985, I have a copy somewhere) John Trubee >>wrote a brief article about Jandek and identified the man behind the music >>as one Sterling Smith, a machinist working in Houston, TX. Vol. 1, Issue 5, 1985, page 12. Pat Benatar cover. Read it while going through my old mags this Xmas. One does wonder if this info is totally accurate, though... Message-ID: From: "Bette Schultz and Paul Payton" To: Subject: RE: AARON Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:51:11 -0500 Hello- I'm not sure which of the many debates going on I'm about to become involved in, but here goes. Though part of me wants to know more about "Jandek," or Sterling Smith or whatever the musican(s) real name is, and I did enjoy the Texas Monthly article, I feel that we should leave the man alone. Brian Wilson didn't wan't to be bothered, yet fans and friends would not leave him alone, and look what happened to him. Sure, sometimes the mystery surrounding Jandek can be frustrating, but I'm fairly content with what little information the man has offered. Irwin Chusid, who I believe has definitely spoken with the person who makes the music on Jandek records, says in his new book Songs in the Key of Z, "Jandek is a man named Sterling Smith." But who knows... Re: above from Aaron. Some of my favorite music is by total phantoms. Not knowing who they are or what they look like adds to their mystique; I can create my own mental visuals to go with their audio trips. And it works the other way--occasionally a mental picture of an artist has been shattered when I see a real one, and my subvsequent enjoyment is colored or even diminished by the extra knowledge. If Jandek really was Sterming Smith or the straight business guy or both, what does it prove? It sounds like the academic research has gone about as far as it can go until the first-person source gives out more information. And personally, I trust Irwin.... Paul Message-ID: From: "David Miller" To: "Sam M." , Subject: RE: The Smith(s) Controversy Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:29:33 -0600 In-Reply-To: You should scan the article in and send it off to seth to publish on the web - or publish it yourself. david Message-ID: From: "David Miller" To: "David Willems" , Subject: RE: ready for the house Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:32:52 -0600 In-Reply-To: <00eb01bf5943$d17bdde0$a769a8c0@multiplan.com> >From the covers that I've seen, I get consistently surprised by how they are actually 'good' photographs: i.e. the composition in some of them is actually pretty good - one has to have an eye for that stuff... Message-ID: <20000107233225.90879.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "aerick mackintosh" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: i daydream of live jandek. Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 15:32:25 PST hmmn... for some reason i got this daydream.. sitting here staring at the library computer.. sort of everyone talking about jandek here and now this image of jandek playing live calls up a strange scenario in my head... i am imagining someone walking down a street somewhere in texas... this person has never heard of jandek before... all of a sudden a van drives slowly up behind him... door to the van opening.. two by four hitting the walking man in the head... the man passes out........ ... ... .. when he comes to he finds himself sitting in a strange room... the room from the first album... colors are the same... sitting in the chair is jandek with a bag over his head.. written on the bag is "hello, my name is jandek"... two men hold the walking man captive by linking with his arms... one of the two leans towards the captives ear and whispers "ask no more questions"... jandek begins to play music... imagine any strange series of jandek tunes in your head... they waft thru the air and caress the captive man... when jandek stops the music the two captors begin to clap... the captive man then passes out..... ... when he awakens he finds himself abandoned by the side of the road.. nearby hearing the din of machinery at work. thank you jandek, aerick duckhugger Message-ID: <30.30165ce5.25a7d3a6@aol.com> From: NCR13@aol.com To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: The Smith(s) Contraversy Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:41:26 EST If you can believe Chusid, he has stated in one of his articles that the Sterling Smith that you will find in the phone book is not the same person. Who knows if this is true, though. As for Jandek being a "them", On the Way (the record out at the time in question) has a "band" sound to it... maybe it is like a GBV thing where other people float in and out but it's always called Jandek. Message-ID: <20000108004934.75605.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Jason Cooley" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: >>>>>+<<<<< Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 16:49:34 PST I think it's pretty obvious from Sterling's picture that he and the person on the album covers are related in some way. Brothers, I'll wager. Message-ID: <89.896999c2.25a7ff45@aol.com> From: Virgielder@aol.com To: skoolbus@hotmail.com, jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: >>>>>+<<<<< Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:47:33 EST I really do not see any physical similarities between the man who has the homepage and Jandek. Sterling Smith is not an incredibly uncommon name, and there is little reason to believe that the two people are related, besides the fact that they both live in Texas. I don't see any reason to believe that Jandek's name is not Sterling Smith, however, since it is the name that he has commonly used throughout his periodic associations with writers. Although the man in the Texas Monthly article does refuse to let the writer know pertinent information about him, it is completely understandable that he wouldn't. One never knows what a fan is capable of. I think that Jandek likes to come up for air every once in a while, to let people know that he's still around, but he doesn't want anyone to get too close. Something that's been running through my head while I've been reading these posts is the possibility (in all likelihood, a probability, if one is to believe the statement in the Texas Monthly article that he uses the Internet) that he has been reading all these posts. There's something undeniably creepy about that. Tim Message-ID: From: "Bette Schultz and Paul Payton" To: Subject: RE: >>>>>+<<<<< Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:52:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: <89.896999c2.25a7ff45@aol.com> Did y'ever think whether Jandek, whoever he/they may be, hasa been reading all these missives, enjoying a silent chuckle to himself? Or maybe it's even Seth, our webmaster... Hmmmm... Paul Message-Id: From: "Sam M." To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Jandek articles Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:13:37 -0500 Sorry all - I spent Xmas at my parents, which is where my old mags are...and that's 2000 miles from here. I won't be in a position to retrieve it for a while, but hopefully my citation will make said ish easier for someone else to track down in the meantime! On this front, what's this i hear about a Forced Exposure article? Must have been just before I subscribed (they still owe me 3 issues, too!)... Message-ID: From: Sam Leimer To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: The Smith(s) Contraversy Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:43:44 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <20000107212615.9807.qmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> One time last year, when I was working for this law firm, I did a search on this credit rating site for all the Sterling Smiths in Texas (you know just for kicks)... There was only one. He was living at the "correct" address, but according to the site he had only lived there for like, 1 year although there was a 99% chance that he owned his home. It also said he was born in 1901. crazy. make heads or tails of that Dead fans! Sam Message-ID: <20000116214351.28923.qmail@cs.nwu.edu> From: "mark and molly" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:31:10 -0600 was out of town for a few days to retrieve 50 jandek messages in my box. I can't take this senseless speculation and ridiculous phish tangents any longer. doesn't anybody have anything better to do with their lives, perhaps reorganize your comic books or something. With the exception of the occasional christina carter and maybe one other these messages are pointless. I live in Houston and see Jandek at the grocery all the time. Yes, he buys organic and fits the texas monthly description down to the car - -- although he's actually really intimidating looking, even in middle age -- and I leave him alone. It's obvious he doesn't want anyone bothering him. jandek tribute albums? what has this come to? just buy the records and appreciate them and don't make a cartoon out of the one interesting thing about this city. please unsubscribe. Message-ID: <20000117011748.10723.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com> From: Bradley Be To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Cc: juneoliver@pdq.net Subject: Re: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:17:48 -0800 (PST) How to unsubscribe: Send a message with only the word "unsubscribe" in the body to: jandek-request@cs.nwu.edu How not to unsubscribe: Send some bullshit message to the list about how much better you are than everyone else on the list, and then bother Seth who has to then manually unsubscribe you. I'm sick of people venting their frustrations to the list just because Jandek doesn't buy a full page ad in Rolling Stone for every new release, and therefore people discover his music every day as a result of their own efforts to discover new music that is not shoved down the public's throats. I'm glad to answer any questions from new fans who aren't familliar with Jandek's public persona (or lack of). Your stating that you know Jandek proves that YOU are a stupid childish one-upper. If you don't like the posts to the list, either post something better or shut the fuck up! Message-Id: <200001171446.IAA15548@harper.uchicago.edu> From: Ben Evans To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Buying Organic Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:46:09 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20000117011748.10723.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com> >> From: "mark and molly" >>I live in Houston and see Jandek at the grocery >> all the time. >> Yes, he buys organic and fits the texas monthly description >> down to the car >> - -- although he's actually really intimidating looking, >> even in middle age -- >> and I leave him alone. It's obvious he doesn't want anyone >> bothering him. But what I want to know is which grocery store is it? And which vegetables? I imagine Jandek to be a vegetarian most of the time, usually eating the broccoli he grows himself in his garden, except when he goes out to some fancy black tie restaurant in Montreal and orders the duck. I would be crushed to learn he eats at Taco Bell. Love, Ben Message-ID: From: Sam Gaines To: Subject: Guidance for a Jandek newbie? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:22:58 -0500 Just wondering if some Jandek long-timers could offer some purchasing guidance to the utterly uninitiated (namely, me) about where to start, among the available releases? I gather that he's a taste to be acquired, but I am absolutely ready to acquire it. Thanks for any help! Sam Gaines Managing Editor -- EYE magazine "Subcultural Surveillance" http://www.eyemag.com Message-ID: <011f01bf6100$1067de00$a769a8c0@multiplan.com> From: "David Willems" To: "Sam Gaines" , Subject: Re: Guidance for a Jandek newbie? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:32:20 -0500 I would suggest, now that they re-released the first jandek album "Ready For The House" that you pick that up first, from what I've heard of his stuff, this pretty much introduces the whole Jandek "sound" and in turn starts some of the major themes, and ideas that have surfaced through his whole career and has the original version of European Jewel. Message-Id: From: Ian Kasley To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Buying Organic Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:02:27 -0800 At 8:46 AM -0600 1/17/00, Ben Evans wrote: >But what I want to know is which grocery store is it? And which vegetables? >I imagine Jandek to be a vegetarian most of the time, usually eating the >broccoli he grows himself in his garden, except when he goes out to some >fancy black tie restaurant in Montreal and orders the duck. I would be >crushed to learn he eats at Taco Bell. hmm. personally, i imagine Jandek sulking quietly somewhere in a Vietnamese noodle shop. or maybe an all-night taqueria. totally unrelated, has anyone else ever thought that those clacking noises on tunes like "Niagra Blues" and "Janitor's Dead" off of "The Living End" sound an awful lot like pool balls smacking into each other? i recently got ahold of a copy of "Somebody In the Snow" and there's a track on there where this distinctive sound turns up as well. just wondering... -ian Message-ID: <9891-388AD20B-8799@storefull-238.iap.bryant.webtv.net> From: henry65@webtv.net (Joseph Henry) To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: jandek Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 04:03:55 -0600 (CST) if you were to buy one cd to begin listening to his music, what would you suggest thanks the biggest daddy of them all Message-ID: <20000124231159.61786.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Bob M" To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: ...hey there...!! Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:11:59 CST ...any idea of where I can actually sample some of Jandek's stuff on the Web??