[Jandek] RE: jandek Digest, Vol 55, Issue 37
alanger at hotmail.co.uk
Sat Feb 24 10:09:25 PST 2007
to be honest, i think Mr. Smith wouldnt give a toss.
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> 1. Re: jandek Digest, Vol 55, Issue 36 (A. Chankin)
>From: "A. Chankin" <achankin at gmail.com>
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>Subject: [Jandek] Re: jandek Digest, Vol 55, Issue 36
>Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:43:40 -0500
>Ah, come on guys. You know better, or you really ought to.
>"a letter is not actually a copyrighted statement, and in fact can said to
>be "owned" by its recipient. So it's on the recipient's shoulders."
>Sorry, but no, what you stated there is totally incorrect.
> A letter absolutely is a copyright protected from the moment the pen hits
>the page. It is NOT on the recipients shoulders whether to publish it.
>recipient has zero legal right to publish a letter from someone else
>permission, and is breaking the law if they do so.
>If you don't believe me, look up the law for yourself; I'll make it easy
>you to do so:
>202. Ownership of copyright as distinct from ownership of material object
>Ownership of a copyright, or of any of the exclusive rights under a
>copyright, is distinct from ownership of any material object in which the
>work is embodied. Transfer of ownership of any material object, including
>the copy or phonorecord in which the work is first fixed, does not of
>convey any rights in the copyrighted work embodied in the object; nor, in
>the absence of an agreement, does transfer of ownership of a copyright or
>any exclusive rights under a copyright convey property rights in any
>As I mentioned the respect issue is separate, that is more of a personal
>ethical question, to which I personally believe the answer there supports
>the legal answer.
>As for the "poor man's copyright" someone mentioned, that is again not
>spot on. A work is copyrighted from the instant you create it. You do not
>have to register it in any way for copyright to exist. The poor mans
>copyright refers to how one registers a copyright. The only way to
>officially register it in the US is to mail it in with the proper forms and
>fees to the US copyright office. Poor mans copyright refers to the idea
>some people have that they can mail a work or document to themselves and
>thus provide some evidence that they created it and when they did, and of
>course the US copyright office wants to discourage you from doing that for
>lot of good reasons. But the work is copyrighted whether it is registered
>or not, or even if it is incorrectly registered.
>408. Copyright registration in
>(a) Registration Permissive. — At any time during the subsistence of the
>first term of copyright in any published or unpublished work in which the
>copyright was secured before January 1, 1978, and during the subsistence of
>any copyright secured on or after that date, the owner of copyright or of
>any exclusive right in the work may obtain registration of the copyright
>claim by delivering to the Copyright Office the deposit specified by this
>section, together with the application and fee specified by sections
>708. <http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap7.html#708> Such registration
>is not a condition of copyright protection.
>Again, all of this is not to say that the correspondence can never be
>published. It is all just to say that it is Corwood's decision as to if
>when that correspondence is published, even if they sent it to other
>people. (Unless you are talking about some time in the future when the
>copyright has expired, which is likely to be at least the 22nd century.)
>It could be all public domain, right now, but only if Corwood chose to make
>it so. I haven't seen anything suggesting that has taken place, so in the
>absence of any permission, people really shouldn't be posting bits of their
>correspondence here or elsewhere on the internet. I personally think it's
>disrespectful, but that is besides the point, it is actually illegal.
>P.S. Lauren, again I agree it has nothing to do with the veil of secrecy or
>anything. This protection applies when you or I or Grandma Smith writes a
>letter too, it really has nothing to do with Jandek per se.
>I also have to object to the distinction you draw between "letters" and
>"notes." There is no such distinction in copyright law. Brief notes are
>equally protected as correspondence. I'm glad you feel it wise not to
>things out of courtesy, but you should extend that courtesy to everything
>you recieve from anyone, even if it's brief, and keep in mind that not just
>your courtesy, but awareness of people's rights is a factor to consider.
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