Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28427 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:54:19 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03IsJC21787 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:54:19 -0600 Received: (qmail 11683 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2002 16:35:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 31 Dec 2002 16:35:02 -0000 Received: from web10807.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.130.249]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:33:04 -0600 Message-ID: <20021231163304.40695.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.184.13.132] by web10807.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 08:33:04 PST Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 08:33:04 -0800 (PST) From: Danen Subject: Re: Jandek site To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20021227035529.84492.qmail@web41406.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2002 16:33:04.0723 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B04B230:01C2B0EA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Daniel Marks wrote: > > > Because a new fan will most likely come to Seth's > site > first, he is likely to be influenced by opinions of > its author. This is evidenced by the exchange of > emails a while ago regarding the different players > on > European Jewel, while the site said that the first > recording with a different player was "John Plays > Drums". The question was, why does everyone say that > "JPD" is the first appearence of an outside > instrumentalist? The tounge-in-cheek answer: because > the site says so! I think you're shorting Jandek fans some, Daniel. The reason I keep on this list (though unfortunately life has kept me from commenting more often like I used to) is the overall intelligence of the people commenting. We have real DEBATES here, the kind a standard fan-boy list doesn't have. My point? People come to Jandek knowing the mystery, and wanting, in some way, to SOLVE the mystery. But when one is new to Jandek, you want someplace to start, and I think Seth has given that to people. Between Seth and Chusid (and the documentary coming soon), people can get a primer on this shadowy figure, then if they join the list they'll get other sides of the story. Obviously, Seth's opinion hasn't changed yours, and I bet you've caused Seth to think a time or two. A real fan, after receiving info, will throw out some theories and probably invent others. Maybe Blue Corpse is a throwaway that means little to the author? Maybe it's a personal statement about a breakup with Nancy? Who knows? Point is, anybody that sticks around after listening to "Living in a Moon so Blue" isn't going to patly accept things like your standard Ryan Adams fan. (yes, I know that's a BIG generalization, but you gotta point the finger somewhere, and NSYNC are overused) In conclusion: What Seth offers is a place to start. What we do on the list is stretch that out and delve further. Nobody gets offended (often) that not everyone agrees, and the worst thing (let's face it) that could happen to any of us is for Jandek to come out and tell us the whole story. I pray he never does.Meantime, newbies can get up to speed on Seth's site. If you want to put up your opinions, start your own. Seth clearly doesn't have time to list all the differences we all have! I applaud him his devotion. but Chusid's book now confirms there were > different players on European Jewel (it being the > only > song featuring a bass in the early period---although > i > could be wrong about that!). Ever heard of the fiction term "untrustworthy narrator?" Who knows the validity of those early letters? Remember, this is a man who BADLY wanted to make an image. Maybe he told the truth. Maybe he didn't. We don't really know, do we? We DO know that Nancy is not Jandek (obviously), and that "John plays Drums" has a new person, but maybe John is Jandek's alter-ego and he wanted to throw people. Or maybe (as I theorized some three years ago) Jandek is an "Anonymous Collective" group name and people come and go frequently, with Sterling being the only constant. Don't even know if I buy that theory anymore. Point is, Chusid and Seth might be closer to the truth, but maybe not. I take no one's word for God. "Follow the music," damn straight. Opinions on the new album, anyone? Danen __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28426 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:53:32 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03IrV221757 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:53:31 -0600 Received: (qmail 32082 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2002 19:45:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Dec 2002 19:45:10 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 28 Dec 2002 13:38:38 -0600 Received: (qmail 13445 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2002 19:38:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by 205-158-62-139.outblaze.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2002 19:38:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 41993 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2002 19:38:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.59) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2002 19:38:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 54343 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Dec 2002 19:38:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20021228193831.54342.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:38:31 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:38:31 -0500 Subject: hooray for ebay X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2002 19:38:38.0497 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8068910:01C2AEA8] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I just got my mint sealed copy of "One Foot In The North" in the mail. Paid $27.00 dollars for it through ebay. I'm debating on whether to open it up and put it on the turn table or not. I also just paid $16.00 to a small online store called Last Vestige Record Shop for a mint sealed copy of "Twelfth Apostle". -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28428 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 19:01:14 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:54:29 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03IsSJ21813 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:54:28 -0600 Received: (qmail 16474 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2002 19:00:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 31 Dec 2002 19:00:56 -0000 Received: from navgate2.boston.k12.ma.us ([204.57.47.3] unverified) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:51:52 -0600 Received: from mail01.admin.mybps.org ([192.168.252.80]) by navgate2.boston.k12.ma.us (SAVSMTP 3.0.0.44) with SMTP id M2002123113533515499 ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:53:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:51:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200212311351.AA431489308@mail01.admin.mybps.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Warren, Andrew" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: CC: "joshua david mann" Subject: Jandek Orgy on 95.3 WHRB X-Mailer: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2002 18:51:52.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEA81260:01C2B0FD] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Greetings Jandek fans! I wanted to inform you of an upcoming Jandek Orgy on WHRB 95.3, the Harvard radio station. The orgy will run January 20th, 21st, 22nd: 10pm-6am. We will be playing all of Jandek's LPs and CDs during this time. We are also attempting to secure a couple of relevant interviews, and any info about the upcoming Jandek documentary would be most appreciated... For more info about WHRB, or to listen online, go to whrb.org Happy new year! Andrew Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31767 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 20:11:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 20:11:19 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:10:34 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03KAXL24549 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:10:33 -0600 Received: (qmail 30939 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 19:47:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 19:47:18 -0000 Received: from web41409.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.75]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:45:25 -0600 Message-ID: <20030103194524.44118.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.172.240] by web41409.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:45:24 PST Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:45:24 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Jandek site To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20021231163304.40695.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2003 19:45:25.0084 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8D949C0:01C2B360] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I agree with you, fully. Seth's site is exactly that: a great place to start. I didn't mean to undermine its greatness in any way with my comments, just to make some suggestions. As for making my own site---- well I'm going to do just that. Why should there be just one? So stay tuned all of you for Daniel Marks' Corwood Industries Page, eventually finding a home at: http://www.geocities.com/alfredggnome/jandek.html It'll have reviews of the albums I consider to be his best, and essays about Jandek, going over the same themes i've gone over here (the "eddie" theory, the three periods, the end of the music, ect.), a scan of the catalog, and various other snippets. I'm not trying to beat seth (that'd be beyond my ability), just bringing new opinions beyond this mailing list, and hopefully creating an alternative starting point for new listeners, or at least an agumentation. wow, that last sentence was a run-on. "I couldn't be a reader/I had to write the words" D.M. --- Danen wrote: > > --- Daniel Marks wrote: > > > > > > > Because a new fan will most likely come to Seth's > > site > > first, he is likely to be influenced by opinions > of > > its author. This is evidenced by the exchange of > > emails a while ago regarding the different players > > on > > European Jewel, while the site said that the first > > recording with a different player was "John Plays > > Drums". The question was, why does everyone say > that > > "JPD" is the first appearence of an outside > > instrumentalist? The tounge-in-cheek answer: > because > > the site says so! > > I think you're shorting Jandek fans some, Daniel. > The > reason I keep on this list (though unfortunately > life > has kept me from commenting more often like I used > to) > is the overall intelligence of the people > commenting. > We have real DEBATES here, the kind a standard > fan-boy > list doesn't have. My point? People come to Jandek > knowing the mystery, and wanting, in some way, to > SOLVE the mystery. But when one is new to Jandek, > you > want someplace to start, and I think Seth has given > that to people. Between Seth and Chusid (and the > documentary coming soon), people can get a primer on > this shadowy figure, then if they join the list > they'll get other sides of the story. Obviously, > Seth's opinion hasn't changed yours, and I bet > you've > caused Seth to think a time or two. A real fan, > after > receiving info, will throw out some theories and > probably invent others. Maybe Blue Corpse is a > throwaway that means little to the author? Maybe > it's > a personal statement about a breakup with Nancy? > Who > knows? Point is, anybody that sticks around after > listening to "Living in a Moon so Blue" isn't going > to > patly accept things like your standard Ryan Adams > fan. > (yes, I know that's a BIG generalization, but you > gotta point the finger somewhere, and NSYNC are > overused) > > In conclusion: What Seth offers is a place to start. > What we do on the list is stretch that out and delve > further. Nobody gets offended (often) that not > everyone agrees, and the worst thing (let's face it) > that could happen to any of us is for Jandek to come > out and tell us the whole story. I pray he never > does.Meantime, newbies can get up to speed on Seth's > site. If you want to put up your opinions, start > your > own. Seth clearly doesn't have time to list all the > differences we all have! I applaud him his devotion. > > > but Chusid's book now confirms there were > > different players on European Jewel (it being the > > only > > song featuring a bass in the early > period---although > > i > > could be wrong about that!). > > Ever heard of the fiction term "untrustworthy > narrator?" Who knows the validity of those early > letters? Remember, this is a man who BADLY wanted to > make an image. Maybe he told the truth. Maybe he > didn't. We don't really know, do we? We DO know that > Nancy is not Jandek (obviously), and that "John > plays > Drums" has a new person, but maybe John is Jandek's > alter-ego and he wanted to throw people. Or maybe > (as > I theorized some three years ago) Jandek is an > "Anonymous Collective" group name and people come > and > go frequently, with Sterling being the only > constant. > Don't even know if I buy that theory anymore. Point > is, Chusid and Seth might be closer to the truth, > but > maybe not. I take no one's word for God. "Follow the > music," damn straight. > > Opinions on the new album, anyone? > > Danen > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 2787 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 21:58:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 21:58:43 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:51:59 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03Lpx026307 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:51:59 -0600 Received: (qmail 2297 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 21:46:31 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 21:46:31 -0000 Received: from web13310.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.222]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:46:10 -0600 Message-ID: <20030103214609.5968.qmail@web13310.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.126.199.89] by web13310.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:46:09 PST Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:46:09 -0800 (PST) From: Bradley Be Subject: Re: Jandek site / names To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030103194524.44118.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2003 21:46:10.0631 (UTC) FILETIME=[87880570:01C2B371] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Daniel Marks wrote: ...As for making my own site---- well > I'm going to do just that. I am also happy to provide various non-intrusive Jandek minutiae, including an updated scan of the Corwood Industries discography: http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee/corwood.jpg Seth's site also mentions a Hungarian reference to "ajandek." An artist with a somewhat similar name, Jarboe, is often the victim of bad name pronounciation. Her name, pronounced "ZHAR-BOW," is often mis-pronounced with a hard "J" sound as "JAR-BOW." Are we actually American-izing pronounciation of Jandek's name? Should it be pronounced with a soft "J" sound as "ZHAN-DECK" ??? "YAN-DEK" ??? Would any linguistics experts on the list care to comment? ===== http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7221 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 23:55:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 23:55:45 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:55:23 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h03NtNU28553 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:55:23 -0600 Received: (qmail 7085 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 23:51:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 23:51:44 -0000 Received: from web41413.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.79]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:51:20 -0600 Message-ID: <20030103235120.43828.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.172.240] by web41413.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 15:51:20 PST Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:51:20 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Jandek site / names To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030103214609.5968.qmail@web13310.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2003 23:51:20.0849 (UTC) FILETIME=[03F85810:01C2B383] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk hey! On the Way, The Living End, and Somebody in the Snow have all been reissued! Awesome! no one mentioned that. I guess Ian kasley has to take the rest of the real audio files down. not that the server was ever friendly. 4 CDs in four months..... like he's in a rush to get it all out. Wierd.----as for the pronuciation, I know our friends in the UK pronounce it "Jon-dek", and one reviewer from there posed the question of whether his real name was "John". Funny, accents. the jandek orgy sounds awesome. i wish i could tape it all.... i'm lucky i live close enough to hear harvard's radio station-- at least i think. D.M. > I am also happy to provide various non-intrusive > Jandek minutiae, including an updated scan of the > Corwood Industries discography: > > http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee/corwood.jpg > > Seth's site also mentions a Hungarian reference to > "ajandek." An artist with a somewhat similar name, > Jarboe, is often the victim of bad name > pronounciation. Her name, pronounced "ZHAR-BOW," is > often mis-pronounced with a hard "J" sound as > "JAR-BOW." > > Are we actually American-izing pronounciation of > Jandek's name? Should it be pronounced with a soft > "J" sound as "ZHAN-DECK" ??? "YAN-DEK" ??? Would > any linguistics experts on the list care to comment? > > > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 10217 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 01:39:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 01:39:43 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:34:38 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h041Ybc29419 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:34:37 -0600 Received: (qmail 9239 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 00:59:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 00:59:44 -0000 Received: from web13307.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.175.43]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:50:39 -0600 Message-ID: <20030104005039.13657.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.126.199.89] by web13307.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:50:39 PST Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:50:39 -0800 (PST) From: Bradley Be Subject: Re: Jandek site / names To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030103235120.43828.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2003 00:50:40.0045 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D6A8DD0:01C2B38B] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Daniel Marks wrote: > hey! On the Way, The Living End, and Somebody in the > Snow have all been reissued! Awesome! no one > mentioned > that. Oh shit! I guess they have been re-released. I was so excited about ordering the new one that I didn't check for more re-releases :) ===== http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 781 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 16:01:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 16:01:52 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:52:27 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h04FqQb01869 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:52:26 -0600 Received: (qmail 20574 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 08:02:51 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 08:02:51 -0000 Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.164]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:54:03 -0600 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.71.2b4e7e92 (30950) for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 02:53:56 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: <71.2b4e7e92.2b47ed14@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 02:53:56 EST Subject: Re: Jandek site / names To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2003 07:54:03.0320 (UTC) FILETIME=[72F2B380:01C2B3C6] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I have seen the surname "Yandek" (or maybe "Yandeck") before, for what it's worth... How about an h sound, like Jose? In a message dated 1/3/03 4:59:02 PM, bradleybee@yahoo.com writes: << Are we actually American-izing pronounciation of Jandek's name? Should it be pronounced with a soft "J" sound as "ZHAN-DECK" ??? "YAN-DEK" ??? Would any linguistics experts on the list care to comment? >> Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 8567 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 21:11:03 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 21:11:03 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:10:25 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h04LAP614340 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:10:25 -0600 Received: (qmail 8368 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 21:05:03 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 21:05:03 -0000 Received: from web12004.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.172.212]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:04:31 -0600 Message-ID: <20030104210430.49925.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.54.37.154] by web12004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:04:30 PST Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:04:30 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Cooley Subject: Re: Jandek site / names To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <71.2b4e7e92.2b47ed14@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2003 21:04:31.0423 (UTC) FILETIME=[E04CE4F0:01C2B434] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Is Byron Coley or Irwin Chusid listening? I'll bet they know the 'official' pronunciation. Maybe those guys doing the documentary do, too. > In a message dated 1/3/03 4:59:02 PM, > bradleybee@yahoo.com writes: > > << Are we actually American-izing pronounciation of > Jandek's name? Should it be pronounced with a soft > "J" sound as "ZHAN-DECK" ??? "YAN-DEK" ??? Would > any linguistics experts on the list care to comment? >> __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9831 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 16:34:57 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 16:34:57 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 10:32:16 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h05GWGL28431 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 10:32:16 -0600 Received: (qmail 5145 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 12:50:57 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 12:50:57 -0000 Received: from janus.hosting4u.net ([209.15.2.91]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 06:44:19 -0600 Received: (qmail 27040 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 12:44:19 -0000 Received: from leo.hosting4u.net (HELO waferbaby.com) (209.15.2.51) by mail-gate.hosting4u.net with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 12:44:19 -0000 Received: from john ([24.94.50.69]) by waferbaby.com ; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 06:44:17 -0600 From: "Benjamin Redder" To: "'Jason Cooley'" , Subject: RE: Jandek site / names Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 07:41:46 -0500 Message-ID: <008001c2b4b7$d50b5620$0d02a8c0@WorkGroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <20030104210430.49925.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2003 12:44:19.0819 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A674BB0:01C2B4B8] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I think the real pronunciation of his (or her) name is just all part of the mystery. We're not ever supposed to find out, that's why he (or she) picked a name that is so hard to pronounce. Benjamin. -----Original Message----- From: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu [mailto:owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Jason Cooley Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 4:05 PM To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek site / names Is Byron Coley or Irwin Chusid listening? I'll bet they know the 'official' pronunciation. Maybe those guys doing the documentary do, too. > In a message dated 1/3/03 4:59:02 PM, > bradleybee@yahoo.com writes: > > << Are we actually American-izing pronounciation of > Jandek's name? Should it be pronounced with a soft > "J" sound as "ZHAN-DECK" ??? "YAN-DEK" ??? Would > any linguistics experts on the list care to comment? >> __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15239 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 20:32:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 20:32:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:22:32 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h05KMVK29875 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:22:31 -0600 Received: (qmail 12445 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 18:17:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 18:17:56 -0000 Received: from logger.o2.pl ([212.126.20.38]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:11:56 -0600 Received: from rekin.go2.pl (rekin.go2.pl [212.126.20.3]) by logger.o2.pl (Mailer_v2.01) with ESMTP id 5D7B61C40F8; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:11:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by rekin.go2.pl (Mailer_v2.01, from userid 99) id F36C6BFB6; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:11:38 +0100 (CET) To: Benjamin Redder Cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: "LUTY" Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:11:38 Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:=20RE:=20Jandek=20site=20/=20names?= Reply-To: luty10@o2.pl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: first3.pl WebMailv2.02. Usluga Poczty Elektronicznej dla o2.pl X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Originator: 62.21.19.229 Message-Id: <20030105181138.F36C6BFB6@rekin.go2.pl> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2003 18:11:56.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[EEC20B80:01C2B4E5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk In Poland when you make a diminutive form of a male name,you always add an -ek in the end.We have some names which resemble jandek like: janek,jacek,jędrek so I always pronounce the name Jandek like "Yandek" because it sounds very polish and natural for me. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15240 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 20:32:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 20:32:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:22:36 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h05KMZQ29901 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:22:35 -0600 Received: (qmail 13938 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 19:30:59 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 19:30:59 -0000 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:29:59 -0600 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.bf.2c3a7c9a (4410) for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:29:43 -0500 (EST) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:29:43 EST Subject: A seller's market for Jandek? To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2003 19:29:59.0242 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5D482A0:01C2B4F0] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Yesterday, I was looking through the Jandek section at my local Newbury Comics (yes, they really have a Jandek section). I noticed that while most of the cds were priced to move at $7.99, the new one had an import sticker and was marked $13.99! Either this was a mistake or it contains some bonus remixes that I am not aware of. Hmm. Even stranger, bidding on the Jandek tribute cd has reached $15.75 (plus shipping!) on ebay, with 3 days left to go... Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16400 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 20:54:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 20:54:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:53:20 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h05KrKI30242 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:53:20 -0600 Received: (qmail 16011 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 20:35:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 20:35:02 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:34:12 -0600 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h05KYCe29990 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:34:12 -0600 Message-Id: <200301052034.h05KYCe29990@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Seth Tisue Subject: Site update X-Mailer: MH-E 7.0; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.2 Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 14:34:12 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2003 20:34:12.0842 (UTC) FILETIME=[CEC134A0:01C2B4F9] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk (I don't think any of this is new info if you've been reading the mailing list for a while, but for those joining us more recently:) Added link to interview (in "Indie Death" zine) with Paul Fehler and Chad Freidrichs about their forthcoming Jandek documentary (http://www.fehlerconsulting.com/paul/interview/interview.html). Added notice about WHRB's upcoming Jandek "orgy" (coming this Jan 20-22) to main page, with link to entry on press page with more info. Added scan of the city of Houston's official proclamation of November 5, 2002 as "Jandek day" (see http://tisue.net/jandek/press.html, first thing under "Also"). Added complete lyrics for "This Narrow Road" (thank you Joe Henry!). == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24261 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2003 02:31:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2003 02:31:13 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:23:36 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h062NZn31869 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:23:35 -0600 Received: (qmail 17901 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 21:42:04 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 21:42:04 -0000 Received: from wspf1.us4.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.146]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 15:41:03 -0600 Received: (qmail 26316 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 02:43:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by 205-158-62-146.outblaze.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2003 02:43:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 9289 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2003 21:40:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-11.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.80) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 21:40:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 12058 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Jan 2003 21:40:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20030105214032.12057.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-11.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 16:40:32 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 16:40:32 -0500 Subject: defense of the spoken word trilogy X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-11.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2003 21:41:03.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[25743FA0:01C2B503] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I've noticed that there's been a lot of criticism of the three spoken word albums since their release. Most seems look at them either as creepy or laughable. I find these releases to be amazing documents of a man's soul painfully laid out in front of him, and that they probably will serve as the climax to Jandek's career. Maybe some find it too personal, that it ruins the "mystique" of Jandek. This is an odd criticism, for I find that after listening to most music I am starved for anything remotely personal. Many describe these albums as if Jandek was rambling to himself on a park bench, but the poetry in This Narrow Road and Worthless Recluse is beatifully structured and holds some strikingly original imagery. So I guess I'm looking for others to back me up in my support of these works, or explain their grievances with them in greater detail. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 27044 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2003 04:17:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2003 04:17:15 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:11:50 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h064Bnr32421 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:11:49 -0600 Received: (qmail 25921 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2003 03:29:14 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2003 03:29:14 -0000 Received: from web41414.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.80]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:20:33 -0600 Message-ID: <20030106032033.80537.qmail@web41414.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.175.11] by web41414.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 19:20:33 PST Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:20:33 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: defense of the spoken word trilogy To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20030105214032.12057.qmail@mail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2003 03:20:33.0405 (UTC) FILETIME=[92B3E2D0:01C2B532] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Well, i have listened to bits of all the "trilogy" albums, and i have included "The Clothes" and "Since I Went Outside" on my two Jandek mix CDs, because i like the imagery, as you Joe mentioned. I also downloaded "Worthless Recluse", but i haven't had the guts to listen to it all the way through. As Seth said, they're hard to take even for us fans. I particularly like that quote from the site, "I haven't dared to listen to it again." It suggests fear for jandek and oneself, a driving idea behind the "Trilogy". I think his purpose in making those three records was to tell us a little about himself in a way that would be most advantageous to him. If anyone wants to know about Sterling Smith the man, don't try public records, try Listening to "Worthless Recluse" a couple times, or at least reading the lyrics to all three albums, now on the site. I have thought it would be humourous to sample pieces of it into a mock interview, me asking questions, and his ramblings as answers. There are enough details to make it seem real: Daniel Marks: so when did you start recording? Sterling Smith: Tell me all you got DM: no, i'm interviewing you SS: I've got to be doing something wrong DM: don't take it too hard... now when did you start recording? SS: Countless days in times of woe DM: i see, now what year would these times of woe be? SS: Oooooh, the years, and the time These memories that keep me going DM: Um... i see. what sort of memories? SS: I remember being alive In the cold northern cities I didn't need to think if I were interested Eight-thirty wasn't too late DM: Um...... and it would go something like that.... (note all the answers are real lyrics from the Trilogy) D.M. --- Joe Henry wrote: > I've noticed that there's been a lot of criticism of > the three spoken word albums since their release. > Most seems look at them either as creepy or > laughable. I find these releases to be amazing > documents of a man's soul painfully laid out in > front of him, and that they probably will serve as > the climax to Jandek's career. > Maybe some find it too personal, that it ruins the > "mystique" of Jandek. This is an odd criticism, for > I find that after listening to most music I am > starved for anything remotely personal. > Many describe these albums as if Jandek was rambling > to himself on a park bench, but the poetry in This > Narrow Road and Worthless Recluse is beatifully > structured and holds some strikingly original > imagery. > So I guess I'm looking for others to back me up in > my support of these works, or explain their > grievances with them in greater detail. > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at > Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > Meet Singles > http://corp.mail.com/lavalife __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 27268 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2003 20:04:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2003 20:04:40 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:04:16 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h06K4FP07678 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:04:15 -0600 Received: (qmail 25337 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2003 19:03:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Jan 2003 19:03:38 -0000 Received: from facstaff.wesleyan.edu ([129.133.1.61]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:57:43 -0600 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by facstaff.wesleyan.edu (8.11.2/8.10.2) id h06Ivgn13417 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:57:42 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: facstaff.wesleyan.edu: nobody set sender to jbreitling@wesleyan.edu using -f To: Subject: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers Message-ID: <1041879462.3e19d1a60673f@mail.wesleyan.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 13:57:42 -0500 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.0-pre13 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2003 18:57:43.0092 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E353740:01C2B5B5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This film sounds like it will be pretty authoritative, or at least as authoritative as possible, considering the difficulties of tracing the untraceable... http://www.junkmedia.org/?i=444 Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9713 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 01:53:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 01:53:52 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:50:29 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h071oSk11211 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:50:28 -0600 Received: (qmail 9591 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 01:48:36 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 01:48:36 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:48:06 -0600 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h071m5d11117 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:48:05 -0600 Message-Id: <200301070148.h071m5d11117@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Seth Tisue Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 06 Jan 2003 13:57:42 EST." <1041879462.3e19d1a60673f@mail.wesleyan.edu> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.0; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.2 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 19:48:05 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 01:48:06.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[D304DB70:01C2B5EE] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "jbreitling" == writes: jbreitling> http://www.junkmedia.org/?i=444 Interesting. I was especially interested to learn that Corwood suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving Ms. Vine's interview their 'stamp of approval.'" == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4405 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 15:25:28 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 15:25:28 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:22:51 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07FMoG15594 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:22:50 -0600 Received: (qmail 23678 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 09:19:37 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 09:19:37 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.247.154] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 03:19:14 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:19:14 -0800 Received: from 62.96.232.50 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:19:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.96.232.50] From: "Colin Meeder" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:19:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 09:19:14.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[D872C920:01C2B62D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >I was especially interested to learn that Corwood >suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't >be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving Ms. Vine's interview >their 'stamp of approval.'" Of course, it could also be interpreted as "Leave us alone. We've already said too much to Katy Vine. Talk to her." _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4912 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 15:28:30 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 15:28:30 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:28:26 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07FSPW15938 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:28:25 -0600 Received: (qmail 23678 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 09:19:37 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 09:19:37 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.247.154] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 03:19:14 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:19:14 -0800 Received: from 62.96.232.50 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:19:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.96.232.50] From: "Colin Meeder" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:19:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 09:19:14.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[D872C920:01C2B62D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >I was especially interested to learn that Corwood >suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't >be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving Ms. Vine's interview >their 'stamp of approval.'" Of course, it could also be interpreted as "Leave us alone. We've already said too much to Katy Vine. Talk to her." _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 17799 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 20:47:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 20:47:34 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:40:13 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07KeC118709 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:40:12 -0600 Received: (qmail 12504 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 18:25:07 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 18:25:07 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:16:18 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h07IGGlZ017632 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:16:16 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h07IGGO1017628; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:16:16 -0600 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:16:16 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: Colin Meeder cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 18:16:18.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[DFC36310:01C2B678] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Colin Meeder wrote: > >I was especially interested to learn that Corwood > >suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't > >be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving Ms. Vine's interview > >their 'stamp of approval.'" > > Of course, it could also be interpreted as "Leave us alone. We've already > said too much to Katy Vine. Talk to her." > Then again, if he came clean and said: "I'm a guy who makes albums in my spare bedroom with the occasional friend and I wasn't hoping to become some underground star or anything, just my contribution to music is what I was doing is all" would it satisfy any of us? Probably not. > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18836 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 21:04:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 21:04:34 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:04:12 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07L4Ca19026 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:04:12 -0600 Received: (qmail 18574 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 21:00:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 21:00:34 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.18.209] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:53:03 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:53:02 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "Paul Frederick" To: References: Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:21:46 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 20:53:02.0905 (UTC) FILETIME=[C526A290:01C2B68E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't >be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving Ms. Vine's interview >their 'stamp of approval.'" > Of course, it could also be interpreted as "Leave us alone. We've already > said too much to Katy Vine. Talk to her." Due respect, but we were talking about our interpretation. You can interpret it in any way you'd like, of course. But I assure you that if there had ever been even a glimmer.. even a hint of "Leave us alone" ... Corwood would've been left alone. Paul Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23121 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 23:13:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 23:13:29 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:12:42 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07NCfx20009 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:12:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 21686 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 22:24:47 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 22:24:47 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([216.33.237.69] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:23:26 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:23:25 -0800 Received: from 68.22.192.197 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 22:23:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.22.192.197] From: "C. A. Polk" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 22:23:25 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 22:23:25.0936 (UTC) FILETIME=[65877F00:01C2B69B] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >From: Todd Madson >Then again, if he came clean and said: "I'm a guy who makes albums in >my >spare bedroom with the occasional friend and I wasn't hoping to >become >some underground star or anything, just my contribution to >music is what I >was doing is all" would it satisfy any of us? >Probably not. PROBABLY not?????????? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23123 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 23:13:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 23:13:29 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:13:21 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07NDKA20036 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:13:20 -0600 Received: (qmail 21993 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 22:37:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 22:37:29 -0000 Received: from web41408.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.74]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:36:25 -0600 Message-ID: <20030107223621.3052.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.245] by web41408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 14:36:21 PST Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:36:21 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: interview with the Jandek documentary filmmakers To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 22:36:25.0921 (UTC) FILETIME=[366FC310:01C2B69D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Paul Frederick wrote: > >suggested they meet with Katy Vine, and as > Freidrichs says, "it wouldn't > >be very hard to interpret this as Corwood giving > Ms. Vine's interview > >their 'stamp of approval.'" > > > Of course, it could also be interpreted as "Leave > us alone. We've already > > said too much to Katy Vine. Talk to her." > > Due respect, but we were talking about our > interpretation. You can > interpret it in any way you'd like, of course. But > I assure you that if > there had ever been even a glimmer.. even a hint of > "Leave us alone" ... > Corwood would've been left alone. > > Paul i agree. My opinion is that when he first started releasing albums, Mr. Smith assumed naively that his music was as normal as anyone else's in the music world. He wasn't attempting some kind of modern experiment in musical descontructionism. He probobly wasn't trying to achieve "pentatonic refractive dissonance", just a unique tuning. or maybe he bought that guitar at a yard sale and never tuned it. either way, his unprecedented style and approach were not intended to be revolutionary or unique in the outsider sense, just music that people could enjoy. evidence of this abounds in his early period correspondence. How he calls John the drummer, "absolute", even though "to my knowledge, he had never played drums before." he didn't tell irwin chusid: "i was attempting to express the feeling of suburban isolation through a dissonant guitar, and constant, pounding, offbeat drums". He was just a guy trying to have fun recording music. that's the vibe i received when i first heard him, and one of the reasons i enjoy listening to the music. the point is, corwood and sterling smith did want to be known, perhaps not in the way of personal fame, but certainly in musical fame. why send free boxes of records to hudreds of radio stations if you wanted to be unknown? why converse with people like chusid and trubee at all? why write the least possible when responding to people's letters? because it ads to the legend. corwood is sparse in everything but music, of which there is an inordinate amount. and if there is one thing that he has made clear that he wants, it is appreciation based soley on the music. note, i'm not trying to slag anyone's opinions of the man and his method (or lack thereof). i'm just saying what i think. as condon says above, you can interpret it any way you like. i know i've peeved people in the past, but if i peeve you today, you'd better loosen up. D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23841 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 23:14:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 23:14:29 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:13:47 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h07NDkq20062 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:13:46 -0600 Received: (qmail 22466 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 22:53:33 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 22:53:33 -0000 Received: from web41401.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.67]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:52:11 -0600 Message-ID: <20030107225211.28765.qmail@web41401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.245] by web41401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 14:52:11 PST Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:52:11 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Documentary, Vine, and The Electric End To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 22:52:11.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A2AA470:01C2B69F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk that documentary is going to be awesome, i can't wait for it. from those two interviews, i think we can trust that the two filmmakers are going to do an excellent job. I I found it very interesting that corwood authenticated Katy Vine's now-true piece. imagine the thoughts that went through his head when she said to him "do you know anything about corwood industries?" i'd figure he first thought would be "oh no, they've found me! after all i'd done..." at that point, he could have simply said, "no, you've got the wrong fellow." but he took it with dignity, deciding that if they (the fans) wanted to know something about him this badly, he was obligated for their sake to accept one interview. it now stands as the only interview that we will ever have, and katy vine stands as the only person to have knowingly met Jandek. I'm perfectly fine with that conclusion, and i think most of us are. unrelated note: in the electric end, toward the beginning, you can hear someone (i think eddie) laughing to sterling, "what are you doing man? you're just yelling!" to which sterling replies "EEEEYAAAYAYAGHHA!" D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4057 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2003 06:18:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 8 Jan 2003 06:18:43 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:17:51 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h086Hpk21824 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:17:51 -0600 Received: (qmail 25206 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 23:47:30 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 23:47:30 -0000 Received: from spf1.us.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.139]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:44:10 -0600 Received: (qmail 28256 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 16:44:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (205.158.62.68) by spf1.us.outblaze.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2003 16:44:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 97986 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 23:44:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.50) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 23:44:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 42625 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Jan 2003 23:44:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20030107234408.42624.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1041983048-32093-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [68.41.100.16] by ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com with http for crushtacoes@mail.com; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 18:44:08 -0500 From: "Joe Henry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 18:44:08 -0500 Subject: humility of pain lyrics X-Originating-Ip: 68.41.100.16 X-Originating-Server: ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 23:44:10.0937 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD5FFA90:01C2B6A6] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1041983048-32093-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've transcribed the lyrics to the rest of The Humility of Pain. 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-0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h095r0g02435 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:53:00 -0600 Received: (qmail 14176 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 05:52:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 05:52:21 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:48:19 -0600 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h095mHR02352 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:48:17 -0600 Message-Id: <200301090548.h095mHR02352@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: "Colin Tudor": List newbie questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=100 Content-Description: forwarded message X-Mailer: MH-E 7.0; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.2 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:48:17 -0600 From: Seth Tisue X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 05:48:19.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[B671A000:01C2B7A2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Resent: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:47:50 -0600 Resent: "tisue " Return-Path: cod@eggoffice.intranets.com Delivery-Date: Wed Jan 08 00:36:48 2003 Return-Path: X-Sent: 8 Jan 2003 00:34:24 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 To: owner-jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: "Colin Tudor" Return-Path: cod@eggoffice.intranets.com Subject: List newbie questions X-Sent-From: cod@eggoffice.intranets.com Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:34:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20030107163424.20390.h010.c000.wm@mail.eggoffice.intranets.com.criticalpath.net> I'm a newbie to the list and i have a few questions 1 Is Sterling Smith Jandek? 2 Is Jandek Dead? if not why the phrase 'she has the only interview we will ever have? 3 can i still get stuff from Corwood? 4 How will the forthcoming documentary be distributed/shown? 5 What form is Chusids work meant to take? A book out in the future?out already? 6 Finally, why is the list archive so badly kept, with headers and full mime docs left in? finally i find his music quite uplifting. I really like the first lp. I enjoy difficult music, i use Merzbow to relax and Albert Ayler to take off. I can't agree that noone listens to full albums as put by DM - I listen to several at a time and enjoy them immensely. I have the following 0739 Ready for the house 0740 Six and Six 0741 Later On 0743 Living in a Moon So Blue 0750 telegraph melts 0753 Blue Corpse 0759 Lost Cause 0762 Glad to get away 0770 I threw you away Are there any real goodies i'm missing? Thanks a lot Colin Tudor Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14943 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 06:02:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 06:02:21 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:59:10 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h095x8O02495 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:59:08 -0600 Received: (qmail 14658 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 05:56:28 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 05:56:28 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:55:59 -0600 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h095tvQ02459 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:55:57 -0600 Message-Id: <200301090555.h095tvQ02459@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Questions From: Seth Tisue X-Mailer: MH-E 7.0; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.2 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:55:57 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 05:55:59.0343 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8A257F0:01C2B7A3] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Colin> 3 can i still get stuff from Corwood? Yes, the ordering info at http://tisue.net/jandek/ is accurate. (Actually I've heard there are 3 more reissues now, but I haven't seen them either in my mailbox or from any online retailers, so I'm holding off on adding them until someone has actually seen/held them.) Colin> 6 Finally, why is the list archive so badly kept, with headers Colin> and full mime docs left in? Laziness. I should run them through mhonarc or pipermail at some point. Colin> Are there any real goodies i'm missing? Yeah, you should get "Interstellar Discussion", "You Walk Alone", and "On the Way", == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30458 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 14:14:04 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 14:14:04 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:13:53 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h09EDqc04977 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:13:52 -0600 Received: (qmail 19899 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 08:22:22 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 08:22:22 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.18.41] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 02:22:22 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 00:22:21 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.191] From: "Paul Frederick" To: Subject: response to Jandek beginner questions Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 00:47:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2B778.B610FB80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 08:22:21.0805 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B63B1D0:01C2B7B8] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2B778.B610FB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>I'm a newbie to the list and i have a few questions I'll answer all of your questions as honestly as possible. >>1 Is Sterling Smith Jandek? Cutting right to the point, aren't we? Think less Alfred Hitchcock and more Erwin Schr=F6dinger...=20 In other words... short answer -- empty set, long answer approximates = "no" . >>2 (a)Is Jandek Dead? (b)if not why the phrase 'she has the only = interview we will ever have? (a) see answer for 1 (b) if you know of a Jandek interview, please share. >>3 can i still get stuff from Corwood? Of course! You can pick up reasonably priced titles from many sources, = including Forced Exposure... but the preferred method for getting the = CDs for most people is directly from Corwood. Write the PO Box for the = latest catalogue... a relatively recent example should be on Seth's = site. >>4 How will the forthcoming documentary be distributed/shown? Should be done by the end of April. Probably won't be shown until after = "festival season" in late August/September. Assuming that it will not = void eligibility, DVD/VHS copies will be sold to members of the list at = or near cost sometime in Spring '03. Exhibition/distribution should pace itself assuming a good showing at a = major festival. If enthusiasm at the festivals is less than optimal... = copies will be provided for those interested at a reasonable cost. A two minute theatrical trailer is now completed, and should be = somewhere on the internet within two weeks (looking for mirror sites, = btw... email jandocumentary@hotmail.com if you have some bandwidth to = share). >>5 What form is Chusids work meant to take? A book out in the = future?out already? Songs in the Key of Z, a book published a few years ago. He has several = other projects, but I'm almost sure that this is the one you're thinking = of. >>6 Finally, why is the list archive so badly kept, with headers and = full mime docs left in? Jandek is just no good at HTML... we've tried to coach him through it, = but it's just a lost cause. >>Are there any real goodies i'm missing? I'm sure there are... but I'd no sooner select Jandek songs for other = people than I would buy shoes for my girlfriend... in other words, it's = just too personal. The albums are cheap enough for most people to buy = in bulk (price break at 20 or 25). But if you'd like to sample a few = songs off of these albums to see if you like them first, then feel free = to download them on 'soulseek' (www.slsk.org). As always, the price is = reasonable enough to justify buying the records if you find that you = like them. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2B778.B610FB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>I'm a newbie to the list and i = have a few=20 questions

I'll answer all of your questions as honestly as=20 possible.

>>1 Is Sterling Smith Jandek?

Cutting = right to the=20 point, aren't we?

Think less Alfred Hitchcock and more Erwin=20 Schr=F6dinger...
 
In other words... short answer -- = empty set,=20 long answer approximates "no" .

>>2 (a)Is Jandek Dead? = (b)if not=20 why the phrase 'she has the only interview we will ever have?

(a) = see=20 answer for 1
(b) if you know of a Jandek interview, please=20 share.

>>3 can i still get stuff from Corwood?

Of=20 course!  You can pick up reasonably priced titles from many = sources,=20 including Forced Exposure... but the preferred method for getting the = CDs for=20 most people is directly from Corwood.  Write the PO Box for the = latest=20 catalogue... a relatively recent example should be on Seth's=20 site.

>>4 How will the forthcoming documentary be=20 distributed/shown?
 
Should be done by the end of = April.  Probably=20 won't be shown until after "festival season" in late = August/September. =20 Assuming that it will not void eligibility, DVD/VHS copies will be sold = to=20 members of the list at or near cost sometime in Spring=20 '03.

Exhibition/distribution should pace itself assuming a good = showing=20 at a major festival.  If enthusiasm at the festivals is less than=20 optimal... copies will be provided for those interested at a reasonable=20 cost.

A two minute theatrical trailer is now completed, and = should be=20 somewhere on the internet within two weeks (looking for mirror sites, = btw...=20 email jandocumentary@hotmail.com=  if=20 you have some bandwidth to share).

>>5 What form is Chusids = work=20 meant to take? A book out in the future?out already?

Songs in the = Key of=20 Z, a book published a few years ago.  He has several other = projects, but=20 I'm almost sure that this is the one you're thinking = of.

>>6=20 Finally, why is the list archive so badly kept, with headers and full = mime docs=20 left in?

Jandek is just no good at HTML... we've tried to coach = him=20 through it, but it's just a lost cause.

>>Are there any = real=20 goodies i'm missing?

I'm sure there are... but I'd no sooner = select=20 Jandek songs for other people than I would buy shoes for my = girlfriend... in=20 other words, it's just too personal.  The albums are cheap enough = for most=20 people to buy in bulk (price break at 20 or 25).  But if you'd like = to=20 sample a few songs off of these albums to see if you like them first, = then feel=20 free to download them on 'soulseek' (www.slsk.org).  As always, the = price is=20 reasonable enough to justify buying the records if you find that you = like=20 them.


------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2B778.B610FB80-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9225 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 19:16:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 19:16:12 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:14:38 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h09JEbb08190 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:14:37 -0600 Received: (qmail 8932 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 19:09:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 19:09:12 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:08:34 -0600 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h09J8RlZ025489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:08:27 -0600 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h09J8Nbe025482; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:08:27 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:08:22 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Madson To: Seth Tisue cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: "Colin Tudor": List newbie questions In-Reply-To: <200301090548.h095mHR02352@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> Message-ID: References: <200301090548.h095mHR02352@dylan.cs.northwestern.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 19:08:35.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[8273BB60:01C2B812] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Answers to Colin: (1) Nobody really knows if Sterling Smith is Jandek. It's obvious he's what makes Corwood go. And it's also pretty interesting to note that Corwood has other concerns beyond Jandek. As does Smith. (2) Not dead, just sleeping. Journalist Katy Vine tracked down one Sterling Smith and got rather cryptic answers. If he knows, he's not telling. He particularly asked her to pass on that he did not wish to ever be contacted by a journalist or a fan or anyone about Jandek ever again. Thus the 'only interview' reference. Analysis: Jandek, whoever he/she is has a lot to say musically yet values his privacy and avoids the traditional things you do as a musician: gigging out in bars, playing live, etcetera. The records are statements in themselves without the need for the ephemera of the "rock life" (and indeed, who could really say these are rock records? They are their own thing). I've heard multiple things about Jandek, I suspect most of it untrue: 1. It's Sterling Smith's solo music project, corporate day job by day, recording in the spare room by night. Truth? We will likely never know. 2. It's a rich guy bankrolling his retarded/disabled sons' music projects as an act of parental love. The work shows a little too much thought for the mindless ramblings of someone with a disabling mental condition. 3. Another theory I heard is that JANDEK isn't a PERSON, but rather JANDEK is a BANDNAME/PROJECTNAME. Since there are multiple people on some of the releases there is an aura of truth about it. This may be as close to the truth as we're likely to get. 4. Jandek supposedly means "Gift" in hungarian. I like this a lot. This being said, none of the above shouold be inferred to be true (or false). On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Seth Tisue wrote: [NON-Text Body part not included] -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18317 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 22:38:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 22:38:40 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:38:04 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h09Mc3111321 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:38:03 -0600 Received: (qmail 18153 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 22:35:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 22:35:40 -0000 Received: from c000.snv.cp.net ([209.228.32.66] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:34:28 -0600 Received: (cpmta 22545 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 14:34:27 -0800 Received: from 209.228.32.69 (HELO mail.eggoffice.intranets.com.criticalpath.net) by smtp.hosting1.intranets.com (209.228.32.66) with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 14:34:27 -0800 X-Sent: 9 Jan 2003 22:34:27 GMT Received: from [213.78.92.64] by mail.eggoffice.intranets.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:34:25 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: "Colin Tudor" Subject: Thanks to list X-Sent-From: cod@eggoffice.intranets.com Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:34:25 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: Web Mail 5.1.2-0_sol28 Message-Id: <20030109143426.612.h005.c000.wm@mail.eggoffice.intranets.com.criticalpath.net> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 22:34:28.0203 (UTC) FILETIME=[4518EBB0:01C2B82F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Dear All thanks for the info, I'm beginning to feel like I'm getting up to speed. A few more thoughts Anyone considered the Syd Barrett similarities? particlarly Syd's late period. Very Oar which i have heard compared to Jandek. Seth feels it is Jandek singing on Blue Corpse but I really feel that there are two male vocalists on that album. I'm a pro record producer and spend a lot of time listening intently to stuff and there are many differences in tone and inflection between the guy on Blue Corpse and most of the others. Unless Nancy's departure REALLY hit him hard and sent him to the bottle AND singing lessons ( Although he does sound fairly drunk on 'DOWN at the Ballpark'). The Blue Corpse vocalist natural pitching is a few tones down from the guy on ready for the house and in fact quite close to Skip Spence. Maybe its Skip doing Jandek !. On the other hand I could be completely wrong thats the joy of speculation. Maybe Sterling Smith lent Jandek out for an LP! I would really like an idea of where to go next with my collection. If I send to Corwood for bulk CD's can I select the ones i'd like (given they are in print of course)? I'll post my collection again so y'all can advise me where to go next. 0739 Ready for the house 0740 Six and Six 0741 Later On 0743 Living in a Moon So Blue 0750 telegraph melts 0753 Blue Corpse 0759 Lost Cause 0762 Glad to get away 0770 I threw you away and White Box Requiem Thanks again from a rambling newbie. Colin Tudor Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18316 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 22:38:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 22:38:40 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:37:43 -0600 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h09MbfU11295 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:37:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 18151 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 22:35:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 22:35:40 -0000 Received: from web41403.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.69]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:29:55 -0600 Message-ID: <20030109222954.55872.qmail@web41403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.160.176.138] by web41403.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:29:54 PST Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 14:29:54 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: "Colin Tudor": List newbie questions To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 22:29:55.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[A29BEF90:01C2B82E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk welcome to the list, colin. Here's my answers to your first two questions. (You'll come to find i'm one of the more pointedly opinionated people on the list)> >>>1 Is Sterling Smith Jandek? absolutely. it is painfully obvious that there is one man behind the project, the guy who signs the customs sheets, who does all the outside communications, whose name is on the us patent registry. That man is Sterling Smith. Everyone who has spoke to him on the phone says he sounds like jandek. and if he isn't jandek, he should get a better job. 2 Is Jandek Dead? if not why the phrase 'she has the only interview we will ever have? to our knowledge, he is alive and in his mid to late forties. given his last words in katy vine's article, it is safe to assume he will never accept an interview again. however, there is an entertaining theory that all of the stuff was recorded in the 60's by a vietnam draftee and is being published by a family member, jandek having died in the war. it's highly improbable, though. and because no one asked, here are my top ten Corwood albums. 10)The Beginning (if only for the title track) 9) Ready for the House 8) Graven Image 7) Chair Beside a Window 6) Glad to Get Away 5) Follow Your Footsteps 4) On the Way 3) Interstellar Discussion 2) Blue Corpse 1) You Walk Alone of course, i haven't heard them all. Honorable mentions: Lost Cause, Nine-Thirty, and Later On. i found the perfect place to start my "imagined biography": Point Judith. "Ghost Town By the Sea" says a lot about this place, which Jandek may have gone to with his family in the summer. My book begins with him returning to Point Judith in the late 80's and noting its run down, "faded glory", which he begins to see as a metaphore for his own life. the view from the silent beach prompts his to write the aformentioned song. as for other parts, i've got him living in Ohio for most of his youth, and his relationship with nancy. at some point, he leaves for texas because a friend (eddie)prompts him to come. he starts corwood soon after. nancy is tired of their long-distance relationship and ditches him. more to come when i work it out better. D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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