RE: Jandek as tax dodge theory

Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3389 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Sep 2002 22:34:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2806 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2002 22:08:22 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Sep 2002 22:08:22 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.104] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 1 Sep 2002 17:04:37 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:04:36 -0700 Received: from 213.105.181.240 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 01 Sep 2002 22:04:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.181.240] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: minutae of Jandek remastering inconsequentials Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 22:04:36 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2002 22:04:36.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F81E770:01C25203] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >some software for reducing background hiss can, if used clumsily, >produce >a gurgling or bubbling sound on intros and outros and other >quiet >sections. Yeah, it seems to be at the start of tracks that begin very quietly. I think it works in the context though, particularly on "A Dozen Drops"... presumably Jandek is happy with the effect whether it's his doing or not. Another happy accident of the no-fi aesthetic! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15109 invoked by uid 1029); 4 Sep 2002 13:35:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 10289 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2002 10:07:59 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 10:07:59 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.19.141] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 4 Sep 2002 05:01:30 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 03:01:30 -0700 Received: from 4.60.185.106 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:01:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.106] From: "Paul Frederick" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: talked Jandek with Dr. Demento Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 05:01:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2002 10:01:30.0606 (UTC) FILETIME=[0AB070E0:01C253FA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk

Hey all,

I just got done interviewing Dr. Demento about Jandek.

Wonderful man, well versed in all aspects of music... I guess I had always thought of him as a "novelty-song" guy. But he blew me away with one of the most well-rounded, diverse, and comprehensive understandings of American music that I have ever been exposed to. We talked mostly Jandek and early 20th century blues.

Highlights:

Dr. Demento told us that he got his first Jandek (well... "units") album in 1981, putting him among the "elite few" to get unsolicited copies before 1983-84. This raises many important questions. I'd read a lot into that if I hadn't stopped searching for answers.

He also offered a new (if slightly implausible) theory. "Jandek as Tax-Dodge" ... He pointed out that he has hundreds of records in his collection that were created to serve as a money-pit to siphon off taxes from more profitable ventures. I'm n! ot supporting this idea... I think it'd break my heart if it were true... but it's still a new vantage point, and interesting to think about.

He talked about receiving "Ready for the House" and listening to it immediately, then writing to Corwood to get biographical information about the artist to use on the show (It's important to remember the time period... Jandek wasn't "mysterious recluse" at that time... he had one [admittedly strange] album, so the Doctor had a reasonable assumption that his request would be met). Needless to say, the request for information was not met, or mentioned again in any future correspondence. (But, he continued to receive the records for quite some time).

There were so many other interesting nuggets of information, but they escape me.

regards,
Paul

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Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15281 invoked by uid 1029); 4 Sep 2002 13:35:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 10292 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2002 10:08:00 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 10:08:00 -0000 Received: from kogut.o2.pl ([212.126.20.61]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 4 Sep 2002 05:03:59 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer (c19-133.icpnet.pl [62.21.19.133]) by kogut.o2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP id 027BC2CA9A5 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:43:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001001c253fa$e9e7b0c0$8513153e@oemcomputer> From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Kuba_G=F3rny?= To: "a propo Jandka" Subject: the whole "ble corpse"album on kazaA Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:07:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2540B.AC5C51A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2002 10:04:00.0298 (UTC) FILETIME=[63E9A0A0:01C253FA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2540B.AC5C51A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can download all the songs from "blue corpse"from kazaA.Does anybody = know about any other sources I could download Jandek mp3's from? ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2540B.AC5C51A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You can download all the songs = from "blue=20 corpse"from kazaA.Does anybody know about any other sources I could = download=20 Jandek mp3's from?

------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2540B.AC5C51A0-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16601 invoked by uid 1029); 4 Sep 2002 13:55:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 16497 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2002 13:53:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 13:53:10 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:44:57 -0500 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g84DikJC019606 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:44:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g84DikLo019602; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:44:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:44:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Madson To: Paul Frederick cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: talked Jandek with Dr. Demento In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2002 13:44:59.0419 (UTC) FILETIME=[42F6EEB0:01C25419] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Paul Frederick wrote: > Hey all, > > I just got done interviewing Dr. Demento about Jandek. > Now THAT's interesting. Our local FM affiliate stopped carrying his show years ago so I'd wondered if there was any Jandek-Demento connections. > Wonderful man, well versed in all aspects of music... I guess I had > always thought of him as a "novelty-song" guy. But he blew me away with > one of the most well-rounded, diverse, and comprehensive understandings > of American music that I have ever been exposed to. We talked mostly > Jandek and early 20th century blues. > > Highlights: > > Dr. Demento told us that he got his first Jandek (well... "units") album > in 1981, putting him among the "elite few" to get unsolicited copies > before 1983-84. This raises many important questions. I'd read a lot > into that if I hadn't stopped searching for answers. > Extremely interesting since Dr. Demento would air a lot of things that most others would not. Exposure seems to be one modus operandi that Jandek wants as well as "needing to move these." > He also offered a new (if slightly implausible) theory. "Jandek as > Tax-Dodge" ... He pointed out that he has hundreds of records in his > collection that were created to serve as a money-pit to siphon off taxes > from more profitable ventures. I'm n! ot supporting this idea... I think > it'd break my heart if it were true... but it's still a new vantage > point, and interesting to think about. > I don't buy this. The instrumentation and recording gear for the entire Jandek ouvre couldn't have cost more than $100 in its entirety. The sound is of two track stereo with no noise reduction. The guitar is obviously an inexpensive acoustic and the electric stuff may very well be the same guitar with a pickup added. The drum kit looks like one of those kiddie affairs you see in the Sears gift book catalog around christmas. It's extremely low budget DIY stuff. I could see this view if the stuff was done on more expensive gear but not the way it is. Another thought might be that the expense is actually having cover art printed up and the stuff transferred to disc. Anyone can do this but there's an expense especially when done in quantity. > He talked about receiving "Ready for the House" and listening to it > immediately, then writing to Corwood to get biographical information > about the artist to use on the show (It's important to remember the time > period... Jandek wasn't "mysterious recluse" at that time... he had one > [admittedly strange] album, so the Doctor had a reasonable assumption > that his request would be met). Needless to say, the request for > information was not met, or mentioned again in any future > correspondence. (But, he continued to receive the records for quite some > time). > So my question would be: what DID get sent back to him beyond the records? It's almost as if the record is the statement he wishes to make and that's it. > There were so many other interesting nuggets of information, but they > escape me. > If you can remember any more that would be great. -t > regards, > Paul > > end > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click ! Here > > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 32408 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Sep 2002 14:20:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 21718 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2002 08:18:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 08:18:38 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.19.107] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 5 Sep 2002 03:13:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 01:13:07 -0700 Received: from 4.60.185.106 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 08:13:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.106] From: "Paul Frederick" To: luty10@o2.pl Cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: the whole "ble corpse"album on kazaA Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 03:13:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 08:13:07.0977 (UTC) FILETIME=[113BBF90:01C254B4] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk

>You can download all the songs from "blue corpse"from kazaA.Does anybody know about >any other sources I could download Jandek mp3's from?

I have most Jandek albums available on "soulseek" ... ( http://www.slsk.org/ ).

If you can afford/have access to the albums, I encourage you to buy them (forced exposure, local record shop or direct from Corwood).

After logging on to Soulseek, just search for "jandek."

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Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 375 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Sep 2002 14:21:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 22192 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2002 08:41:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 08:41:38 -0000 Received: from rekin.go2.pl ([212.126.20.27] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 5 Sep 2002 03:35:55 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer (c16-105.icpnet.pl [62.21.16.105]) by rekin.go2.pl (Mailer_v2.01) with SMTP id E79D96EE8B for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:35:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000b01c254b7$c9b92e60$6910153e@oemcomputer> From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Kuba_G=F3rny?= To: "a propo Jandka" Subject: Thanks everybody!Soulseek rules ;) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:39:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C254C8.8CB41640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 08:35:55.0694 (UTC) FILETIME=[4074CCE0:01C254B7] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C254C8.8CB41640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul Fredrick,Thank you so much!I just downloaded soulseek and am = waiting for Jandek albums to download comlpetely!Thank you again KG. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C254C8.8CB41640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Paul Fredrick,Thank you so much!I = just=20 downloaded soulseek and am waiting for Jandek albums to download=20 comlpetely!Thank you again

KG.

------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C254C8.8CB41640-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 976 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Sep 2002 14:24:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 31250 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2002 13:47:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 13:47:54 -0000 Received: from mail02.ljextra.com ([208.3.165.71] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:47:47 -0500 Received: by ALM-MAIL-1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:47:46 -0400 Message-ID: <988631CF8A1FD511B5B40008C7F36CCD026D9CED@ALM-MAIL-1> From: Tim Kelly To: 'Paul Frederick' , jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: RE: talked Jandek with Dr. Demento Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:47:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C254E2.CD62EDF0" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 13:47:47.0148 (UTC) FILETIME=[D15A18C0:01C254E2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C254E2.CD62EDF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am still looking for interviews with people who drink Surge. Please help ASAP. Send VHS copies of interviews et al to: Tim Kelly 105 Madison Ave 6th Floor New York, NY 10016 Thank you! http://karks.com/surge/index.html -----Original Message----- From: Paul Frederick [mailto:sandman_142@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:01 AM To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: talked Jandek with Dr. Demento Hey all, I just got done interviewing Dr. Demento about Jandek. Wonderful man, well versed in all aspects of music... I guess I had always thought of him as a "novelty-song" guy. But he blew me away with one of the most well-rounded, diverse, and comprehensive understandings of American music that I have ever been exposed to. We talked mostly Jandek and early 20th century blues. Highlights: Dr. Demento told us that he got his first Jandek (well... "units") album in 1981, putting him among the "elite few" to get unsolicited copies before 1983-84. This raises many important questions. I'd read a lot into that if I hadn't stopped searching for answers. He also offered a new (if slightly implausible) theory. "Jandek as Tax-Dodge" ... He pointed out that he has hundreds of records in his collection that were created to serve as a money-pit to siphon off taxes from more profitable ventures. I'm! n! ot supporting this idea... I think it'd break my heart if it were true... but it's still a new vantage point, and interesting to think about. He talked about receiving "Ready for the House" and listening to it immediately, then writing to Corwood to get biographical information about the artist to use on the show (It's important to remember the time period... Jandek wasn't "mysterious recluse" at that time... he had one [admittedly strange] album, so the Doctor had a reasonable assumption that his request would be met). Needless to say, the request for information was not met, or mentioned again in any future correspondence. (But, he continued to receive the records for quite some time). There were so many other interesting nuggets of information, but they escape me. regards, Paul end _____ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Clic! k ! Here ------_=_NextPart_001_01C254E2.CD62EDF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

I am still looking for interviews with people who drink Surge. Please help ASAP.

Send VHS copies of interviews et al to:
Tim Kelly

105 Madison Ave 6th Floor

New York, NY 10016

Thank you!

http://karks.com/surge/index.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Frederick [mailto:sandman_142@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:01 AM
To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
Subject: talked Jandek with Dr. Demento

Hey all,

I just got done interviewing Dr. Demento about Jandek.

Wonderful man, well versed in all aspects of music... I guess I had always thought of him as a "novelty-song" guy. But he blew me away with one of the most well-rounded, diverse, and comprehensive understandings of American music that I have ever been exposed to. We talked mostly Jandek and early 20th century blues.

Highlights:

Dr. Demento told us that he got his first Jandek (well... "units") album in 1981, putting him among the "elite few" to get unsolicited copies before 1983-84. This raises many important questions. I'd read a lot into that if I hadn't stopped searching for answers.

He also offered a new (if slightly implausible) theory. "Jandek as Tax-Dodge" ... He pointed out that he has hundreds of records in his collection that were created to serve as a money-pit to siphon off taxes from more profitable ventures. I'm! n! ot supporting this idea... I think it'd break my heart if it were true... but it's still a new vantage point, and interesting to think about.

He talked about receiving "Ready for the House" and listening to it immediately, then writing to Corwood to get biographical information about the artist to use on the show (It's important to remember the time period... Jandek wasn't "mysterious recluse" at that time... he had one [admittedly strange] album, so the Doctor had a reasonable assumption that his request would be met). Needless to say, the request for information was not met, or mentioned again in any future correspondence. (But, he continued to receive the records for quite some time).

There were so many other interesting nuggets of information, but they escape me.

regards,
Paul

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>Texas corporation records and my own research into public and non-public
>records shows that Corwood is also
>affiliated with several other nearby business entities. Dr. Demento may not
>be far off the mark.

When I (provisionally) dismissed this theory, it wasn't because I was unaware of Corwood's other business interests... it's because, well, it just doesn't fit.

Dr. Demento talked about the "qualities" shared by his "tax-dodge" record collection. He cited high (or reasonably high) production values (remember... if you're looking for a money pit, one professionally produced album every three years will siphon off more money than three albums recorded on four-track in the same time period). Also, the Doctor talked about a strong desire to make the albums look as though the producer had every intent on selling them. In other words, the IRS is suspicious of business ventures with product that is less than mainstream (! you can't reasonably quote a large loss on something with a very narrow appeal).

The other records he talked to us about had a very high production value (and, according to the Doctor, a very low level of creativity or innovation). They were slick-looking and imitated the design and sound of the era in which they were produced.

I'm not saying that I know for a fact that this can't be the case... but I've thought about it quite a bit. Using a combination of fact and informed intuition, I'd rate the odds of Jandek recordings having the primary function of "tax dodge" as 'very low.'

Very fun to ruminate about, however...

Paul

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Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22980 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Sep 2002 22:22:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 21706 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2002 21:58:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 21:58:17 -0000 Received: from web40601.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.78.138]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:57:40 -0500 Message-ID: <20020905215740.31796.qmail@web40601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.106.94.156] by web40601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:57:40 PDT Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:57:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Brooker Subject: Modern Dances Cover To: JANDEK@CS.NORTHWESTERN.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 21:57:40.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[414E2100:01C25527] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Hello, Not sure if this has already been posted re the Modern Dances cover photo. But when I glanced at it a few moments ago, it appeared to have that little fence from Telegraph Melts.....Maybe MD is also from the same photo shoot as TM and Blue Corpse? Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23655 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Sep 2002 22:30:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 22566 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2002 22:20:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 22:20:17 -0000 Received: from web14809.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.230]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:19:45 -0500 Message-ID: <20020905221944.67062.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.149.185.57] by web14809.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:19:44 PDT Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:19:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: oh, c'mon, you all knew it was true To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 22:19:46.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[573D0780:01C2552A] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk well, i figured that our man had some kind of "other reason" for wasting all his money on this crazy album project. it is so easy to believe, because why else would he be so anonymous? he doesn't want the feds to find out who he is. he's not a loner, a freak, or some kind of wierdo, as katy vine found out. he's just a really clever entreprenuer. remember when irwin chusid asked him what other projects he had going and he woudn't mention? now we know why he wouldn't; he didn't want anyone to connect them. he always liked recording music, and so he thought to himself, hey, there's got to be a better way to profit from this gig. thus, corwood industries, not corwood records. imagine for a moment, ther must be corwood books, corwood burger joints, corwood plumbing and electrician services, the list goes on. the question is, does this shoot down the authenticity of the recordings, knowing that he's not a real artist, just some goon fooling and bunch of cooler-than-thou fools (us) into buying his fake outsider crap, and dodging taxes in the meantime? Yeah, i'd say it does, to some extent, but now we know one plausible reason as to his anonymity, and one that finally fits with katy vine's description. i never thought that sterling smith was a genius before, but now i'm sure of it. he got us all fooled with his joke. but hey, don't stop listening to him, just listen to him with a little more irony, like i always have. shout out to doctor demento, for bringing this to light. funny thing though, he never cast jandek in a flattering light. he was included as part of a segment called "audio torture chamber." rain's pouring down in madison, D.M. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 828 invoked by uid 1029); 6 Sep 2002 04:17:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 25813 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2002 23:38:22 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 23:38:22 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.19.35] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:38:14 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:38:13 -0700 Received: from 4.60.185.106 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:38:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.106] From: "Paul Frederick" To: alfredggnome@yahoo.com, jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: oh, c'mon, you all knew it was true Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 18:38:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 23:38:13.0618 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D2C6D20:01C25535] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk

Clarifications and observations,

>project. it is so easy to believe, because why else

>would he be so anonymous? he doesn't want the feds to

>find out who he is.

If it were a tax dodge... anonymity would be hurting Corwood, not helping them.

>gig. thus, corwood industries, not corwood records.

Corwood's only traceable product has been records... and as far as I know, it isn't a "parent" (or even tangentially related) to any other business.

>imagine for a moment, ther must be corwood books,

>corwood burger joints, corwood plumbing and

>electrician services, the list goes on.

(joke or no joke... that's some pretty funny imagery... I hope I see these someday)

>the question is, does this shoot down the authenticity

>of the recordings, knowing that he's not a real

>artist, just some goon fooling and bunch of

>cooler-than-thou fools (us) into buying his fake

>outsider crap, and dodging taxes in the meantime?

I don't think it would, even if it were true (which, for the record, I do not). You can't fake the content of the records. If the records stand on their own (which I think they do), then Jandek can stand as an artist.

>Yeah, i'd say it does, to some extent, but now we know

>one plausible reason as to his anonymity, and one that

>finally fits with katy vine's description.

We've talked with Katy, and while we think she's an amazing writer, and an amazingly nice person. I think that her description of Jandek is only the tip of the iceberg.... and... as stated before. This is one enterprise where the anonymity would hurt rather than help.

>thought that jandek was a genius before, but

>now i'm sure of it. he got us all fooled with his

>joke. but hey, don't stop listening to him, just

>listen to him with a little more irony, like i always

>have.

The last statement is incredibly true. Irony is a huge part of my approach to listening to Jandek.

regards,
Paul

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Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19669 invoked by uid 1029); 9 Sep 2002 14:54:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 19354 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2002 14:46:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 14:46:09 -0000 Received: from mail02.ljextra.com ([208.3.165.71] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:45:14 -0500 Received: by ALM-MAIL-1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:45:13 -0400 Message-ID: <988631CF8A1FD511B5B40008C7F36CCD026D9D03@ALM-MAIL-1> From: Tim Kelly To: "'Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com'" , jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: RE: Jandek as tax dodge theory Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:45:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2580F.7EB5E9C0" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2002 14:45:14.0220 (UTC) FILETIME=[819E8AC0:01C2580F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2580F.7EB5E9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I never wrote that! However, I will write that Mello Yello is violently inferior to Surge, = and Wink tastes like orange juice-flavored cat detergent. Sincerely, Tim Kelly P.S. Please send Surge. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com > [mailto:Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:34 PM > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > Subject: Jandek as tax dodge theory >=20 >=20 >=20 > Tim Kelly wrote: >=20 > Dr. Demento told us that he got his first Jandek (well...=20 > "units") album > in 1981, putting him among the "elite few" to get unsolicited copies > before 1983-84.=A0 This raises many important questions.=A0 I'd=20 > read a lot > into that if I hadn't stopped searching for answers. >=20 > He also offered a new (if slightly implausible) theory.=A0 "Jandek = as > Tax-Dodge" ...=A0 He pointed out that he has hundreds of records in = his > collection that were created to serve as a money-pit to=20 > siphon off taxes > from more profitable ventures.=A0 I'm! n! ot supporting this=20 > idea... I think > it'd break my heart if it were true... but it's still a new=20 > vantage point, > and interesting to think about. >=20 > --------------------- >=20 > Texas corporation records and my own research into public and=20 > non-public > records shows that the Sterling R. Smith affiliated with=20 > Corwood is also > affiliated with several other nearby business entities. Dr.=20 > Demento may not > be far off the mark. >=20 > To me, it just makes the Jandek story all that much cooler. I=20 > think that > funding yr art by screwing The Man is pretty clever. >=20 >=20 >=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2580F.7EB5E9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Jandek as tax dodge theory

I never wrote that!
However, I will write that Mello Yello is violently = inferior to Surge, and Wink tastes like orange juice-flavored cat = detergent.

Sincerely,
Tim Kelly
P.S. Please send Surge.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com
> [mailto:Chris.Grier@heraldt= ribune.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:34 = PM
> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
> Subject: Jandek as tax dodge theory
>
>
>
> Tim Kelly wrote:
>
> Dr. Demento told us that he got his first = Jandek (well...
> "units") album
> in 1981, putting him among the = "elite few" to get unsolicited copies
> before 1983-84.=A0 This raises many = important questions.=A0 I'd
> read a lot
> into that if I hadn't stopped searching = for answers.
>
> He also offered a new (if slightly = implausible) theory.=A0 "Jandek as
> Tax-Dodge" ...=A0 He pointed out = that he has hundreds of records in his
> collection that were created to serve as = a money-pit to
> siphon off taxes
> from more profitable ventures.=A0 I'm! n! = ot supporting this
> idea... I think
> it'd break my heart if it were true... = but it's still a new
> vantage point,
> and interesting to think about.
>
> ---------------------
>
> Texas corporation records and my own research = into public and
> non-public
> records shows that the Sterling R. Smith = affiliated with
> Corwood is also
> affiliated with several other nearby business = entities. Dr.
> Demento may not
> be far off the mark.
>
> To me, it just makes the Jandek story all that = much cooler. I
> think that
> funding yr art by screwing The Man is pretty = clever.
>
>
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2580F.7EB5E9C0-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 11854 invoked by uid 1029); 10 Sep 2002 18:17:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 11112 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 18:00:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 18:00:45 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.21.47] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:59:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:59:52 -0700 Received: from 213.123.18.12 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:59:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.123.18.12] From: "Mark Lee Forshaw" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Damaged Goods Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:59:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2002 17:59:52.0604 (UTC) FILETIME=[DCE445C0:01C258F3] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk If I recall there has been some speculation/suggestion on the list that "Glad to Get Away" might be out of print and that "White Box Requiem" might only be available in water-damaged form. Anyway, I asked Corwood about this when I posted my last order and this was their uncharacteristically direct response (very business like): "0763 white box requiem/0762 glad to get away. Some of these ARE water damaged, which we don't sell, but give away to review persons or radio stations because they play ok - the printing is damaged. However, we have normal undamaged CD's which we do sell and these are not damaged in anyway." So there we have it. Personally I am very pleased that "Glad to Get Away" is still available for folks to buy (that is, not off ebay or from Forced Exposure) as I think it is among the best three or four of Jandek's records. Mark _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24042 invoked by uid 1029); 10 Sep 2002 22:53:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 23495 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 22:39:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 22:39:10 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.93] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:31:41 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:31:41 -0700 Received: from 213.105.181.240 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:31:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.181.240] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: dodge smodge Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:31:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2002 22:31:41.0048 (UTC) FILETIME=[D57B5780:01C25919] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I don't buy this tax dodge thing for a couple of reasons. For a start I don't reckon anybody would do 30 albums featuring dense lyrics and bizarre guitar tunings, ie stuff that takes a bit of work, unless they're really compelled to. It'd be much easier to do loads of "Baby I Love You"-style stuff otherwise. Also, on the 20 box I got from Corwood, the custom slip had "Gift" marked rather than "merchandise"... I take it that this means profits(!) aren't being declared. Then there's the previously mentioned anonymity thing. Has anybody had to wait a helluva long time for a Corwood order recently? Unless something got lost in the mail. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25109 invoked by uid 1029); 10 Sep 2002 23:08:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 24772 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 23:01:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 23:01:09 -0000 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:55:27 -0500 Received: from AKelly1971@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id i.191.cf28e9d (17228); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:55:19 -0400 (EDT) From: AKelly1971@aol.com Message-ID: <191.cf28e9d.2aafd257@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:55:19 EDT Subject: Re: dodge smodge To: paulgcondon@hotmail.com, jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2002 22:55:27.0617 (UTC) FILETIME=[27C87F10:01C2591D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Unless I misremember, an enterprise can be deducted as a tax write-off for three years before it has to make a profit... I think Jandek has long exceeded that term. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 20333 invoked by uid 1029); 11 Sep 2002 14:06:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 15877 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2002 11:33:03 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 11 Sep 2002 11:33:03 -0000 Received: from donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu ([141.211.2.163]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 06:24:08 -0500 Received: from vanguard.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (vanguard.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.216]) by donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id HAA19630; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sdthorn@localhost) by vanguard.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.9.1a/5.1-client) with ESMTP id HAA15256; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:24:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott D Thorn X-X-Sender: sdthorn@vanguard.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: Paul Condon cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: dodge smodge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2002 11:24:08.0173 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE8561D0:01C25985] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk > Has anybody had to wait a helluva long time for a Corwood order recently? > Unless something got lost in the mail. I received my box o'20 about a month ago. there was only about a week and a half wait between sending out the order and receiving the box. Scott Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9896 invoked by uid 1029); 11 Sep 2002 21:39:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 9741 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2002 21:37:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 11 Sep 2002 21:37:12 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.19.51] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:36:21 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:36:20 -0700 Received: from 198.185.18.207 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:36:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.185.18.207] From: "kristi wheeler" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: dodge smodge Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:36:20 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2002 21:36:20.0646 (UTC) FILETIME=[44C7F460:01C259DB] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk hey everyone. i am jandek. the jig is up. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3118 invoked by uid 1029); 12 Sep 2002 23:42:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20020912234241.3117.qmail@cs.northwestern.edu> Received: (qmail 2428 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002 23:20:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 23:20:03 -0000 Subject: Jandek picks up the guitar again To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:20:03 -0500 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk New CD, courtesy Corwood Industries. It's called I Threw You Away. Song titles: "Blues Turned Black", "It Seems Forever", "I Threw You Away", "Frozen Beauty", "The World Stops". Five long tracks, 49 minutes total, shortest track 7:39. Voice and acoustic guitar, plus some harmonica. It sounds like a cross between Six and Six and Blue Corpse -- it reminds me more of those two albums than of the more recent solo acoustic discs. The cover photo is of a deserted European residential city street on an overcast day. There's a street sign I can't quite read. There are stoplights facing in both directions but the cars are parked on the left side of the street, so it must be England. There's a street sign I can't quite read. There's a large building at the end of the street which looks pretty identifiable if someone knows the area. == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net "I'm not writing a book on the science of irony." - Marcel Duchamp Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 11253 invoked by uid 1029); 14 Sep 2002 14:50:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 10890 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2002 14:40:32 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 14 Sep 2002 14:40:32 -0000 Received: from web14809.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.230]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 14 Sep 2002 09:34:54 -0500 Message-ID: <20020914143454.48727.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.149.188.228] by web14809.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 07:34:54 PDT Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 07:34:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Jandek picks up the guitar again To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <20020912234241.3117.qmail@cs.northwestern.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2002 14:34:54.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[E47BE940:01C25BFB] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- Seth Tisue wrote: > > New CD, courtesy Corwood Industries. It's called I > Threw You Away. > Song titles: "Blues Turned Black", "It Seems > Forever", "I Threw You > Away", "Frozen Beauty", "The World Stops". Five > long tracks, 49 > minutes total, shortest track 7:39. Voice and > acoustic guitar, plus > some harmonica. It sounds like a cross between Six > and Six and Blue > Corpse -- it reminds me more of those two albums > than of the more > recent solo acoustic discs. > > The cover photo is of a deserted European > residential city street on > an overcast day. There's a street sign I can't > quite read. There are > stoplights facing in both directions but the cars > are parked on the > left side of the street, so it must be England. > There's a street sign > I can't quite read. There's a large building at the > end of the street > which looks pretty identifiable if someone knows the > area. > very interesting.... I wonder if the songs are about his apparent trip to europe? Maybe he went to england because he found out he had at least one or two fans there, heh heh. A cross between six and six and blue corpse? i can't even imagine that. Six and six is one of his most drab albums, and blue corpse is one of his best. The first features his whacky tunings with no apparent chords, and the second features a more talented guitarist using standard tunings and more accesible music all around. soulseek, wow, that is a godsent. There is a user there with every available Corwood CD up on 192 Kb/s Mp3. I have downloaded Blue Corpse, You Walk Alone, Interstellar Discussion, and Later On. After listening to them in their entirety, i am covinced that the first two are his best works. Later On is a great album as well, jessica is in my top ten. Interstellar Discussion is not nearly as good as everyone says, but it has some winning tracks. I am in the process of getting a list of all his best songs, and then putting them on a three CD set tentatively called, "3 times 4 is 25 years of jandek" It will feature a detailed booklet about the history of corwood, and at least two songs from each album, spilt into thirds for each of his three periods. Of course, i have no money for this project, it's just an idea. What I want to know, is what is everyone's top five songs? I'd be glad if we all responded, so i could get a good idea of what everybody likes. My top five: Down at the Ballpark First You Think Your Fortune's Lovely Rain in Madison Lavender She Fell Down what does everyone else think? D.M. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22000 invoked by uid 1029); 14 Sep 2002 21:07:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20020914210721.21999.qmail@cs.northwestern.edu> Received: (qmail 21958 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2002 21:07:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Sep 2002 21:07:07 -0000 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek picks up the guitar again From: Seth Tisue In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 14 Sep 2002 07:34:54 PDT." <20020914143454.48727.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:07:07 -0500 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Marks writes: Daniel> A cross between six and six and blue corpse? i can't even Daniel> imagine that. Six and six is one of his most drab albums, and Daniel> blue corpse is one of his best. The first features his whacky Daniel> tunings with no apparent chords, and the second features a Daniel> more talented guitarist using standard tunings and more Daniel> accesible music all around. I should clarify that comparison. I Threw You Away is definitely "drab" and difficult like Six and Six, not "accessible". What reminds me of Blue Corpse, though: - there's a lot of guitar strumming, as opposed to the string-at-a-time picking on "Six and Six" and the other early LP's, but it definitely sounds like Jandek strumming and not like the "talented" guitarist on Blue Corpse - on vocals, Jandek does a lot of that thing where he makes his voice go way up high, pitches sliding everywhere, "crooning" if you will, which I associate with the singing on Blue Corpse - the longer songs (compared to Six and Six where the songs are short, start up abruptly, and end just as abruptly) but even saying all this is probably putting too much weight on an off the cuff comparison. Daniel> What I want to know, is what is everyone's top Daniel> five songs? I'd be glad if we all responded, so i could get a Daniel> good idea of what everybody likes. My top five: Down at the Daniel> Ballpark First You Think Your Fortune's Lovely Rain in Daniel> Madison Lavender She Fell Down "Naked in the Afternoon", "Forgive Me", "Oh Jenny", "The Janitor", "Nancy Sings", "All in an Apple Orchard", "I Ain't Got None", "Rifle in the Closet", "This is a Death Dream", "Ballad of Robert", "House Up On the Hill", "I Passed By the Building", "Your Other Man", "C F", "When the Telephone Melts", "Lavender", "Message to the Clerk", "I'll Sit Alone and Think a Lot About You", "Upon the Grandeur", "Hey Mister Can You Tell Me", "Rain in Madison"... oops, that's way more than five. Much as I like the individually memorable songs like this, though, I'm just as attached to the masses of songs that I can't always individually remember or tell apart, but just pass by and fade away, like faces in a crowd or small towns along a highway. I think that'd make an even better mix CD -- "Jandek Songs You Can't Remember" -- except if you listened to it too much you'd start recognizing them. == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net "I'm not writing a book on the science of irony." - Marcel Duchamp Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23134 invoked by uid 1029); 14 Sep 2002 21:33:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20020914213336.23133.qmail@cs.northwestern.edu> Received: (qmail 23089 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2002 21:33:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Sep 2002 21:33:16 -0000 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Jandek picks up the guitar again From: Seth Tisue In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:21:51 -0000." Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:33:16 -0500 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Condon writes: Paul> Very interesting indeed. Any chance of posting a jpeg of the Paul> cover on the list, or on the site? Paul It's up on the site now: http://tisue.net/jandek/discog.html#0770 I'm used to thinking of Jandek as someone who never leaves Houston, despite evidence to the contrary (e.g. "Rain in Madison" and side two of Nine-Thirty). It's weird enough to imagine running into him on the street in Chicago, say, but even weirder that he'd turn up in London... == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net "I'm not writing a book on the science of irony." - Marcel Duchamp Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23748 invoked by uid 1029); 14 Sep 2002 21:40:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20020914214015.23747.qmail@cs.northwestern.edu> Received: (qmail 23646 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2002 21:38:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Sep 2002 21:38:36 -0000 Subject: Some "I Threw You Away" lyrics To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:38:35 -0500 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I can't play nothing I don't know how The spirit moves me Along with the breeze I alight on the ??? sidewalk It must be the park I like the flowers I like the statues I threw you away So I could play (from the title track) == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net "I'm not writing a book on the science of irony." - Marcel Duchamp Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24579 invoked by uid 1029); 14 Sep 2002 21:55:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 24182 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2002 21:42:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 14 Sep 2002 21:42:43 -0000 Received: from blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.94] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:41:54 -0500 Received: from pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:41:29 +0100 Received: from nyro (unverified [80.195.54.31]) by pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:41:28 +0100 Message-ID: <00eb01c25c37$7d6c9560$1f36c350@nyro> Reply-To: "Jamie Morrison" From: "Jamie Morrison" To: "jandek" References: <20020914214015.23747.qmail@cs.northwestern.edu> Subject: Re: Some "I Threw You Away" lyrics Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:41:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2002 21:41:54.0534 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B087860:01C25C37] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Interesting... so, is it any cop? How are you liking it? Jamie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Tisue" To: Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 10:38 PM Subject: Some "I Threw You Away" lyrics > > I can't play nothing > I don't know how > The spirit moves me > Along with the breeze > I alight on the ??? sidewalk > It must be the park > I like the flowers > I like the statues > I threw you away > So I could play > > (from the title track) > > == > Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net > "I'm not writing a book on the science of irony." - Marcel Duchamp Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 29681 invoked by uid 1029); 15 Sep 2002 00:24:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20020915002457.29680.qmail@cs.northwestern.edu> Received: (qmail 29598 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2002 00:22:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Sep 2002 00:22:46 -0000 Subject: Jandek site update To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 19:22:46 -0500 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk The "News" section has been removed and its contents folded into various other pages on the site, notably the "Press" page, which now has a lot more stuff listed on it. The "Background" section has been reorganized and updated, not as thoroughly as I'd like, but I fixed some places where it was woefully out of date, and it now prominently directs readers to the Wolk and Vine articles. == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net "I'm not writing a book on the science of irony." - Marcel Duchamp Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26529 invoked by uid 1029); 15 Sep 2002 14:36:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 25979 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2002 14:16:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Sep 2002 14:16:56 -0000 Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.5.133]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:11:54 -0500 Received: from bitechuser (ool-18bb8564.dyn.optonline.net [24.187.133.100]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 0.9 (built Jul 29 2002)) with SMTP id <0H2H008EOGMZ0H@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:12:51 -0400 From: Gregg Turek Subject: currently available To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2002 14:11:54.0817 (UTC) FILETIME=[D85C5B10:01C25CC1] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk So, what are the currently available CDs from Corwood? Are there twenty, or less or more? Gregg Turek yuus@optonline.net greggturek@bigfoot.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7989 invoked by uid 1029); 15 Sep 2002 22:47:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2937 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2002 19:44:59 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Sep 2002 19:44:59 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.20.76] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:39:04 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:39:04 -0700 Received: from 62.7.119.203 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:39:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.7.119.203] From: "Mark Lee Forshaw" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: New Jandek Cover Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:39:04 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2002 19:39:04.0443 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C8794B0:01C25CEF] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Well I live in England and I agree with Seth that the cover-photo for the new album definitely looks like a UK vista. That building at the top of the street should be fairly easily identifiable. I am going to show it to a few people - see if any one recognises it. One of the few advantages of living in such a small country. The cars look kind of old though. Could be the photo is fairly old. On the other hand, the street looks run down - maybe new cars are not an economic priority at those addresses. By the way: anybody else on this list live in the UK? Mark _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 8714 invoked by uid 1029); 15 Sep 2002 22:59:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 8446 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2002 22:50:03 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Sep 2002 22:50:03 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.40] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:45:44 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 15:45:44 -0700 Received: from 213.105.181.240 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:45:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.181.240] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: "I threw you away" cover Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:45:43 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2002 22:45:44.0018 (UTC) FILETIME=[9FFF1B20:01C25D09] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I had a funny feeling about this. I reckon that the picture on "I Threw You Away" is not of an English town, but an Irish one. The road sign appears to be a bilingual one like we have here, and though I can't be sure it seems to me to read: Luimneach/LIMERICK and An Bhlarna/BLARNEY. If the distance to these locations is on the sign, it's obscured in the picture, but you'd take the same road out of Cork city to get to both. Cork is also very hilly, and that building looks familiar to me, though I can't quite nail it down. I could be wrong about this, but I'll do a little research... _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 8820 invoked by uid 1029); 16 Sep 2002 14:08:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 3830 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2002 11:24:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 11:24:15 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.37.215] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 16 Sep 2002 06:19:00 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 04:18:59 -0700 Received: from 65.214.176.230 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:18:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.214.176.230] From: "brian t" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: "I threw you away" cover Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:18:59 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2002 11:18:59.0925 (UTC) FILETIME=[DADB3850:01C25D72] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk the cathedral(?) in the background seems to have an important visual meaning in the cover art and fits right in with jandeks obvious religious overtones. also " the sprit moves me..." is also the title of a beck song off of Steropathetic Soulmanure. Jandek is also a beck fan perhaps? >From: "Paul Condon" >To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu >Subject: "I threw you away" cover >Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:45:43 +0000 > >I had a funny feeling about this. >I reckon that the picture on "I Threw You Away" is not of an English town, >but an Irish one. The road sign appears to be a bilingual one like we have >here, and though I can't be sure it seems to me to read: >Luimneach/LIMERICK and An Bhlarna/BLARNEY. If the distance to these >locations is on the sign, it's obscured in the picture, but you'd take the >same road out of Cork city to get to both. Cork is also very hilly, and >that building looks familiar to me, though I can't quite nail it down. >I could be wrong about this, but I'll do a little research... > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Brian T _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26563 invoked by uid 1029); 16 Sep 2002 21:06:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 26030 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2002 20:58:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 20:58:12 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.19.135] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:51:03 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:51:02 -0700 Received: from 4.60.185.106 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:51:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.106] From: "Paul Frederick" To: paulgcondon@hotmail.com Cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Jandek's visit to Cork City Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:51:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2002 20:51:02.0907 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4F2A4B0:01C25DC2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk

>but you'd

>take the same road out of Cork city to get to both. Cork is also

>very hilly, and that building looks familiar to me, though I can't

>quite nail it down.

Brilliant deduction.... I have it on moderate authority that it is the "north cathedral" in Cork City. (also called "The Pro-cathedral of St Mary and St Anne’s", or the "north chapel").

It's a shot from the back or side, so it doesn't look exactly the same as some of the online sources. (which usually feature a well composed frontal shot).

A good pic of the north cathedral can be found here... ( http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Sep/20029161183986597346780.jpg )

The steep arched windows look different from the "I threw you away" cover, presumably they become more gently arched around the sides.

The brick and... "spires" are an exact match.

Sound right?
PF

I've put "i threw you away" on soulseek = (www.slsk.org) ... If anyone would = like to=20 listen...

As always, if your financial/geographic situation = permits it...=20 there is no excuse for not buying the album.

I make it available = only to=20 sate the curiosities of those who have not yet heard it... not as a = substitute=20 for buying the album.

I like it very much... what do others think = of it=20 so far?

Paul

------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C26343.FD641AF0-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23604 invoked by uid 1029); 24 Sep 2002 14:48:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 23505 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2002 14:46:30 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Sep 2002 14:46:30 -0000 Received: from mail02.ljextra.com ([208.3.165.71] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:43:44 -0500 Received: by ALM-MAIL-1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:43:44 -0400 Message-ID: <988631CF8A1FD511B5B40008C7F36CCD026D9DD5@ALM-MAIL-1> From: Tim Kelly To: 'Paul Condon' , jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: RE: full-page review in the Wire Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:43:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C263D8.C74C5730" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2002 14:43:44.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[C884FE40:01C263D8] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C263D8.C74C5730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Is this Wire publication available in the United States of America? Sincerely, Tim Kelly > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Condon [mailto:paulgcondon@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 5:05 PM > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > Subject: full-page review in the Wire > > > > The October issue of the Wire (Suicide on the cover) features > a full-page > review of Follow Your Footsteps, Modern Dances, Blue Corpse, > You Walk Alone > and Worthless Recluse (!) by Byron Coley. It's illustrated > with 4 of the > Summersteps photos. Unsuprisingly, very positive reviews of > the reissues, > and a fairly balanced one of Recluse, mentioning that it > divides fans and > isn't a good point to start, and compareing it to Beefheart's > "Well" and > recordings of a drunken Jack Kerouac. Coley recommends > purchasing the albums > even for those who aren't actually into the music as such, as > a kind of > objet d'art dealie... I reckon this'll create significant > interest as there > must be loads of potential Jandek fans who read the Wire but > haven't heard > of him, especially in this end of Europe where the college > radio thing is > pretty non-existant. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C263D8.C74C5730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: full-page review in the Wire

Is this Wire publication available in the United = States of America?
Sincerely,
Tim Kelly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Condon [mailto:paulgcondon@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 5:05 PM
> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
> Subject: full-page review in the Wire
>
>
>
> The October issue of the Wire (Suicide on the = cover) features
> a full-page
> review of Follow Your Footsteps, Modern Dances, = Blue Corpse,
> You Walk Alone
> and Worthless Recluse (!) by Byron Coley. It's = illustrated
> with 4 of the
> Summersteps photos. Unsuprisingly, very = positive reviews of
> the reissues,
> and a fairly balanced one of Recluse, = mentioning that it
> divides fans and
> isn't a good point to start, and compareing it = to Beefheart's
> "Well" and
> recordings of a drunken Jack Kerouac. Coley = recommends
> purchasing the albums
> even for those who aren't actually into the = music as such, as
> a kind of
> objet d'art dealie... I reckon this'll create = significant
> interest as there
> must be loads of potential Jandek fans who read = the Wire but
> haven't heard
> of him, especially in this end of Europe where = the college
> radio thing is
> pretty non-existant.
>
> = _________________________________________________________________=
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C263D8.C74C5730-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25168 invoked by uid 1029); 24 Sep 2002 15:11:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 25089 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2002 15:10:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Sep 2002 15:10:29 -0000 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.85]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:00:46 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay03.mac.com (smtp-relay03-en1 [10.13.10.222]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id g8OF0dOr010530 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay03.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g8OF0cKN016613 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([141.151.136.238]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H2Y71200.BUL for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:00:38 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: maurice@mail.mac.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <988631CF8A1FD511B5B40008C7F36CCD026D9DD5@ALM-MAIL-1> References: <988631CF8A1FD511B5B40008C7F36CCD026D9DD5@ALM-MAIL-1> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:00:34 -0400 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Maurice Rickard Subject: RE: full-page review in the Wire Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2002 15:00:46.0898 (UTC) FILETIME=[29BC2920:01C263DB] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Yup. Not necessarily easy to find depending on where you are, but I've seen it in places ranging from your local indie CD shop (the kind of place that actually stocks Janky's ouvre) to Barnes and Noble (which, of course, doesn't stock the man's ouvre, but does stock the Wire). -M At 10:43 AM -0400 9/24/02, Tim Kelly wrote: Is this Wire publication available in the United States of America? Sincerely, Tim Kelly -- Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25874 invoked by uid 1029); 24 Sep 2002 15:20:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 25586 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2002 15:12:30 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Sep 2002 15:12:30 -0000 Received: from web12807.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.42]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:12:16 -0500 Message-ID: <20020924151208.58473.qmail@web12807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.148.51.177] by web12807.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:12:08 PDT Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:12:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Carlson Subject: RE: full-page review in the Wire To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <988631CF8A1FD511B5B40008C7F36CCD026D9DD5@ALM-MAIL-1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2002 15:12:16.0585 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4D20B90:01C263DC] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Yes. It's available at finer record shops and bookstores everywhere, although it costs about $7 in the States. > Is this Wire publication available in the United States of America? > Sincerely, > Tim Kelly > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 32336 invoked by uid 1029); 24 Sep 2002 17:45:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 31061 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2002 17:10:30 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Sep 2002 17:10:30 -0000 Received: from liberty.francomm.com ([208.9.129.10] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:10:15 -0500 Received: from francomm.com (max48a-208.9.129.93 [208.9.129.93] (may be forged)) by liberty.francomm.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g8OIOICE018666 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:24:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3D909BCB.61C50931@francomm.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:07:23 -0400 From: nevermor@francomm.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jandek Subject: Re: Jandek Best-of References: <20020922202120.55444.qmail@web12001.mail.yahoo.com> <00d901c2628d$f2d5bdc0$c936c350@nyro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2002 17:10:16.0304 (UTC) FILETIME=[40A96F00:01C263ED] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I had composed my own "Greatest hits" not too long ago. Cronilogical order. Because it was easier, I (mostly) only used songs that are available on Jandek cds. 1. Naked In The Afternoon 2. Nancy Sings 3. She Fell Down 4. Mothers Day Card 5. Didn't Ask Why 6. I KNow YOu Well 7. I Passed By The Building 8. CF 9. Variant 10. Part II 11. YOur Other Man 12. Long Way 13. The Way That You Act 14. Crack A Smile 15. Upon The Granduer 16. Babe I Love You 17. Plenty 18. I Knew About Them 19. The Clothes 20. You Won't Get Up Jamie Morrison wrote: > Here's my (hastily assembled) attempt: > > 1. Naked in the Afternoon > 2. Point Judith > 3. Jessica > 4. Nancy Sings > 5. Liquids Flow to the Sea > 6. You Painted Your Teeth > 7. I Know You Well > 8. Carnival Queen > 9. House of the Rising Sun > 10. I Passed by the Building > 11. Quinn Boys II > 12. The Cat That Walked From Shelbyville > 13. Message to the Clerk > 14. License to Kill > 15. Come Through With a Smile > 16. Babe I Love You > 17. Walking > 18. Janky > 19. New Town > 20. Killer Cats in the Caribbean > > I think that's crap. Oh well. Could anyoneelse do better? > > Love Jamie > > Maybe a good Jandek mix? :) (methinks that would be a bit *too* much Jandek > to take in one sitting) Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12149 invoked by uid 1029); 24 Sep 2002 21:32:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 11802 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2002 21:24:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 24 Sep 2002 21:24:29 -0000 Received: from holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([207.69.200.187]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:24:10 -0500 Received: from smui08.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.50]) by holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17tx9b-0002Mw-00 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:23:35 -0400 Received: by smui08.slb.mindspring.net id RAA0000000466; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:23:34 -0400 From: "Tom Meadows" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Reply-To: indianfood@mindspring.com Subject: Jandek in Wire Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 12.29.34.2 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2002 21:24:23.0773 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0DC90D0:01C26410] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Just an FYI: there's a nice little article/review in the latest Wire by Byron Coley. He's the writer that piqued my interest in Jandek over a decade ago in the pages of Forced Exposure. -Tom Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7869 invoked by uid 1029); 25 Sep 2002 21:23:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 7786 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2002 21:22:27 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 25 Sep 2002 21:22:27 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.111] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 25 Sep 2002 16:22:06 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:22:05 -0700 Received: from 213.105.181.240 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 21:22:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.181.240] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: excerpt on WMFU Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 21:22:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2002 21:22:05.0584 (UTC) FILETIME=[98E85900:01C264D9] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk If, like me, you get totally confused by Soulseek, there's about 3 1/2 minutes of the title track of "I Threw You Away" on a WFMU show on RealAudio here - you'll have to forward to about 2.47. http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/5029 Seth's description of a cross between Six and Six and Blue Corpse makes sense to me now - sparse and slow with howlin' at the moon, moanin' at midnight vocals. Apparently a return to the one-handed guitar style too. This being Jandek, I'm assuming this is fairly representative of the whole album - is this the case? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 21558 invoked by uid 1029); 26 Sep 2002 17:08:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 16463 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 15:48:35 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 15:48:35 -0000 Received: from liberty.francomm.com ([208.9.129.10] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:45:03 -0500 Received: from francomm.com (max48b-208.9.129.153 [208.9.129.153] (may be forged)) by liberty.francomm.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g8QGxPPc008668 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:59:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3D932AC2.5D1419E8@francomm.com> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:41:54 -0400 From: nevermor@francomm.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: I Threw You Away thoughts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Sep 2002 15:45:05.0031 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEEE9170:01C26573] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I'm listening to I Threw You Away at the moment.... I'm a bit disappointed at first listen. Not that it's bad.. just not what I was expecting. I guess I was expecting something more like Blue Corpse or Follow Your Footsteps with that type of guitar, but it's not. The guitar is typical Jandekian guitar with Jandek actually howling the mournful lyrics. Songs seem very similar to each other at first listen. The recording quality is quite good. Doesn't seem like the last few recordings done with that cheap voice actuated recorder. Maybe those voice-recordings were done "on the road" while he was in the UK? Who knows... PS does anyone else get bounced messages when they email to this list? Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26515 invoked by uid 1029); 26 Sep 2002 18:21:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20020926182115.26514.qmail@cs.northwestern.edu> Received: (qmail 26455 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 18:20:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 18:20:20 -0000 Subject: Bounce messages when posting to Jandek list To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:20:20 -0500 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk If you get one, just ignore it and see if your post goes though anyway, which it should (although not always right away, since I have to approve each post). I'd fix it, but the mail setup on the servers here is about to totally change, so it's not really worth tinkering with until the new setup is in place. Your Jandek list admin, == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net "I'm not writing a book on the science of irony." - Marcel Duchamp Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4674 invoked by uid 1029); 26 Sep 2002 21:35:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4510 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 21:33:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 21:33:10 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.113] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:27:41 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:27:41 -0700 Received: from 213.190.147.241 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:27:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.190.147.241] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: yet another comp Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:27:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Sep 2002 21:27:41.0293 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B6B39D0:01C265A3] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Here's my five: 1) Point Judith 2) Down in a Mirror 3) I Ain't Got None 4) The Electric End 5) A Dozen Drops And this is a comp I made for a friend, from all the albums I had at the time, and trying to be kind of representative. side 1 1- Naked in the Afternoon 2- European Jewel (Incomplete) 3- Point Judith 4- The Janitor 5- Down in a Mirror 6- European Jewel 7- Nancy Sings 8- Supression 9- Nepoleon in Russia 10- If Your Fortune Fails You 11- Message to the Clerk pt.1 12- Couldn't Be a Reader 13- I Ain't Got None side 2 14- Nine Thirty 15- I Know You Well 16- I Passed by the Building 17- You Other Man 18- Phillip Was Mentioned 19- Rain in Madison 20- White Box 21- Long Long 22- Sleepless Night 23- New Town 24- You Standing There (The Beginning version) 25- The Beginning (excerpt) 26- It's Your House (excerpt) 27- Frosted Field 28- Interlude All that and no room for Breathtaker, Call You the Sun, Voices in the Dark, This is a Death Dream, Down in the Ballpark, Janky, Hey Mister Can You Tell Me, A Dozen Drops, etc... Since I did that comp I got Somebody in the Snow, Lost Cause, and 12th Apostle, and from those I'd have to include Bring it in a Manger, Tell Me Who You Are, God Came Between Us, a bit of The Electric End, and Whiskers. And I still don't have 'em all. Jesus. If you ask me, you'd need a double cd to scratch the surface properly. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16568 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2002 21:19:41 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Sep 2002 21:19:41 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:18:27 -0500 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8SLIQI30373 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:18:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 16369 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2002 21:12:41 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Sep 2002 21:12:41 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.123] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:12:26 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:12:26 -0700 Received: from 213.190.147.241 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 21:12:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.190.147.241] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: white box requiem lyrics Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 21:12:25 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2002 21:12:26.0408 (UTC) FILETIME=[BEEE5A80:01C26733] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Jandek's concept album! My theory is that this is made up of only 2 or 3 long performances which were divided into shorter tracks (maybe after having "second thoughts" about the accessability (!) of longer songs) - you can hear where tracks end in the middle of a note and the subsequent track begins on the end of the same note, and also tracks 6 & 7 are obviously a continued lyric. WHITE BOX (2) Well I did it now I did it now The box said "Do not open under pain of death" It had my initials there where I signed my initials there on it On that white box I signed my initials there "Do not open under pain of death" I opened it anyway I died anyway (x2) So I come back and say Come back to stay Lord knows I love you anyway I love you anyway SECOND THOUGHTS (3) I been havin' bad case of the second thoughts You know how the second thoughts is You think first and then you think about it Bad case of the second thoughts Second thoughts 'bout so much of first thoughts THINKING (6) If you're thinking in your head If you will hear what I have said I can't say it PART YESTERDAY (7) Yesterday I could say it, I know I could I just know Cause I'm part yesterday Makes me all today So it's so hard to tell you I quit describin' things, that's what I did Now you got to go searchin' inside of your strings You better, better not tell You won't be able to (x2) And inside you know (and sorry no?) Cause I'm not able to Have any second thoughts I opened the box I opened the box anyway EVENING SUN (9) When I live I will die When I die I will live And when I live I will live When I die I will die MUST HAVE BEEN A MIRACLE (10) It must have been a miracle Sent you down to me Reminded me of me And that I needed, I wanted You made me come alive You made me live, you made me die WONDERING (11) I thank you for your light You're so hard to believe I hardly believe you , I... That you could be there so hard to believe You got me wonderin' Cause I can't believe you hardly But, but I can, I can believe you, hardly WHAT SHOULD I DO (12) Well I, well I try work something out I found out something different So what should I do DIDN'T REALLY DIE (14) And I don't know if what I did Was wrong or right I believe you and I don't But I believe you What another man he said (?) Was very good So I got second thoughts I wanna die this way So I can live another day with you So I didn't really die I just kill myself in a way You can't see So you see this is my second thoughts I'm sendin' away best way I can It's the best way I can You know why, do you know why _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 28184 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 04:09:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 04:09:40 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 28 Sep 2002 23:07:44 -0500 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8T47hb31729 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 23:07:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 22918 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 01:01:36 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 01:01:36 -0000 Received: from web13303.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.175.39]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:57:32 -0500 Message-ID: <20020929005728.23632.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.126.199.89] by web13303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:57:28 PDT Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:57:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bradley Be Subject: current corwood discography To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Sep 2002 00:57:32.0679 (UTC) FILETIME=[314BC170:01C26753] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk http://geocities.com/bradleybee/corwood.jpg ===== http://www.geocities.com/bradleybee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 21236 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 14:34:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 14:34:38 -0000 Received: from dylan.cs.northwestern.edu ([129.105.100.5]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 29 Sep 2002 09:25:29 -0500 Received: (from tisue@localhost) by dylan.cs.northwestern.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8TEPTm09941 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 09:25:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 16068 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 11:17:16 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 11:17:16 -0000 Received: from smtp.comcast.net ([24.153.64.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 29 Sep 2002 06:10:29 -0500 Received: from [68.61.97.85] (pcp02688875pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net [68.61.97.85]) by mtaout05.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.4 (built Aug 5 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H3700G1Z5PERI@mtaout05.icomcast.net> for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 07:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 07:12:24 -0400 From: "Danny Casolaro's Octopus" Subject: best of? To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Sep 2002 11:10:29.0171 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1CB1830:01C267A8] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Would some kind soul be willing to make me a best of Jandek cd? I have a lot of non-Jandek to trade... James ----- Charlie Rose: The film [The English Patient] is interesting in that it's not the book. David Foster Wallace: That is difficult to argue with.