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on 7/31/02 6:34 PM, Michael Brooker at hirakemike@yahoo.com wrote:

> This information can be obtained from the Copyright
> Info main website.  Also, Sterlings middle name is
> Richard.
> 
> mb

Here's the link...

  http://www.loc.gov/copyright/


-ian



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My Jandek Dream

I was looking through Houston phone books on microfilm at my university 
library for any information on Corwood or Sterling (which really happened 
but...) when Jandek (i.e. the guy on the covers) came up to me and yelled 
"Stop doing research on me!" and ran out of the building. It was terrifying.

Kevin John

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Cool. What was the source of this information?

Larry Epke 
Lepke@thecha.org 

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	>Off topic, how old does everyone think Jandek is?

	My posts must not be getting thru: Jandek aka Sterling R. Smith,
owner of
	Corwood Industries, Houston, TX, has a DOB of 10/26/1945, which
makes him
	(gasp!) 56 years old.

	

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I'm a newspaper reporter, finding folks who don't want to be found is part
of the job.






Michael Brooker <hirakemike@yahoo.com>@cs.northwestern.edu on 07/31/2002
09:34:21 PM

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This information can be obtained from the Copyright
Info main website.  Also, Sterlings middle name is
Richard.

mb




--- AKelly1971@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 7/31/02 5:37:59 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com writes:
>
> > My posts must not be getting thru: Jandek aka
> Sterling R. Smith, owner of
> >  Corwood Industries, Houston, TX, has a DOB of
> 10/26/1945, which makes him
> >  (gasp!) 56 years old.
>
> Hey Chris, where do you get your information?  ~Amy


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I'm 33, just so you know!
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> 
> >Off topic, how old does everyone think Jandek is?
> 
> My posts must not be getting thru: Jandek aka Sterling R. 
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http://www.geocities.com/summersteps/corwoodphotosnine.html

look at the picture of the guy (girl?) on this page.
These are some of the photos that corwood gave to
summersteps. Who the hell is that freak? is that the
real jandek? perhaps John, or Eddie?  or maybe it's a
woman, Nancy perahps? aw, screw it, it's probobly just
some bum at the graveyard.

You are a bum when you wear that hat,

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>http://www.geocities.com/summersteps/corwoodphotosnine.html
>
>look at the picture of the guy (girl?) on this page.
>These are some of the photos that corwood gave to
>summersteps. Who the hell is that freak? is that the
>real jandek? perhaps John, or Eddie?  or maybe it's a
>woman, Nancy perahps? aw, screw it, it's probobly just
>some bum at the graveyard.
>
>You are a bum when you wear that hat,
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here's the copyright info for "Later On"


1. Registration Number:    SR-35-283  
Title:    Later on / [performed by] aJandek. 
Imprint:    Corwood LP 0741, c1981. 
Description:    1 sound disc : 33 1/3 rpm, stereo. ;
12 in. 
Claimant:    Sterling Richard Smith 
Name in © Notice:    notice: Corwood Industries 
Created:    1981 
 
Published:    22Dec81 
 
Registered:    25May82
 
Author on © Application:    sound recording: Sterling
Richard Smith. 
Contents:    Your condition. What did I hear? Just
whisper. Oh, Jenny. Until then. So fly, Max. The
Janitor. Don't know if I care. John came. Jessica.
Jackson's gone down the Mississippi. The Second end. 
Special Codes:   7/U 

Sterling (or shall we call him Dick?) has registered
nearly all of his albums with the copyright bureau.
Note that it says "aJandek" what does that mean? I
know seth said it means gift in hungarian... ,maybe he
had the right idea. Or perhaps it means something
else. 'a' could be for artist. Interesting, though. He
hasn't registered Ready for the House. 

If we're gonna make T-Shirts, we should make those of
the covers that haven't been copyrighted, or just ask
him. They'd have the cover on the front, and on the
back it would say "Jandek on Corwood" So the best two
covers that we could get way with are RFTH and White
Box. But the question is: would we Glad to Get Away
with it? Perhaps it is better to ask him. Still, the
T-Shirt is a great Idea. 

I swear, If the dude had been around in the late
sixties, You Walk Alone would have been recognised as
a classic of that era. Imagine, Jandek at woodstock.
He'd fit in perfectly with that crowd. Or he'd join a
band: Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, and Jandek. Or
maybe not. When it started to rain, he could have sung
"Rain in Madison." Now there's a crazy dream for you! 

Here's another one: Sterling is the Guest Speaker at a
university music class, giving a lecture on Pentatonic
Refractive Disonence! but he does it the whole time
behind a stiff cotton sheet. 

Or, we suddenly travel to the late-mid 21st century,
where Jandek-like music is the hottest new style among
youth, and he is regognised as a Pioneer of Modern
music, like some kind of experimentalist Robert
Johnson. And then, given inflation and his new
popularity, we sell our collections for over 450,000
dollars an album, and subsequently become immensly
wealthy, all of us retiring to--houston, where we
spend the rest of our days saying "Well, I was caught
on to the whole Jandek deal waaaay before anyone else.
We all knew he was a genius the minute we heard that
stuff." on 'Behind the Music.' As for the documentary,
well, it too is regonised as a visionary film. Rock
and Roll!

You're just somebody in the snow,

D.M.

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Epke's 199 th dream:

Smith at SXSW in a duet Roky Erickson! (I'll bet Sonic Youth would DIE =
to
appear with them.)=20

Given that Smith has been willing to enter into (limited) =
correspondence
with some fans and some on this list, I think asking his permission for =
the
t-shirts is the moral thing to do. I wouldn't think such would impinge =
on
his privacy if the shirts featured pictures that aren't recognizable. =
Thus
"Ready for the House," "One Foot in the North" or "Telegraph Melts" =
would be
good choices. I like the "One Foot" or "Telegraph" pictures, since they
feature him in some way, but are totally impossible to identify (as =
opposed
to "Worthless Recluse," "Lost Cause," "The Living End" or "Six and Six"
which are identifiable, if the person who saw them knew Smith in some =
other
context). "Ready for the House" has the historical position of being =
the
first recording, so I think that's a reasonable choice too. (And one =
can
recognize the objects in the picture, though it's a pretty unremarkable
shot.) I wouldn't want a cover that's TOO obscure, like "Living in a =
Moon so
Blue," "The Rocks Crumble" or "On the Way." People who are not fully =
into
Jandek might not even recognize those covers, even if they know some of =
the
others.=20

Perhaps the best way to get his cooperation might be just to do all the
legwork, such as getting the designs prepared and the printer lined up =
and
just present him with a fait accompli.=20

If he won't cooperate, I guess one could still go ahead with the plan,
waiting for Smith to sue or ignore us. But if he doesn't want anyone to =
do
this, I'd probably not buy one out of respect for his wishes.=20

(My apologies to Daniel Marks. I accidentally sent this only to him =
while
attempting to send it to the entire group.)=20

Larry Epke=20
Lepke@thecha.org <mailto:Lepke@thecha.org> =20

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably =
the
same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, =
it is
their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to =
provide
new guards for their future security." - T. Jefferson=20


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<mailto:[SMTP:alfredggnome@yahoo.com]>=20
	Sent:	Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:03 AM
	To:	jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
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	here's the copyright info for "Later On"


	1. Registration Number:    SR-35-283 =20
	Title:    Later on / [performed by] aJandek.=20
	Imprint:    Corwood LP 0741, c1981.=20
	Description:    1 sound disc : 33 1/3 rpm, stereo. ;
	12 in.=20
	Claimant:    Sterling Richard Smith=20
	Name in =A9 Notice:    notice: Corwood Industries=20
	Created:    1981=20
	=20
	Published:    22Dec81=20
	=20
	Registered:    25May82
	=20
	Author on =A9 Application:    sound recording: Sterling
	Richard Smith.=20
	Contents:    Your condition. What did I hear? Just
	whisper. Oh, Jenny. Until then. So fly, Max. The
	Janitor. Don't know if I care. John came. Jessica.
	Jackson's gone down the Mississippi. The Second end.=20
	Special Codes:   7/U=20

	Sterling (or shall we call him Dick?) has registered
	nearly all of his albums with the copyright bureau.
	Note that it says "aJandek" what does that mean? I
	know seth said it means gift in hungarian... ,maybe he
	had the right idea. Or perhaps it means something
	else. 'a' could be for artist. Interesting, though. He
	hasn't registered Ready for the House.=20

	If we're gonna make T-Shirts, we should make those of
	the covers that haven't been copyrighted, or just ask
	him. They'd have the cover on the front, and on the
	back it would say "Jandek on Corwood" So the best two
	covers that we could get way with are RFTH and White
	Box. But the question is: would we Glad to Get Away
	with it? Perhaps it is better to ask him. Still, the
	T-Shirt is a great Idea.=20

	I swear, If the dude had been around in the late
	sixties, You Walk Alone would have been recognised as
	a classic of that era. Imagine, Jandek at woodstock.
	He'd fit in perfectly with that crowd. Or he'd join a
	band: Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, and Jandek. Or
	maybe not. When it started to rain, he could have sung
	"Rain in Madison." Now there's a crazy dream for you!=20

	Here's another one: Sterling is the Guest Speaker at a
	university music class, giving a lecture on Pentatonic
	Refractive Disonence! but he does it the whole time
	behind a stiff cotton sheet.=20

	Or, we suddenly travel to the late-mid 21st century,
	where Jandek-like music is the hottest new style among
	youth, and he is regognised as a Pioneer of Modern
	music, like some kind of experimentalist Robert
	Johnson. And then, given inflation and his new
	popularity, we sell our collections for over 450,000
	dollars an album, and subsequently become immensly
	wealthy, all of us retiring to--houston, where we
	spend the rest of our days saying "Well, I was caught
	on to the whole Jandek deal waaaay before anyone else.
	We all knew he was a genius the minute we heard that
	stuff." on 'Behind the Music.' As for the documentary,
	well, it too is regonised as a visionary film. Rock
	and Roll!

	You're just somebody in the snow,

	D.M.
=09

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looks like he does more than the Dave & Buster's stuff...

Smith Sterling Corp.
4326A Scotland
Houston, TX  77007
Sterling Richard Smith, owner

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>looks like he does more than the Dave &amp; Buster's stuff...
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I mailed Corwood a letter requesting permission to print shirts two weeks ago 
today.  Still no reply.  Ah, well.....

Amy

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on 8/1/02 12:24 PM, Oogsab@aol.com at Oogsab@aol.com wrote:

> looks like he does more than the Dave & Buster's stuff...
> 
> Smith Sterling Corp.
> 4326A Scotland 
> Houston, TX  77007
> Sterling Richard Smith, owner

Hmmm...

http://www.futuresmag.com/library/sourcebook/firms-s.html


Also maybe of interest...

http://www.bus.utexas.edu/students/gbwc/



-ian

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Nah, just make up the T-shirts anyway and mail the profits to Corwood, =
no
return address. An art act worthy of Jandek, methinks.





"Epke, Larry" <LEpke@thecha.org>@cs.northwestern.edu on 08/01/2002 03:0=
6:30
PM

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Epke's 199 th dream:

Smith at SXSW in a duet Roky Erickson! (I'll bet Sonic Youth would DIE =
to
appear with them.)

Given that Smith has been willing to enter into (limited) correspondenc=
e
with some fans and some on this list, I think asking his permission for=
 the
t-shirts is the moral thing to do. I wouldn't think such would impinge =
on
his privacy if the shirts featured pictures that aren't recognizable. T=
hus
"Ready for the House," "One Foot in the North" or "Telegraph Melts" wou=
ld
be
good choices. I like the "One Foot" or "Telegraph" pictures, since they=

feature him in some way, but are totally impossible to identify (as opp=
osed
to "Worthless Recluse," "Lost Cause," "The Living End" or "Six and Six"=

which are identifiable, if the person who saw them knew Smith in some o=
ther
context). "Ready for the House" has the historical position of being th=
e
first recording, so I think that's a reasonable choice too. (And one ca=
n
recognize the objects in the picture, though it's a pretty unremarkable=

shot.) I wouldn't want a cover that's TOO obscure, like "Living in a Mo=
on
so
Blue," "The Rocks Crumble" or "On the Way." People who are not fully in=
to
Jandek might not even recognize those covers, even if they know some of=
 the
others.

Perhaps the best way to get his cooperation might be just to do all the=

legwork, such as getting the designs prepared and the printer lined up =
and
just present him with a fait accompli.

If he won't cooperate, I guess one could still go ahead with the plan,
waiting for Smith to sue or ignore us. But if he doesn't want anyone to=
 do
this, I'd probably not buy one out of respect for his wishes.

(My apologies to Daniel Marks. I accidentally sent this only to him whi=
le
attempting to send it to the entire group.)

Larry Epke
Lepke@thecha.org <mailto:Lepke@thecha.org>

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably t=
he
same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, =
it
is
their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to pro=
vide
new guards for their future security." - T. Jefferson


     -----Original Message-----
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     here's the copyright info for "Later On"


     1. Registration Number:    SR-35-283
     Title:    Later on / [performed by] aJandek.
     Imprint:    Corwood LP 0741, c1981.
     Description:    1 sound disc : 33 1/3 rpm, stereo. ;
     12 in.
     Claimant:    Sterling Richard Smith
     Name in =A9 Notice:    notice: Corwood Industries
     Created:    1981

     Published:    22Dec81

     Registered:    25May82

     Author on =A9 Application:    sound recording: Sterling
     Richard Smith.
     Contents:    Your condition. What did I hear? Just
     whisper. Oh, Jenny. Until then. So fly, Max. The
     Janitor. Don't know if I care. John came. Jessica.
     Jackson's gone down the Mississippi. The Second end.
     Special Codes:   7/U

     Sterling (or shall we call him Dick?) has registered
     nearly all of his albums with the copyright bureau.
     Note that it says "aJandek" what does that mean? I
     know seth said it means gift in hungarian... ,maybe he
     had the right idea. Or perhaps it means something
     else. 'a' could be for artist. Interesting, though. He
     hasn't registered Ready for the House.

     If we're gonna make T-Shirts, we should make those of
     the covers that haven't been copyrighted, or just ask
     him. They'd have the cover on the front, and on the
     back it would say "Jandek on Corwood" So the best two
     covers that we could get way with are RFTH and White
     Box. But the question is: would we Glad to Get Away
     with it? Perhaps it is better to ask him. Still, the
     T-Shirt is a great Idea.

     I swear, If the dude had been around in the late
     sixties, You Walk Alone would have been recognised as
     a classic of that era. Imagine, Jandek at woodstock.
     He'd fit in perfectly with that crowd. Or he'd join a
     band: Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, and Jandek. Or
     maybe not. When it started to rain, he could have sung
     "Rain in Madison." Now there's a crazy dream for you!

     Here's another one: Sterling is the Guest Speaker at a
     university music class, giving a lecture on Pentatonic
     Refractive Disonence! but he does it the whole time
     behind a stiff cotton sheet.

     Or, we suddenly travel to the late-mid 21st century,
     where Jandek-like music is the hottest new style among
     youth, and he is regognised as a Pioneer of Modern
     music, like some kind of experimentalist Robert
     Johnson. And then, given inflation and his new
     popularity, we sell our collections for over 450,000
     dollars an album, and subsequently become immensly
     wealthy, all of us retiring to--houston, where we
     spend the rest of our days saying "Well, I was caught
     on to the whole Jandek deal waaaay before anyone else.
     We all knew he was a genius the minute we heard that
     stuff." on 'Behind the Music.' As for the documentary,
     well, it too is regonised as a visionary film. Rock
     and Roll!

     You're just somebody in the snow,

     D.M.


=


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Well, I rather like that idea too!

Larry Epke 
Lepke@thecha.org 

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the
same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is
their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide
new guards for their future security." - T. Jefferson 


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	Nah, just make up the T-shirts anyway and mail the profits to
Corwood, no return address. An art act worthy of Jandek, methinks.

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In a message dated 8/1/02 3:53:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com writes:

> Nah, just make up the T-shirts anyway and mail the profits to Corwood, no
>  return address. An art act worthy of Jandek, methinks.

No can do -- there will be no profits.  I'm selling the shirts at cost, if 
and only if Corwood gives me permission to reproduce the image.  Nice idea, 
though.

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Comparing pictures of the Sterling Smith in the Graduate Business Wine Club and Jandek album cover pictures is interesting.  Wine Club Sterling and Jandek definitely have very smilar head shapes...oblong and very ovular.  However, the ages (Wine Club picture vs. Jandek's age as discussed here) and comparative physical fitness seem to make pretty clear that it's not the same guy.  I wouldn't be surprised at all if the two men were related, which would make Sterling Smith a family name.  That'd explain its ubiquity. Am I just seeing things when it comes to the visual similarity, though?  Let me know.

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there's a Sterling R. Smith who works a Dave and
Busters' of dallas, in the investor realtions
division......

Jandek spelled Backwards is Kednaj,

D.M.

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> If we're gonna make T-Shirts, we should make those of
> the covers that haven't been copyrighted, or just ask
> him. They'd have the cover on the front, and on the
> back it would say "Jandek on Corwood" So the best two
> covers that we could get way with are RFTH and White
> Box. But the question is: would we Glad to Get Away
> with it? Perhaps it is better to ask him. Still, the
> T-Shirt is a great Idea.

I like: Light grey t-shirt; "Six on Six" cover on the front, nicely blended
in with the shirt coloring; "Jandek on Corwood" on the back in the
appropriate font.  Yeah baby, YEAH!

Also, what would copyright matter in the context you'd mentioned it in with
respect to the albums?  Doesn't that apply only to the songs, and not the
covers?

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> http://www.bus.utexas.edu/students/gbwc/


Nah, way too young -- I find it quite easy to believe Jandek is 56 years 
old. And 56 doesn't seem really *that* ancient to me these days, having 
turned "jack benny's age" this year. I find the older I get my thoughts 
on aging change.

Dang, those are great pics of the wine club!


And as far as those tshirts I'd like to point out that I live in 
Vancouver, BC and have had tshirts printed up before for a fairly good 
paice. If I get at least 20 it would be about $7.00 each for Hanes Beefy 
Tee's black on white one sided (plus a one time $20.00 setup fee). I 
personally really liked the "I'm with Jandek" idea. I really doubt that 
Jandek is going to respond to the request for permission to do up shirts 
(as noble a gesture as that was).

SO...ahem, if enough people were interested in getting shirts (that 
would be at least 15 individual shirts) I would go ahead and get them 
made. I would charge US equivalent to the CDN charges for the total 
amount of the printing and shipping (air mail postage/envelopes). I 
imagine this would be about $10.00 US per shirt in total.

Would the original "I'm with Jandek" designer please contact me?

Also, if anyone would like to get rolling on this and would like that 
design please contact me as well. If there's interest I'd love to do this.

Regards, Judith





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From: "Ben Londa" <exit@exitproductions.com>
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:35:29 -0500
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> SO...ahem, if enough people were interested in getting shirts (that 
> would be at least 15 individual shirts) I would go ahead and get them 
> made. I would charge US equivalent to the CDN charges for the total 
> amount of the printing and shipping (air mail postage/envelopes). I 
> imagine this would be about $10.00 US per shirt in total.
> 
> Would the original "I'm with Jandek" designer please contact me?
> 

That'd be me... "I'm with Jandek" person, that is..

I think the price and shirt idea overall is a great idea..




ben

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>4326A Scotland, Houston, TX 77007; (713) 861-6500



When Mr. Smith called my house last year, I had the operator tell me where 
the call originated from and it came from that street address.

Interesting. Although, I do believe the house (#) was different.

I'll have to check.

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It was my suggestion to do the Six and Six shirts about a month ago.  I have 
a friend who will silkscreen the shirts for free, and the cost of the shirts 
is $4 each.  So before we start flooding the market for Jandek shirts, let's 
figure out which design is most popular and get it done, hopefully with 
Corwood's blessing.

That's my two cents, anyway.

Peace, Amy

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my only jandek dream was on my 26th birthday and is here in my dream log:
http://www.angelfire.com/space/spectra/dreams/dreams3.html
 

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Smith certainly could have copyrighted the images as well as the songs. At
one time, one had to send a form to register a creative work for copyright,
but the law is now such that creating any work gives the copyright, without
further action. (That's been the law since 1978, so all of Jandek's work is
covered.) 

Therefore, using a Jandek image on a T-shirt that isn't approved by the
copyright holder is a violation of law, and the person producing them is
subject to criminal and civil penalties. Of course, Smith (or his counsel)
would have to bring suit, and given his reclusive nature that seems
improbable, but those who are responsible for the shirts should realize what
they COULD get into. 

Larry Epke 
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	-----Original Message-----
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	> If we're gonna make T-Shirts, we should make those of
	> the covers that haven't been copyrighted, or just ask
	> him. They'd have the cover on the front, and on the
	> back it would say "Jandek on Corwood" So the best two
	> covers that we could get way with are RFTH and White
	> Box. But the question is: would we Glad to Get Away
	> with it? Perhaps it is better to ask him. Still, the
	> T-Shirt is a great Idea.

	I like: Light grey t-shirt; "Six on Six" cover on the front, nicely
blended
	in with the shirt coloring; "Jandek on Corwood" on the back in the
	appropriate font.  Yeah baby, YEAH!

	Also, what would copyright matter in the context you'd mentioned it
in with
	respect to the albums?  Doesn't that apply only to the songs, and
not the
	covers?

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Right On! I like the Six and Six idea a lot. I prefer
that cover to the living end, although both would
work. So the person from BC who said she could make up
the t shirts, could perhaps make both her design and
ours. I don't like the "i'm with jandek" idea as much
as the jandek on corwood shirt, although a good one
would be "I visited PO Box 15375 in Houston and all i
got was this lousy t shirt" or "you are a jandek fan
when you wear this shirt"

did you know that jandek is a regular on Dr. Demento's
audio torture chamber?

it said a cow gave poison milk,

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> 
> Therefore, using a Jandek image on a T-shirt that
> isn't approved by the
> copyright holder is a violation of law, and the
> person producing them is
> subject to criminal and civil penalties. Of course,
> Smith (or his counsel)
> would have to bring suit, and given his reclusive
> nature that seems
> improbable, but those who are responsible for the
> shirts should realize what
> they COULD get into. 

i think, however, that this rates on the criminal
offence scale right up there with making a CD-R of a
cd you own for a friend. Plus it's free advertising
for corwood. Imagine, you're strollin' down the
street, and some fine citizen comes up to you and says
"my who is that badass rocker?" and you reply, "'tis
jandek, fine sir, the greatest musician ever to use a
four-track!" bingo! another potential fan! 

i want a t-shirt!

got a couple links here....

www.zombo.com very jandek-y site. you can do anything,
but there's nothing on it!

http://www.wnyc.org/studio360/show112401.html
click on the headphones next to the picture of the J
man to hear the stuido 360 report on him. very good
report, it's what got me interested. features
interviews with Irwin "Love to hate him" Chusid and
Katy Vine.

the cookie crumbles,

D.M.	

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That wine club photo is doing my head in. Possible that Jandek is a wine 
connoisseur - there are a couple of references in the music and of course 
the Later On sleeve. I see a resemblance but don't trust myself... I notice 
the subject is wearing glasses... Clark Kent anyone?

Still drooling at the Jandek/Dead C collaboration fantasy... and Elizabeth 
Kane's black & white Japanese Jandek dream freaked me out a bit as I was 
going to suggest that I think Keiji Haino (Mr. monochrome himself) would 
flip if he heard Jandek (though maybe he has already). I also sometimes 
wonder if John Fahey ever heard him.

Sorry, but don't buy the 56-years-old thing - the Ready for the House vocals 
are IMHO thoseof a very young man, and if the album was released shortly 
after recording, that'd make him around early 40s now. This tallies with 
Katy Vine's article... but then again there's the whole identity 
confusion...
Has anyone ever recieved a Corwood package with a customs declaration signed 
by anyone other than Sterling R Smith? This would suggest that there is more 
than one person involved in Corwood. Also, I think it's the Spin article 
that mentions that Jandek likes to travel - have people ever had to wait for 
several weeks for replies from Corwood?

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>--- Original Message ---
>From: Daniel Marks <alfredggnome@yahoo.com>
>To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
>Date: 8/2/02 4:11:56 AM
>

>
>> 
>> Therefore, using a Jandek image on a T-shirt that
>> isn't approved by the
>> copyright holder is a violation of law, and the
>> person producing them is
>> subject to criminal and civil penalties. Of course,
>> Smith (or his counsel)
>> would have to bring suit, and given his reclusive
>> nature that seems
>> improbable, but those who are responsible for the
>> shirts should realize what
>> they COULD get into. 
>
>i think, however, that this rates on the criminal
>offence scale right up there with making a CD-R of a
>cd you own for a friend

It wouldn't rise to that level - which is the type of piracy
the RIAA dolts claim to be most worried about to justify their
desired cash grabs.  
I mean, with the shirt, you'd be creating a new work in a new
medium based on an item that in and of itself was not created
as a stand-alone work for possible commercial use (as opposed
to bootlegging unreleased versions of songs) that dosen't compete
with any product the Corwood crew makes.  Sure, there is a copyright
violation, but how far it'd get in court, or indeed to what degree
a "fair use" defence could be mounted - T-shirt as journalistic
comment on the Jandek enigma, anyone? - is anyone's guess.  


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Sorry so late, it's been a terribly long week.

This is my Jandek dream from March 9, 2002, straight from my dreambook

Dream about jandek.
So Jandek is a poet in book form. Thick little books with covers like 
his albums. My sisters were fascinated when reading him.
So someho I get embroiled in this concert where he's supposed to 
play. It's out where there are not that many roads but tons of grass 
yet not many trees, but a hill somewhat in this persons backyard. 
Think landscapes in Gregory Crewdson's Hover series. So he gives the 
concert and just before, he hands me this sheet of paper with what 
looks like a setlist, but there'sa title and numbers after each 
title. I try to recopy it for him forsetlist purposes when I realize 
it's actually something else. Somehow I find a best of cover, or I 
think it was a cover for a book of poetry. Selected Poems. That 
wouldcorrespond with the "setlist." So I took that and the setlist. 
Oh, the spine was at the top. I think Jandek was wearing a leather 
jacket with arms outstretched. So I take the three sheets to the 
photocopier. We're still outside. I remember a structure in the 
distance and all, but the photocopier was definitely on the grass. 
Only reason I am photocopying is that I want a record of him having 
been there. Plus I cannot write. I keep stumbling over the words and 
numbers, constantly crossing ou things. Maybe a problem with both 
language and coordination?
So there's also this subplot involving these two women. One of which 
I know. But the one who sis supposedly more evil, black fur coat and 
all, opens a hatch in the back of Jandek's car. I stash a copy of the 
documents in this oven-like stainless steel holding table, also on 
the grass. So in the hatch out comes a tiger, or a lion. Okay, she 
was wearing a tiger striped fur coat. So I was thinking that it was 
good it wasn't a tiger. So, no tiger. But she coddles it, and its 
stretched out to her and jumps (friendly) out to her. Somehow I knew 
that things between them, in the distant future, will get better.
So then I see saucer shaped lights flying above in the sky, tons of 
them, but then I also see strings attached, and run to the other side 
of the vined wall where the woman and tiger were, and there is 
Jandek, playing with strings and spinning plates to create this 
amazing light show of tons of UFO's. You can see every one coming out 
of their bases, if at least for the sheer beauty of it.
I run to get my camera thinking it would look amazing at 28mm 
lanscape in BW. I think, as I'm running back that I can easily burn a 
roll on this. I can't find the roll of film on my desk (it's in my 
pocket) and then I can't find my camera.
And I wake up.

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>I mailed Corwood a letter requesting permission to print shirts two >weeks 
>ago today.  Still no reply.  Ah, well.....

Possibilities:
1) He's on his summer holidays!
2) He's still trying to decide - he probably wouldn't mind in theory, but 
might be worried about his face doing the rounds, despite the unlikeliness 
of anyone he knows seeing it. If this is the case, and he doesn't object to 
covers that don't feature him being used, how can he explain this in the 
classic Corwood idiom? He can't use the first person or refer to the cover 
guy as Jandek.

Speaking of which, try comparing that wine club photo with the lost Cause 
sleeve... hope no-one's gonna e-mail him though. Incidentally, the line "My 
rapture's painted on the floor" from "First You Think Your Fortune's Lovely" 
always struck me as the description of a wine-related mishap (being the 
beverage most frequently referred to in his oeuvre... can't think of another 
besides "love tea").

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Do you think Corwood got permission to put House of the Rising Sun on Blue 
Corpse?
Did they get mad about the mp3s of said album, and many others?

I have a feeling that Sterling would just find it amusing, if he cared at all.

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> 
> I don't read SPIN, so I didn't know he advertised. 
> Still, for myself, I 
> prefer just the picture.  If everybody else who
> wants shirts wants the 
> "Jandek on Corwood" slogan, then we'll go with it,
> but then it goes from art 
> to being advertising, which wasn't really my
> intention.
> 
> Amy

i don't read spin either, i heard about it here. and
even jandek doesn't Just give the picture. he also
gives album titles and song names, even track times.
he's set the precedent for what we can and can't say.
besides, the text would be on the back, and wouldn't
interfere with the picture. just like the albums.

D.M.


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okay people:

the wine club dude is NOT our sterling!!!!

he looks as much like him as a hippo!

c'mon! 

just wanted to claer that,

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I finally found the Jandek section at Amoeba Records in Hollywood. It's in
the 'Experimental' section, about 15 CDs, multiples of Worthless Recluse
(which I picked up) and RFTH, plus a bunch of other of the reissues all
for $6-$9. Popping Interstellar Discussion into the car CD player and
cruising down Vine, it struck me what the electric Jandek reminds me of -
American Indian pow-wow music. Oh what I'd give to hear Janky do, let's
say, 'Running Bear' or the Tiger Lily song from Peter Pan. What about
Sterling Smith AS Peter Pan!? Or maybe Sandy Duncan as Jandek. I don't
know.

GL

p.s. put me down for a t-shirt

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       Hi,
         Eric of Summersteps here.  Sorry for any confusion about the corwood 
photos.  Somehow (I really don't know how), a picture of our resident 
psych-enthusiast Psychatrone Rhonedakk got mixed in with the Corwood Photos.  
It's now been removed.  Sorry for the mixup.  

                                                                            
Thanks,
                                                                             
Eric 
                                                                              
 

http://www.geocities.com/summersteps/corwoodphotosnine.html

look at the picture of the guy (girl?) on this page.
These are some of the photos that corwood gave to
summersteps. Who the hell is that freak? is that the
real jandek? perhaps John, or Eddie?  or maybe it's a
woman, Nancy perahps? aw, screw it, it's probobly just
some bum at the graveyard.

You are a bum when you wear that hat,

D.M.


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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hi,<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Eric of Summersteps here.&nbsp; Sorry for any confusion about the corwood photos.&nbsp; Somehow (I really don't know how), a picture of our resident psych-enthusiast Psychatrone Rhonedakk got mixed in with the Corwood Photos.&nbsp; It's now been removed.&nbsp; Sorry for the mixup.&nbsp; <BR>
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<BR>
http://www.geocities.com/summersteps/corwoodphotosnine.html<BR>
<BR>
look at the picture of the guy (girl?) on this page.<BR>
These are some of the photos that corwood gave to<BR>
summersteps. Who the hell is that freak? is that the<BR>
real jandek? perhaps John, or Eddie?&nbsp; or maybe it's a<BR>
woman, Nancy perahps? aw, screw it, it's probobly just<BR>
some bum at the graveyard.<BR>
<BR>
You are a bum when you wear that hat,<BR>
<BR>
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I like the idea of having a bit of text on the back of the shirt...to
provide minimal context to the photo, and also mimic the design of the
standard Jandek LP.  I hardly see this as "advertising"; it'd be all a bit
too obscure in reference and low-key in execution to qualify methinks (I
mean, it's not like anyone's proposing putting "The Living End" cover on a
shirt with a big "JANDEK!" logo on the front...although that would almost be
worthwile given it's high ranking in the Irony Sweepstakes...


on 8/4/02 11:55 AM, Daniel Marks at alfredggnome@yahoo.com wrote:

> 
>> 
>> I don't read SPIN, so I didn't know he advertised.
>> Still, for myself, I
>> prefer just the picture.  If everybody else who
>> wants shirts wants the
>> "Jandek on Corwood" slogan, then we'll go with it,
>> but then it goes from art
>> to being advertising, which wasn't really my
>> intention.
>> 
>> Amy
> 
> i don't read spin either, i heard about it here. and
> even jandek doesn't Just give the picture. he also
> gives album titles and song names, even track times.
> he's set the precedent for what we can and can't say.
> besides, the text would be on the back, and wouldn't
> interfere with the picture. just like the albums.
> 
> D.M.
> 


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I finally found the Jandek section at Amoeba Records in Hollywood. It's in
the 'Experimental' section, about 15 CDs, multiples of Worthless Recluse
(which I picked up) and RFTH, plus a bunch of other of the reissues all
for $6-$9. Popping Interstellar Discussion into the car CD player and
cruising down Vine, it struck me what the electric Jandek reminds me of -
American Indian pow-wow music. Oh what I'd give to hear Janky do, let's
say, 'Running Bear' or the Tiger Lily song from Peter Pan. What about
Sterling Smith AS Peter Pan!? Or maybe Sandy Duncan as Jandek. I don't
know.

GL

p.s. put me down for a t-shirt

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Please add me for one shirt!




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sorry if i've missed the convo about this, haven't had time to catch up with 
posts, but:

i think it'd be funny if the shirts said "have you seen me?"

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Has anyone seen the fellow on ebay selling Blue Corpse?
He says that Jandek inspired Beck. Is that true? I'm not a fan of Beck
anyway, so I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe it's not.....

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Beck may have cited Jandek in an interview or two to up his quickly-waning hipness factor, but I don't see any direct influence.  When I try to think of younger artists who have surfaced in the last decade or so who owe a debt to jandek, I immediately think of Smog and Will Oldham.  Does that seem off-base?  What are other examples?

And as for wine club Sterling, I stand by my theory that Sterling Smith is a family name and that the two are likely somehow related.

Eli

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> Has anyone seen the fellow on ebay selling Blue Corpse?
> He says that Jandek inspired Beck. Is that true? I'm not a fan of Beck
> anyway, so I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe it's not.....
> 

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the Jandek influence shows up a wee-bit on some of Beck's older, acoustic 
stuff... when he signed his major-label deal, he included a clause allowing 
him to release records on other (independent) labels as well, hence the 
Stereopathic Soulmanure and One Foot In The Grave recordings (the OFITG album 
probably showing the closest thing to a Jandek influence)... tenuous, but if 
he says it's there, I would assume that it is... and I can't see how 
name-dropping Jandek would bring up the hipness factor on anybody... even 
those that search around for his records every time Cobain or Beck or someone 
of that nature mentions Jandek probably never find anything, and those that 
might most likely don't like what they hear (otherwise his sales would have 
spiked a couple of times already, which doesn't seem to be the case)...

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>the Jandek influence shows up a wee-bit on some of Beck's older, acoustic stuff... when he signed his major-label deal, he included a clause allowing him to release records on other (independent) labels as well, hence the Stereopathic Soulmanure and One Foot In The Grave recordings (the OFITG album probably showing the closest thing to a Jandek influence)... tenuous, but if he says it's there, I would assume that it is... and I can't see how name-dropping Jandek would bring up the hipness factor on anybody... even those that search around for his records every time Cobain or Beck or someone of that nature mentions Jandek probably never find anything, and those that might most likely don't like what they hear (otherwise his sales would have spiked a couple of times already, which doesn't seem to be the case)...</FONT></HTML>

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I like Beck.  One song from his old "Western Harvest"
EP called "Lampshade" is pretty Jandekian.  I would
say if he's emulated Jandek in any way, it's
lyrically.

--- Oogsab@aol.com wrote:
> the Jandek influence shows up a wee-bit on some of
> Beck's older, acoustic 
> stuff... when he signed his major-label deal, he
> included a clause allowing 
> him to release records on other (independent) labels
> as well, hence the 
> Stereopathic Soulmanure and One Foot In The Grave
> recordings (the OFITG album 
> probably showing the closest thing to a Jandek
> influence)... tenuous, but if 
> he says it's there, I would assume that it is... and
> I can't see how 
> name-dropping Jandek would bring up the hipness
> factor on anybody... even 
> those that search around for his records every time
> Cobain or Beck or someone 
> of that nature mentions Jandek probably never find
> anything, and those that 
> might most likely don't like what they hear
> (otherwise his sales would have 
> spiked a couple of times already, which doesn't seem
> to be the case)...
> 


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Lyrically, and in the way that he likes to moan/drawl-on a bit sometimes...


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 >i think it'd be funny if the shirts said "have you seen me?"


That's a good one. Another could be in the style of those classic 
"nobody knows I'm gay" tshirts: "nobody knows I'm Jandek" [An actual 
contender?]

A major reason why I'm printing up these "I'm with Jandek" shirts is 
because I'm also going to do a run of "nobody knows I'm a teenager" 
tshirts (and *no* I don't get any discount on doin' two runs at one 
time). Hee-hee...that one should drive the youngsters crazy.

I will be talking to the printer this week and will quote an exact price 
on the Jandek shirt I'll be having made for the group. Pretty sure it'll 
be a ten spot for shirt/airmail delivery.

regards, Judith


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I think I mentioned this before but there was a review of a Beck gig in Mojo 
recently in which he played new songs called "Lost Cause" and "Sleepless 
Nights" (sic). Coincidence? The "White Box Requiem" cover has always 
reminded me of Beck, as does "Long Long" from "I Woke Up".


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Hey Everybody, 

Today I received a small package from Corwood with a copy of the Six and Six 
CD and a handwritten letter granting me permission to reproduce the cover 
photo for a small edition of t-shirts.  

So far, eleven people have expressed interest in a shirt from me, but Judith 
Beeman is also planning to make a shirt, and I don't want to step on 
anybody's toes.  So if you're interested in a gray or black shirt with the 
Six and Six cover on the front and "JANDEK ON CORWOOD" on the back, please 
e-mail me again to confirm before I order the shirts.

Other exciting news:  In the same letter, Corwood also granted me permission 
to make a music video or short film using Jandek's released recordings.  I'll 
keep you informed as plans take shape.

~~Amy

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about the only connection i see is the jandekian album cover of oldham's 
'Days in the Wake'. for another jandekish cover/package, check out the 
Miighty Flashlight album.

jandekly,
-d


>From: <Elijah_Swiney@brown.edu>
>To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
>Subject: Re: jandek =  beck?
>Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:43:41 -0400
>
>Beck may have cited Jandek in an interview or two to up his quickly-waning 
>hipness factor, but I don't see any direct influence.  When I try to think 
>of younger artists who have surfaced in the last decade or so who owe a 
>debt to jandek, I immediately think of Smog and Will Oldham.  Does that 
>seem off-base?  What are other examples?
>
>And as for wine club Sterling, I stand by my theory that Sterling Smith is 
>a family name and that the two are likely somehow related.
>
>Eli
>
> >
> > From: nevermor@francomm.com
> > Date: 2002/08/05 Mon AM 11:43:34 EDT
> > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
> > Subject: jandek =  beck?
> >
> > Has anyone seen the fellow on ebay selling Blue Corpse?
> > He says that Jandek inspired Beck. Is that true? I'm not a fan of Beck
> > anyway, so I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe it's not.....
> >




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naw, i don't like the I'm With Jandek Idea.... but
then i guess i just won't buy that shirt. I'm waiting
for the Six and Six shirt.

Point Judith, c'mon!

D.M.



> 
> A major reason why I'm printing up these "I'm with
> Jandek" shirts is 
> because I'm also going to do a run of "nobody knows
> I'm a teenager" 
> tshirts (and *no* I don't get any discount on doin'
> two runs at one 
> time). Hee-hee...that one should drive the
> youngsters crazy.
> 
> I will be talking to the printer this week and will
> quote an exact price 
> on the Jandek shirt I'll be having made for the
> group. Pretty sure it'll 
> be a ten spot for shirt/airmail delivery.
> 
> regards, Judith
> 


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I think the entire "Arise Therefore" album is obviously hugely Jandek-like.  The subject matter, the lyrical approach, the vocal style, the tone, the style of strumming...it's all straight out of early Jandek.

> 
> From: "dave m." <claptrap@hotmail.com>
> Date: 2002/08/05 Mon PM 04:20:09 EDT
> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
> Subject: Re: jandek /oldham?
> 
> 
> about the only connection i see is the jandekian album cover of oldham's 
> 'Days in the Wake'. for another jandekish cover/package, check out the 
> Miighty Flashlight album.
> 
> jandekly,
> -d
> 
> 
> >From: <Elijah_Swiney@brown.edu>
> >To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
> >Subject: Re: jandek =  beck?
> >Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:43:41 -0400
> >
> >Beck may have cited Jandek in an interview or two to up his quickly-waning 
> >hipness factor, but I don't see any direct influence.  When I try to think 
> >of younger artists who have surfaced in the last decade or so who owe a 
> >debt to jandek, I immediately think of Smog and Will Oldham.  Does that 
> >seem off-base?  What are other examples?
> >
> >And as for wine club Sterling, I stand by my theory that Sterling Smith is 
> >a family name and that the two are likely somehow related.
> >
> >Eli
> >
> > >
> > > From: nevermor@francomm.com
> > > Date: 2002/08/05 Mon AM 11:43:34 EDT
> > > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
> > > Subject: jandek =  beck?
> > >
> > > Has anyone seen the fellow on ebay selling Blue Corpse?
> > > He says that Jandek inspired Beck. Is that true? I'm not a fan of Beck
> > > anyway, so I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe it's not.....
> > >
> 
> 
> 
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Please let us now how this all works out, as I am a video artist and 
would LOVE to give some visuals to Jandek songs (perhaps I should send 
my own letter to him for written permission)...

>Other exciting news:  In the same letter, Corwood also granted me permission 
>to make a music video or short film using Jandek's released recordings.  I'll 
>keep you informed as plans take shape.
>
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im all for the shirts with the picture on front and the album playlist on 
back! and i would love to own one myself! sign me up

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I could be up for a shirt so put me down.

Maybe "FOLLOW YOUR FOOTSTEPS" on a milk carton.

S


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that's awesome! a music video! i'm thinking of all
sorts of things.... if only i had an infinite budget
and the latest cameras and image editing software...

amy, put me down for a grey "jandek on corwood six and
six" t-shirt. by the way, have you or anyone else here
listened to the album? what's it like? i understand
it's pretty much the same thing as RFTH but more
listless.


i just hope i don't lose my shirt,

D.M.





--- AKelly1971@aol.com wrote:
> Hey Everybody, 
> 
> Today I received a small package from Corwood with a
> copy of the Six and Six 
> CD and a handwritten letter granting me permission
> to reproduce the cover 
> photo for a small edition of t-shirts.  
> 
> So far, eleven people have expressed interest in a
> shirt from me, but Judith 
> Beeman is also planning to make a shirt, and I don't
> want to step on 
> anybody's toes.  So if you're interested in a gray
> or black shirt with the 
> Six and Six cover on the front and "JANDEK ON
> CORWOOD" on the back, please 
> e-mail me again to confirm before I order the
> shirts.
> 
> Other exciting news:  In the same letter, Corwood
> also granted me permission 
> to make a music video or short film using Jandek's
> released recordings.  I'll 
> keep you informed as plans take shape.
> 
> ~~Amy


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heh heh, i found a funny thing on the Album New
Town...

on track five, listen closely. he starts to play the
same string over and over, and you can hear him
rustling through his papers, trying to find the lyrics
to the song he's wants to play next. 


a stick would do the trick!

D.M.

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--- NCR13@aol.com wrote:
> Do you think Corwood got permission to put House of
> the Rising Sun on Blue 
> Corpse?

Okay so I've been out of town for two weeks and am now
catching up, and maybe somebody's pointed this out,
but...you do know that there IS no copyright for House
of the Rising Sun?  It's a folk song well over a
hundred years old, with copies arising as early as the
Carter Family stuff.  The famous Animals version was
inspired by Bob Dylan's version, which gets the gender
right (it's a prostitute singing, and is identified as
such).  So Jandek owed no money on it from the get go.

or I may get to a message in a minute that says this,
anyway.

oh well,

Danen


> Did they get mad about the mp3s of said album, and
> many others?
> 
> I have a feeling that Sterling would just find it
> amusing, if he cared at all.


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forced exposure lists blue corpse available on cd. Anyone gotten it? 
Is it deliciously re-mastered?

*daniel

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hello jandek people,

I am compiling material for installation I am planning to do in the
future. Send me rawmaterial: tapes / videos / photos. It can be
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I will heavily manipulate received material, cut it, use it in videos, put 
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also I am looking for a native english speaker person to read my text
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Contact me privately and i'll give more info:
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> hello jandek people,
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> found from the street, anything... It's an experiment, it's a 
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> 'everyday life' / memories... There isn't a complete picture 
> in my head of 
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> piece, with found 
> and received video footage / sounds and text.
> 
> I will heavily manipulate received material, cut it, use it 
> in videos, put 
> it in gallery, maybe release out it on a record... If i use 
> your material 
> you will be credited of course and i will send some sort of 
> documentation of 
> the work when it's finished.
> 
> also I am looking for a native english speaker person to read my text
> on minidisc and send it to me. I will use the speech on a video piece.
> 
> Contact me privately and i'll give more info:
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