Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 29751 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 05:18:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 22659 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 02:47:07 -0000 Received: from relay1.pair.com (HELO relay.pair.com) (209.68.1.20) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 02:47:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 94280 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 02:47:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?12.240.31.158?) (12.240.31.158) by relay1.pair.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 02:47:06 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 12.240.31.158 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.4 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:47:05 -0700 Subject: Re: Jandek's age From: Ian Kasley To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20020801013421.91513.qmail@web13202.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk on 7/31/02 6:34 PM, Michael Brooker at hirakemike@yahoo.com wrote: > This information can be obtained from the Copyright > Info main website. Also, Sterlings middle name is > Richard. > > mb Here's the link... http://www.loc.gov/copyright/ -ian Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15399 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 14:25:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 30313 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 05:23:08 -0000 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.106) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 05:23:08 -0000 Received: from LiLiPUT1@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id l.61.238656ca (4330) for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:22:38 -0400 (EDT) From: LiLiPUT1@aol.com Message-ID: <61.238656ca.2a7a1f9d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:22:37 EDT Subject: Dreams To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 29 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk My Jandek Dream I was looking through Houston phone books on microfilm at my university library for any information on Corwood or Sterling (which really happened but...) when Jandek (i.e. the guy on the covers) came up to me and yelled "Stop doing research on me!" and ran out of the building. It was terrifying. Kevin John Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15864 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 14:29:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 12362 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 12:40:13 -0000 Received: from cha?inet?1.thecha.org (207.79.176.2) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 12:40:13 -0000 Received: by cha_inet_1.thecha.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:41:20 -0500 Message-ID: <501208D84965D211A3CF00805FEA1826E37E8F@CHA_LEGAL> From: "Epke, Larry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: RE: Jandek's age Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:33:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Cool. What was the source of this information? Larry Epke Lepke@thecha.org "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." - T. Jefferson -----Original Message----- From: Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com [SMTP:Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:31 PM To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Jandek's age >Off topic, how old does everyone think Jandek is? My posts must not be getting thru: Jandek aka Sterling R. Smith, owner of Corwood Industries, Houston, TX, has a DOB of 10/26/1945, which makes him (gasp!) 56 years old. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18089 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 14:39:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 17740 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 14:32:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gatekeeper1.nytimes.com) (199.181.175.210) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 14:32:03 -0000 Received: from mailhub3.nytimes.com (smtp-hub.nytimes.com [170.149.204.45]) by gatekeeper1.nytimes.com (Switch-2.2.2/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id g71EVa715853 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from notesgate3.nytimes.com (notesgate3.nytimes.com [170.149.204.43]) by mailhub3.nytimes.com (Switch-2.2.2/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id g71EUQV27363 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from corp-mail-03.ssc.nytimes.com ([206.113.41.244]) by notesgate3.nytimes.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 2002080110263774:2321417 ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:26:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Jandek's age To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:20:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CORP-MAIL-03/CORPHQ/NYTIMES(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/01/2002 10:20:12 AM, Itemize by SMTP Server on NOTESGATE3/NYT/NYTIMES(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/01/2002 10:26:37 AM, Serialize by Router on NOTESGATE3/NYT/NYTIMES(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/01/2002 10:32:45 AM, Serialize complete at 08/01/2002 10:32:45 AM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I'm a newspaper reporter, finding folks who don't want to be found is part of the job. Michael Brooker @cs.northwestern.edu on 07/31/2002 09:34:21 PM Sent by: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu cc: Subject: Re: Jandek's age This information can be obtained from the Copyright Info main website. Also, Sterlings middle name is Richard. mb --- AKelly1971@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/31/02 5:37:59 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, > Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com writes: > > > My posts must not be getting thru: Jandek aka > Sterling R. Smith, owner of > > Corwood Industries, Houston, TX, has a DOB of > 10/26/1945, which makes him > > (gasp!) 56 years old. > > Hey Chris, where do you get your information? ~Amy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18233 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 14:39:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 14407 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 13:57:30 -0000 Received: from exchange.ljx.com (HELO mail02.ljextra.com) (208.3.165.71) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 13:57:30 -0000 Received: by ALM-MAIL-1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:57:04 -0400 Message-ID: <988631CF8A1FD511B5B40008C7F36CCD026D9B96@ALM-MAIL-1> From: Tim Kelly To: "'Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com'" , jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: RE: Jandek's age Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:57:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C23963.50557AC0" Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23963.50557AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm 33, just so you know! Peace, Tim http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/timkelly19/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com > [mailto:Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:31 PM > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > Subject: Jandek's age > > > >Off topic, how old does everyone think Jandek is? > > My posts must not be getting thru: Jandek aka Sterling R. > Smith, owner of > Corwood Industries, Houston, TX, has a DOB of 10/26/1945, > which makes him > (gasp!) 56 years old. > > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23963.50557AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Jandek's age

I'm 33, just so you know!
Peace, Tim
http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/timkelly19/

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C23963.50557AC0-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 2016 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 15:20:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 1286 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 10:14:31 -0000 Received: from web14802.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.224.218) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 10:14:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20020801150829.17304.qmail@web14802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.164.248] by web14802.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 08:08:29 PDT Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:08:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: mystery adrogenous poerson! To: jandek MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk http://www.geocities.com/summersteps/corwoodphotosnine.html look at the picture of the guy (girl?) on this page. These are some of the photos that corwood gave to summersteps. Who the hell is that freak? is that the real jandek? perhaps John, or Eddie? or maybe it's a woman, Nancy perahps? aw, screw it, it's probobly just some bum at the graveyard. You are a bum when you wear that hat, D.M. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4560 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 16:08:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 4387 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 16:04:04 -0000 Received: from f128.law3.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.241.128) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 16:04:04 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:03:31 -0700 Received: from 12.110.192.128 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:03:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.110.192.128] From: "dave m." To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: mystery adrogenous poerson! Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:03:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 16:03:31.0480 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB4B4980:01C23974] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Sorry, this site is temporarily unavailable! The web site you are trying to access has exceeded its allocated data transfer. Visit our help area for more information. Access to this site will be restored within an hour. Please try again later. http://www.geocities.com/summersteps/corwoodphotosnine.html DAMN GEOCITIES! >From: Daniel Marks >To: jandek >Subject: mystery adrogenous poerson! >Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:08:29 -0700 (PDT) > >http://www.geocities.com/summersteps/corwoodphotosnine.html > >look at the picture of the guy (girl?) on this page. >These are some of the photos that corwood gave to >summersteps. Who the hell is that freak? is that the >real jandek? perhaps John, or Eddie? or maybe it's a >woman, Nancy perahps? aw, screw it, it's probobly just >some bum at the graveyard. > >You are a bum when you wear that hat, > >D.M. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >http://health.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 6696 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 16:50:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 6623 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 16:49:45 -0000 Received: from web14804.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.224.220) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 16:49:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20020801150243.59988.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.164.248] by web14804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 08:02:43 PDT Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:02:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk here's the copyright info for "Later On" 1. Registration Number: SR-35-283 Title: Later on / [performed by] aJandek. Imprint: Corwood LP 0741, c1981. Description: 1 sound disc : 33 1/3 rpm, stereo. ; 12 in. Claimant: Sterling Richard Smith Name in © Notice: notice: Corwood Industries Created: 1981 Published: 22Dec81 Registered: 25May82 Author on © Application: sound recording: Sterling Richard Smith. Contents: Your condition. What did I hear? Just whisper. Oh, Jenny. Until then. So fly, Max. The Janitor. Don't know if I care. John came. Jessica. Jackson's gone down the Mississippi. The Second end. Special Codes: 7/U Sterling (or shall we call him Dick?) has registered nearly all of his albums with the copyright bureau. Note that it says "aJandek" what does that mean? I know seth said it means gift in hungarian... ,maybe he had the right idea. Or perhaps it means something else. 'a' could be for artist. Interesting, though. He hasn't registered Ready for the House. If we're gonna make T-Shirts, we should make those of the covers that haven't been copyrighted, or just ask him. They'd have the cover on the front, and on the back it would say "Jandek on Corwood" So the best two covers that we could get way with are RFTH and White Box. But the question is: would we Glad to Get Away with it? Perhaps it is better to ask him. Still, the T-Shirt is a great Idea. I swear, If the dude had been around in the late sixties, You Walk Alone would have been recognised as a classic of that era. Imagine, Jandek at woodstock. He'd fit in perfectly with that crowd. Or he'd join a band: Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, and Jandek. Or maybe not. When it started to rain, he could have sung "Rain in Madison." Now there's a crazy dream for you! Here's another one: Sterling is the Guest Speaker at a university music class, giving a lecture on Pentatonic Refractive Disonence! but he does it the whole time behind a stiff cotton sheet. Or, we suddenly travel to the late-mid 21st century, where Jandek-like music is the hottest new style among youth, and he is regognised as a Pioneer of Modern music, like some kind of experimentalist Robert Johnson. And then, given inflation and his new popularity, we sell our collections for over 450,000 dollars an album, and subsequently become immensly wealthy, all of us retiring to--houston, where we spend the rest of our days saying "Well, I was caught on to the whole Jandek deal waaaay before anyone else. We all knew he was a genius the minute we heard that stuff." on 'Behind the Music.' As for the documentary, well, it too is regonised as a visionary film. Rock and Roll! You're just somebody in the snow, D.M. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 17036 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 19:17:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 16874 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 19:13:22 -0000 Received: from cha?inet?1.thecha.org (207.79.176.2) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 19:13:22 -0000 Received: by cha_inet_1.thecha.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:14:36 -0500 Message-ID: <501208D84965D211A3CF00805FEA1826E37EA7@CHA_LEGAL> From: "Epke, Larry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: FW: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:06:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Epke's 199 th dream: Smith at SXSW in a duet Roky Erickson! (I'll bet Sonic Youth would DIE = to appear with them.)=20 Given that Smith has been willing to enter into (limited) = correspondence with some fans and some on this list, I think asking his permission for = the t-shirts is the moral thing to do. I wouldn't think such would impinge = on his privacy if the shirts featured pictures that aren't recognizable. = Thus "Ready for the House," "One Foot in the North" or "Telegraph Melts" = would be good choices. I like the "One Foot" or "Telegraph" pictures, since they feature him in some way, but are totally impossible to identify (as = opposed to "Worthless Recluse," "Lost Cause," "The Living End" or "Six and Six" which are identifiable, if the person who saw them knew Smith in some = other context). "Ready for the House" has the historical position of being = the first recording, so I think that's a reasonable choice too. (And one = can recognize the objects in the picture, though it's a pretty unremarkable shot.) I wouldn't want a cover that's TOO obscure, like "Living in a = Moon so Blue," "The Rocks Crumble" or "On the Way." People who are not fully = into Jandek might not even recognize those covers, even if they know some of = the others.=20 Perhaps the best way to get his cooperation might be just to do all the legwork, such as getting the designs prepared and the printer lined up = and just present him with a fait accompli.=20 If he won't cooperate, I guess one could still go ahead with the plan, waiting for Smith to sue or ignore us. But if he doesn't want anyone to = do this, I'd probably not buy one out of respect for his wishes.=20 (My apologies to Daniel Marks. I accidentally sent this only to him = while attempting to send it to the entire group.)=20 Larry Epke=20 Lepke@thecha.org =20 "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably = the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, = it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to = provide new guards for their future security." - T. Jefferson=20 -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Marks [SMTP:alfredggnome@yahoo.com] =20 Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:03 AM To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu =20 Subject: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams here's the copyright info for "Later On" 1. Registration Number: SR-35-283 =20 Title: Later on / [performed by] aJandek.=20 Imprint: Corwood LP 0741, c1981.=20 Description: 1 sound disc : 33 1/3 rpm, stereo. ; 12 in.=20 Claimant: Sterling Richard Smith=20 Name in =A9 Notice: notice: Corwood Industries=20 Created: 1981=20 =20 Published: 22Dec81=20 =20 Registered: 25May82 =20 Author on =A9 Application: sound recording: Sterling Richard Smith.=20 Contents: Your condition. What did I hear? Just whisper. Oh, Jenny. Until then. So fly, Max. The Janitor. Don't know if I care. John came. Jessica. Jackson's gone down the Mississippi. The Second end.=20 Special Codes: 7/U=20 Sterling (or shall we call him Dick?) has registered nearly all of his albums with the copyright bureau. Note that it says "aJandek" what does that mean? I know seth said it means gift in hungarian... ,maybe he had the right idea. Or perhaps it means something else. 'a' could be for artist. Interesting, though. He hasn't registered Ready for the House.=20 If we're gonna make T-Shirts, we should make those of the covers that haven't been copyrighted, or just ask him. They'd have the cover on the front, and on the back it would say "Jandek on Corwood" So the best two covers that we could get way with are RFTH and White Box. But the question is: would we Glad to Get Away with it? Perhaps it is better to ask him. Still, the T-Shirt is a great Idea.=20 I swear, If the dude had been around in the late sixties, You Walk Alone would have been recognised as a classic of that era. Imagine, Jandek at woodstock. He'd fit in perfectly with that crowd. Or he'd join a band: Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, and Jandek. Or maybe not. When it started to rain, he could have sung "Rain in Madison." Now there's a crazy dream for you!=20 Here's another one: Sterling is the Guest Speaker at a university music class, giving a lecture on Pentatonic Refractive Disonence! but he does it the whole time behind a stiff cotton sheet.=20 Or, we suddenly travel to the late-mid 21st century, where Jandek-like music is the hottest new style among youth, and he is regognised as a Pioneer of Modern music, like some kind of experimentalist Robert Johnson. And then, given inflation and his new popularity, we sell our collections for over 450,000 dollars an album, and subsequently become immensly wealthy, all of us retiring to--houston, where we spend the rest of our days saying "Well, I was caught on to the whole Jandek deal waaaay before anyone else. We all knew he was a genius the minute we heard that stuff." on 'Behind the Music.' As for the documentary, well, it too is regonised as a visionary film. Rock and Roll! You're just somebody in the snow, D.M. =09 Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 17753 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 19:27:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 17672 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 19:25:22 -0000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.39) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 19:25:22 -0000 Received: from Oogsab@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id l.a.22d56b36 (2519) for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:24:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Oogsab@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:24:45 EDT Subject: Re: FW: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a.22d56b36.2a7ae4fd_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_a.22d56b36.2a7ae4fd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit looks like he does more than the Dave & Buster's stuff... Smith Sterling Corp. 4326A Scotland Houston, TX 77007 Sterling Richard Smith, owner --part1_a.22d56b36.2a7ae4fd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit looks like he does more than the Dave & Buster's stuff...

Smith Sterling Corp.
4326A Scotland
Houston, TX  77007
Sterling Richard Smith, owner
--part1_a.22d56b36.2a7ae4fd_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18490 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 19:37:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 18396 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 19:34:59 -0000 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (64.12.136.5) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 19:34:59 -0000 Received: from AKelly1971@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id g.166.118972a0 (25917); Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:34:19 -0400 (EDT) From: AKelly1971@aol.com Message-ID: <166.118972a0.2a7ae73b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:34:19 EDT Subject: Re: FW: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams To: LEpke@thecha.org, jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I mailed Corwood a letter requesting permission to print shirts two weeks ago today. Still no reply. Ah, well..... Amy Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19453 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 19:52:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 19238 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 19:48:44 -0000 Received: from relay1.pair.com (HELO relay.pair.com) (209.68.1.20) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 19:48:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 56203 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 19:48:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?12.240.31.158?) (12.240.31.158) by relay1.pair.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 19:48:44 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 12.240.31.158 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.4 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:48:44 -0700 Subject: Re: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams From: Ian Kasley To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk on 8/1/02 12:24 PM, Oogsab@aol.com at Oogsab@aol.com wrote: > looks like he does more than the Dave & Buster's stuff... > > Smith Sterling Corp. > 4326A Scotland > Houston, TX 77007 > Sterling Richard Smith, owner Hmmm... http://www.futuresmag.com/library/sourcebook/firms-s.html Also maybe of interest... http://www.bus.utexas.edu/students/gbwc/ -ian Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19576 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 19:52:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19351 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 19:49:51 -0000 Received: from gatekeeper2.nytimes.com (199.181.175.211) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 19:49:51 -0000 Received: from mailhub3.nytimes.com (smtp-hub.nytimes.com [170.149.204.45]) by gatekeeper2.nytimes.com (Switch-2.2.2/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id g71JnKb05468 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from notesgate3.nytimes.com (notesgate3.nytimes.com [170.149.204.43]) by mailhub3.nytimes.com (Switch-2.2.2/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id g71JmGV25296 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from corp-mail-03.ssc.nytimes.com ([206.113.41.244]) by notesgate3.nytimes.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 2002080115404943:2330981 ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:40:49 -0400 Subject: Re: FW: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:34:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CORP-MAIL-03/CORPHQ/NYTIMES(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/01/2002 03:34:23 PM, Itemize by SMTP Server on NOTESGATE3/NYT/NYTIMES(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/01/2002 03:40:49 PM, Serialize by Router on NOTESGATE3/NYT/NYTIMES(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/01/2002 03:50:35 PM, Serialize complete at 08/01/2002 03:50:35 PM Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Nah, just make up the T-shirts anyway and mail the profits to Corwood, = no return address. An art act worthy of Jandek, methinks. "Epke, Larry" @cs.northwestern.edu on 08/01/2002 03:0= 6:30 PM Sent by: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu cc: Subject: FW: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams Epke's 199 th dream: Smith at SXSW in a duet Roky Erickson! (I'll bet Sonic Youth would DIE = to appear with them.) Given that Smith has been willing to enter into (limited) correspondenc= e with some fans and some on this list, I think asking his permission for= the t-shirts is the moral thing to do. I wouldn't think such would impinge = on his privacy if the shirts featured pictures that aren't recognizable. T= hus "Ready for the House," "One Foot in the North" or "Telegraph Melts" wou= ld be good choices. I like the "One Foot" or "Telegraph" pictures, since they= feature him in some way, but are totally impossible to identify (as opp= osed to "Worthless Recluse," "Lost Cause," "The Living End" or "Six and Six"= which are identifiable, if the person who saw them knew Smith in some o= ther context). "Ready for the House" has the historical position of being th= e first recording, so I think that's a reasonable choice too. (And one ca= n recognize the objects in the picture, though it's a pretty unremarkable= shot.) I wouldn't want a cover that's TOO obscure, like "Living in a Mo= on so Blue," "The Rocks Crumble" or "On the Way." People who are not fully in= to Jandek might not even recognize those covers, even if they know some of= the others. Perhaps the best way to get his cooperation might be just to do all the= legwork, such as getting the designs prepared and the printer lined up = and just present him with a fait accompli. If he won't cooperate, I guess one could still go ahead with the plan, waiting for Smith to sue or ignore us. But if he doesn't want anyone to= do this, I'd probably not buy one out of respect for his wishes. (My apologies to Daniel Marks. I accidentally sent this only to him whi= le attempting to send it to the entire group.) Larry Epke Lepke@thecha.org "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably t= he same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, = it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to pro= vide new guards for their future security." - T. Jefferson -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Marks [SMTP:alfredggnome@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:03 AM To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams here's the copyright info for "Later On" 1. Registration Number: SR-35-283 Title: Later on / [performed by] aJandek. Imprint: Corwood LP 0741, c1981. Description: 1 sound disc : 33 1/3 rpm, stereo. ; 12 in. Claimant: Sterling Richard Smith Name in =A9 Notice: notice: Corwood Industries Created: 1981 Published: 22Dec81 Registered: 25May82 Author on =A9 Application: sound recording: Sterling Richard Smith. Contents: Your condition. What did I hear? Just whisper. Oh, Jenny. Until then. So fly, Max. The Janitor. Don't know if I care. John came. Jessica. Jackson's gone down the Mississippi. The Second end. Special Codes: 7/U Sterling (or shall we call him Dick?) has registered nearly all of his albums with the copyright bureau. Note that it says "aJandek" what does that mean? I know seth said it means gift in hungarian... ,maybe he had the right idea. Or perhaps it means something else. 'a' could be for artist. Interesting, though. He hasn't registered Ready for the House. If we're gonna make T-Shirts, we should make those of the covers that haven't been copyrighted, or just ask him. They'd have the cover on the front, and on the back it would say "Jandek on Corwood" So the best two covers that we could get way with are RFTH and White Box. But the question is: would we Glad to Get Away with it? Perhaps it is better to ask him. Still, the T-Shirt is a great Idea. I swear, If the dude had been around in the late sixties, You Walk Alone would have been recognised as a classic of that era. Imagine, Jandek at woodstock. He'd fit in perfectly with that crowd. Or he'd join a band: Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, and Jandek. Or maybe not. When it started to rain, he could have sung "Rain in Madison." Now there's a crazy dream for you! Here's another one: Sterling is the Guest Speaker at a university music class, giving a lecture on Pentatonic Refractive Disonence! but he does it the whole time behind a stiff cotton sheet. Or, we suddenly travel to the late-mid 21st century, where Jandek-like music is the hottest new style among youth, and he is regognised as a Pioneer of Modern music, like some kind of experimentalist Robert Johnson. And then, given inflation and his new popularity, we sell our collections for over 450,000 dollars an album, and subsequently become immensly wealthy, all of us retiring to--houston, where we spend the rest of our days saying "Well, I was caught on to the whole Jandek deal waaaay before anyone else. We all knew he was a genius the minute we heard that stuff." on 'Behind the Music.' As for the documentary, well, it too is regonised as a visionary film. Rock and Roll! You're just somebody in the snow, D.M. = Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 21115 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 20:08:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 20276 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 19:55:30 -0000 Received: from cha?inet?1.thecha.org (207.79.176.2) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 19:55:30 -0000 Received: by cha_inet_1.thecha.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: <501208D84965D211A3CF00805FEA1826E37EAC@CHA_LEGAL> From: "Epke, Larry" To: Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com, jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: RE: FW: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:48:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Well, I rather like that idea too! Larry Epke Lepke@thecha.org "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." - T. Jefferson -----Original Message----- From: Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com [SMTP:Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:34 PM To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: FW: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams Nah, just make up the T-shirts anyway and mail the profits to Corwood, no return address. An art act worthy of Jandek, methinks. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 21208 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 20:08:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 20707 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 20:01:03 -0000 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.104) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 20:01:03 -0000 Received: from AKelly1971@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id 4.c8.2abe47bd (3874); Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:00:28 -0400 (EDT) From: AKelly1971@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:00:28 EDT Subject: Re: FW: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams To: Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com, jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk In a message dated 8/1/02 3:53:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com writes: > Nah, just make up the T-shirts anyway and mail the profits to Corwood, no > return address. An art act worthy of Jandek, methinks. No can do -- there will be no profits. I'm selling the shirts at cost, if and only if Corwood gives me permission to reproduce the image. Nice idea, though. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22893 invoked by uid 1029); 1 Aug 2002 20:29:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20020801202957.22892.qmail@cs.northwestern.edu> Received: (qmail 22760 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 20:28:15 -0000 Received: from barrington.services.brown.edu (128.148.19.62) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 20:28:15 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.brown.edu ([128.148.19.202]) by barrington.services.brown.edu (NAVGW 2.5.2.9) with SMTP id M2002080116225111513 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:22:51 -0400 X-Priority: Sensitivity: Company-Confidential From: To: Subject: Re: Re: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:22:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Comparing pictures of the Sterling Smith in the Graduate Business Wine Club and Jandek album cover pictures is interesting. Wine Club Sterling and Jandek definitely have very smilar head shapes...oblong and very ovular. However, the ages (Wine Club picture vs. Jandek's age as discussed here) and comparative physical fitness seem to make pretty clear that it's not the same guy. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the two men were related, which would make Sterling Smith a family name. That'd explain its ubiquity. Am I just seeing things when it comes to the visual similarity, though? Let me know. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3507 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 02:16:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 3453 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 02:15:09 -0000 Received: from web14801.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.224.217) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 02:15:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20020802021504.62068.qmail@web14801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.160.236] by web14801.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:15:04 PDT Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:15:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: dave and buster??? To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk there's a Sterling R. Smith who works a Dave and Busters' of dallas, in the investor realtions division...... Jandek spelled Backwards is Kednaj, D.M. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3964 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 02:19:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 3337 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 02:11:10 -0000 Received: from clueponbook.nasc.inter.net (HELO app1.nasc.inter.net) (203.176.60.253) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 02:11:10 -0000 Received: from ip3-172.eyrkonaeac02.dialup.ca.telus.com ([209.29.88.172]) by app1.nasc.inter.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17aRtq-0002h0-00 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:10:43 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:11:21 -0400 Subject: Re: Copyrights, tshirts From: "Sam M." To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20020801150243.59988.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk > If we're gonna make T-Shirts, we should make those of > the covers that haven't been copyrighted, or just ask > him. They'd have the cover on the front, and on the > back it would say "Jandek on Corwood" So the best two > covers that we could get way with are RFTH and White > Box. But the question is: would we Glad to Get Away > with it? Perhaps it is better to ask him. Still, the > T-Shirt is a great Idea. I like: Light grey t-shirt; "Six on Six" cover on the front, nicely blended in with the shirt coloring; "Jandek on Corwood" on the back in the appropriate font. Yeah baby, YEAH! Also, what would copyright matter in the context you'd mentioned it in with respect to the albums? Doesn't that apply only to the songs, and not the covers? Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4764 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 02:31:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2885 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 02:01:50 -0000 Received: from clueponbook.nasc.inter.net (HELO app3.nasc.inter.net) (203.176.60.253) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 02:01:50 -0000 Received: from ip4-58.vancbccqac02.dialup.ca.telus.com ([209.121.27.58] helo=istar.ca) by app3.nasc.inter.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17aRkk-0006qC-00 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:01:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3D49E69D.1050402@istar.ca> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:55:41 -0700 From: judith beeman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: wine clubbing and let's do up some shirts! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk > http://www.bus.utexas.edu/students/gbwc/ Nah, way too young -- I find it quite easy to believe Jandek is 56 years old. And 56 doesn't seem really *that* ancient to me these days, having turned "jack benny's age" this year. I find the older I get my thoughts on aging change. Dang, those are great pics of the wine club! And as far as those tshirts I'd like to point out that I live in Vancouver, BC and have had tshirts printed up before for a fairly good paice. If I get at least 20 it would be about $7.00 each for Hanes Beefy Tee's black on white one sided (plus a one time $20.00 setup fee). I personally really liked the "I'm with Jandek" idea. I really doubt that Jandek is going to respond to the request for permission to do up shirts (as noble a gesture as that was). SO...ahem, if enough people were interested in getting shirts (that would be at least 15 individual shirts) I would go ahead and get them made. I would charge US equivalent to the CDN charges for the total amount of the printing and shipping (air mail postage/envelopes). I imagine this would be about $10.00 US per shirt in total. Would the original "I'm with Jandek" designer please contact me? Also, if anyone would like to get rolling on this and would like that design please contact me as well. If there's interest I'd love to do this. Regards, Judith Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5381 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 02:36:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 5198 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 02:33:32 -0000 Received: from lion.esosoft.net (206.142.247.12) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 02:33:32 -0000 Received: from cs6668119-101.austin.rr.com ([66.68.119.101] helo=exitproductions) by lion.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17aSMu-0004f7-00 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:40:45 -0400 From: "Ben Londa" To: Subject: RE: wine clubbing and let's do up some shirts! Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:35:29 -0500 Message-ID: <001901c239cd$44573500$65774442@exitproductions> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3D49E69D.1050402@istar.ca> Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk > SO...ahem, if enough people were interested in getting shirts (that > would be at least 15 individual shirts) I would go ahead and get them > made. I would charge US equivalent to the CDN charges for the total > amount of the printing and shipping (air mail postage/envelopes). I > imagine this would be about $10.00 US per shirt in total. > > Would the original "I'm with Jandek" designer please contact me? > That'd be me... "I'm with Jandek" person, that is.. I think the price and shirt idea overall is a great idea.. ben Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7003 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 03:14:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29781 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2002 23:14:05 -0000 Received: from f156.law7.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.156) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 23:14:05 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:13:39 -0700 Received: from 209.91.129.183 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 23:13:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.91.129.183] From: "Darin Mitchell" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Copyrights, tshirts, made-up-dreams Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 23:13:39 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 23:13:39.0379 (UTC) FILETIME=[12002830:01C239B1] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >4326A Scotland, Houston, TX 77007; (713) 861-6500 When Mr. Smith called my house last year, I had the operator tell me where the call originated from and it came from that street address. Interesting. Although, I do believe the house (#) was different. I'll have to check. DM. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9068 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 04:07:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 8961 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 04:05:52 -0000 Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (64.12.136.164) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 04:05:52 -0000 Received: from AKelly1971@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id 7.8d.1c075c9a (3874); Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:05:44 -0400 (EDT) From: AKelly1971@aol.com Message-ID: <8d.1c075c9a.2a7b5f18@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:05:44 EDT Subject: Re: wine clubbing and let's do up some shirts! To: beeman@istar.ca, jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk It was my suggestion to do the Six and Six shirts about a month ago. I have a friend who will silkscreen the shirts for free, and the cost of the shirts is $4 each. So before we start flooding the market for Jandek shirts, let's figure out which design is most popular and get it done, hopefully with Corwood's blessing. That's my two cents, anyway. Peace, Amy Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14494 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 06:11:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20020802061155.14493.qmail@cs.northwestern.edu> Received: (qmail 13983 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 05:58:44 -0000 Received: from liquid.colo.hosteurope.com (HELO mail.liquidinformation.com) (217.199.168.209) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 05:58:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 3235 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 05:58:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO liquidinformation.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 05:58:16 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 06:58:16 +0100 (BST) From: "Elizabeth Kane" Subject: Re: Jandek dreams To: chris.grier@heraldtribune.com, jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk my only jandek dream was on my 26th birthday and is here in my dream log: http://www.angelfire.com/space/spectra/dreams/dreams3.html Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 673 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 15:15:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 28889 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 13:23:20 -0000 Received: from cha?inet?1.thecha.org (207.79.176.2) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 13:23:20 -0000 Received: by cha_inet_1.thecha.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:24:51 -0500 Message-ID: <501208D84965D211A3CF00805FEA1826E37EBB@CHA_LEGAL> From: "Epke, Larry" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: RE: Copyrights, tshirts Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:15:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Smith certainly could have copyrighted the images as well as the songs. At one time, one had to send a form to register a creative work for copyright, but the law is now such that creating any work gives the copyright, without further action. (That's been the law since 1978, so all of Jandek's work is covered.) Therefore, using a Jandek image on a T-shirt that isn't approved by the copyright holder is a violation of law, and the person producing them is subject to criminal and civil penalties. Of course, Smith (or his counsel) would have to bring suit, and given his reclusive nature that seems improbable, but those who are responsible for the shirts should realize what they COULD get into. Larry Epke Lepke@thecha.org "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." - T. Jefferson -----Original Message----- From: Sam M. [SMTP:smathesn@istar.ca] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:11 PM To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Copyrights, tshirts > If we're gonna make T-Shirts, we should make those of > the covers that haven't been copyrighted, or just ask > him. They'd have the cover on the front, and on the > back it would say "Jandek on Corwood" So the best two > covers that we could get way with are RFTH and White > Box. But the question is: would we Glad to Get Away > with it? Perhaps it is better to ask him. Still, the > T-Shirt is a great Idea. I like: Light grey t-shirt; "Six on Six" cover on the front, nicely blended in with the shirt coloring; "Jandek on Corwood" on the back in the appropriate font. Yeah baby, YEAH! Also, what would copyright matter in the context you'd mentioned it in with respect to the albums? Doesn't that apply only to the songs, and not the covers? Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7739 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 16:59:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 7671 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 16:58:50 -0000 Received: from web14807.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.224.223) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 16:58:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20020802165850.10789.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.162.110] by web14807.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 09:58:50 PDT Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Copyrights, tshirts To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Right On! I like the Six and Six idea a lot. I prefer that cover to the living end, although both would work. So the person from BC who said she could make up the t shirts, could perhaps make both her design and ours. I don't like the "i'm with jandek" idea as much as the jandek on corwood shirt, although a good one would be "I visited PO Box 15375 in Houston and all i got was this lousy t shirt" or "you are a jandek fan when you wear this shirt" did you know that jandek is a regular on Dr. Demento's audio torture chamber? it said a cow gave poison milk, D.M. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 8856 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 17:14:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 8727 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 17:11:56 -0000 Received: from web14802.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.224.218) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 17:11:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20020802171156.5141.qmail@web14802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.162.110] by web14802.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:11:56 PDT Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:11:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: RE: Copyrights, tshirts To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <501208D84965D211A3CF00805FEA1826E37EBB@CHA_LEGAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk > > Therefore, using a Jandek image on a T-shirt that > isn't approved by the > copyright holder is a violation of law, and the > person producing them is > subject to criminal and civil penalties. Of course, > Smith (or his counsel) > would have to bring suit, and given his reclusive > nature that seems > improbable, but those who are responsible for the > shirts should realize what > they COULD get into. i think, however, that this rates on the criminal offence scale right up there with making a CD-R of a cd you own for a friend. Plus it's free advertising for corwood. Imagine, you're strollin' down the street, and some fine citizen comes up to you and says "my who is that badass rocker?" and you reply, "'tis jandek, fine sir, the greatest musician ever to use a four-track!" bingo! another potential fan! i want a t-shirt! got a couple links here.... www.zombo.com very jandek-y site. you can do anything, but there's nothing on it! http://www.wnyc.org/studio360/show112401.html click on the headphones next to the picture of the J man to hear the stuido 360 report on him. very good report, it's what got me interested. features interviews with Irwin "Love to hate him" Chusid and Katy Vine. the cookie crumbles, D.M. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 13751 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 19:11:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 13707 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 19:10:13 -0000 Received: from f52.pav1.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.31.52) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 19:10:13 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:09:46 -0700 Received: from 213.105.178.133 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 19:09:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.178.133] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Jandek: superhero? Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 19:09:46 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 19:09:46.0710 (UTC) FILETIME=[2AA9CF60:01C23A58] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk That wine club photo is doing my head in. Possible that Jandek is a wine connoisseur - there are a couple of references in the music and of course the Later On sleeve. I see a resemblance but don't trust myself... I notice the subject is wearing glasses... Clark Kent anyone? Still drooling at the Jandek/Dead C collaboration fantasy... and Elizabeth Kane's black & white Japanese Jandek dream freaked me out a bit as I was going to suggest that I think Keiji Haino (Mr. monochrome himself) would flip if he heard Jandek (though maybe he has already). I also sometimes wonder if John Fahey ever heard him. Sorry, but don't buy the 56-years-old thing - the Ready for the House vocals are IMHO thoseof a very young man, and if the album was released shortly after recording, that'd make him around early 40s now. This tallies with Katy Vine's article... but then again there's the whole identity confusion... Has anyone ever recieved a Corwood package with a customs declaration signed by anyone other than Sterling R Smith? This would suggest that there is more than one person involved in Corwood. Also, I think it's the Spin article that mentions that Jandek likes to travel - have people ever had to wait for several weeks for replies from Corwood? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22103 invoked by uid 1029); 2 Aug 2002 22:12:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 15002 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 19:32:41 -0000 Received: from i2i2mail.mailstart.com (HELO mail.mailstart.com) (207.231.76.102) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 19:32:41 -0000 Received: from muave [207.231.76.117] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AE58B420092; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 12:32:40 -0700 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu CC: From: "Sam Matheson" Subject: RE: RE: Copyrights, tshirts Message-Id: <020802214.45160@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:32:42 -0700 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >--- Original Message --- >From: Daniel Marks >To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu >Date: 8/2/02 4:11:56 AM > > >> >> Therefore, using a Jandek image on a T-shirt that >> isn't approved by the >> copyright holder is a violation of law, and the >> person producing them is >> subject to criminal and civil penalties. Of course, >> Smith (or his counsel) >> would have to bring suit, and given his reclusive >> nature that seems >> improbable, but those who are responsible for the >> shirts should realize what >> they COULD get into. > >i think, however, that this rates on the criminal >offence scale right up there with making a CD-R of a >cd you own for a friend It wouldn't rise to that level - which is the type of piracy the RIAA dolts claim to be most worried about to justify their desired cash grabs. I mean, with the shirt, you'd be creating a new work in a new medium based on an item that in and of itself was not created as a stand-alone work for possible commercial use (as opposed to bootlegging unreleased versions of songs) that dosen't compete with any product the Corwood crew makes. Sure, there is a copyright violation, but how far it'd get in court, or indeed to what degree a "fair use" defence could be mounted - T-shirt as journalistic comment on the Jandek enigma, anyone? - is anyone's guess. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31222 invoked by uid 1029); 3 Aug 2002 02:27:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 30699 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2002 02:12:05 -0000 Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (207.217.120.84) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Aug 2002 02:12:05 -0000 Received: from dialup-209.246.67.55.dial1.newyork1.level3.net ([209.246.67.55]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17aoOX-000428-00 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 19:11:54 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: danielrios@earthlink.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:14:09 -0400 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: daniel rios Subject: Put My Jandek Dream On This Planet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Sorry so late, it's been a terribly long week. This is my Jandek dream from March 9, 2002, straight from my dreambook Dream about jandek. So Jandek is a poet in book form. Thick little books with covers like his albums. My sisters were fascinated when reading him. So someho I get embroiled in this concert where he's supposed to play. It's out where there are not that many roads but tons of grass yet not many trees, but a hill somewhat in this persons backyard. Think landscapes in Gregory Crewdson's Hover series. So he gives the concert and just before, he hands me this sheet of paper with what looks like a setlist, but there'sa title and numbers after each title. I try to recopy it for him forsetlist purposes when I realize it's actually something else. Somehow I find a best of cover, or I think it was a cover for a book of poetry. Selected Poems. That wouldcorrespond with the "setlist." So I took that and the setlist. Oh, the spine was at the top. I think Jandek was wearing a leather jacket with arms outstretched. So I take the three sheets to the photocopier. We're still outside. I remember a structure in the distance and all, but the photocopier was definitely on the grass. Only reason I am photocopying is that I want a record of him having been there. Plus I cannot write. I keep stumbling over the words and numbers, constantly crossing ou things. Maybe a problem with both language and coordination? So there's also this subplot involving these two women. One of which I know. But the one who sis supposedly more evil, black fur coat and all, opens a hatch in the back of Jandek's car. I stash a copy of the documents in this oven-like stainless steel holding table, also on the grass. So in the hatch out comes a tiger, or a lion. Okay, she was wearing a tiger striped fur coat. So I was thinking that it was good it wasn't a tiger. So, no tiger. But she coddles it, and its stretched out to her and jumps (friendly) out to her. Somehow I knew that things between them, in the distant future, will get better. So then I see saucer shaped lights flying above in the sky, tons of them, but then I also see strings attached, and run to the other side of the vined wall where the woman and tiger were, and there is Jandek, playing with strings and spinning plates to create this amazing light show of tons of UFO's. You can see every one coming out of their bases, if at least for the sheer beauty of it. I run to get my camera thinking it would look amazing at 28mm lanscape in BW. I think, as I'm running back that I can easily burn a roll on this. I can't find the roll of film on my desk (it's in my pocket) and then I can't find my camera. And I wake up. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 1780 invoked by uid 1029); 3 Aug 2002 22:17:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 31450 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2002 20:41:09 -0000 Received: from f93.pav1.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.31.93) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 3 Aug 2002 20:41:09 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 13:40:42 -0700 Received: from 213.105.181.240 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 20:40:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.181.240] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: t-shirts & wine Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 20:40:41 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2002 20:40:42.0190 (UTC) FILETIME=[08CBBEE0:01C23B2E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >I mailed Corwood a letter requesting permission to print shirts two >weeks >ago today. Still no reply. Ah, well..... Possibilities: 1) He's on his summer holidays! 2) He's still trying to decide - he probably wouldn't mind in theory, but might be worried about his face doing the rounds, despite the unlikeliness of anyone he knows seeing it. If this is the case, and he doesn't object to covers that don't feature him being used, how can he explain this in the classic Corwood idiom? He can't use the first person or refer to the cover guy as Jandek. Speaking of which, try comparing that wine club photo with the lost Cause sleeve... hope no-one's gonna e-mail him though. Incidentally, the line "My rapture's painted on the floor" from "First You Think Your Fortune's Lovely" always struck me as the description of a wine-related mishap (being the beverage most frequently referred to in his oeuvre... can't think of another besides "love tea"). _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16805 invoked by uid 1029); 4 Aug 2002 07:02:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 9800 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2002 03:05:13 -0000 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.98) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Aug 2002 03:05:13 -0000 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id l.d3.f88a010 (16781) for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:04:45 -0400 (EDT) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:04:44 EDT Subject: Copyright issue: honestly, people... To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Do you think Corwood got permission to put House of the Rising Sun on Blue Corpse? Did they get mad about the mp3s of said album, and many others? I have a feeling that Sterling would just find it amusing, if he cared at all. Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4528 invoked by uid 1029); 4 Aug 2002 15:57:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 4440 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2002 15:55:28 -0000 Received: from web14804.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.224.220) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Aug 2002 15:55:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20020804155528.57213.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.160.125] by web14804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 08:55:28 PDT Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:55:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Copyrights, tshirts To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <12c.155f5fa8.2a7d709e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk > > I don't read SPIN, so I didn't know he advertised. > Still, for myself, I > prefer just the picture. If everybody else who > wants shirts wants the > "Jandek on Corwood" slogan, then we'll go with it, > but then it goes from art > to being advertising, which wasn't really my > intention. > > Amy i don't read spin either, i heard about it here. and even jandek doesn't Just give the picture. he also gives album titles and song names, even track times. he's set the precedent for what we can and can't say. besides, the text would be on the back, and wouldn't interfere with the picture. just like the albums. D.M. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5028 invoked by uid 1029); 4 Aug 2002 15:58:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 4995 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2002 15:58:10 -0000 Received: from web14809.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.224.230) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Aug 2002 15:58:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20020804155809.68228.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.160.125] by web14809.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 08:58:09 PDT Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:58:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: t-shirts & wine To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk okay people: the wine club dude is NOT our sterling!!!! he looks as much like him as a hippo! c'mon! just wanted to claer that, D.M. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 13413 invoked by uid 1029); 4 Aug 2002 20:27:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 13051 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2002 20:18:34 -0000 Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Aug 2002 20:18:34 -0000 Received: from pool0292.cvx6-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.178.159.37] helo=o9p9q1) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17bRpd-0001gl-00 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 13:18:29 -0700 From: "gregg luvoxx" To: "Jandek" Subject: Jandek in Hollywood Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 13:16:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I finally found the Jandek section at Amoeba Records in Hollywood. It's in the 'Experimental' section, about 15 CDs, multiples of Worthless Recluse (which I picked up) and RFTH, plus a bunch of other of the reissues all for $6-$9. Popping Interstellar Discussion into the car CD player and cruising down Vine, it struck me what the electric Jandek reminds me of - American Indian pow-wow music. Oh what I'd give to hear Janky do, let's say, 'Running Bear' or the Tiger Lily song from Peter Pan. What about Sterling Smith AS Peter Pan!? Or maybe Sandy Duncan as Jandek. I don't know. GL p.s. put me down for a t-shirt http://home.earthlink.net/~murderedman Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23289 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 02:28:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 14413 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2002 20:51:18 -0000 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (64.12.136.8) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Aug 2002 20:51:18 -0000 Received: from Summersteps@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id l.9b.2b7a8e2c (4012) for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 16:50:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Summersteps@aol.com Message-ID: <9b.2b7a8e2c.2a7eedac@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 16:50:52 EDT Subject: the mysterious person in summersteps corwood photos To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9b.2b7a8e2c.2a7eedac_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10516 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_9b.2b7a8e2c.2a7eedac_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Eric of Summersteps here. Sorry for any confusion about the corwood photos. Somehow (I really don't know how), a picture of our resident psych-enthusiast Psychatrone Rhonedakk got mixed in with the Corwood Photos. It's now been removed. Sorry for the mixup. Thanks, Eric http://www.geocities.com/summersteps/corwoodphotosnine.html look at the picture of the guy (girl?) on this page. These are some of the photos that corwood gave to summersteps. Who the hell is that freak? is that the real jandek? perhaps John, or Eddie? or maybe it's a woman, Nancy perahps? aw, screw it, it's probobly just some bum at the graveyard. You are a bum when you wear that hat, D.M. --part1_9b.2b7a8e2c.2a7eedac_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit        Hi,
         Eric of Summersteps here.  Sorry for any confusion about the corwood photos.  Somehow (I really don't know how), a picture of our resident psych-enthusiast Psychatrone Rhonedakk got mixed in with the Corwood Photos.  It's now been removed.  Sorry for the mixup. 

                                                                            Thanks,
                                                                             Eric
                                                                              

http://www.geocities.com/summersteps/corwoodphotosnine.html

look at the picture of the guy (girl?) on this page.
These are some of the photos that corwood gave to
summersteps. Who the hell is that freak? is that the
real jandek? perhaps John, or Eddie?  or maybe it's a
woman, Nancy perahps? aw, screw it, it's probobly just
some bum at the graveyard.

You are a bum when you wear that hat,

D.M.

--part1_9b.2b7a8e2c.2a7eedac_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23681 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 02:29:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 20281 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 00:44:20 -0000 Received: from clueponbook.nasc.inter.net (HELO app6.nasc.inter.net) (203.176.60.253) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 00:44:20 -0000 Received: from ip6-126.eyrkonaeac02.dialup.ca.telus.com ([209.29.91.126]) by app6.nasc.inter.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17bVyK-0003Vx-00 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:43:44 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:44:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Copyrights, tshirts From: "Sam M." To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20020804155528.57213.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I like the idea of having a bit of text on the back of the shirt...to provide minimal context to the photo, and also mimic the design of the standard Jandek LP. I hardly see this as "advertising"; it'd be all a bit too obscure in reference and low-key in execution to qualify methinks (I mean, it's not like anyone's proposing putting "The Living End" cover on a shirt with a big "JANDEK!" logo on the front...although that would almost be worthwile given it's high ranking in the Irony Sweepstakes... on 8/4/02 11:55 AM, Daniel Marks at alfredggnome@yahoo.com wrote: > >> >> I don't read SPIN, so I didn't know he advertised. >> Still, for myself, I >> prefer just the picture. If everybody else who >> wants shirts wants the >> "Jandek on Corwood" slogan, then we'll go with it, >> but then it goes from art >> to being advertising, which wasn't really my >> intention. >> >> Amy > > i don't read spin either, i heard about it here. and > even jandek doesn't Just give the picture. he also > gives album titles and song names, even track times. > he's set the precedent for what we can and can't say. > besides, the text would be on the back, and wouldn't > interfere with the picture. just like the albums. > > D.M. > Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 23874 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 02:29:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 13051 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2002 20:18:34 -0000 Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 4 Aug 2002 20:18:34 -0000 Received: from pool0292.cvx6-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.178.159.37] helo=o9p9q1) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17bRpd-0001gl-00 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 13:18:29 -0700 From: "gregg luvoxx" To: "Jandek" Subject: Jandek in Hollywood Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 13:16:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I finally found the Jandek section at Amoeba Records in Hollywood. It's in the 'Experimental' section, about 15 CDs, multiples of Worthless Recluse (which I picked up) and RFTH, plus a bunch of other of the reissues all for $6-$9. Popping Interstellar Discussion into the car CD player and cruising down Vine, it struck me what the electric Jandek reminds me of - American Indian pow-wow music. Oh what I'd give to hear Janky do, let's say, 'Running Bear' or the Tiger Lily song from Peter Pan. What about Sterling Smith AS Peter Pan!? Or maybe Sandy Duncan as Jandek. I don't know. GL p.s. put me down for a t-shirt http://home.earthlink.net/~murderedman Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24205 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 14:16:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 24119 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 14:15:30 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 14:15:30 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([216.33.241.106] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:15:31 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:15:31 -0700 Received: from 66.65.0.124 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Aug 2002 14:15:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [66.65.0.124] From: "Brian Madonick" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Shirt Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:15:30 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 14:15:31.0148 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E5E18C0:01C23C8A] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Please add me for one shirt! Brian M. Madonick Brian_Madonick@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25242 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 14:35:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 25174 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 14:34:22 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 14:34:22 -0000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:34:22 -0500 Received: from Masseymail@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id l.103.195f4ea8 (4238) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:34:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Masseymail@aol.com Message-ID: <103.195f4ea8.2a7fe6dc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:34:04 EDT Subject: shirts To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_103.195f4ea8.2a7fe6dc_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10516 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 14:34:22.0984 (UTC) FILETIME=[30FE9080:01C23C8D] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_103.195f4ea8.2a7fe6dc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry if i've missed the convo about this, haven't had time to catch up with posts, but: i think it'd be funny if the shirts said "have you seen me?" --part1_103.195f4ea8.2a7fe6dc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry if i've missed the convo about this, haven't had time to catch up with posts, but:

i think it'd be funny if the shirts said "have you seen me?"
--part1_103.195f4ea8.2a7fe6dc_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30624 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 16:37:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 28492 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 15:44:51 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 15:44:51 -0000 Received: from liberty.francomm.com ([208.9.129.10] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:44:51 -0500 Received: from francomm.com ([208.12.108.86]) by liberty.francomm.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g75GjQfM006579 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:45:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3D4E9D26.F4816168@francomm.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:43:34 -0400 From: nevermor@francomm.com Organization: Windless Air Music X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: jandek = beck? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 15:44:51.0437 (UTC) FILETIME=[095949D0:01C23C97] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Has anyone seen the fellow on ebay selling Blue Corpse? He says that Jandek inspired Beck. Is that true? I'm not a fan of Beck anyway, so I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe it's not..... Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31350 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 16:44:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 31303 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 16:43:41 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 16:43:41 -0000 Received: from barrington.services.brown.edu ([128.148.19.62]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:43:42 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.brown.edu ([128.148.19.202]) by barrington.services.brown.edu (NAVGW 2.5.2.9) with SMTP id M2002080512434012075 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:43:40 -0400 X-Priority: Sensitivity: Company-Confidential From: To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: jandek = beck? Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:43:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 16:43:42.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[41C2B060:01C23C9F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Beck may have cited Jandek in an interview or two to up his quickly-waning hipness factor, but I don't see any direct influence. When I try to think of younger artists who have surfaced in the last decade or so who owe a debt to jandek, I immediately think of Smog and Will Oldham. Does that seem off-base? What are other examples? And as for wine club Sterling, I stand by my theory that Sterling Smith is a family name and that the two are likely somehow related. Eli > > From: nevermor@francomm.com > Date: 2002/08/05 Mon AM 11:43:34 EDT > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > Subject: jandek = beck? > > Has anyone seen the fellow on ebay selling Blue Corpse? > He says that Jandek inspired Beck. Is that true? I'm not a fan of Beck > anyway, so I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe it's not..... > Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 905 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 17:14:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 696 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 17:09:23 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 17:09:23 -0000 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:09:23 -0500 Received: from Oogsab@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id l.fb.2a41b28e (1320) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:09:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Oogsab@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:09:20 EDT Subject: Re: jandek = beck? To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_fb.2a41b28e.2a800b40_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 17:09:23.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[D89CD300:01C23CA2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_fb.2a41b28e.2a800b40_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the Jandek influence shows up a wee-bit on some of Beck's older, acoustic stuff... when he signed his major-label deal, he included a clause allowing him to release records on other (independent) labels as well, hence the Stereopathic Soulmanure and One Foot In The Grave recordings (the OFITG album probably showing the closest thing to a Jandek influence)... tenuous, but if he says it's there, I would assume that it is... and I can't see how name-dropping Jandek would bring up the hipness factor on anybody... even those that search around for his records every time Cobain or Beck or someone of that nature mentions Jandek probably never find anything, and those that might most likely don't like what they hear (otherwise his sales would have spiked a couple of times already, which doesn't seem to be the case)... --part1_fb.2a41b28e.2a800b40_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the Jandek influence shows up a wee-bit on some of Beck's older, acoustic stuff... when he signed his major-label deal, he included a clause allowing him to release records on other (independent) labels as well, hence the Stereopathic Soulmanure and One Foot In The Grave recordings (the OFITG album probably showing the closest thing to a Jandek influence)... tenuous, but if he says it's there, I would assume that it is... and I can't see how name-dropping Jandek would bring up the hipness factor on anybody... even those that search around for his records every time Cobain or Beck or someone of that nature mentions Jandek probably never find anything, and those that might most likely don't like what they hear (otherwise his sales would have spiked a couple of times already, which doesn't seem to be the case)... --part1_fb.2a41b28e.2a800b40_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 2149 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 17:31:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 2120 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 17:31:27 -0000 Received: from web12008.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.172.216) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 17:31:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20020805173126.93730.qmail@web12008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.54.36.240] by web12008.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:31:26 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:31:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Cooley Subject: Re: jandek = beck? To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I like Beck. One song from his old "Western Harvest" EP called "Lampshade" is pretty Jandekian. I would say if he's emulated Jandek in any way, it's lyrically. --- Oogsab@aol.com wrote: > the Jandek influence shows up a wee-bit on some of > Beck's older, acoustic > stuff... when he signed his major-label deal, he > included a clause allowing > him to release records on other (independent) labels > as well, hence the > Stereopathic Soulmanure and One Foot In The Grave > recordings (the OFITG album > probably showing the closest thing to a Jandek > influence)... tenuous, but if > he says it's there, I would assume that it is... and > I can't see how > name-dropping Jandek would bring up the hipness > factor on anybody... even > those that search around for his records every time > Cobain or Beck or someone > of that nature mentions Jandek probably never find > anything, and those that > might most likely don't like what they hear > (otherwise his sales would have > spiked a couple of times already, which doesn't seem > to be the case)... > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 2760 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 17:36:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 2605 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 17:33:57 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 17:33:57 -0000 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.8]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:33:58 -0500 Received: from Oogsab@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id l.7a.2ae558b4 (1320) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:33:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Oogsab@aol.com Message-ID: <7a.2ae558b4.2a8010fa@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:33:46 EDT Subject: Re: jandek = beck? To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7a.2ae558b4.2a8010fa_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 17:33:58.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[4776F050:01C23CA6] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_7a.2ae558b4.2a8010fa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lyrically, and in the way that he likes to moan/drawl-on a bit sometimes... --part1_7a.2ae558b4.2a8010fa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lyrically, and in the way that he likes to moan/drawl-on a bit sometimes...
--part1_7a.2ae558b4.2a8010fa_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 4140 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 18:01:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 3284 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 17:38:22 -0000 Received: from clueponbook.nasc.inter.net (HELO app4.nasc.inter.net) (203.176.60.253) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 17:38:22 -0000 Received: from ip3-150.vancbccqac02.dialup.ca.telus.com ([209.121.26.150] helo=istar.ca) by app4.nasc.inter.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17blnn-0002kK-00 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Mon, 05 Aug 2002 13:37:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3D4EB69F.6050308@istar.ca> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:32:15 -0700 From: judith beeman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: shirts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >i think it'd be funny if the shirts said "have you seen me?" That's a good one. Another could be in the style of those classic "nobody knows I'm gay" tshirts: "nobody knows I'm Jandek" [An actual contender?] A major reason why I'm printing up these "I'm with Jandek" shirts is because I'm also going to do a run of "nobody knows I'm a teenager" tshirts (and *no* I don't get any discount on doin' two runs at one time). Hee-hee...that one should drive the youngsters crazy. I will be talking to the printer this week and will quote an exact price on the Jandek shirt I'll be having made for the group. Pretty sure it'll be a ten spot for shirt/airmail delivery. regards, Judith Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7146 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 18:57:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 6184 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 18:39:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 18:39:10 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.52] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:39:10 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:39:10 -0700 Received: from 213.105.181.240 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Aug 2002 18:39:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.181.240] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Janbeck Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 18:39:10 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 18:39:10.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[635EDD60:01C23CAF] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I think I mentioned this before but there was a review of a Beck gig in Mojo recently in which he played new songs called "Lost Cause" and "Sleepless Nights" (sic). Coincidence? The "White Box Requiem" cover has always reminded me of Beck, as does "Long Long" from "I Woke Up". _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14126 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 20:47:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 11988 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 19:58:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 19:58:29 -0000 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.105]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:58:29 -0500 Received: from AKelly1971@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id l.21.21f42b37 (4312) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:58:24 -0400 (EDT) From: AKelly1971@aol.com Message-ID: <21.21f42b37.2a8032e0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:58:24 EDT Subject: Received Permission from Corwood Today! To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 19:58:29.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[77C889D0:01C23CBA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Hey Everybody, Today I received a small package from Corwood with a copy of the Six and Six CD and a handwritten letter granting me permission to reproduce the cover photo for a small edition of t-shirts. So far, eleven people have expressed interest in a shirt from me, but Judith Beeman is also planning to make a shirt, and I don't want to step on anybody's toes. So if you're interested in a gray or black shirt with the Six and Six cover on the front and "JANDEK ON CORWOOD" on the back, please e-mail me again to confirm before I order the shirts. Other exciting news: In the same letter, Corwood also granted me permission to make a music video or short film using Jandek's released recordings. I'll keep you informed as plans take shape. ~~Amy Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14258 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 20:47:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 13018 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 20:20:10 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 20:20:10 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([209.185.241.104] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:20:10 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:20:10 -0700 Received: from 12.110.192.128 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Aug 2002 20:20:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.110.192.128] From: "dave m." To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: jandek /oldham? Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 16:20:09 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 20:20:10.0189 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F4ACFD0:01C23CBD] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk about the only connection i see is the jandekian album cover of oldham's 'Days in the Wake'. for another jandekish cover/package, check out the Miighty Flashlight album. jandekly, -d >From: >To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu >Subject: Re: jandek = beck? >Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:43:41 -0400 > >Beck may have cited Jandek in an interview or two to up his quickly-waning >hipness factor, but I don't see any direct influence. When I try to think >of younger artists who have surfaced in the last decade or so who owe a >debt to jandek, I immediately think of Smog and Will Oldham. Does that >seem off-base? What are other examples? > >And as for wine club Sterling, I stand by my theory that Sterling Smith is >a family name and that the two are likely somehow related. > >Eli > > > > > From: nevermor@francomm.com > > Date: 2002/08/05 Mon AM 11:43:34 EDT > > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > > Subject: jandek = beck? > > > > Has anyone seen the fellow on ebay selling Blue Corpse? > > He says that Jandek inspired Beck. Is that true? I'm not a fan of Beck > > anyway, so I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe it's not..... > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14350 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 20:47:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 13701 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 20:42:20 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 20:42:20 -0000 Received: from web14804.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.220]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:42:19 -0500 Message-ID: <20020805204219.46362.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.162.174] by web14804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Aug 2002 13:42:19 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:42:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: shirts To: jandek In-Reply-To: <3D4EB69F.6050308@istar.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 20:42:19.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[97EAA580:01C23CC0] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk naw, i don't like the I'm With Jandek Idea.... but then i guess i just won't buy that shirt. I'm waiting for the Six and Six shirt. Point Judith, c'mon! D.M. > > A major reason why I'm printing up these "I'm with > Jandek" shirts is > because I'm also going to do a run of "nobody knows > I'm a teenager" > tshirts (and *no* I don't get any discount on doin' > two runs at one > time). Hee-hee...that one should drive the > youngsters crazy. > > I will be talking to the printer this week and will > quote an exact price > on the Jandek shirt I'll be having made for the > group. Pretty sure it'll > be a ten spot for shirt/airmail delivery. > > regards, Judith > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15465 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 20:56:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 15415 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 20:55:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 20:55:17 -0000 Received: from barrington.services.brown.edu ([128.148.19.62]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:55:17 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.brown.edu ([128.148.19.202]) by barrington.services.brown.edu (NAVGW 2.5.2.9) with SMTP id M2002080516551627971 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2002 16:55:16 -0400 X-Priority: Sensitivity: Company-Confidential From: To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Re: jandek /oldham? Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:55:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 20:55:17.0476 (UTC) FILETIME=[67554A40:01C23CC2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I think the entire "Arise Therefore" album is obviously hugely Jandek-like. The subject matter, the lyrical approach, the vocal style, the tone, the style of strumming...it's all straight out of early Jandek. > > From: "dave m." > Date: 2002/08/05 Mon PM 04:20:09 EDT > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > Subject: Re: jandek /oldham? > > > about the only connection i see is the jandekian album cover of oldham's > 'Days in the Wake'. for another jandekish cover/package, check out the > Miighty Flashlight album. > > jandekly, > -d > > > >From: > >To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > >Subject: Re: jandek = beck? > >Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:43:41 -0400 > > > >Beck may have cited Jandek in an interview or two to up his quickly-waning > >hipness factor, but I don't see any direct influence. When I try to think > >of younger artists who have surfaced in the last decade or so who owe a > >debt to jandek, I immediately think of Smog and Will Oldham. Does that > >seem off-base? What are other examples? > > > >And as for wine club Sterling, I stand by my theory that Sterling Smith is > >a family name and that the two are likely somehow related. > > > >Eli > > > > > > > > From: nevermor@francomm.com > > > Date: 2002/08/05 Mon AM 11:43:34 EDT > > > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > > > Subject: jandek = beck? > > > > > > Has anyone seen the fellow on ebay selling Blue Corpse? > > > He says that Jandek inspired Beck. Is that true? I'm not a fan of Beck > > > anyway, so I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe it's not..... > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15780 invoked by uid 1029); 5 Aug 2002 20:58:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 15265 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 20:51:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 20:51:12 -0000 Received: from mail.rpi.edu ([128.113.22.40]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:51:12 -0500 Received: from rpi.edu (adam-s-27.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.33.120]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g75KpBtW162266 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:51:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3D4EE4F6.6010805@rpi.edu> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 16:49:58 -0400 From: jason steven murphy Organization: iEAR presents! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Received Permission from Corwood Today! References: <21.21f42b37.2a8032e0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.3 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 20:51:12.0617 (UTC) FILETIME=[D562C590:01C23CC1] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Please let us now how this all works out, as I am a video artist and would LOVE to give some visuals to Jandek songs (perhaps I should send my own letter to him for written permission)... >Other exciting news: In the same letter, Corwood also granted me permission >to make a music video or short film using Jandek's released recordings. I'll >keep you informed as plans take shape. > -- jason steven murphy production and publicity manager iEAR studios and iEAR presents! rensselaer polytechnic institute 107 west hall - arts department 110 8th street, troy, ny 12180 518.276.4829 (office phone) 518.276.3067 (fax) http://www.arts.rpi.edu/events Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26759 invoked by uid 1029); 6 Aug 2002 02:00:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 26162 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2002 01:36:27 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 01:36:27 -0000 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.100]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:36:27 -0500 Received: from GJCLIMER@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id l.12e.156b94fd (4539) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:36:24 -0400 (EDT) From: GJCLIMER@aol.com Message-ID: <12e.156b94fd.2a808218@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:36:24 EDT Subject: shirt To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 39 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2002 01:36:27.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[AED50DC0:01C23CE9] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk im all for the shirts with the picture on front and the album playlist on back! and i would love to own one myself! sign me up Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31691 invoked by uid 1029); 6 Aug 2002 04:41:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 28404 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2002 02:48:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 02:48:45 -0000 Received: from berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu ([141.211.2.162]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:48:45 -0500 Received: from millipede.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (millipede.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.204]) by berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id WAA14944 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 22:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sdthorn@localhost) by millipede.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.9.1a/5.1-client) with ESMTP id WAA10263 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 22:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 22:48:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott D Thorn X-X-Sender: sdthorn@millipede.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: shirt In-Reply-To: <12e.156b94fd.2a808218@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2002 02:48:45.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8611400:01C23CF3] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I could be up for a shirt so put me down. Maybe "FOLLOW YOUR FOOTSTEPS" on a milk carton. S On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 GJCLIMER@aol.com wrote: > im all for the shirts with the picture on front and the album playlist on > back! and i would love to own one myself! sign me up > Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 18863 invoked by uid 1029); 6 Aug 2002 14:08:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 18809 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2002 14:07:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 14:07:29 -0000 Received: from web14804.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.220]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:07:27 -0500 Message-ID: <20020806140723.10040.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.154.197.219] by web14804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 07:07:23 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 07:07:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: Received Permission from Corwood Today! To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <21.21f42b37.2a8032e0@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2002 14:07:27.0843 (UTC) FILETIME=[98B55B30:01C23D52] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk that's awesome! a music video! i'm thinking of all sorts of things.... if only i had an infinite budget and the latest cameras and image editing software... amy, put me down for a grey "jandek on corwood six and six" t-shirt. by the way, have you or anyone else here listened to the album? what's it like? i understand it's pretty much the same thing as RFTH but more listless. i just hope i don't lose my shirt, D.M. --- AKelly1971@aol.com wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > Today I received a small package from Corwood with a > copy of the Six and Six > CD and a handwritten letter granting me permission > to reproduce the cover > photo for a small edition of t-shirts. > > So far, eleven people have expressed interest in a > shirt from me, but Judith > Beeman is also planning to make a shirt, and I don't > want to step on > anybody's toes. So if you're interested in a gray > or black shirt with the > Six and Six cover on the front and "JANDEK ON > CORWOOD" on the back, please > e-mail me again to confirm before I order the > shirts. > > Other exciting news: In the same letter, Corwood > also granted me permission > to make a music video or short film using Jandek's > released recordings. I'll > keep you informed as plans take shape. > > ~~Amy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 11175 invoked by uid 1029); 9 Aug 2002 16:41:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 10934 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2002 16:39:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 16:39:44 -0000 Received: from web14801.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.217]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:34:00 -0500 Message-ID: <20020809163354.12956.qmail@web14801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.162.48] by web14801.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 09:33:54 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:33:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: unprofessionalism To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2002 16:34:00.0588 (UTC) FILETIME=[90D504C0:01C23FC2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk heh heh, i found a funny thing on the Album New Town... on track five, listen closely. he starts to play the same string over and over, and you can hear him rustling through his papers, trying to find the lyrics to the song he's wants to play next. a stick would do the trick! D.M. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 20106 invoked by uid 1029); 9 Aug 2002 20:22:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 20005 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2002 20:19:50 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 20:19:50 -0000 Received: from web10805.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.130.247]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:12:55 -0500 Message-ID: <20020809201255.94161.qmail@web10805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.14.237.2] by web10805.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 13:12:55 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:12:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Danen Subject: Re: Copyright issue: honestly, people... To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2002 20:12:55.0942 (UTC) FILETIME=[261CFA60:01C23FE1] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --- NCR13@aol.com wrote: > Do you think Corwood got permission to put House of > the Rising Sun on Blue > Corpse? Okay so I've been out of town for two weeks and am now catching up, and maybe somebody's pointed this out, but...you do know that there IS no copyright for House of the Rising Sun? It's a folk song well over a hundred years old, with copies arising as early as the Carter Family stuff. The famous Animals version was inspired by Bob Dylan's version, which gets the gender right (it's a prostitute singing, and is identified as such). So Jandek owed no money on it from the get go. or I may get to a message in a minute that says this, anyway. oh well, Danen > Did they get mad about the mp3s of said album, and > many others? > > I have a feeling that Sterling would just find it > amusing, if he cared at all. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 9121 invoked by uid 1029); 11 Aug 2002 04:40:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7133 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2002 03:19:35 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 11 Aug 2002 03:19:35 -0000 Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.120]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 10 Aug 2002 22:15:34 -0500 Received: from dialup-63.210.218.139.dial1.newyork1.level3.net ([63.210.218.139]) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17djCN-0002oz-00 for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:15:23 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: danielrios@earthlink.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020809201255.94161.qmail@web10805.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020809201255.94161.qmail@web10805.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:18:27 -0400 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: daniel rios Subject: eat some potato/ shades are falling Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2002 03:16:41.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[8381DE50:01C240E5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk forced exposure lists blue corpse available on cd. Anyone gotten it? Is it deliciously re-mastered? *daniel Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31476 invoked by uid 1029); 11 Aug 2002 14:16:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 25326 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2002 09:55:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 11 Aug 2002 09:55:38 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.19.210] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 11 Aug 2002 04:47:35 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 02:47:34 -0700 Received: from 4.60.185.106 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 09:47:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.106] From: "Paul Frederick" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: eat some potato/ shades are falling Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 04:47:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2002 09:47:34.0789 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E96E350:01C2411C] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk
>forced exposure lists blue corpse available on cd. Anyone gotten it?
>Is it deliciously re-mastered?

I have it...

No signs of (significant) remastering...

On the latest Corwood Discography 0754 "You Walk Alone" is annotated...  ">few weeks" ..

(I'm not sure if that means it will be released "greater than a few weeks" from now... or whether the "greater than" sign is simply a pointing device)

Paul


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Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14047 invoked by uid 1029); 12 Aug 2002 13:41:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13733 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 13:30:20 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 13:30:20 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.23.15] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:30:20 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:30:20 -0700 Received: from 130.232.144.221 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:30:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [130.232.144.221] From: "m k" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: unidentified project Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:30:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2002 13:30:20.0162 (UTC) FILETIME=[6762B620:01C24204] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk hello jandek people, I am compiling material for installation I am planning to do in the future. Send me rawmaterial: tapes / videos / photos. It can be anything. You talking, found material, conversations, some recordings from the childhood, field recordings, writings, photos from your house, tape you found from the street, anything... It's an experiment, it's a research, it deals with distances / communication / language / reality / dreams / 'everyday life' / memories... There isn't a complete picture in my head of what this will become. I know there will be a long video piece, with found and received video footage / sounds and text. I will heavily manipulate received material, cut it, use it in videos, put it in gallery, maybe release out it on a record... If i use your material you will be credited of course and i will send some sort of documentation of the work when it's finished. also I am looking for a native english speaker person to read my text on minidisc and send it to me. I will use the speech on a video piece. Contact me privately and i'll give more info: cheapimiation@hotmail.com Mikko from Finland _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16188 invoked by uid 1029); 12 Aug 2002 14:42:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 15150 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 14:03:57 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 14:03:57 -0000 Received: from mail02.ljextra.com ([208.3.165.71] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:57:36 -0500 Received: by ALM-MAIL-1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:57:35 -0400 Message-ID: <988631CF8A1FD511B5B40008C7F36CCD026D9C04@ALM-MAIL-1> From: Tim Kelly To: 'm k' , jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: RE: unidentified project Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:57:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C24208.35D1D1F0" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2002 13:57:36.0187 (UTC) FILETIME=[368850B0:01C24208] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24208.35D1D1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Good morning, I am creating a documentary on the world's perfect beverage, Surge. Please send me videotaped recordings of you and your loved ones enjoying this fully loaded citrus soda. If you have any rare Surge merchandise, please show that in your footage as well. Photographs are also welcomed. Please send all materials to: Tim Kelly 105 Madison Ave 6th Floor New York, NY 10016 Thank you. > -----Original Message----- > From: m k [mailto:cheapimitation@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:30 AM > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > Subject: unidentified project > > > > > hello jandek people, > > I am compiling material for installation I am planning to do in the > future. Send me rawmaterial: tapes / videos / photos. It can be > anything. You talking, found material, conversations, some > recordings from > the childhood, field recordings, writings, photos from your > house, tape you > found from the street, anything... It's an experiment, it's a > research, it > deals with distances / communication / language / reality / dreams / > 'everyday life' / memories... There isn't a complete picture > in my head of > what this will become. I know there will be a long video > piece, with found > and received video footage / sounds and text. > > I will heavily manipulate received material, cut it, use it > in videos, put > it in gallery, maybe release out it on a record... If i use > your material > you will be credited of course and i will send some sort of > documentation of > the work when it's finished. > > also I am looking for a native english speaker person to read my text > on minidisc and send it to me. I will use the speech on a video piece. > > Contact me privately and i'll give more info: > cheapimiation@hotmail.com > > Mikko from Finland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24208.35D1D1F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: unidentified project

Good morning,
I am creating a documentary on the world's perfect = beverage, Surge. Please send me videotaped recordings of you and your = loved ones enjoying this fully loaded citrus soda. If you have any rare = Surge merchandise, please show that in your footage as well. = Photographs are also welcomed. Please send all materials to:

Tim Kelly
105 Madison Ave 6th Floor
New York, NY 10016
Thank you.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: m k [mailto:cheapimitation@hotmail= .com]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:30 AM
> To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
> Subject: unidentified project
>
>
>
>
> hello jandek people,
>
> I am compiling material for installation I am = planning to do in the
> future. Send me rawmaterial: tapes / videos / = photos. It can be
> anything. You talking, found material, = conversations, some
> recordings from
> the childhood, field recordings, writings, = photos from your
> house, tape you
> found from the street, anything... It's an = experiment, it's a
> research, it
> deals with distances / communication / language = / reality / dreams /
> 'everyday life' / memories... There isn't a = complete picture
> in my head of
> what this will become. I know there will be a = long video
> piece, with found
> and received video footage / sounds and = text.
>
> I will heavily manipulate received material, = cut it, use it
> in videos, put
> it in gallery, maybe release out it on a = record... If i use
> your material
> you will be credited of course and i will send = some sort of
> documentation of
> the work when it's finished.
>
> also I am looking for a native english speaker = person to read my text
> on minidisc and send it to me. I will use the = speech on a video piece.
>
> Contact me privately and i'll give more = info:
> cheapimiation@hotmail.com
>
> Mikko from Finland
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> = _________________________________________________________________=
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C24208.35D1D1F0-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 20061 invoked by uid 1029); 12 Aug 2002 15:58:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 19950 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 15:57:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 15:57:02 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.17.180] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:51:29 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:51:29 -0700 Received: from 142.161.20.133 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:51:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [142.161.20.133] From: "Michael Dumontier" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: unidentified project/sounds of children Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:51:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2002 15:51:29.0013 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F36D250:01C24218] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk

Hello, I hope this is OK. I'm also soliciting material for a personal project.

For some time I have been interested in cassette home recordings made by children for themselves. I am also interested in recordings made by adults with children – especially songs made by/with children. If you have any such recordings, I would love to hear them and include them on a compilation CD-R. Participants would get a copy of the finished CD-R. If you want to send something, please contact me for my mailing address at: takemywill@hotmail.com

(please send copies, not originals, as I will not be returning material.)



>From: "m k"
>To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
>Subject: unidentified project
>Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:30:19 +0000
>
>
>
>hello jandek people,
>
>I am compiling material for installation I am planning to do in the
>future. Send me rawmaterial: tapes / videos / photos. It can be
>anything. You talking, found material, conversations, some
>recordings from the childhood, field recordings, writings, photos
>from your house, tape you found from the street, anything... It's an
>experiment, it's a research, it deals with distances / communication
>/ language / reality / dreams / 'everyday life' / memories... There
>isn't a complete picture in my head of what this will become. I know
>there will be a long video piece, with found and received video
>footage / sounds and text.
>
>I will heavily manipulate received material, cut it, use it in
>videos, put it in gallery, maybe release out it on a record... If i
>use your material you will be credited of course and i will send
>some sort of documentation of the work when it's finished.
>
>also I am looking for a native english speaker person to read my
>text
>on minidisc and send it to me. I will use the speech on a video
>piece.
>
>Contact me privately and i'll give more info:
>cheapimiation@hotmail.com
>
>Mikko from Finland
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:
>http://messenger.msn.com


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Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 29607 invoked by uid 1029); 12 Aug 2002 19:51:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 28519 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 19:18:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 19:18:11 -0000 Received: from web14805.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.221]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:13:16 -0500 Message-ID: <20020812191312.35004.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.164.251] by web14805.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:13:12 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:13:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: RE: unidentified project To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <988631CF8A1FD511B5B40008C7F36CCD026D9C04@ALM-MAIL-1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2002 19:13:16.0842 (UTC) FILETIME=[500AE8A0:01C24234] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk ahahaha lol lol. very funny retort to a really wierd idea. indeed, making a documentary on anything as insubstantive as soda would still be more interesting than an "installation." bottom line: just because jandek screws with music or pollack screws with painting, it doesn't mean every twirp with a brain cell can just go out and make their own "art." it seems the lower the bar gets for what is and isn't artisitic, the more people we get thinking they're aritsts. now some of them are artists, our finnish friend may be one of them, but in my opinion, most of them aren't. there's my shpiel. agree, or not? before you get all angry with me, i'm just trying to say that art is something that stimulates some part of us. if it doesn't stimulate, it doesn't.... well wait maybe i was wrong.... D.M. --- Tim Kelly wrote: > Good morning, > I am creating a documentary on the world's perfect > beverage, Surge. Please > send me videotaped recordings of you and your loved > ones enjoying this fully > loaded citrus soda. If you have any rare Surge > merchandise, please show that > in your footage as well. Photographs are also > welcomed. Please send all > materials to: > Tim Kelly > 105 Madison Ave 6th Floor > New York, NY 10016 > Thank you. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: m k [mailto:cheapimitation@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:30 AM > > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > > Subject: unidentified project > > > > > > > > > > hello jandek people, > > > > I am compiling material for installation I am > planning to do in the > > future. Send me rawmaterial: tapes / videos / > photos. It can be > > anything. You talking, found material, > conversations, some > > recordings from > > the childhood, field recordings, writings, photos > from your > > house, tape you > > found from the street, anything... It's an > experiment, it's a > > research, it > > deals with distances / communication / language / > reality / dreams / > > 'everyday life' / memories... There isn't a > complete picture > > in my head of > > what this will become. I know there will be a long > video > > piece, with found > > and received video footage / sounds and text. > > > > I will heavily manipulate received material, cut > it, use it > > in videos, put > > it in gallery, maybe release out it on a record... > If i use > > your material > > you will be credited of course and i will send > some sort of > > documentation of > > the work when it's finished. > > > > also I am looking for a native english speaker > person to read my text > > on minidisc and send it to me. I will use the > speech on a video piece. > > > > Contact me privately and i'll give more info: > > cheapimiation@hotmail.com > > > > Mikko from Finland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.msn.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 29759 invoked by uid 1029); 12 Aug 2002 19:51:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 28612 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 19:19:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 19:19:12 -0000 Received: from web14808.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.224]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:18:26 -0500 Message-ID: <20020812191825.9180.qmail@web14808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.164.251] by web14808.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:18:25 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:18:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: unidentified project/sounds of children To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2002 19:18:26.0813 (UTC) FILETIME=[08CCBAD0:01C24235] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk tsk tsk, another one. it sounds good, but who would be interested in these recordings other than the people who made them? I know i wouldn't. it would be like watching home movies, what a bore. it sounds like something on NPR to me. not that i'm against NPR, it's where i first heard about the J man. ah, well. D.M. --- Michael Dumontier wrote:

Hello, I hope this is OK. I'm also soliciting material for a personal project.

For some time I have been interested in cassette home recordings made by children for themselves. I am also interested in recordings made by adults with children – especially songs made by/with children. If you have any such recordings, I would love to hear them and include them on a compilation CD-R. Participants would get a copy of the finished CD-R. If you want to send something, please contact me for my mailing address at: takemywill@hotmail.com

(please send copies, not originals, as I will not be returning material.)



>From: "m k"
>To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu
>Subject: unidentified project
>Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:30:19 +0000
>
>
>
>hello jandek people,
>
>I am compiling material for installation I am planning to do in the
>future. Send me rawmaterial: tapes / videos / photos. It can be
>anything. You talking, found material, conversations, some
>recordings from the childhood, field recordings, writings, photos
>from your house, tape you found from the street, anything... It's an
>experiment, it's a research, it deals with distances / communication
>/ language / reality / dreams / 'everyday life' / memories... There
>isn't a complete picture in my head of what this will become. I know
>there will be a long video piece, with found and received video
>footage / sounds and text.
>
>I will heavily manipulate received material, cut it, use it in
>videos, put it in gallery, maybe release out it on a record... If i
>use your material you will be credited of course and i will send
>some sort of documentation of the work when it's finished.
>
>also I am looking for a native english speaker person to read my
>text
>on minidisc and send it to me. I will use the speech on a video
>piece.
>
>Contact me privately and i'll give more info:
>cheapimiation@hotmail.com
>
>Mikko from Finland
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:
>http://messenger.msn.com


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HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31880 invoked by uid 1029); 12 Aug 2002 20:21:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 31571 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 20:14:16 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 20:14:16 -0000 Received: from gatekeeper2.nytimes.com ([199.181.175.211]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:10:04 -0500 Received: from mailhub3.nytimes.com (mailhub3.nytimes.com [170.149.204.45]) by gatekeeper2.nytimes.com (Switch-2.2.3/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id g7CK9qg26841 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 16:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from notesgate3.nytimes.com (notesgate3.nytimes.com [170.149.204.43]) by mailhub3.nytimes.com (Switch-2.2.2/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id g7CK8rs24297 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 16:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from corp-mail-03.ssc.nytimes.com ([206.113.41.244]) by notesgate3.nytimes.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 2002081216112351:2949341 ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 16:11:23 -0400 Subject: RE: unidentified project To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Chris.Grier@heraldtribune.com Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 16:04:30 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CORP-MAIL-03/CORPHQ/NYTIMES(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/12/2002 04:04:32 PM, Itemize by SMTP Server on NOTESGATE3/NYT/NYTIMES(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/12/2002 04:11:23 PM, Serialize by Router on NOTESGATE3/NYT/NYTIMES(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/12/2002 04:11:25 PM, Serialize complete at 08/12/2002 04:11:25 PM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2002 20:10:04.0145 (UTC) FILETIME=[3EF41610:01C2423C] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk what's wrong with anyone who wants to saying they're an artist? nothing, as far as i can tell. dig it or not, that's up to you. Daniel Marks @cs.northwestern.edu on 08/12/2002 03:13:12 PM Sent by: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu cc: Subject: RE: unidentified project ahahaha lol lol. very funny retort to a really wierd idea. indeed, making a documentary on anything as insubstantive as soda would still be more interesting than an "installation." bottom line: just because jandek screws with music or pollack screws with painting, it doesn't mean every twirp with a brain cell can just go out and make their own "art." it seems the lower the bar gets for what is and isn't artisitic, the more people we get thinking they're aritsts. now some of them are artists, our finnish friend may be one of them, but in my opinion, most of them aren't. there's my shpiel. agree, or not? before you get all angry with me, i'm just trying to say that art is something that stimulates some part of us. if it doesn't stimulate, it doesn't.... well wait maybe i was wrong.... D.M. --- Tim Kelly wrote: > Good morning, > I am creating a documentary on the world's perfect > beverage, Surge. Please > send me videotaped recordings of you and your loved > ones enjoying this fully > loaded citrus soda. If you have any rare Surge > merchandise, please show that > in your footage as well. Photographs are also > welcomed. Please send all > materials to: > Tim Kelly > 105 Madison Ave 6th Floor > New York, NY 10016 > Thank you. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: m k [mailto:cheapimitation@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:30 AM > > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > > Subject: unidentified project > > > > > > > > > > hello jandek people, > > > > I am compiling material for installation I am > planning to do in the > > future. Send me rawmaterial: tapes / videos / > photos. It can be > > anything. You talking, found material, > conversations, some > > recordings from > > the childhood, field recordings, writings, photos > from your > > house, tape you > > found from the street, anything... It's an > experiment, it's a > > research, it > > deals with distances / communication / language / > reality / dreams / > > 'everyday life' / memories... There isn't a > complete picture > > in my head of > > what this will become. I know there will be a long > video > > piece, with found > > and received video footage / sounds and text. > > > > I will heavily manipulate received material, cut > it, use it > > in videos, put > > it in gallery, maybe release out it on a record... > If i use > > your material > > you will be credited of course and i will send > some sort of > > documentation of > > the work when it's finished. > > > > also I am looking for a native english speaker > person to read my text > > on minidisc and send it to me. I will use the > speech on a video piece. > > > > Contact me privately and i'll give more info: > > cheapimiation@hotmail.com > > > > Mikko from Finland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.msn.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 13187 invoked by uid 1029); 13 Aug 2002 02:07:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 13018 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 02:05:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 02:05:21 -0000 Received: from mta1-3.us4.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.44]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 21:00:02 -0500 Received: from mta1-5.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-64.outblaze.com [205.158.62.64]) by mta1-3.us4.outblaze.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/us4-srs) with SMTP id g7D2013G008198 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 02:00:01 GMT Received: (qmail 21206 invoked by uid 0); 13 Aug 2002 01:01:57 -0000 MBOX-Line: From owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Mon Aug 12 19:52:10 2002 Received: (qmail 11358 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 19:51:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO spf12.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.36) by 205-158-62-64.outblaze.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 19:51:27 -0000 Received: from spf2.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-24.outblaze.com [205.158.62.24]) by spf12.us4.outblaze.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/us4-yg) with ESMTP id g7CJpQ9f004841 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:51:26 GMT Received: from cs.northwestern.edu (godzilla.cs.nwu.edu [129.105.99.240]) by spf2.us4.outblaze.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/us4-yg) with SMTP id g7CJpQC15119 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:51:26 GMT Received: (qmail 29616 invoked by uid 1032); 12 Aug 2002 19:51:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 29607 invoked by uid 1029); 12 Aug 2002 19:51:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 28519 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 19:18:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 19:18:11 -0000 Received: from web14805.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.221]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:13:16 -0500 Message-ID: <20020812191312.35004.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.164.251] by web14805.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:13:12 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:13:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: RE: unidentified project To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: <988631CF8A1FD511B5B40008C7F36CCD026D9C04@ALM-MAIL-1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2002 19:13:16.0842 (UTC) FILETIME=[500AE8A0:01C24234] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk ahahaha lol lol. very funny retort to a really wierd idea. indeed, making a documentary on anything as insubstantive as soda would still be more interesting than an "installation." bottom line: just because jandek screws with music or pollack screws with painting, it doesn't mean every twirp with a brain cell can just go out and make their own "art." it seems the lower the bar gets for what is and isn't artisitic, the more people we get thinking they're aritsts. now some of them are artists, our finnish friend may be one of them, but in my opinion, most of them aren't. there's my shpiel. agree, or not? before you get all angry with me, i'm just trying to say that art is something that stimulates some part of us. if it doesn't stimulate, it doesn't.... well wait maybe i was wrong.... D.M. --- Tim Kelly wrote: > Good morning, > I am creating a documentary on the world's perfect > beverage, Surge. Please > send me videotaped recordings of you and your loved > ones enjoying this fully > loaded citrus soda. If you have any rare Surge > merchandise, please show that > in your footage as well. Photographs are also > welcomed. Please send all > materials to: > Tim Kelly > 105 Madison Ave 6th Floor > New York, NY 10016 > Thank you. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: m k [mailto:cheapimitation@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:30 AM > > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > > Subject: unidentified project > > > > > > > > > > hello jandek people, > > > > I am compiling material for installation I am > planning to do in the > > future. Send me rawmaterial: tapes / videos / > photos. It can be > > anything. You talking, found material, > conversations, some > > recordings from > > the childhood, field recordings, writings, photos > from your > > house, tape you > > found from the street, anything... It's an > experiment, it's a > > research, it > > deals with distances / communication / language / > reality / dreams / > > 'everyday life' / memories... There isn't a > complete picture > > in my head of > > what this will become. I know there will be a long > video > > piece, with found > > and received video footage / sounds and text. > > > > I will heavily manipulate received material, cut > it, use it > > in videos, put > > it in gallery, maybe release out it on a record... > If i use > > your material > > you will be credited of course and i will send > some sort of > > documentation of > > the work when it's finished. > > > > also I am looking for a native english speaker > person to read my text > > on minidisc and send it to me. I will use the > speech on a video piece. > > > > Contact me privately and i'll give more info: > > cheapimiation@hotmail.com > > > > Mikko from Finland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.msn.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 19632 invoked by uid 1029); 13 Aug 2002 05:00:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18577 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 04:23:28 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 04:23:28 -0000 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.8]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 23:13:57 -0500 Received: from NCR13@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id l.a3.2cc8425f (4418) for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 00:13:53 -0400 (EDT) From: NCR13@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 00:13:53 EDT Subject: Re: unidentified project To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 04:13:57.0442 (UTC) FILETIME=[D825A220:01C2427F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk To quote Marge Simpson: "It's true...but you shouldn't say it!" In a message dated 8/12/02 10:08:01 PM, alfredggnome@yahoo.com writes: << ahahaha lol lol. very funny retort to a really wierd idea. indeed, making a documentary on anything as insubstantive as soda would still be more interesting than an "installation." bottom line: just because jandek screws with music or pollack screws with painting, it doesn't mean every twirp with a brain cell can just go out and make their own "art." it seems the lower the bar gets for what is and isn't artisitic, the more people we get thinking they're aritsts. now some of them are artists, our finnish friend may be one of them, but in my opinion, most of them aren't. there's my shpiel. agree, or not? before you get all angry with me, i'm just trying to say that art is something that stimulates some part of us. if it doesn't stimulate, it doesn't.... well wait maybe i was wrong.... D.M. >> Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 6142 invoked by uid 1029); 13 Aug 2002 14:32:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3399 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 12:59:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 12:59:44 -0000 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:59:04 -0500 Received: from waste.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g7DCx0JC029453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:59:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (crash@localhost) by waste.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g7DCwxIu029449; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:59:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:58:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Madson To: Tim Kelly cc: "'m k'" , Subject: RE: unidentified project In-Reply-To: <988631CF8A1FD511B5B40008C7F36CCD026D9C04@ALM-MAIL-1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 12:59:05.0237 (UTC) FILETIME=[34419C50:01C242C9] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Hey Tim.... Just to let you know - I recently visited "Everything Coca Cola" in Atlanta. They basically have a tour that, at its conclusion a room with lots of free soda - every type of Coca Cola product. Surge is one of the freebies. It tastes just like I remember it. They also have a second room with the products they make for export and some of those products are VERY unusual. Jandek tie in: Weird thought: Jandek endorsing surge ala a Britney Spears Pepsi endorsement. Would that be weird or what? -t On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Tim Kelly wrote: > Good morning, > I am creating a documentary on the world's perfect beverage, Surge. Please > send me videotaped recordings of you and your loved ones enjoying this fully > loaded citrus soda. If you have any rare Surge merchandise, please show that > in your footage as well. Photographs are also welcomed. Please send all > materials to: > Tim Kelly > 105 Madison Ave 6th Floor > New York, NY 10016 > Thank you. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: m k [mailto:cheapimitation@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:30 AM > > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > > Subject: unidentified project > > > > > > > > > > hello jandek people, > > > > I am compiling material for installation I am planning to do in the > > future. Send me rawmaterial: tapes / videos / photos. It can be > > anything. You talking, found material, conversations, some > > recordings from > > the childhood, field recordings, writings, photos from your > > house, tape you > > found from the street, anything... It's an experiment, it's a > > research, it > > deals with distances / communication / language / reality / dreams / > > 'everyday life' / memories... There isn't a complete picture > > in my head of > > what this will become. I know there will be a long video > > piece, with found > > and received video footage / sounds and text. > > > > I will heavily manipulate received material, cut it, use it > > in videos, put > > it in gallery, maybe release out it on a record... If i use > > your material > > you will be credited of course and i will send some sort of > > documentation of > > the work when it's finished. > > > > also I am looking for a native english speaker person to read my text > > on minidisc and send it to me. I will use the speech on a video piece. > > > > Contact me privately and i'll give more info: > > cheapimiation@hotmail.com > > > > Mikko from Finland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > -- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 6594 invoked by uid 1029); 13 Aug 2002 14:33:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 4205 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 13:24:57 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 13:24:57 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([209.185.241.144] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:24:29 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:24:29 -0700 Received: from 12.110.192.128 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:24:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.110.192.128] From: "dave m." To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: unidentified project/sounds of children Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:24:28 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 13:24:29.0014 (UTC) FILETIME=[C07F8760:01C242CC] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk in that same vein, who would be interested in your opinions other than you? i know i'm not. if this guy has an idea, let him run with it. sheesh... -d >From: Daniel Marks >To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu >Subject: Re: unidentified project/sounds of children >Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:18:25 -0700 (PDT) > >tsk tsk, another one. it sounds good, but who would be >interested in these recordings other than the people >who made them? I know i wouldn't. it would be like >watching home movies, what a bore. it sounds like >something on NPR to me. not that i'm against NPR, it's >where i first heard about the J man. ah, well. > >D.M. > > > > > > > >--- Michael Dumontier wrote: > >
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Hello, I hope this is OK. I'm also soliciting >material for a personal project.

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For some time I have been interested in cassette >home recordings made by children for themselves. I am >also interested in recordings made by adults with >children – especially songs made by/with children. If >you have any such recordings, I would love to hear >them and include them on a compilation CD-R. >Participants would get a copy of the finished CD-R. If >you want to send something, please contact me for my >mailing address at: href="mailto:takemywill@hotmail.com">takemywill@hotmail.comsize=2>

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(please send copies, not originals, as I will not >be returning material.)

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>From: "m k" > >
>To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu >
>Subject: unidentified project >
>Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:30:19 +0000 >
> >
> >
> >
>hello jandek people, >
> >
>I am compiling material for >installation I am planning to do in the >
>future. Send me rawmaterial: tapes / >videos / photos. It can be >
>anything. You talking, found material, >conversations, some >
>recordings from the childhood, field >recordings, writings, photos >
>from your house, tape you found from >the street, anything... It's an >
>experiment, it's a research, it deals >with distances / communication >
>/ language / reality / dreams / >'everyday life' / memories... There >
>isn't a complete picture in my head of >what this will become. I know >
>there will be a long video piece, with >found and received video >
>footage / sounds and text. >
> >
>I will heavily manipulate received >material, cut it, use it in >
>videos, put it in gallery, maybe >release out it on a record... If i >
>use your material you will be credited >of course and i will send >
>some sort of documentation of the work >when it's finished. >
> >
>also I am looking for a native english >speaker person to read my >
>text >
>on minidisc and send it to me. I will >use the speech on a video >
>piece. >
> >
>Contact me privately and i'll give more >info: >
>cheapimiation@hotmail.com >
> >
>Mikko from Finland >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>_________________________________________________________________ > >
>Chat with friends online, try MSN >Messenger: >
>http://messenger.msn.com >


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invoked by uid 1029); 13 Aug 2002 16:26:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 12537 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 16:22:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 16:22:19 -0000 Received: from htcexch11286.htc.edu ([204.1.10.50] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:17:16 -0500 Received: by htcexch11286.htc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:22:00 -0500 Message-ID: <45BB3D25CA31FC4F9FE376F6E0EAD34E93D8B7@htcexch11286.htc.edu> From: "Ronsen, Josh P." To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: RE: unidentified project Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:21:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C242E5.8CF89300" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 16:17:16.0786 (UTC) FILETIME=[E42BFD20:01C242E4] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C242E5.8CF89300 Content-Type: text/plain OK: my project: I am collecting Pierre Boulez records for destruction. See http://home.flash.net/~jronsen/boulez.html for more info and a funny picture. I think the project of children's music will be wonderful! I have a friend who works at an alternative private school, and I have heard some of the recordings he has made of his young (8 year olds?) students making music: very strange stuff. During play time he handed out percussion and "little" instruments and had them go at it with no instruction from him. The tape I heard was amazing: very strange. I will see if he will send in a recording the next time I see him. -Josh Ronsen PO Box 7896 Austin TX 78713 USA ------_=_NextPart_001_01C242E5.8CF89300 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: unidentified project

OK: my project: I am collecting Pierre Boulez records = for destruction. See http://home.flash.net/~jronsen/boulez.html for = more info and a funny picture.

I think the project of children's music will be = wonderful! I have a friend who works at an alternative private school, = and I have heard some of the recordings he has made of his young (8 = year olds?) students making music: very strange stuff. During play time = he handed out percussion and "little" instruments and had = them go at it with no instruction from him. The tape I heard was = amazing: very strange. I will see if he will send in a recording the = next time I see him.

-Josh Ronsen
PO Box 7896
Austin TX 78713
USA



------_=_NextPart_001_01C242E5.8CF89300-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 12929 invoked by uid 1029); 13 Aug 2002 16:26:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 12543 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 16:22:20 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 16:22:20 -0000 Received: from web14810.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.231]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:14:25 -0500 Message-ID: <20020813161424.7119.qmail@web14810.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.154.197.49] by web14810.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:14:24 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:14:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: .... To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 16:14:25.0865 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E4B8390:01C242E4] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk okay, forget what i said about art. anyone who was insulted by my last remarks, forget about them. they were made in a bitter mood. what i was trying to say, in my signature awkward, inarticulate way, was that we all love our own work, beacuse we did it. we can always show it to others, but sometimes only we can "get" it. however, the ensuing arguement would be fruitless for me to pursue on this list. after all, we're jandek fans, jandek being famous for making art that only he gets. so once again, forget i said those things. I take them back. I'll remember not to share my opinions on this list from now on, unless of course they have to do with jandek. as for the PRI guy, thanks for pointing out jandek to studio 360. i listen on WGBH in massachusetts. it's true, after listening to subsequent episodes of that program, i still find that the one with teller and jandek and the quilts was one of the best. took a walk outside, in the snow and ice.... D.M. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 20538 invoked by uid 1029); 13 Aug 2002 19:19:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 16337 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 17:26:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 17:26:21 -0000 Received: from mail.mailstart.com ([207.231.76.102] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:21:19 -0500 Received: from muave [207.231.76.117] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A00E27E100B6; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:21:18 -0700 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu CC: From: "Sam Matheson" Subject: RE: RE: unidentified project Message-Id: <130802225.37278@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:21:19 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 17:21:19.0702 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6BA6F60:01C242ED] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >They also have a second room with the products they make for export >and some of those products are VERY unusual. Such as...? >Jandek tie in: >Weird thought: Jandek endorsing surge ala a Britney Spears Pepsi >endorsement I got a vision A tasty soft-drink We're drinking Surge in the afternoon Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 22144 invoked by uid 1029); 13 Aug 2002 19:51:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 21696 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 19:38:27 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 19:38:27 -0000 Received: from berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu ([141.211.2.162]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:37:48 -0500 Received: from zektor.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (zektor.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.203]) by berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id PAA18841 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sdthorn@localhost) by zektor.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.9.1a/5.1-client) with ESMTP id PAA09471 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:37:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott D Thorn X-X-Sender: sdthorn@zektor.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: corwood catalog In-Reply-To: <130802225.37278@webbox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 19:37:48.0056 (UTC) FILETIME=[E75E1980:01C24300] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk hey all just got my box o'20 today, found out that now 24 titles are on cd, 0739-0754 and 0762-0769, so everything up to blue corpse and from glad to get away on. wish i would've put in $16 more. scott Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25529 invoked by uid 1029); 13 Aug 2002 20:59:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 25277 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 20:53:37 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 20:53:37 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.59] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:50:35 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:50:35 -0700 Received: from 213.190.147.241 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:50:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.190.147.241] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: crazy fools Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:50:35 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 20:50:35.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[128B8570:01C2430B] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Right, tempers are fraying, everyone's a little on edge... I propose a little light relief from seriousness and purism... Try out the filter below on the Jandek site (particularly the lyrics page) for some unlikely Mr.T covers. Might not be to everyone's taste but it made me laugh. http://firefly.sparse.org/~mrt/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30976 invoked by uid 1029); 13 Aug 2002 23:18:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 30539 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 23:06:53 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 23:06:53 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([209.185.241.5] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:06:06 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:06:06 -0700 Received: from 24.199.91.42 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 23:06:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.199.91.42] From: "dave m." To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: crazy fools Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:06:06 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 23:06:06.0268 (UTC) FILETIME=[00E1E7C0:01C2431E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk or for those with more, um, 'risque' tastes, try the pornolizer @ http://www.pornolize.com -d >From: "Paul Condon" >To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu >Subject: crazy fools >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:50:35 +0000 > >Right, tempers are fraying, everyone's a little on edge... I propose a >little light relief from seriousness and purism... Try out the filter below >on the Jandek site (particularly the lyrics page) for some unlikely Mr.T >covers. Might not be to everyone's taste but it made me laugh. > >http://firefly.sparse.org/~mrt/ > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 32610 invoked by uid 1029); 13 Aug 2002 23:51:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 32471 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 23:49:53 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 23:49:53 -0000 Received: from smtp.comcast.net ([24.153.64.2]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:47:39 -0500 Received: from [68.62.7.17] (pcp01171481pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net [68.62.7.17]) by mtaout03.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 13 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0T009KZ3FE8H@mtaout03.icomcast.net> for jandek@cs.northwestern.edu; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:47:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:48:47 -0400 From: James Mason Subject: Boxes of 20 In-reply-to: To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 23:47:39.0194 (UTC) FILETIME=[CEC839A0:01C24323] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Is it possible to order a box of 20 with 20 different titles for the discount price? James ----- Charlie Rose: The film [The English Patient] is interesting in that it's not the book. David Foster Wallace: That is difficult to argue with. > From: Scott D Thorn > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:37:47 -0400 (EDT) > To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu > Subject: corwood catalog > > hey all > > just got my box o'20 today, found out that now 24 titles are on cd, > 0739-0754 and 0762-0769, so everything up to blue corpse and from glad to > get away on. wish i would've put in $16 more. > > scott > Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5330 invoked by uid 1029); 14 Aug 2002 02:25:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 1375 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2002 00:16:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 00:16:56 -0000 Received: from berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu ([141.211.2.162]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:08:49 -0500 Received: from asteroids.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (asteroids.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.218]) by berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id UAA07603; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sdthorn@localhost) by asteroids.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.9.1a/5.1-client) with ESMTP id UAA21308; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:08:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott D Thorn X-X-Sender: sdthorn@asteroids.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: James Mason cc: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: Boxes of 20 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2002 00:08:49.0264 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3CD8700:01C24326] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I asked for a box of twenty using the catalog page highlighting the 18 titles which said cd by them, then asked him to pick 2 more, preferably of two new reissues. i was sent those 18 different titles plus blue corpse and modern dances. they were sent in a box that had "corwood - 0752 (30)" on the side in sharpie. so yes, 20 different titles for $80. you could get all 24 then for $96. it doesn't say 20 or more for $80 anymore; it says "20 or more for $4 each". On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, James Mason wrote: > Is it possible to order a box of 20 with 20 different titles for the > discount price? > > James Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 5644 invoked by uid 1029); 14 Aug 2002 02:25:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 3126 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2002 01:17:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 01:17:21 -0000 Received: from web14803.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.219]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:17:05 -0500 Message-ID: <20020814011701.69024.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.163.24] by web14803.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:17:01 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:17:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: crazy fools To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2002 01:17:05.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D6EE680:01C24330] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk LOL! that is freakin' hillarious. "Ready for the Darn House" under a reivew on the discog page, Mista T writes "i'm onna fix that sucka!" it remidns me of a similar meta filter featuring zippy the pinhead. now that was funny. anyone else here a fan of zippy? that's gotta be the most jandekian comic strip out there: www.zippythepinhead.com D.M. --- Paul Condon wrote: > Right, tempers are fraying, everyone's a little on > edge... I propose a > little light relief from seriousness and purism... > Try out the filter below > on the Jandek site (particularly the lyrics page) > for some unlikely Mr.T > covers. Might not be to everyone's taste but it made > me laugh. > > http://firefly.sparse.org/~mrt/ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 30110 invoked by uid 1029); 14 Aug 2002 14:12:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 27753 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2002 12:59:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 12:59:19 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([207.68.163.30] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:58:55 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 05:58:51 -0700 Received: from 195.23.220.214 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:58:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.23.220.214] From: =?iso-8859-1?B?am9z6SBNYXJtZWxlaXJh?= To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: request by a portuguese journalist Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:58:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2002 12:58:51.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[56B6C520:01C24392] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Hi! I´m a free-lance journalist who works for a portuguese magazine called NÚMEROMAGAZINE, and would like to know if you could get some records by Jandek so I can write an article on them. I have already interviewed Lee Ranaldo and GYBE and I wrote pieces about Lightning Bolt, Jackie O Motherfucker, Ryhs Chatham, Dianogah and SunnO))). I’m now starting a long article on out-rock that will feature bands like No-Neck Blues Band, Vibracathedral Orchestra, Six Organs Of Admittance, Sightings and Erase Errata. The address for you to send the record is: José Marmeleira Numeromagazine Quinta de São José, nº8 - 4º Frt 2685 Sacavém Portugal Best Regards Please say something _________________________________________________________________ Tenha você também um MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do mundo: http://www.hotmail.com/br Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31122 invoked by uid 1029); 14 Aug 2002 14:29:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 30998 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2002 14:26:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 14:26:45 -0000 Received: from mail.mailstart.com ([207.231.76.102] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:26:00 -0500 Received: from muave [207.231.76.117] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A877BE300DE; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:25:59 -0700 To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu CC: From: "Sam Matheson" Subject: RE: Re: crazy fools Message-Id: <140802226.26759@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:26:00 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2002 14:26:00.0478 (UTC) FILETIME=[8331FBE0:01C2439E] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk >--- Original Message --- >From: Daniel Marks >To: >Date: 8/13/02 12:17:01 PM >anyone else here a >fan of zippy? that's gotta be the most jandekian comic >strip out there: > >www.zippythepinhead.com > I dunno, I think David Lynch's one-panel about the dog who was so angry he couldn't move is more in the ballpark, or even early "Peanuts" strips - "Zippy" is a li'l too gonzo for the Corwood universe as I see it Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 10244 invoked by uid 1029); 14 Aug 2002 19:11:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 3606 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2002 16:22:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 16:22:45 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([209.185.241.64] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:21:48 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:21:44 -0700 Received: from 12.110.192.128 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:21:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.110.192.128] From: "dave m." To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu Subject: Re: request by a portuguese journalist Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:21:43 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2002 16:21:44.0056 (UTC) FILETIME=[ADE3E780:01C243AE] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Hi! I am a free-lance writer working on a story about money. If you could get some of this money and i could write an article about it. I have already used money to buy CDs and beers, porn and subway fare. I am starting to use money to support a heroin habit. The address to send the money is: Dave M. 13 6402nd Avenue NY, NY 10001 >From: josé Marmeleira >To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu >Subject: request by a portuguese journalist >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:58:51 +0000 > > > >Hi! > > >I´m a free-lance journalist who works for a portuguese magazine called >NÚMEROMAGAZINE, and would like to know if you could get some >records by Jandek so I can write an article on them. I have >already interviewed Lee Ranaldo and GYBE and >I >wrote >pieces about Lightning Bolt, Jackie O Motherfucker, Ryhs Chatham, >Dianogah >and SunnO))). I’m now starting a long article on out-rock that will >feature bands like No-Neck Blues Band, Vibracathedral Orchestra, Six >Organs >Of Admittance, Sightings and Erase Errata. > >The address for you to send the record is: >José Marmeleira > >Numeromagazine > Quinta de São José, nº8 - 4º Frt >2685 Sacavém >Portugal > >Best Regards >Please say something > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tenha você também um MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do mundo: >http://www.hotmail.com/br _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 10729 invoked by uid 1029); 14 Aug 2002 19:13:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 9089 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2002 18:50:03 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 18:50:03 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.57] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:47:20 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:30:20 -0700 Received: from 213.105.178.136 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:30:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.178.136] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: mystery jpeg Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:30:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2002 18:30:20.0141 (UTC) FILETIME=[A50909D0:01C243C0] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk OK, I haven't been on the list for the release of a new album, but was that a jpeg of the cover? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 25887 invoked by uid 1029); 15 Aug 2002 01:57:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 22624 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2002 00:08:50 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Aug 2002 00:08:50 -0000 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.89]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:07:56 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-en1 [10.13.10.224]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g7F07tA8014442 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g7F07tVw025201 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.201.14.158] ([205.201.14.158]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H0UZ1600.54S for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:07:54 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: maurice@mail.mac.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:07:48 -0400 To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Re: request by a portuguese journalist Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2002 00:07:56.0292 (UTC) FILETIME=[CEA46440:01C243EF] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Well done, sir, except...that the savekaryn.com and the dontsavekaryn.com people have been blazing this trail of late. In a somewhat related development, a young man of my acquaintance is literally dying of boredom. You can help make what time he has left slightly less unbearable by sending cash, nitrous oxide containers,or pornographic videotapes to him, care of the following address, and forward the request to everyone you know... At 12:21 PM -0400 8/14/02, dave m. wrote: >Hi! >I am a free-lance writer working on a story about money. >If you could get some of this money and i could write an article >about it. I have already used money to buy CDs and beers, porn and >subway fare. I am starting to use money to support a heroin habit. > >The address to send the money is: >Dave M. >13 6402nd Avenue >NY, NY 10001 -- Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 26254 invoked by uid 1029); 15 Aug 2002 01:57:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 22625 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2002 00:08:50 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Aug 2002 00:08:50 -0000 Received: from web14805.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.221]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:03:14 -0500 Message-ID: <20020815000313.13536.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.154.197.170] by web14805.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:03:13 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:03:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: Re: request by a portuguese journalist To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2002 00:03:14.0434 (UTC) FILETIME=[26A44620:01C243EF] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk lol again. there's a good one. like he said, jandek albums are similar to money, nobody would want to part with the ones they have. and considering how few he has made up (300 according to spin), they are real collector's items. short answer for this: BUY YOUR OWN ALBUMS! PO box 15375 houston texas! and then be proud to know you're the only person in all of portugal who has a jandek album. If you are going to be cheap about it, i suggest Ready for the House, Interstellar Discussion, You Walk Alone, Glad to Get Away, and Put My Dream on This Planet, each of those albums being a phase in his development. and here is my portugese translation of naked in the afternoon, courtesy of babelfish: Recebi uma visão filha adolescente quem cresce nu à tarde eu sei um irmão perto de outro quem permanece para fora tarde à noite tempo eu mantenho repetir toma uma surra crescer nus à tarde você estão vaqueiro quando usam essas botas estão vaqueiro quando usam essas botas tempo grande na cidade tempo grande na cidade tempo grande na cidade quando usam essas botas (--- "dave m." wrote: > Hi! > I am a free-lance writer working on a story about > money. > If you could get some of this money and i could > write an article about it. I > have already used money to buy CDs and beers, porn > and subway fare. I am > starting to use money to support a heroin habit. > > The address to send the money is: > Dave M. > 13 6402nd Avenue > NY, NY 10001 > > >From: josé Marmeleira > >To: jandek@cs.nwu.edu > >Subject: request by a portuguese journalist > >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:58:51 +0000 > > > > > > > >Hi! > > > > > >I´m a free-lance journalist who works for a > portuguese magazine called > >NÚMEROMAGAZINE, and would like to know if you could > get some > >records by Jandek so I can write an article on > them. I have > >already interviewed Lee Ranaldo and GYBE and > >I > >wrote > >pieces about Lightning Bolt, Jackie O Motherfucker, > Ryhs Chatham, > >Dianogah > >and SunnO))). I’m now starting a long article on > out-rock that will > >feature bands like No-Neck Blues Band, > Vibracathedral Orchestra, Six > >Organs > >Of Admittance, Sightings and Erase Errata. > > > >The address for you to send the record is: > >José Marmeleira > > > >Numeromagazine > > Quinta de São José, nº8 - 4º Frt > >2685 Sacavém > >Portugal > > > >Best Regards > >Please say something > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Tenha você também um MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail > do mundo: > >http://www.hotmail.com/br > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 1843 invoked by uid 1029); 15 Aug 2002 05:19:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 27765 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2002 02:22:18 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 15 Aug 2002 02:22:18 -0000 Received: from mail.locasite.com.br ([200.230.157.180] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:14:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 28565 invoked by uid 0); 15 Aug 2002 02:08:32 -0000 Received: from guile@bizarremusic.com.br by web with Locasite-Mail-Scanner (Liberado. Processado em 0.45624 segundos); 15 Aug 2002 02:08:32 -0000 Locasite-Mail-Scanner-Mail-From: guile@bizarremusic.com.br via web Locasite-Mail-Scanner-Rcpt-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Locasite-Mail-Scanner: (Email Liberado. Processado em 0.45624 segundos) Received: from dl-nas3-sao-c8b1b3cb.p001.terra.com.br (HELO f7k3y8) (200.177.179.203) by mail.locasite.com.br with SMTP; 15 Aug 2002 02:08:31 -0000 Message-ID: <003701c24401$b3ab4fc0$cbb3b1c8@f7k3y8> From: "Guilherme Barrella" To: References: <20020815000313.13536.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: request by a portuguese journalist Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 23:14:24 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2002 02:14:37.0934 (UTC) FILETIME=[8192E8E0:01C24401] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk and the portuguese people always wondered why we have so many portuguese jokes here in brazil. hehe. funny to read jandek's lyrics in babelfish portuguese. gui ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Marks" > and here is my portugese translation of naked in the > afternoon, courtesy of babelfish: > > Recebi uma visão > filha adolescente > quem cresce nu à tarde > eu sei um irmão perto de outro > quem permanece para > fora tarde à noite > tempo eu mantenho repetir toma uma surra crescer nus à > tarde você > estão vaqueiro quando usam essas botas > estão vaqueiro quando usam essas botas > tempo grande na cidade > tempo grande na cidade > tempo grande na cidade quando usam essas botas Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 8656 invoked by uid 1029); 16 Aug 2002 17:13:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20020816171304.8655.qmail@cs.northwestern.edu> Received: (qmail 8403 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2002 17:07:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO Godzilla.cs.nwu.edu) (tisue@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 17:07:16 -0000 Subject: "You Walk Alone" reissued To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Seth Tisue Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:07:16 -0500 Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk "You Walk Alone" (1988) arrived in the mail from Corwood today... == Seth Tisue - seth@tisue.net - http://tisue.net "I'm not writing a book on the science of irony." - Marcel Duchamp Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3077 invoked by uid 1029); 20 Aug 2002 00:16:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 2326 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2002 23:59:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 19 Aug 2002 23:59:47 -0000 Received: from blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.94] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:58:53 -0500 Received: from pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 00:58:53 +0100 Received: from nyro (unverified [80.195.54.31]) by pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 00:58:53 +0100 Message-ID: <00f901c247dc$5da2c200$1f36c350@nyro> Reply-To: "Jamie Morrison" From: "Jamie Morrison" To: "jandek" Subject: Mp3 Request!! Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 00:58:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Aug 2002 23:58:53.0773 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F574FD0:01C247DC] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Hi all, Ok. I was basically just wondering if anyone here had encoded the song 'Ha Ha' from the CD reissue of 'Interstellar discussion' into mp3 format? And if so, would they pleaaaaaaaaase be willing to send it to my email? It's just, I haven't bought the album yet, but really want to put this song on a mix tape for a friend... and I don't think it'll arrive before I want to give it to her (I live in the UK.) I would be eternally grateful to anyone who'd grant this request!! Thank you, Jamie Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 3324 invoked by uid 1029); 20 Aug 2002 00:16:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 2554 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2002 00:01:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 20 Aug 2002 00:01:15 -0000 Received: from blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.98] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 19:00:40 -0500 Received: from pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 01:00:37 +0100 Received: from nyro (unverified [80.195.54.31]) by pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 01:00:37 +0100 Message-ID: <010401c247dc$9c296150$1f36c350@nyro> Reply-To: "Jamie Morrison" From: "Jamie Morrison" To: "jandek" Subject: P.S. - CD Reissues Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 01:00:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2002 00:00:40.0945 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F387610:01C247DC] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Also, while I'm posting, I don't think anyone here has mentioned the recent updates of the Jandek site, and the CD reissues of what it seems almost everyone assumes to be Jandek's best works - Modern Dances, Blue Corpse and You Walk Alone. Has anyone bought these yet? Reactions? Jamie Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 7666 invoked by uid 1029); 20 Aug 2002 02:18:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 5814 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2002 01:23:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 20 Aug 2002 01:23:33 -0000 Received: from blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.122] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 20:20:01 -0500 Received: from pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 02:20:01 +0100 Received: from nyro (unverified [80.195.54.31]) by pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 02:20:01 +0100 Message-ID: <015701c247e7$b328fae0$1f36c350@nyro> Reply-To: "Jamie Morrison" From: "Jamie Morrison" To: "jandek" Subject: P.P.S. Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 02:19:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2002 01:20:01.0773 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4E529D0:01C247E7] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Ok, I've just figured out that I'm not actually receiving mail from the mailing list anymore, which is why presumably I didn't hear anything about the site updates. So, apologies for most likely sending out old news you've already heard. Jamie (going to resubscribe now) Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14012 invoked by uid 1029); 20 Aug 2002 20:42:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 13088 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2002 20:12:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 20 Aug 2002 20:12:10 -0000 Received: from web14805.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.221]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:07:14 -0500 Message-ID: <20020820200710.17167.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.163.162] by web14805.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:07:10 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:07:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: No Object To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2002 20:07:14.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D39AD00:01C24885] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I am gonna order some more CDS from corwood... I have enough money for 4. I know i want Later On, Blue Corpse, and You Walk Alone... but i'm not sure what the next one should be. I want to get something from his early period, something from before BC. What does everyone suggest? and also, i've continued work on my "Jandek Bio" and i've put a review of RFTH on my website on geocities you've got a lot of fancy instincts, D.M. ps there's a copy of the RFTH LP on ebay.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 29321 invoked by uid 1029); 21 Aug 2002 02:58:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 21925 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2002 23:39:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 20 Aug 2002 23:39:26 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.19.87] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:34:31 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:34:30 -0700 Received: from 4.60.185.106 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:34:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.60.185.106] From: "Paul Frederick" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: "AIH" and "LH" on Jandek's rideout grooves. Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:34:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2002 23:34:30.0589 (UTC) FILETIME=[21A0E6D0:01C248A2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk
Hey all..

Of special interest to Ian Kasley, who originaly posed the question on the mailing list (in January 2001)

We asked the owner of the record/cd plant where jandek presses his albums what the "AIH" and the "LH" meant on the "rideout grooves" of the old vinyl...  Here was his response.

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Paul,
 
Hello, the AIH or LH numbers are simply job reference numbers used by our plant.
AIH (Ardent - Ingram - Houston) or LH (Location - Houston) is the path the job took for mastering - plating - pressing. Location did both mastering & plating.  These alpha-numeric reference numbers appeared on all records that were pressed here.
 
good to hear from you, hope the doc is going well.
 
Sincerely,
S.
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An interesting piece of the puzzle, to be sure.  Of course there will be ma! ny more subjects to ruminate on as we near the completion of the documentary.  I don't mean to "tease" anyone... but there will be some significant additions to the body of Jandek research very soon.

Of course, none of these revelations will be of a personal or biographical nature.  I can honestly say that we know nothing in that area.

Hope you find this interesting... I know I did.

Paul


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Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31114 invoked by uid 1029); 28 Aug 2002 07:40:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 4879 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 17:34:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 17:34:19 -0000 Received: from liberty.francomm.com ([208.9.129.10] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:24:57 -0500 Received: from francomm.com (max96a-208.12.108.14 [208.12.108.14] (may be forged)) by liberty.francomm.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g7RIUxjH012042 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:31:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3D6BB57A.4D857CCF@francomm.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:23:07 -0400 From: nevermor@francomm.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "jandek@cs.northwestern.edu" Subject: Modern Dances Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2002 17:24:58.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[AAAA06E0:01C24DEE] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any thoughts as to what is on the album cover photo? I mean, at the right edge around "Jandek's" abdomen. I have an idea, but am wondering what someone else might think it is Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31702 invoked by uid 1029); 28 Aug 2002 07:41:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 7371 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 18:58:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 18:58:21 -0000 Received: from liberty.francomm.com ([208.9.129.10] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:50:28 -0500 Received: from francomm.com (max48b-208.9.129.143 [208.9.129.143] (may be forged)) by liberty.francomm.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g7RJuJjH018424 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:56:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3D6BC973.4BE14302@francomm.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:48:19 -0400 From: nevermor@francomm.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "jandek@cs.northwestern.edu" Subject: huh? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2002 18:50:28.0210 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C787D20:01C24DFA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk And what is that bleeding through at the beginning of Variant??? I don't remember that on the vinyl! Somethings amiss Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 31818 invoked by uid 1029); 28 Aug 2002 07:41:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 7410 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 18:58:23 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 18:58:23 -0000 Received: from liberty.francomm.com ([208.9.129.10] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:49:19 -0500 Received: from francomm.com (max48b-208.9.129.143 [208.9.129.143] (may be forged)) by liberty.francomm.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g7RJt8jH018312 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:55:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3D6BC92B.C1ADDC48@francomm.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:47:08 -0400 From: nevermor@francomm.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "jandek@cs.northwestern.edu" Subject: remastered Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2002 18:49:19.0429 (UTC) FILETIME=[73795750:01C24DFA] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Anyone else notice how different these recent re-releases sound compared to the original vinyl, or is it just me? Check out Blue Corpse. It doesn't feel as warm or something and "I Know You Well" from Follow Your Footsteps sounds different... Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 14404 invoked by uid 1029); 28 Aug 2002 15:20:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 14274 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2002 15:19:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Aug 2002 15:19:02 -0000 Received: from web12003.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.172.211]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:10:05 -0500 Message-ID: <20020828151005.14609.qmail@web12003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.54.36.146] by web12003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:10:05 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Cooley Subject: Re: Modern Dances To: "jandek@cs.northwestern.edu" In-Reply-To: <3D6BB57A.4D857CCF@francomm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2002 15:10:06.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDDFC960:01C24EA4] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk A miniature golf course? With that white fence there it sort of looks like a park or a playground. Can you imagine a shirtless Jandek peering at your children playing from behind that brick wall? Yikes. --- nevermor@francomm.com wrote: > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what is on the > album cover photo? I > mean, at the right edge around "Jandek's" abdomen. I > have an idea, but > am wondering what someone else might think it is __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 29132 invoked by uid 1029); 28 Aug 2002 22:56:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 18131 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2002 17:09:04 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 28 Aug 2002 17:09:04 -0000 Received: from liberty.francomm.com ([208.9.129.10] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:06:20 -0500 Received: from francomm.com (max96a-208.12.108.34 [208.12.108.34] (may be forged)) by liberty.francomm.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g7SICgjH009213 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:12:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3D6D02A0.9CD524D0@francomm.com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:04:32 -0400 From: nevermor@francomm.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "jandek@cs.northwestern.edu" Subject: Re: Modern Dances References: <20020828151005.14609.qmail@web12003.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2002 17:06:20.0929 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B36CF10:01C24EB5] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I almost thought it looked like a childs drum set and maybe an amp? Jason Cooley wrote: > A miniature golf course? > With that white fence there it sort of looks like a > park or a playground. Can you imagine a shirtless > Jandek peering at your children playing from behind > that brick wall? Yikes. > > > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what is on the > > album cover photo? I > > mean, at the right edge around "Jandek's" abdomen. I > > have an idea, but > > am wondering what someone else might think it is > > __ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24786 invoked by uid 1029); 29 Aug 2002 14:53:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 3401 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 02:54:04 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 02:54:04 -0000 Received: from liberty.francomm.com ([208.9.129.10] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:53:01 -0500 Received: from francomm.com (max48a-208.9.129.89 [208.9.129.89] (may be forged)) by liberty.francomm.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g7T3xSjH014626 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:59:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3D6D8C1B.1E434CFC@francomm.com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:51:07 -0400 From: nevermor@francomm.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "jandek@cs.northwestern.edu" Subject: last reissues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2002 02:53:02.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[30B244F0:01C24F07] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk I'm surprised that no one has noticed or mentioned this, but the last batch of reissues (from Follow Your Footsteps on) have a bar code on the cds. It's official now... Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 24939 invoked by uid 1029); 29 Aug 2002 14:53:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 3802 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 03:07:05 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 03:07:05 -0000 Received: from liberty.francomm.com ([208.9.129.10] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:00:16 -0500 Received: from francomm.com (max48a-208.9.129.89 [208.9.129.89] (may be forged)) by liberty.francomm.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g7T46kjH014982 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 23:06:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3D6D8DD1.F8B2B2C5@francomm.com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:58:25 -0400 From: nevermor@francomm.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "jandek@cs.northwestern.edu" Subject: Blue Corpse reissue Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2002 03:00:16.0140 (UTC) FILETIME=[33747CC0:01C24F08] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk So does anyone here who has the original Blue Corpse on vinyl have it on the reissue CD? Show of hands. Sounds to me like the tapes got baked or something. All kinds of sounds bleeding though and it just is not what it should be... Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15220 invoked by uid 1029); 30 Aug 2002 20:43:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 6689 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2002 16:21:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Aug 2002 16:21:38 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.123] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:11:52 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 09:11:51 -0700 Received: from 213.105.181.240 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:11:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.105.181.240] From: "Paul Condon" To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Subject: The minutae of the Jandek remastering process and other inconsequentials Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:11:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2002 16:11:51.0893 (UTC) FILETIME=[F38B0050:01C2503F] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk When the albums originally came out on vinyl, it's possible that Jandek just presented the pressing plant with reels of tape, or 4-track cassettes or whatever he was using, and they created masters which might no longer exist. I doubt anyone was thinking of future repressings during the 80s. This might be why the reissues sound different - they could be from the original tapes, which might not be in the greatest condition, especially if they were just stored in the house, with the floods and everything. I don't have the rereleases of Blue Corpse or Follow Your Footsteps yet, but have CDR copies of both from the vinyl, and I notice that on a lot of the tracks Jandek is singing very close to the mic which renders the vocals very bass-heavy. I always have to turn down the bass on my stereo after the first few songs sung by 'Eddie' on BC. Maybe new masters were re-EQed to account for things like this, which affected the overall quality of the tracks. It sounds like that stuff was just recorded direct to stereo anyway. It's also possible of course that Jandek is behind it, maybe the cds are closer to the sound he's looking for - then again who knows if he concerns himself with this side of things. I think it was "the First End" that Seth mentions had "Your Condition" running backwards throughout the start - I can't hear that on the CD - maybe something else that was mastered out. That sounds to me like he was using 2 tracks on a 4-track to record the song, then flipping the tape over to record another song on the other 2 tracks, and the channels with the first song weren't completely turned down during mastering. I also noticed that many tracks begin with a really watery effect - it's very obvious on "A Dozen Drops". Anyone got any thoughts on this? Does this appear on the vinyl albums or just CDs? I also read something about different fades etc on some of the vinyl versions - anybody got examples of these? Sorry to get all anal/anorak but I'm curious. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 15604 invoked by uid 1029); 30 Aug 2002 20:44:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 8609 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2002 16:58:39 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Aug 2002 16:58:39 -0000 Received: from web14809.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.230]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:56:29 -0500 Message-ID: <20020830165628.58850.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.162.216] by web14809.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 09:56:28 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 09:56:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Marks Subject: A Very Jandek Christmas and more To: Jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2002 16:56:29.0648 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F9BFD00:01C25046] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Yes that's right people, a Very Jandek Christmas. Why am i bringing this up? Because it's the next filppin' album! It's got a blurry picture of a dirty, half melted snowman with a threadbare scarf on the cover, surrounded by grass in a nameless suburban backyard, and features 12 tracks of jolly old Janky Claus doing your favourite Christmas tunes! First You Think Your Present's Lovely I Passed by the Shopping Mall Sterling Silver Bells Jesus Take My Frankinsense {sic} I Woke Up (on chirstmas morning) Oh Little Town of Houston Sterling the White-haired Loner I'll Have a Blue Corpse Without You Rain in Bethlehem Somebody in the Snow- Xmas version The Fruitcakes Crumble She Fell Down the Chimeny and much much more! order now! available only in boxes of 10,000 while supplies last! but that's not all! in responce to his critics' constant comparisons of jandek to chinese restaurant music, he has teamed up with houston chinese retaurant owner Chan Dek to us "You Wok Alone" a full two hours of chinese Psych-Folk inexplicably squeezed into one CD! Featuring: Put My Egg-roll on this platter Nancitsu Sings So Fly Mao Chair Beside the Kitchen I ain't got no MSG C_F (which actually means Chicken Fuyoga) John Played drums but was then Silenced By the Communist Government First You Think Your Fortune Cookie's Lovely and 35 more out-of-tunes! act now, available only in orders of 45,000. finally, we have a limited time offer from summersteps records' video gaming division, The first NES cartridge in seven years, Kid Icarus and The Indie Invaders! You play as Kid Icarus, little angel dude and indie rocker, as you race across Northeastern PA trying to find the missing peices of the Jandek Tribute, as well as saving cassie rose from the evil clutches of The X-ray technician! (that is, before she gets tired of waiting and saves herself) the kid's weapons are at your diposal! like the rotory dial, the squeeze, and the confetti after the party (which doesn't work against someone who isn't there) but watch that our friend Ickie doesn't get painted by numbers, eat too much or turned into a unidentified flying object, 'cause that's a game over! and a secret password lets you play as Psycatrone Rhondakk! it's a great game! order now! available in large, medium, and La Petit Dada sizes! Rock On, D.M. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16070 invoked by uid 1029); 31 Aug 2002 16:09:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 21198 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2002 23:27:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Aug 2002 23:27:34 -0000 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.6]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:26:57 -0500 Received: from Velvetdoug@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id l.83.1ffa063e (2168) for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:26:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Velvetdoug@aol.com Message-ID: <83.1ffa063e.2aa1593e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:26:54 EDT Subject: minutae of Jandek remastering inconsequentials To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_83.1ffa063e.2aa1593e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows UK sub 10500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2002 23:26:57.0444 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBA9F640:01C2507C] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk --part1_83.1ffa063e.2aa1593e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 30/08/02 21:50:25 GMT Daylight Time, paulgcondon@hotmail.com writes: > I also noticed that > many tracks begin with a really watery effect some software for reducing background hiss can, if used clumsily, produce a gurgling or bubbling sound on intros and outros and other quiet sections. could Jandek be remastering these albums himself? maybe he got a new 'puter with ProTools or Sound Designer or some such. Doug Shearer Mastering Engineer Townhouse Mastering, London p.s. Sterling, if you like i'll do your remasters for ya! ;-) --part1_83.1ffa063e.2aa1593e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 30/08/02 21:50:25 GMT Daylight Time, paulgcondon@hotmail.com writes:


I also noticed that
many tracks begin with a really watery effect



some software for reducing background hiss can, if used clumsily, produce a gurgling or bubbling sound on intros and outros and other quiet sections. could Jandek be remastering these albums himself? maybe he got a new 'puter with ProTools or Sound Designer or some such.

Doug Shearer
Mastering Engineer
Townhouse Mastering, London

p.s. Sterling, if you like i'll do your remasters for ya! ;-)
--part1_83.1ffa063e.2aa1593e_boundary-- Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16488 invoked by uid 1029); 31 Aug 2002 16:10:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 28123 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2002 04:04:35 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 31 Aug 2002 04:04:35 -0000 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.86]) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:55:41 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-en1 [10.13.10.224]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id g7V3tXWI005387 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g7V3tXVw003275 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([141.151.136.238]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H1OW8K00.21Q for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:55:32 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: maurice@mail.mac.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020830165628.58850.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020830165628.58850.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 23:55:29 -0400 To: Jandek@cs.northwestern.edu From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Re: A Very Jandek Christmas and more Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Aug 2002 03:55:41.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[4649F050:01C250A2] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk At 9:56 AM -0700 8/30/02, Daniel Marks wrote: >Yes that's right people, a Very Jandek Christmas. This reminds me of an idea a friend of mine had years ago, a while after I'd gotten into Janky's ouvre (with Blue Corpse and You Walk Alone), and hipped him to it as well. My friend could envision doing an old-style TV Christmas special, with different people "ringing the doorbell" on the set, appearing to "drop by" for a bit of conversation and a few songs. At one such juncture, he envisioned opening the door and saying to his girlfriend, "Look, honey, it's Jandek!" (applause) And then Janky comes in to charm us with a few seasonal tunes. Hey, is it any coincidence that parts of "Harmonica" resemble "Silent Night"? I think not. -- Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ Delivered-To: jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Received: (qmail 16959 invoked by uid 1029); 31 Aug 2002 16:15:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 16729 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2002 21:02:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.cs.nwu.edu (HELO mail1.cs.northwestern.edu) (129.105.100.4) by godzilla.cs.nwu.edu with SMTP; 30 Aug 2002 21:02:34 -0000 Received: from wm3.nyc.untd.com ([64.136.20.100] RDNS failed) by mail1.cs.northwestern.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:02:19 -0500 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"0MqKJx0neCqADHFc6MqNrXrkXzLxi7a3zhAYEmEg7kDwq8LOs0x2Ag=="> Received: (from raldrich2@juno.com) by wm3.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id HBG6LDSU; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:02:08 EDT X-Original-From: "richaldrich" Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:01:58 GMT To: Jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Cc: Subject: jandek and anonymity X-Mailer: Juno Webmail Version 1.0 From: richaldrich Message-Id: <20020830.170208.8833.2632@wm3.nyc.untd.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2002 21:02:19.0647 (UTC) FILETIME=[874B38F0:01C25068] Sender: owner-jandek@cs.northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk hi, does any one have any thoughts on the fact that it is a bit odd that jandek (sterling smith ....) has gone to such lengths to maintain such an anonymity with the public/press/etc. , yet half the album covers are pictures of him at various stages in his life? apologies if this is an already discussed subject, r ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.